…doesn’t mean the Beeb has to agree. This “story” is bogus. President Bush, after all, was not slow to declare a state of emergency along the Gulf Coast. Mayor Nagin’s reaction to this “news” is laughable and hypocritical but the Beeb is happy to serve us New Orleans sludge.
Update: DFH, one of our B-BBC commenterati has two very helpful posts here and here. Auntie can’t get away with what she once did.
sorry my fault, its not Italian made, it’ll be made in Leeds, but the design/ ownership rights are Italian.
I bet the BBC does not run a (D)HYS piece on whether Jowell should resign.
I am married into a traditional Hindu family. They do have an entrepenurial class but believe me where she comes from the Muslims have a proportionaly, far larger one.
To simplify my point, what I am saying is that the Conservative Party can only be as progressive as the people and countries situation demands it to be. Im not sure I am tottaly happy with it either. Thats just how it is. It is also, all we have got.
Common-sense runs through every part of conservative members. Monty Python called it the sensible party for a reason. Socialism is a dogma and all dogma is potentialy dangerous, to free people.
Now Jowell has ditched her liabilities when will Tony follow suit ?
Archduke, be careful when you say ‘the “unionist” bit smacks of Empire’ that you are not starting to fall for ye oldye BBC/leftist value that anything British or Empire is by default “evil, bad and wrong”.
Personally I’d much rather be in union with an empire that values my individual rights, than “united” within a nationalist socialist “utopia” that is hell bent on running my life as it sees fit!
One thing did crop up, the latest PANTHER Armoured vehicle note ITALIAN MADE, to be supplied to the British Army over the Land Rover, has anyone bothered to check what relations this manufacturer have to this whole deal? Might be worth checking out…
Ian Barnes | 05.03.06 – 3:02 pm | #
Go to Euroreferendum.com and ask Dr Richard North this is his area
Archduke
I would prefer that they changed the name compleatly to The Peoples Freedom Party. But then Im mad. The day they start listening to the likes of me hell will be a fridge.
Joe
Some lefty once asked me a question “how would I be feeling if the Americans came into this country and took it over”
I replied I would “kiss their feet.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4772090.stm
What religion is she?
“That was when I had to state my religion – throwing in for good measure that my husband was Iranian.
Instantly the mood changed – they melted into sweetness and light and suddenly the elderly couple were saying: Oh yes, you are the one who tells the truth on air, unlike the others”
Does it begin with M by any chance?
Gary, Im with you on that one… if it ever comes to a choice of invaders I’m all for being invaded by a freedom loving people 🙂
Heads up peeps – the Telegraph ran a story about how the Iranians have led the EU3 and the IAEA up the garden path
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/05/wiran05.xml&sSheet=/portal/2006/03/05/ixportal.html
It seems like it’s quite a big story – not a peep from the beeb though.
I wonder whether they’ll ever get down to mentioning it..
I found out about it from a blog (lgf) – shocker!
“I replied I would kiss their feet”
spot on.
and if they imposed their constitution, rather than the shambles that passes for english “law” at the moment, all the better.
“I would prefer that they changed the name compleatly to The Peoples Freedom Party.”
i’m with you on that one. screw it – i’ll bite my lip and join up. the more of us in there, the better.
i’ll have to keep my republican (as in the American Republic/constitution/blah blah) tendencies to myself though.
“One thing did crop up, the latest PANTHER Armoured vehicle note ITALIAN MADE, to be supplied to the British Army over the Land Rover, has anyone bothered to check what relations this manufacturer have to this whole deal?”
hmmmm… you might be onto something there Ian.
The new Virgin trains are also Italian designed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2218949.stm
where has the country of Isambard Kingdom Brunel, of the Spitfire, of the Harrier Jumpjet, of the James Bond Aston Martin and countless other engineering marvels dissapeared to?
gone in puff of Gordon Brown Beeboid-lovein “prudence” smoke and mirrors?
Archduke, be careful when you say ‘the “unionist” bit smacks of Empire’ that you are not starting to fall for ye oldye BBC/leftist value that anything British or Empire is by default “evil, bad and wrong”
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i’m irish. you might be aware that we had a bit of a run in with the Empire in the 1920s, in order to obtain our freedom.
it wasnt very pleasant.
so , please excuse me for not being exactly too enthusiastic about the “union” or the “empire”.
Back on the topic of BBC bias, I’ve just switched off R4’s Pick of the Week, bored to tears by the predictable Leftist ‘gags’ (as I’m sure he thinks of them) by the presenter, Simon Fanshawe.
Not only is PotW a very good illustration of the profound Left/liberal bias of this station, but Fanshawe’s tiresome nonsense provides the perfect illustration of the typical luvvy favoured by the Corporation.
Remind me again, someone, why we have to pay to be insulted like this?
Archduke, be careful when you say ‘the “unionist” bit smacks of Empire’ that you are not starting to fall for ye oldye BBC/leftist value that anything British or Empire is by default “evil, bad and wrong”
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I wanted to write:
Are there any countries where the people are better off (in a broad, not just financial, sense) now than when they were under British rule? Not in Africa, anyway.
On reflection, I thought of USA, NZ, Australia, Canada and I realised that what I am really saying is that unless you have a (hideously) white government you are in (as well as under) the brown stuff.
But there again Japan, Korea and Singapore seem prosperous and well-governed, as was Hong Kong.
And then I realised that this was all an IQ effect, as promulgated by “The Bell Curve”.
GCooper:
I agree. I switched off when, after the piece about a doctor operating in N Iraq by torchlight, fanshawe said it was just like the NHS in the late eighties.
Did he realise that the Conservatives were in government at that time?
Of course he did – that was his point.
Just got home from a good day out hunting foxes, think I`ll watch that teriffic Joan Baez performance on Sunday AM again online.
This evening I’ll be watching the Academy Awards and making piggy noises at George Clooney and Steven Spielberg.
George C. Looney as they say at Natioal Review Online
Here http://www.nationalreview.com/rice/rice200603030818.asp
Re, The Italian connection. If you really follow the hard money trail, you might find it leads back to the unheralded cause of much evil in the world today…that’s right, male pattern baldness:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4135591.stm
I’m not sure how they fit into the picture, but I think Berlusconi’s hairplugs are going to play a key part as this drama unfolds.
But seriously, Ian, Archduke, if you think there’s a sniff of the Italian connection about those contracts, send an email to a newspaper.
“This evening I’ll be watching the Academy Awards and making piggy noises at George Clooney and Steven Spielberg.”
i thought this was funny – George Clooney and Khaled Meshal of Hamas – separated at birth?
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/george-clooney/for-your-consideration-george-clooney-khaled-meshal-158417.php
(warning : wonkette is supposedly written in a form of “English” that only far-left self-loathing Democrats can understand. but the picture IS funny.)
“But seriously, Ian, Archduke, if you think there’s a sniff of the Italian connection about those contracts, send an email to a newspaper.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/1821860.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3609636.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/1873866.stm
something smells.
Archduke:
Regarding your post on the BBC’s commentary on Mr. Tessa Jowell as seen from Italy, I notice that the pictures of Mills and Berlusconi are amongst the most awful you could find (what’s the deal with the shadow across Berlusconi’s face??). But the picture of Jowell in the sidebar is at worst neutral, and frankly fairly positive. (I think it’s positive; as an American I don’t see that much of her so I don’t know if there are lots of better pictures of her.)
Typical of the BBC even to use head shots of the people involved in a story to further the slant.
I think Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, is at the bottom of it myself. After all according to Lyndon LaRouche, the US moonbat that the Beeb once interviewed straight up as a “political dissident” (and then dropped the interview into the memory hole when it was laughed at in the US), Phillip is the secret ruler of the entire Western world.
Surely he knows all about it.
ted -> it is interesting that the bbc commentary does not mention Berlusconi’s relationship with the Blairs – almost as if its been airbrushed out in a newspeakwise fashion by the Ministry of Truth.
Also, I forgot to add above, Phillip has pattern baldness, just like Berlusconi. Very incriminating.
Actually Susan for a long time I used to think Mandelson used to sleep between Tony and Cherie
Ian Barnes
Hope the Army checked the number of forward and reverse gears those Italian armoured vehicles have before clinching the deal.
Well, one of Darth Vadar’s stormtroopers
has turned up in Tokyo
Note the conspicuous lack of politically correct police enforcing subsection 3 a) and paragraph 5.2.5 of the Offenses against Gay Horses Act.
actually – come to think of it – i dont think he’d last 5 minutes in London, in all seriousness.
He’s not carrying a Pro-Islam sign for starters.
Note the conspicuous lack of politically correct police enforcing subsection 3 a) and paragraph 5.2.5 of the Offenses against Gay Horses Act.
archduke,
Good one!
Just wasted more money on 08700 100 222.
I complained about “Facing the Truth” on 2 grounds.
First, the beeb was making a moral equivalence between law-abiding citizens and terrorists by having the terrorists at the same table as victims from the Police and Army without the terrorists even acknowledging their group’s illegality, never mind asking the terrorists to personally repudiate their own membership of their group.
This vitiated the whole proceedings.
Second, IRA terrorists were treated much more respectfully than Loyalists. The panel, which was surely supposed to be even-handed, made a point of themselves questioning the Loyalist as to how could he become a terrorist but did not question the IRA men. Indeed, when an Army bomb victim began to question an IRA terrorist on this very point one of the panel interrupted to rescue the IRA man.
The beeb made a point of inserting a scene where an IRA man said he has no regrets about his IRA work into the programme’s title sequence. This was shown at the start of each programme and as a trailer.
I think the Loyalists and IRA were and are equally disgusting but I have always felt that the beeb has a soft spot (to put it mildly) for the IRA side.
get a load of this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4772090.stm
Quote:
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Very loudly they started saying: “Oh, you are from the BBC,” and proclaiming it to all around.
That triggered the wrath of a police officer who started ranting at me about how wrong it had been to print the cartoons, as if I had personally been responsible as the only foreigner present.
That was when I had to state my religion – throwing in for good measure that my husband was Iranian.
Instantly the mood changed – they melted into sweetness and light and suddenly the elderly couple were saying: “Oh yes, you are the one who tells the truth on air, unlike the others,” and the policeman was agreeing.
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1. I’m none the wiser as to what her religion is – she doesnt say what it is.
2. Iranian police agreeing with the statement of bystanders saying “you are the one who tells the truth on air”.
so there you have it. in black and white.
the bbc sides with our enemy so much , that our enemy agrees with what they say.
3. In the entire report there is not ONE mention of the M word or the I word.
This is just silly reporting- how the hell can anyone understand whats going on in Iran if you dont name the friggin’ ideology thats in control of that sorry place?
4. Media self focus. Suddenly we get a woman’s rights piece on Iran, only when it infringes on the BBC reporter directly.
Oh right – so all those stonings of women to death for “adultery” (islamic slang for “rape” ) and lashing of women for being “immodest” are all brushed under the carpet.
yeah. great stuff BBC. keep at it.
Amateur bloggers can do a better job, for free, than your £2 billion budget.
“I think the Loyalists and IRA were and are equally disgusting but I have always felt that the beeb has a soft spot (to put it mildly) for the IRA side.”
as an irish person, thats always puzzled me – especially since we’re talking about, from an IRA point of view, a broadcasting company of the “enemy”.
Although, seeing the BBC turn into al-BBC, that’s become a bit clearer. they should drop the first “B” in my view.
the IRA/Sinn Fein are pretty much treated in the Republic as the closest thing to Neo-Nazis that you can get.
Our Justice Minister hates them and everything they stand for (and rightly so…)
the kid gloves treatment they get from al-BBC is in stark contrast to the hounding they get in Irish media.
Tessa, we hardly knew ye. But look on the bright side. At least you won’t be lonely in the New Labour Pantheon of Sleaze…Animal Farm, chapter by chapter.
Tessa who? (As the headlines will have it by Friday…)
iran
“Nato may help US airstrikes on Iran”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2763-2070420,00.html
whats interesting is the paragraph that broke on the blogs last december. At the time, the only source was Turkish news agency, most blogs reported it – but with the proviso of , take with a pinch of salt.
But still the info was out there in the blogosphere.
Now the MSM have caught up:
“Porter Goss, the head of the CIA, visited Recep Erdogan, the prime minister of Turkey, a Nato country, late last year and asked for political, logistical and intelligence support in the event of airstrikes, according to western intelligence sources quoted in the German media.”
and also:
“The news magazine Der Spiegel noted: Washington appears to be dispatching high-level officials to prepare its allies for a possible attack.”
IDF special forces in Iran (also mentioned by the blogs ages ago) and the Israel nuke submarine issue are also covered:
The commander of Israel’s nuclear missile submarines warned Iran indirectly in a comment to an Israeli newspaper last week that “we are able to hit strategic targets in a foreign country”.
all of these issues are pretty well known if you’ve been following the blogs, rather than the BBC.
there’s still bugger all about this on the Beeb website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/default.stm
Its a constant lib/left conversational ploy, one which has permeated throughout the population – to compare the Loyalists to the IRA. One’s tolerant liberal credentials are thereby established “hey Im British but I hate the loyalists” or “Ian Paisley – he’s just as bad as Gerry Adams” but in fact establishing the badness of the IRA/Adams is never quite got around to while the badness of loyalists/Paisley is highlighted. That is also the MO as regards the Beeb. Gerry Adams is seen merely as a more serious version of Ken Livingslime while Paisley is viewed as a dangerous psychotic lunatic, I mean he thinks he’s British – how ridiculous!
I often wonder how this perceived abroad – the kind of betrayal it represents. Loyalists say they are British and for that they are metaphorically spat on by sections of the media/elites. I wonder what message it sends out to our enemies real or potential.
Heaven forbid we should question the nationality (or sanity) of asian, muslim traitors who fight against us in Afghanistan and end up banged up in Gitmo – they are British (got the passport) of course, question that? How could you? Are you a racist?
It is funny how the media have attacked Ian Paisley for decades and yet he has been proven right and has gained ever more support as those the media favoured like the UUP have disintegrated.
It shows that no matter how much propaganda the BBC might put out people are not fooled, and that the media has much less impact than it believes…….remember LIncoln’s comment about fooling the people….
get a load of this.
Robert Spencer, who’d probably be arrested in the UK under section 48b, paragraph 1.3.4 of the Offenses against Imams Act, and would also be in breach of the EU Be-A-Good-Dhimmi-Shut-Up Directive, has met with Dutch government officials:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010459.php
eye popping. now stand back – could you imagine Jack Straw or anyone in the UK government meeting him (or say, Ibn Warraq? )
whether the meeting was productive or not doesnt matter – the fact that it happened really does matter.
of course, none of this sea change in European politics is hinted at on the BBC.
Rick -> Ian Paisley is just looked over the border at my country and saw 70 years of Catholic theocracy masquerading as “democracy”. he wasnt wrong.
i lived under it – it was as bad as he made it out to be.
things only started really getting good after 1994ish.
“I often wonder how this perceived abroad – the kind of betrayal it represents. Loyalists say they are British and for that they are metaphorically spat on by sections of the media/elites. I wonder what message it sends out to our enemies real or potential.”
beats the hell out of me. i’m an irish nationalist by background and i think your loyalists get a seriously raw deal.so raw, i half wonder why the hell they are “loyal” in the first place. maybe its all the subsidies they get. northern ireland is a basket case economically right now.
its not as if the irish nationalist cause actually needed the british media – in fact, the british media was always viewed the “enemy” – Republicans just considered it as a tool of the “Crown forces” – and if it was malleable and easily infiltrated, all the better.
there’s a lesson for you in there, with regards to the current terrorist threat.
rick->”It shows that no matter how much propaganda the BBC might put out people are not fooled, and that the media has much less impact than it believes…….remember LIncoln’s comment about fooling the people….”
case in point:
CBS posted a $9 BILLION loss
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/23/D8FURQGO0.html
i’m not saying that the blogs are the answer, but as they say , what happens in America, usually happens in the rest of the world later on.
CBS is going the way of GM.
I would like to clarify my use of terms when writing above about “Facing the Future”.
I meant the term Loyalist to refer to Protestant terrorists.
I would refer to Ian Paisley and the DUP as Unionists, same for the UUP.
Sinn Fein/IRA (Northern Ireland Police Service be upon them) and SDLP I would describe as Nationalists or Republicans.
I have always admired IP for his unwavering grasp of the true situation in Ulster and for me his credibility is enhanced by attacks from the beeb and show business hangers-on acting on behalf of nulab.
One more point. I gained the impression from the similarity of attitude and words from the IRA terrorists that they had been schooled for the programme. Perhaps not specifically for this programme, but maybe they have the IRA equivalent of the Manchester Handbook from Al Q.
Looks like the IBC are somewhat “patriotic” when it comes to British oscar winners. How comes no muslim films are nominated, IBC?
Would they still be interested in the Oscars if Hollywood were populated by a bunch of neo-cons?
The World Service is leading every half hour with yet another attack on human rights/torture in Iraq. Including an interview with an EX member of thew UN who claims – without challelnge by the BBC – that military operations in the Anbar province aimed to root out the terrorists is bad for human rights in Iraq. Interviews with Amnesty and with the FORMER UN guy, no interview with the Iraq government or with the Coalition.
I don’t recall the BBC leading month in month out with human rights abuses under Saddam. It never leads its reports on human rights abuses in Cuba, in North Korea, in China.
The BBC is like a mouthpiece for the Socialist Workers Party. It KNOWS that this sort of unbalanced reporting causes yet more trouble in the Arab street. But then I suppose that it what it is trying to foment.
I now see little point in continuing with the World Service. It does not serve Britain, it attacks Britain.
The World Service then has “What’s Your Say” – it sounds like Lyse Douchette (grinding accent) – stirring things up with a constant refrain that Iraq is collapsing into civil war.
In a true civil war, about half the military and police defect to the side that opposes the formal Government. Think of the civil wars in the UK and the US. Or at the least, it is far wider conflict than the insurrection being mounted by a minority of the Sunni minority and the Al Q outsiders.
Lyse Douchette then invites comments to the effect that the Coalition should pull out. She does not counter with the fact that Coalition troops are there in support of the elected goverment under UN Resolution authority. Her general theme – “the situation is getting worse”. Quagmire, I suppose.