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  1. archduke says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5171864.stm

    lets have a game of spot the missing word, shall we?

    “Lashkar-e-Toiba, a leading Pakistan-based militant group fighting in Kashmir, rejected suggestions that it had been behind the attacks.”

    who are these people – Scientologists? Quakers? Communists? Daily Mail readers?

    “A second group, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, also condemned the blasts”

    again, who are these people? Amish? Hindu? Adolf Hitler fanboys? Stalinists? FHM reading lager louts?

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  2. TAoL Reincarnated says:

    The BBC has previous, as shown by this piece of reporting:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/4817432.stm

    L-e-T is, of course, not described as a violent Islamist group.

    This sentence is striking:

    “[The judge said] Khan was a person of authority in Lashkar-e-Toiba – now known as Jammat-ud-dawa and banned in the UK – who could call on millions of pounds raised by UK supporters”.

    Yes: there is a possibility – probability – that British citizens played a part in yesterday’s Bombay atrocity.

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  3. Steve E. says:

    After the praise for yesterday’s BBC2 documentary on the Tel-Aviv suicide murderers, the Beeb have scheduled another insight into the consequences of theocratic totalitarianism…

    Execution of a Teenage Girl (BBC2, Thurs 27 July)

    ‘The life of 16-year-old Atefah Sahaaleh, who was hanged in a public square in Neka, Iran, in 2004 after being charged with ‘crimes against chastity’. The programme documents the events leading up to her death through the use of eyewitness accounts, reconstructions and undercover footage, and tells the tragic story of what can happen under the power of the country’s male religious leaders.’

    Amazing how even in their press information they manage to avoid the M-word yet again!

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  4. archduke says:

    Here’s another game of spot the missing word:

    “Mumbai blasts: Who are the suspects?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5172586.stm

    hint: it starts with the letter I

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  5. Eamonn says:

    Irish?

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  6. Steve E. says:

    Nice to see that the recommendations on HYS are, as usual, critical of the Beeb’s reluctance to mention that bleedin’ enormous elephant that’s parked itself in the room…

    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 18:49 GMT 19:49 UK
    Firstly, to the BBC, please refrain from calling people who kill innocent people “militants”. They are terrorists and ought to be labelled as such. Do you call the perpetrators of 9/11 of 7/7 “militants”.

    The international community needs to put extraordinary pressure on muslims all over the world to police themselves. We must prevent more people being recruited into terrorism. They were not born evil. There must be people who know the people responsible for this kind of behaviour.

    Lastly, to the terrorists, Kashmir is part of India and always will be. Over the dead bodies of 900 million Indians will Kashmir ever be partitioned. And that’s forgetting the millions of Indians worldwide.

    Samir Mody, Oxford, UK

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 18:07 GMT 19:07 UK
    I send to the people of Mumbai my deepest condolences as a Londoner who experienced this evil in my city. I also pose a question just how many non-muslim deaths are enough before the so called religion of peace stands up and expunges this cancer in its breast?

    Christian, London

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 18:52 GMT 19:52 UK
    Lets be politically incorrect and admit the truth. The Islamists are the biggest problem in India as in rest of the world. With such “strings attached” condemnation of violence (as displayed by a gentleman in this board) it only proves a sort of ‘tacit’ support for such incidents by the majority of the community.

    deep, Mumbai, India

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 19:14 GMT 20:14 UK
    Question to left wingers: which “root cause” was responsible for this attack? Obviously not Iraq/Afghanistan/Israel since India isn’t involved in any of those conflicts

    Have Your Say Only if the BBC …

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 18:09 GMT 19:09 UK
    As a Londoner who witnessed July 7th last year I send my heartfelt condolences to all those affected in this terrible act of terrorism.

    When will all this madness end?? Bali, New York, Madrid, London, Instanbul, Israel, Beslan, London and now Mumbai.

    We must unite to destroy these cowards!!

    Terence Mcann, London, United Kingdom

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 18:12 GMT 19:12 UK
    Liberals get outraged about guaranteeing terrorists civil rights. Other than the typical “we deserved these attacks” where is that outrage now?

    Matt Judge, Chicago, United States

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 18:42 GMT 19:42 UK
    The finger for this dastardly deed definitely points towards the muslims. But, as always, it is the extreme fringe minority that will be involved. What about the silent majority of muslims who are moderates? Should they just keep quiet?
    This would be a good time for them to come out in big numbers to proclaim their opposition to such acts. And also to actively involve themselves at various levels of their community to rid themselves of this scrouge before it destroys them all.

    Mark, Mumbai

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 17:34 GMT 18:34 UK
    Mumbai blast is another reminder that terrorism has no borders. Coward terrorists seek easy ways to carry their savage attacks. They choose places where there are unarmed and ordinary people to execute their savage attacks. They have no concern for the fate of those trapped in the attacks or the pain they cause to their friends and relatives.

    They can’t play it fair. They seek no democratic means to put their case through. Democratic countries are their target like India, US and UK.

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    Added: Tuesday, 11 July, 2006, 19:00 GMT 20:00 UK
    I have full sympathy and solidarity with the people of Mumbai – one of the 7/7 bombs in London went off just yards from my flat. I’m also currently on holiday in New York – one striking thing I’ve noticed here is that Americans are taking this attack in Mumbai with considerable solidarity and sympathy towards the Indian people.

    Perhaps this means that Britain, India and America – three great Anglophonic democracies – are finally learning to see terror as a common threat that must be confronted with a unified front.

    H Juneja, London, United Kingdom

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  7. TAoL Reincarnated says:

    Iain Duncan Smith?

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  8. Anonymous says:

    archduke

    who are these people – Scientologists? Quakers? Communists? Daily Mail readers?
    archduke | Homepage | 12.07.06 – 1:44 pm | #

    The answer is in the BBC’s profile of Lashar:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3181925.stm

    Clearly labelled as Islamic.

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  9. Biodegradable says:

    hint: it starts with the letter I
    archduke | 12.07.06 – 2:39 pm

    Eamonn:
    Irish?
    Eamonn | 12.07.06 – 2:49 pm

    That’s easy. Must be Israel.

    Haven’t the Saudis or the Iranians claimed yet that Mossad was involved?

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  10. Penny Sillyn says:

    Just discovered this site/blog. Well done.

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  11. will says:

    We don’t hear much about Enron’s bosses being Bush’s mates any more, do we?

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  12. Penny Sillyn says:

    As a newbie to this site/blog, can anyone please explain to me what the “link to this comment” feature is for?

    Are our email addresses private for example?

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  13. archduke says:

    “link to this comment” – allows you to link directly to a comment from your blog.

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  14. Moonbatsman says:

    Look, it happened in Bombay, right? So the “I” word must be “Indian”.

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  15. pete says:

    BBC News on leads on the Israeli/Lebanon story. Fair enough. But why do the six year record UK unemployment figures rate below the EU cuting mobile phone call costs, the public’s distaste for badger culls and a spacewalk for the shuttle crew?

    Well, when you need the government to give you a massive, above inflation licence fee increase over the next few years, where would the sense be in drawing the public’s attention to rapidly rising unemployment?

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  16. archduke says:

    ah yes, moonbatman, those “indian” “militants” that want to separate away from, errr, India. well, that clears that one up.

    pete -> i think we all know the answer to that one.

    looks like this israeli/lebanon incident could escalate into all out war:
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885976658&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

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  17. Penny Sillyn says:

    Thankyou archduke.

    I got confused because when I clicked on the icon by my comment (to see what it was for) my email address then came up – obviously I’d rather not have my email address made public so I just want it clarified that that is not the case.

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  18. will says:

    The top recommended post re Bombay bombings reproduced above by Steve E, ie

    Firstly, to the BBC, please refrain from calling people who kill innocent people “militants”. They are terrorists and ought to be labelled as such. Do you call the perpetrators of 9/11 of 7/7 “militants”.

    has disappeared completely.

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&edition=1&ttl=20060712153320&messageID=1071238&#1071238

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  19. archduke says:

    good lord – “olmert declares war”

    http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html

    or is that YnetNews getting ahead of itself?

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  20. dave t says:

    And add the half million Labour voters Brown has put into the civil service and the million on Incapacity benefit and the true figure is a darned sight more than 3million!

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  21. will says:

    Mumbai (D)HYS – also disappeared is

    Question to left wingers: which “root cause” was responsible for this attack? Obviously not Iraq/Afghanistan/Israel since India isn’t involved in any of those conflicts

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  22. dave t says:

    Oops! Remember this happy day?

    “A couple’s plans for a £5,000 wedding at Alton Towers were thrown into confusion yesterday after it emerged that the theme park had double booked them with a fun day for 20,000 Muslims.

    Amanda Morris, 30, and her fiance, Scott Lee, 31, have been told that if they go ahead with the ceremony they will not be allowed to go on celebratory rides together.

    Furthermore, Miss Morris and her female guests will have to cover up to be in line with guests of Islamic Leisure wearing hijabs. “I’ve been looking forward to this day for 18 months, and suddenly it’s in ruins,” she said yesterday.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/12/nwedd12.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/07/12/ixuknews.html
    The couple have since contacted Islamic Leisure, whose staff confirmed that the wedding party would be asked to adhere to their conditions.

    Yaseen Patel, the organisation’s director, confirmed: “The body will have to be covered, (though) they do not have to wear the hijab.”

    An Alton Towers spokesman said staff would be discussing “the options available” with the couple.

    She claimed it was a condition of the Islamic Leisure booking that wedding and hotel guests would be exempt from the Muslim dress code.

    Yeah…right! As if that is going to be happen!

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  23. Eamonn says:

    How long before the BBC starts to blame the USA?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5173228.stm

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  24. Penny Sillyn says:

    I noticed a thread about that on one of the BBC Message Boards.

    Apparently, the BBC removed the “offending” post (linking to the Daily Telegraph report).

    The person who posted it kicked up a bit of a fuss and the post has now been reinstated.

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  25. Steve_Mac says:

    BBC, Have Your Say question:
    Is the G8 fit for purpose?
    Is this group of rich countries an effective forum to solve the world’s current problems?

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&edition=2&ttl=20060712142539&messageID=1073750&

    I am no expert on the G8 but I am reasonably sure it was not set up to solve the “world’s problems”. Isn’t that the UN’s mission?

    http://www.g7.utoronto.ca/what_is_g8.html
    University of Toronto G8 Information Center

    What is the G8?

    Since 1975, the heads of state or government of the major industrial democracies have been meeting annually to deal with the major economic and political issues facing their domestic societies and the international community as a whole.

    Giving people a clearer idea of the G8’s actual reason for being, instead of setting it up as the world’s savior, would help people better decide if it is succeeding, or not, and fit for purpose. The way it is set up now this has become nothing more than a forum for criticizing the G8.

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  26. Penny Sillyn says:

    Oops – forgot to include the link:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbfivelive/F2148564?thread=3245707

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  27. Jim T. says:

    Those unemployment figures. Only last week I was reading what a good thing immigration was as there was a shortage of people to do the jobs that need doing. Now we read unemployment is at its highest for a number of years. Can someone explain the connection, please, or am I being cynical in saying that there’s a lot of immigrants claiming benefit?

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  28. Penny Sillyn says:

    Apologies – I posted the link from the BBC Message Board into the wrong place – it’s now become my “home page”.

    I don’t have a home page.

    You can tell I’m new at this, can’t you.

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  29. Mister Minit says:

    Steve E.: “Amazing how even in their press information they manage to avoid the M-word yet again!”

    Come on, I don’t think that the BBC are trying to hide the fact that the “male religious leaders” in question are of the Muslim faith.

    If there goal was indeed to cover up the barbarity of the Islamic world, then why would they show the documentary in the first place?

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  30. archduke says:

    7 IDF killed so far today , according to the WP
    http://www.blogger.com/publish.g?blogID=20929239&inprogress=true

    airstrikes have hit bridges in southern lebanon, cutting the region off.

    Israeli aircraft have also buzzed Beirut. Israeli naval ships have also hit targets in southern Lebanon.

    rolling updates at these links:

    http://www.mererhetoric.com/
    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/
    http://betbender.blogspot.com/

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  31. max says:

    I notice that the BBC are on a spin campaign regarding the building up tensions between Israel and Lebanon.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5171616.stm

    There are many examples of this including the use of the phrase
    “clashes across the Lebanese-Israeli border”, indicating that blame is to be found on both sides.
    Or the claim that “Hezbollah launched dozens of Katyusha rockets and mortar bombs at the Israeli town of Shlomi and at Israeli outposts in the disputed Shebaa Farms area”, when in fact the shelling took place all across the border and not particularly at the Shabaa Farms area as this map (scroll down) clearly shows; emphasizing the attack as being on the Shabaa Farms mitigates the Hizballah’s actions.
    Or under-reporting, if at all, on the Israeli civilian casualties as a result of the Hizballah attack.
    Or setting the report in such a way as to imply that the Hizballah offensive was merely a subsequent response to Israeli Gaza operations, while at the same time presenting Israel as an agressor in a story which has no apparent relevance to the report:

    Overnight, Israel carried out an air strike on a Gaza City house, killing at least six people and injuring 15.

    On Wednesday morning, Hezbollah launched dozens of Katyusha rockets and mortar bombs at…

    But the most significant is the BBC’s misrepresentation and out of context quoting of Israeli PM, again, to make him and Israel look like the agressors:

    BBC – Israel’s PM Ehud Olmert said the attack was an “act of war” by Lebanon.
    Mr Olmert has said he holds Lebanon responsible for the fate of the two soldiers and that it would pay a “heavy price”.
    “We are already responding with great strength,” he said, threatening “very painful and far-reaching” action.

    What EO said – “the events this morning are not terror attacks but actions of a sovereign state that attacked Israel for no reason. The Lebanese government, of which Hizbullah is a member, is trying to destabilize regional stability. Lebanon is responsible and it will bear responsibility…”
    …”These are difficult days for the State of Israel and its citizens. There are elements in the north and south that threaten our stability and challenge our stamina and determination, They will fail and pay a dear price for their actions…”
    …Israel’s response will be “restrained” but “very painful.”

    My guess is that the BBC has a problem with his statement, in particular the first sentence, for Israel had fully withdrawn from Lebanon in compliance with UN resolutions so it’s very difficult to make Israel the bad guy here. Very difficult, but not impossible it appears.

    Ehud Olmert Quotes taken from here:
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3274385,00.html

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  32. archduke says:

    “or am I being cynical in saying that there’s a lot of immigrants claiming benefit?”

    well, 50,000 Somalis came here because of the benefits clampdown in Holland.

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  33. archduke says:

    here’s a direct link to the graphic that max refers to above:
    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/833648/Picture-1_wa.jpg

    that sure looks like a pretty extensive attack by Hizbollah.

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  34. Steve E. says:

    Wait a Minit…

    No-one is suggesting that the Beeb want to “cover-up” anything. What I was making reference to was their value judgements.
    “Male religious leaders” could apply equally to the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Dalai Lama, neither of whom advocate the death by hanging of homosexuals and the execution of teenage girls for the sin of “crimes against chastity”.

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  35. J.G. says:

    BBBC moderators.

    I really think the BBC has sunk to a new low today. They have a 550 word article mentioned in posts above that asks
    “Mumbai blasts: Who are the suspects?”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5172586.stm

    Yet, as has been pointed out, no-where in the piece are the words muslim or islamic used. This is just incredible and symptomatic of the bias by omission now common-place at the IBC.

    Could I suggest that this needs to be flagged up with a post on the main blog page, rather than just in the comments sections. The bias doesn’t get more blatant than this.

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  36. pounce says:

    Mr Minit wrote;
    “If there goal was indeed to cover up the barbarity of the Islamic world, then why would they show the documentary in the first place?”

    Why?
    To continue the good work Al Beeb is doing in painting the picture that Islam is a peaceful race that can coexist with anybody.

    Pity they leave out;Apostates,Christians,Hindu,Gays,women and even Muslims from that whitewash.

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  37. pounce says:

    Al Beeb and its pro terrorist reporting.

    I know that this story has already being dissected but I just wish to add my pennies worth.

    Hezbollah warns Israel over raids.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5173078.stm

    Would any Terrorist apologist from the Beeb wish to defend how a retaliatory response from Israel after an unprovoked attack on her land from Lebanon by Hezbollah garners the headline.
    “Hezbollah warns Israel over raids.”

    Err my Mecca facing acolytes The terrorists drew the first blood by attacking first if anything that absolutely disgusting headline should read;
    “Israel warns Lebanon over raids.”

    But no,in typical sycophant language AL BBC reports how her masters are the bloody victims yet again. Just like they made out those 2 suicide bombers last night on BBC2 were victims and how every Jihad swearing idiot is a victim. AL Beeb please continue you good work for when some f-ing idiot puts a brick through my window shouting “Paki twat” I will ensure that I will sue your arse for damaging race relations and if that doesn’t transpire I will ensure that you will pay for the hole in my window.

    Pounce the cat pissed off at how AL Beeb defends the terrorist.

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  38. pounce says:

    A little something I read in the Guardian today. Something I don’t think Al beeb will shout out loud;

    Browne says BBC interview endangered lives of troops

    Richard Norton-Taylor
    Wednesday July 12, 2006
    The Guardian

    Des Browne, the defence secretary, yesterday accused the BBC of endangering the lives of British troops by interviewing Taliban leaders in southern Afghanistan.

    One Taliban leader was heard saying that British forces were there “not for reconstruction but to fight a war”, he said, referring to an interview with a Taliban commander on BBC television news programmes on Monday evening.

    “That puts our troops at risk,” Mr Browne told the Commons defence committee. “Every word said here in parliament or the media” was used by the Taliban, which had an “impressive information operation”, he warned

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/military/story/0,,1818407,00.html

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  39. dumbcisco says:

    The BBC line is very similar to the arch-liberal New York Times line – not just the Guardian. Listening to the BBC’s US staff, they usually parrot the script-of-the-day from the NYT and the LA Times and the Washington Post. I don’t think they read any other US paper.

    The NYT has been in very hot water over revealing secret info about how the US has been trying to track terrorists’ finances. This followed their leaking of secret info about telephone survweillance of contacts between known Al Q folk and people in the US.

    This link goes to a cute line that Laura Ingraham and others have been using – “The NYT doesn’t have a dog in the fight” – it is essentially neutral or anti in the War on Terror. By attacking Bush on his central policy, they hope to weaken him on every other policy. They have a world-view of global liberalism – or “progressivism”, and they simply hate George Bush and all he stands for. Their line is essentially socialist, as are so many of their writers.

    As this mirrors much of the BBC output, people may find the clip relevant.

    http://www.exposetheleft.com/2006/07/12/ingraham-nytimes/

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  40. pounce says:

    Al Beeb and how it defends Ghettos in the Uk as a good thing;
    Living in the ghetto? Possibly not
    By Dominic Casciani
    Community affairs reporter, BBC News

    Is segregation a state of mind?

    Is Britain segregated? Do people live in ghettos defined by their race or religion – and is this something to fear?

    But organisers of a conference about the experience of Muslims in British cities, say it’s time we re-thought what is meant by segregation and ghettos.

    “Muslims may live in one area, they may go to Halal shops, they may go to the mosque,” says Dr Tasleem Shakur, one of the organisers of the conference at the University of Central England in Birmingham.

    “They are quite happy and do not need to necessarily step outside of that community and it is not causing any harm.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5170862.stm

    So they are causing no harm are they AL Beeb. By keeping to themselves (A stance defended by Liberals everywhere) we find 2 and 3rd generation Muslims who do not have a decent grasp of the native language. Don’t believe me take a walk down Brick lane London. Manningham lane Bradford and Saville town road in Dewsbury.
    It is that “This corner of England is still Pakistan” attitude which ensures that Muslims do not fare as well as the immigrants who have assimilated. Trying to saying the jews lived in Ghettos as well is so bloody petty;

    “”I came across this book from 1900 called The Jew in London,” she says.
    “What is fascinating about the maps is that it shows the so-called ‘Jewish ghetto’ of 100 years ago. But Jewish people just don’t live [in numbers] in those areas anymore.”

    The fact remains AL Beeb the jews do assimilate.( I dated a Jewish girl for 2 years before I found out she was Jewish. (Granted the name ‘Levy’ should have given the name away.) And you know what I didn’t give a jot.

    So back to the subject at hand. Muslims in the Uk pledge allegiance to the countries they sought refuge from rather than their new country. (May explain why so many asylum seekers go on holidays to the very countries that are trying to kill them. (Either that or they are lying?) It is because of this them and us attitude which promotes a victim culture. (Simply based on the larger demography of non Muslims in their new countries) That attitude has manifested into a visible polarisation which is expressed by Muslims, Liberals and of course AL Beeb as Islamophobia or A war on Islam. (Unless of course you are walking through a Muslim neighbourhood at night are white and get a good kicking for being white)

    AL Beeb in portraying Muslims not as equals but as victims allows the idiots out there to blind the naïve with tales of oppression, war and holy Jihad.
    Every time you excuse an act of terror as a result of racism in the Uk you stoke the fires higher. However feeding your friends to the Monster which is radical Islam doesn’t mean they will leave you alone. It means that when they come for you (As they will) you will be all alone.

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  41. Biodegradable says:

    WTF is this supposed to mean?

    I simply can’t believe its just bad writing – don’t the BBC have editors and sub-editors?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5173078.stm

    UN Secretary General Kofi Annan both condemned Israel’s Lebanon offensive and called for the soldiers’ release.

    “Israel’s Lebanon offensive”?

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  42. Barker John says:

    The Iranians join the party!

    Tehran, Iran, Jul. 12 • Hard-line Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Wednesday that the world will soon witness the demise of Israel, the government-run news agency Fars reported.

    “In the near future we will witness the rapid collapse of the Zionist regime”, Ahmadinejad told a crowd in the north-western city of Jolfa.

    “The nations of the region will record the names of states that support the Zionist regime alongside the Zionist’s crimes”, he added.

    Ahmadinejad caused an international furore last year when he publicly declared that the Holocaust was a “myth” and said that Israel must be “wiped off the map”.

    http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7885

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  43. Socialism Is Necrotizing says:

    Lyce Ducette on BBC Four “News” speaking to a official from Mumbai

    “your infrastructure is vulnerable to attack, this is a weakness isn`t it”

    “this is not the image Mumbai wanted to project”

    and others, see, its all the fault of India, not the lunatic ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.

    Earlier on, an earnest BBC “reporter” took time out from the bar to deliver this little confection of insight and learning

    “police believe that the attacks were coordinated as they happened within twelve minutes of each other”

    Spud-Thick.

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  44. Robin says:

    Latest figures show there are more people in work and unemployment has gone up.
    The BBC showed an article last week showing Peterborough having a little trouble with the amount of migrant labour there.
    Another news item a couple of days later said that Peterborough had a worse housing crises than London.
    The BBC couldn`t make the connection.

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  45. pounce says:

    Al Beeb and how it lies for its Terrorist masters.

    What is Hezbollah?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4314423.stm

    Yet again Al Beeb defends the indefensible by painting a picture of innocence for those whose mission statement is simply to kill for Allah.

    >>”In May 2000 this aim was achieved, thanks largely to the success of the party’s military arm, the Islamic Resistance.
    In return, the movement, which represents Lebanon’s Shia Muslims – the country’s single largest community – won the respect of most Lebanese.”

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  46. pounce says:

    No Al beeb Hezbollah isn’t respected by the majority of Lebanese. It only has the support of the Shia population. The sunnis hate them, the Christians hate them. The problem is Hezbollah is armed to the teeth by Iran. Its armed wing has refused to lay down its arms and allow the army to take responsibility for the safety of Lebanon. In other words it lives by the bullet and the bomb and not the Ballot box.
    The cedar revolution which kicked out the occupying Syrians (1976 to 2005) the other year was a result of the majority of Lebanese saying enough is enough and forced the occupying Syrian forces to leave due to world pressure. The only group who wished for the Syrians to remain was Hezbollah. (Who organised a protest by 1 million for the Syrians to stay)

    I did like this comment by AL Beeb
    “while not criticising the Lebanese opposition.”
    Right , maybe Al beeb could explain the rash of terrorist bomb explosions which hit mainly Christian areas after Syria was kicked out.

    But hey.
    Who at AL Beeb CAIRs about the truth. As long as they defend their masters from the evil west. The acolytes at the BBC are more than happy to carry out their work.

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  47. pounce says:

    AL Beeb Denial isn’t a river in Muslim Eygpt.

    “The defence secretary has raised concerns about a BBC interview with a Taleban commander that the Six O’Clock and Ten O’Clock news ran on Monday evening (watch it here).

    Des Browne MP has said that broadcasting the Taleban’s claims about the nature of the British deployment could cause confusion and might put British troops at risk. BBC News obviously takes the defence secretary’s views seriously and we have had extensive debate within the newsroom about the use of video giving the Taleban’s views. However we have come to the conclusion that it is an important part of our role to reflect the claims of the Taleban as well as, of course, reporting the views of British ministers, soldiers and officers.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/

    Sorry to inform you Al Beeb But the vast majority of British Service men and women hate your guts.
    That is based on fact.

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  48. dumbcisco says:

    pounce

    Like I said earlier, the BBC either doesn’t recognise the War on Terror or – to the extent that it does – it does not have a dog in the fight. Hence all the moral equivocation, the spineless swallowing of terrorist propaganda.

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  49. mick in the uk says:

    Al beeb consorting with the enemy…traitors.

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