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Take a look at this fascinating exchange between the American Expat and Paul Reynolds of the BBC. I think Scott nails him with the logic of saying that either you report a claim of 100,000 civilian deaths (or more) in Iraq, and examine the methodology critically for the reader’s sake, or you don’t report it at all. Reynolds’ response?
‘It was simply a figure. I reported it. . What’s the problem?’
Yeah, no big deal.
Update 02/04: thanks to commenters, a challenge for Paul Reynolds (who added his comment too)- how about quoting this site’s analysis, which highlights the vital fact that 80% of the IBC civilian death count is male?
Bryan
Because even rabid dogs are beginning to see that the BBC has a very selective deffinition of extreamly dangerous and politicaly motivated RACISM. It never includes its own.
Globlelisation is as inevetable as death itself. Get used to both of these facts. So far in Britain the only beneficiary of this has been Gordon Brown and Tony Blair. We are living in a “death row” econemy. We could have been living in one of the best in the world….what a shame.
G Powell | 01.04.06 – 12:34 pm |
But I bet they can spell it.
The bods at the BBC are not being truely racist. They dont think they are genenicaly superior to Jews. They think they are intellectualy nicer people than the whole world. Such is the depth of their self denile.
Post offices were dealt another blow yesterday when the BBC announced an end to their contract to issue television licences after 60 years.
BBC getting cocky now its force funded future is assured. Politicians, of all stripes, consider keeping uneconomic sub-post offices open a “good thing”, the BBC looks to making them even more uneconomic. No doubt we will have to pay more in tax to support the PO, but see no benefit from the “£100m savings” claimed by the BBC.
The BBC said it would save £100 million over six years by giving the contract to PayPoint, a company that operates over-the-counter payments through shops such as Co-op, Londis, Spar, Costcutter, Texaco and Somerfield.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/01/nlicense01.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/01/ixhome.html
Henry
So you got less red marks on your English homework. So what. However its nice to know you read it. It does show that im not copying anyones idears, all my shit comes straight from the heart straight on the screan.
Winston Churchill practised his for days. DC takes 3 years.
will
Good point worth bringing up. Of cause this does beg the question of “what about all small shops serving the local community”? In my business I deal with many independant retailers. “Doom and Gloom” is a massive understatement of their current situation. The unrepresented independant retailer is going to become extinct and sooner than you think.
Small shoping areas only survive because other daytime small busineses and small shops survive.
Tesco makes record profits out of your future shopping diversity and independance from monopoly multi-national company and state control.
A prosperous and free nation has room for big, medium, and small retailers.
Please tell Brownstuff before your village or town are only good for ghosts. Because once gone they will not come back quickly. Trust me.
It is estimated that TESCO takes 50p in EVERY pound spent in Inverness the fastest growing city in the UK. They are building a fourth TESCO in the city and every time I go through there are more and more empty boarded up shops in the city centre. Once they have the monopoly watch the prices rise! We see it now with the gas and electric lot; you move to one, they keep the prices down for a month or two then blam! prices UP! Move again and keep on moving and it still costs you more and more each time.
Can someone PLEASE tell me where all the money we are handing over is going coz it sure ain’t being used on the NHS or schools etc!
O/T
thought this was quite funny.
attacking the bbc from the left.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/new/beebdemo.htm
from the above link
“The Stop the War Coalition is calling for protests outside BBC studios and offices across the country, on Tuesday 4th April.
This is to respond to the BBC’s failure to cover the huge troops home demonstration on March 18 on national news and also to protest the general pro-government bias of much of their reporting on the war.
We are asking groups to organise protests at every BBC office. We will be leafletting the offices with a copy of a letter addressed to Mark Thompson.”
On the main Have Your say page :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/default.stm
there’s a link asking :
“What Next For Iran ?”
But helpfully, we are given a hint on what to say :
“Iran is not an imminent threat and sanctions would be a bad idea, the UN nuclear watchdog chief warns. How do you think the nuclear crisis should be resolved?”
G Powell,
Was there a particular incident that spurred your observation that the BBC is anti-Jewish?
Of course, it can’t be said often enough – though they would indignantly deny it.
jx,
From your link:
This is to respond to the BBC’s failure to cover the huge troops home demonstration on March 18 on national news and also to protest the general pro-government bias of much of their reporting on the war.
They must be watching and listening to a different BBC from the one I’m familiar with. It’s funny, but it’s also bad news since this is exactly the kind of thing that lends credence to the BBC’s claims that it is perceived as biased only by the extreme left and right.
G Powell wrote that “Globalisation is as inevetable as death itself. Get used to both of these facts.”
The late Sir James Goldsmith said that a world without borders and tariff barriers is like a ship without bulkheads. This analogy is appropriate. Why do our businesses and workers have to have their rates reduced to the lowest found anywhere on the planet? Indeed, I note that the advocates of globalisation do not themselves face direct competition from elsewhere.
“Globalisation is as inevetable as death itself. Get used to both of these facts.”
It is not new even though media pundits think it is. In the period 1873-96 Britain went into The Great Depression as American, Australian and Argentinian wheat flooded into Europe and manufacturers moved production to low-wage countries like Germany.
American goods flooded European markets like Singer sewing machines and tariffs were erected first in the US, then Russia, France, Germany……………
Globalisation was more a fact prior to 1914 than it is today……………but in 1914 they got the first of the major wars and the rise of Soviet Communism which isolated the Russian market from the global economy for 80 years.
Prior to 1914 the most important markets for British goods were Russia and Germany after the McKinley Tariff cut off the Us marketplace.
The trouble is Gary it has all happened before and ended in tragedy….as it will again. There is no reason for the middle class in Europe to survive in a globalised economy and they may well sink back into the proletariat because everything they do can be done cheaper elsewhere.
General Motors just lost $10 billion and Delphi is seeking to close 21 of 29 plants and impose 60% wage cuts. If the world’s largest industrial corporation faces bankruptcy how long can middle class incomes be sustained ?
Allan@Aberdeen
I am a managing director of a manufacturing business. I have been dealing with the reality of globalisation all my profestional life. As my industry has never received any goverment help at all, it has nothing left to lose by as much globlelisation as possible. The fact of a Globle econemy has always been here. Its just that since the lefties lost communist Russia to the realities of life, they had to grab onto some new “sky is falling down” theory. They cant all live in trees and worship little sweet fury things.
What would you prefer paying £2000 for a crap colour TV and still paying all of Brownstuffs new taxes as well.
Nobody likes cold wet days either, but that is just the reality of the British weather..
So we dont make things much anymore. it may of escaped your notice, that we have not for quite a long time.
What this country should have been doing while the going was good. Was not makeing it as hard as humanly possible to run and grow a small new business. Or make employing your fellow man the single most dangerous thing you can do to your financial security. Short of getting married.
Not enough quick votes in it.
Can someone PLEASE tell me where all the money we are handing over is going coz it sure ain’t being used on the NHS or schools etc!
Easy !
Gordon Brown’s pet project – Working Families Tax Credit……..in the old days these wage subsidies would have been classed as “Benefits” but now they are classed as “Negative income Tax” so they “reduce” the tax take and make it look as if taxes are going down as a percentage of National Income.
Brown spends billions on means-tested benefits
The BBC constantly criticise American “foreign policy” Does it have anything to say to the same extent on Chinese “foreign policy?” Tibet is 100% occupied by China, they are a truly oppressed people but hardly a whisper Abbot this on the BBC.
http://www.tibettruth.com/territoriesmap.html
Prince Charles does have a pop at the Chinese but the BBC consider it more important to ridicule Charles than criticise what is still notionally a Communist State.
As for ignorant BBC interviewers they have all developed the habit of interrupting those of whom they have just asked a question.
“There you go again, interrupting me, when I’ve scarcely begun. Be careful. If that is all the self-control you have, you are lost”
BBC interviewers without self-control are acting like un-educated brutes, they then have the impertinence to ask why the young of today have no manners. Hypocrites.
In a globle market countries and busineses become more specialised. But selling their goods and services in a much bigger market place. Your wealth is not measured in relative terms. So efficient countries will benifit relatively the most. Goods and services become cheaper and therefore standards of living increase….for everyone.
At least they would have done. Except we have given, all the best material benifits to Gordon Brown.
You are right about non productive middle class wages. That is why so many of THEM now vote Labour.
Public servants produce only expensive head pains, their trip to the real world is still to come.
Did I read someone was in love with Condi Rice? Judging by the press photos jack Straw is making a fair imitation, he doesn’t appear able to keep his hands off her.
Rick
And mistakingly????? gave away £2 billion just before the last election. A story forgotten about by the BBC ASAP.
I have been out of touch with the news most of today. I just catch the BBC news at 10, and it all seems to be about “the protests”. Many camera angles are used to highlight “the protesters”. Clearly Condi is headed for a “quagmire” and North-West Lancashire is edging towards “civil war.” Strangeways prison will be the next Gitmo. Of course many of the protesters just happen to be part of the Ummah, no doubt doing what they have been told.
Here’s a suggestion Beeboids – go to your own HYS page and see what the majority of people in this country really think. But I know you couldn’t give a toss about them.
Sarge uncensored
I noticed that, and if he dont leave her alone theirs going to be a fight.
Rick
Your right. But inspite of this tax is still the highest of GDP as it has ever been. Paying for things that used to be free is also not taken into consideration.
This country has benifited from globlelisation BIG TIME. The British invented it. How this benifits the ordinary British citizen is what matters. That is where domestic politics comes in. What the Chinese and sub-continent do with their increased prosperity, is a worry. but their will be bugger all we can do about it. Which hopefully is just as good.
Peace though trade
I have never killed a customer or a supplier, however much I may have wanted to.
G Powell wrote:
“So we dont make things much anymore. it may of escaped your notice, that we have not for quite a long time.”
The enormous and unsustainable trade deficit hasn’t escaped my notice. Some ‘economists’ say that it doesn’t matter. If that were the case, would it be preferable that we (the UK) have a trade surplus, or a trade deficit?
So how do we pay for these imports of consumer goods? In short, what do we have that China and India would be willing to buy?
Worthies such as Sir Digby Jones, formerly Chairman of the CBI (Confederation of British Importers) have stated that we would do the really clever, hi-tech stuff which India and China will buy from us and everything will be tickety-boo. For Gary, I am a Chartered Engineer and I work with graduates from China and India: they are as good as we are, and will soon be better. So back to the question and I note that no-body in the BBC faces competeition from a lower-paid worker for his/her post.
What lefties dont like about the globle econemy, is that it has largely deminished the power of large industrial trade unions. In all countries. The basis of their political power. So they have to play the capitalist game and lie a lot more. Big problem for the world and us is, thats 2006 National Socialism in drag.
Allan@Aberdeen
Can not disagree with anything you have said. All I can tell you is I have been dealing with it for 28 years, and still make a living. If we had had your attitude in the past, we would never had built big ships.
Most of my competition comes direct from China however I still compeat on price and service.
Yes; your wages might well indead go down. If I had not changed my products and become more productive I would have none at all by now.
But if your goverment stopped robbing you, you would still end up better off.
Are you sure you just dont like the idear that a yellow man might earn more than you?
If so; just stop the goverment paying non-productive but perfectly fit people to do nothing all day. And wasting your taxes on the rest of its Bullshit. This country is still a democracy, so I think you best start making the best of it.
Reality sucks sometimes. What can I say.
It really does not matter to much about tradeing inequities between countries. These things do have a habbit of sorting themselves out. In the 1920s the great depression was caused when to many goods were chasing not enough paying customers. Their is a lot of customers in the world. They generaly are not doing badly all at the same time. We also have tourists from the more efficient countries spending money, on premium products.
Have faith Britain still has a hard working organised workforce and large infastructure. Financial skills and a world language.
Gordon Brown is our biggest problem right now. Socialist chancellors like him always have been.
As it still does say on the gate at saxenhousen WORK MAKES FREEDOM. Hitler was right about one thing. This country is rapidly becomeing the first slave state of 21st centuary Europe.
I see that the BBC is telling us that Indonesia, or its dodgy regime at least, is ‘irked’ by a cartoon in an Australian paper. Why is that any more newsworthy than that the Australians were not irked by the Indonesian cartoon which preceded it? Do we care if Indonesians are irked about cartoons? Many people are irked by many things every day in this big world of ours, but is it news?
Is this another manifestation of the strange BBC attitude which expects better behaviour from those who live in mainly white countries? Not that the BBC is racist or anything …
BTW
A large unsustainable trade surplus can cause nearly as much problems as the opposite. Ask the Japanese.
We have noted how BBC folk like John Simpson and Paul Reynolds have a penchant for quoting Professor juan Cole as an “expert” on Iraq. Just a little digging produced a whole series of howlers by Cole. If I can dig – why can’t they or their research staff ?
The web is chock-a-bloc with references toi serious errors that Cole has made, so I have selected just a few.
Here is Juan Cole informing us that the London bombers were not home-grown :
http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/update-on-london-bombing-investigation.html
His piece is headed “Informed Comment” See why the man is a joke ?
And try these comments on his inaccuracies and bias, and the way he tries to cover up his errors :
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2005/07/juan_cole_and_h.html
http://decision08.blogspot.com/2005/07/weekly-jackass-number-thirty-five-juan.html
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/007187.php
http://elephantsinacademia.blogspot.com/2005/07/honoring-one-of-our-own.html
http://foreigndispatches.typepad.com/dispatches/2005/04/juan_cole_errs_.html
Oh, and an amusing glitch by this so-called “expert” was on 1 April last year, when he headlined a piece “The Government in Iraq is not even close to being formed”. Two days later Reuters reported “Iraqi politicians elected a Sunni to be speaker of the Parliament on Sunday, ending a political impasse and taking a decisive step towards forming a government nine weeks after the historic elections.”
In other words, the headline by the biased “expert” on whom senior BBC reporters choose to rely was proved wrong before the ink was dry on his statement.
(Here is the Reuters reference) :
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/006606.php
And here are some more references to Cole’s clumsy errors – which many presume to be based on his bias and spleen against Bush :
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/007322.php
And finally – Cole made a truly spiteful and scurrilous attack on the reputations of a front-line journalist Stephen Vincent and his translator when they were killed in Basra last year. In an open letter to Cole, Stephen Vincent’s widow summed up Cole’s character to a T :
http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/002697.html
http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2005/08/juan-cole-takes-cowardly-spiteful.html
http://www.samefacts.com/archives/the_war_in_iraq_/2005/08/note_to_juan_cole.php
http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/002713.html
But I suppose the BBC will continue to treat people like Cole as the font of all wisdom on ME affairs. And then wonder how we have the nerve to accuse them of bias.
I have never heard much on the BBC of this hugely important statement of principle by Tony Blair, that we are fighting to preserve civilisation against extremism :
http://media.michellemalkin.com/3-21Blair.wmv
I expect they dropped his 21 March statement down the memory hole pretty quick, and also his statement in Australia. Both statements cut clean across the BBC/Guardian-bubblethink.
Dumbcisco
The BBC is a prime example of what happens when their is ever extream power without any responsibility. Thats why they want us to be so nice to violent criminals. They know how they feel.
The BBC has shown utter cowardice in not publishing the Danish cartoons.
In Canada a local newspaper published 4 of the cartoons as part of the ongoing debate about freedom of speech and the crazy and sometimes murderous riots that had been deliberately fomented by imams in the Muslim world – including the imams’ use of false cartoons. Now a Canadian imam with extremist connections has complained to the state Human Rights Commission. The newspaper has responded. This reply by a small newspaper defending freedom of speech puts the mighty BBC to shame :
Click to access response_to_complaint.pdf
After all the fuss that the BBC made over that loony peacenik Norman Kember, it is surprising they have not turned to Bruce Kent and Moazzim Begg for comments on the latest stupid statement by one of the released hostages – that the release was a lie, just a stunt by the Coalition :
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/editorialsletters/story.html?id=ec5eb049-0e69-45c1-93a3-1dbf7ac25836
Yes, I am back !
May not matter much to you, but it does to me.
Vote against the liars on May 4th, that is my message.
Last year a new law was introduced to stop ‘bill-posting’. Why do you think that was necessay? Because most of them said, “NO MORE LIES MR. BLAIR”.
At 06:00 am GMT I was listening to the World Service news, fully expecting them to lead with released Christian Science Monitor journalist Jill Carroll, especially with her remarkable admission that her statement made in the presence of her kidnappers was under duress and did not represent her true feelings:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/01/D8GNF0B00.html
So what do they lead with? Snap elections in Thailand. And Carroll’s story is tucked away near the end of the news. Then they go on, during The World Today to deal with such earth-shattering matters as:
*Snap elections in Thailand
*A town in Pakistan’s earthquake zone not to be rebuilt there
*Oppression and killing in Uganda
*Finding the source of the Nile
At that point I switched off in disgust.
Silly me, expecting the World Service to deal at length with a wonderfully uplifting story of a journalist who criticizes her Iraqi kidnappers and the killers of her interpreter.
For many Islamists Condi Rice epitomises everything they hate.
She is:
1.American
2.Female
3.Black
Yes Beeboids, they are:
1.xenophobic
2.sexist
3.racist
So why is the BBC trying to get into bed with them?
As for Indonesia it has an appalling human rights record, come on beeboids let’s have a Panorama programme on what it is like to be a prisoner in an Indonesian jail.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/How-to-survive-an-Indonesian-jail/2005/04/21/1114028470579.html
“If I wanted to go to the toilet, I had to find a jam jar or coke bottle, only the Muslims got buckets.”
Is France civilised?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilan_Halimi
Media reports
In English:
Killing in France Seen as ‘Wake-Up Call’, Washington Post, 25 February 2006
Unbelieveably this is the BBC report COMPLETE WITH SPELLING MISTAKE!
Murder suspect returns to France
Ivorian security personnel handed Mr Fofana to French soldiers
The chief suspect in a French torture and murder case that has shocked the country is back in France after his extradition from Ivory Coast.
Youssef Fofana, a Frenchman of Ivorian decent
DECENT!!!
French Officials Now Say Killing of Jew Was in Part a Hate Crime, New York Times, 23 February 2006
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4774000.stm
No mention of
Ilan Halimi, a 23 year old Jewish man was abducted by a gang known as Les Barbares, …
So read today’s Sunday Times instead which details the case
Unbelieveably this is the BBC report COMPLETE WITH SPELLING MISTAKE!
Which mistake……”unbelieveably” instead of “unbelievably” ?????
MURDER OF WHITE GIRL BY MUSLIMS IGNORED BY MEDIA
Britain’s heavy controlled Politically Correct mass media continue to ignore one of the most unpleasant cases of suspected racist murder – which probably involved gang rape as well. 14-year-old Charlene Downes is believed by Blackpool police to have been turned into kebabs and tile grout after her disappearance in November 2003. Two Muslim men – one a former social worker – have been charged with her murder or with assisting in the disposal of her body. The combination of murder, the appalling likelihood that scores of unwitting customers actually ate Charlene, and the unasked question as to whether this was another case involving the grooming for sex and drugs of a young white girl by a Muslim sex predator gang should have made this killing national front page news. But, with the sole exception of the Metro (Manchester version) Friday 10th March 2006 (report reproduced here) not one significant newspaper has even mentioned Charlene and her terrible fate. Perhaps this will change when her alleged killer and his accomplice come to full trial. But the media bias is already all too clear. Cases such as the murder of Anthony Walker became national news within hours of their murder, running with ever-increasing media frenzy until – and beyond – the actual trial of his moronic drug-using killers…. Metro report:
“The body of a missing schoolgirl may have been turned into burgers and kebabs and served up at a seaside fast food outlet. Police fear the remains of 14 year old Charlene Downes, who went missing in November 2003, may also have been ground up into tile grout. Iyad Albattikhi, 28, who ran the Funny Boyz takeaway in Blackpool, is charged with her murder. The co-owner of the business Mohammed Raveshi, a 49 year old former social services worker and foster father, is charged with assisting in the disposal of her body. The men appeared at a hearing at Blackpool maistrates court yesterday. The teenager whose body has never been found left home on Halloween saying she was meeting friends on Blackpool’s North Pier. It was initially thought Charlene, a pupil at St George’s Church of England High School, had run away. Appeals for her to come forward were subsequently posted in missing persons’ columns. However six months after her disappearance police searched freezers at three Blackpool curry houses looking for her remains. During the investigation some 3000 men were DNA tested and a TV appeal for information was broadcast on the BBC’s Crimewatch show. Darren Day, Charlene’s favourite West End performer, even made a plea for help in finding her. During the ten minute hearing yesterday the two accused, who were flanked in the secure dock by four security officers, spoke only to confirm their names and ages and to state that they understood the charges against them. Neither of the defendant’s lawyers applied for bail.
Nick Robinson the BBC Political editor has commented in his blog on the Blair speeches on environment and terrorism and notes that Blair has said his speech on terrorism by ‘Islamic extremists’ was buried. Wonder who by?
http://blogs.bbc.co.uk/nickrobinson/2006/03/final_stop.html
Re the spelling mistakes, Sarge is not being paid to post spelling mistakes.
BBC journalists are paid. Problem is, if you gave that article back to the journalist and asked him/her to find the mistake, he/she would probably not be able to.
BBC’s standard of English has slipped radically in recent years as part of the overall decline in the organisation.
Hell, even I know the difference between ‘descent’ and ‘decent’.
Sarge uncensored,
Here’s the caption to the photo from your link:
Ivorian security personnel handed Mr Fofana to French soldiers
Yeah, right. This is the same Mr Fofana who apparently bragged to his girlfriend in the Ivory Coast about his torture of Ilan Halimi.
But the BBC is oh so careful to give him a respectful title.
Unlike the way they usually speak of the president of the US: Bush
Rick 1.59PM. That’s interesting,I wasn’t aware of this Lady journalist or that she is Mr Rubin’s wife.Just had a quick look at her Wikipedia entry.Is she more moonbatty than Rubin? (seems so at a glance)
Bryan 2.01PM,thanks for that confirmation. It’s disappointing because my memory of his posts from a while back were that he was a ray of hope that there might be some sanity in the BBC news organisation.
dave t
That is a good report you linked to by Nick Robinson. Blair’s theme in a series of speeches has been largely ignored by the BBC. So it is worth going to Nick Robinson’s blog and asking why there has been this editorial block – after all, he is their senior political correspondent.
intresting debt, http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbfivelive/F2148564?thread=2624849 what do you think?
KdB,
Well, Mr Reynolds may return to cross swords with us again. I’m not a veteran contibutor to this site. Others will have more of a handle on the Reynolds debate and the history thereof.
What impresses me about him is that at least he is willing to engage with his critics and respond to complaints.
This is refreshingly uncharacteristic of the BBC.
R5L’s Worricker show just did a bit on party funding. Guess which “expert” they had on? Billy Fucking Bragg, yet again. Nice of the lefties at the BBC to give out so much of the licence fee to their socialist mates.
“I was twenty-one times on the BBC
It’s twenty-two now (with appearance fee)…”
Interesting vignette from Broadcasting House: Caroline Coon, erstwhile flower child and feminist, had a go at Islam saying that the sight of jilbabs etc was as offensive to her as a swastika: embarrassed silence from presenter (Paddy ?) and Michael Portillo (the “conservative” balancing item). Ms Coon then continued – in her lefty Stop the War way – by saying that the Iraqi blogger nominee for the Samuel Johnson Prize cannot now go out of her house without a male member of her family in attendance whereas before the war – under the Great Leader Saddam Hussein – womens’s rights were sacrosanct: no mention of other rights about which that Saddam might have been less protective. Rapid change of subject followed. I don’t think Ms Coon will be heard again on BBC this year (or decade) unless she can be a bit more diplomatic about the Religion of Peace.
Bryan
Yes, Paul Reynolds does sometimes respond. But he then has a tendency to stop responding.
On the question of his use of the Lancet death estimates and his reference to Juan Cole, I think Reynolds is wrong on both counts and has in no way justified the way he framed his piece.