when it receives loans from the European Investment Bank?” asks EU Referendum. The post goes on to say that according to its own website the EIB is “an autonomous body set up to finance capital investment furthering European integration by promoting EU policies”
“How can the BBC be impartial
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http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20Obstacle%20to%20Peace/Memorial/2000/In%20Memory%20of%20the%20Victims%20of%20Palestinian%20Violence%20a
sobering reading.
and yet, the BBC cant even mention the word “terrorism”.
I just finished watching last night’s Newsnight on Israel.
The dumb blonde presenter, Emily Maitlis, was visibly miffed when she gave the last word to an American who openly laughed at her suggestion that Israel was being heavy handed. She was also thwarted by Gideon Meir in her attempts to silence him every time he gave a reply she didn’t want to hear. All in all the young lady didn’t fare too well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc2/nb/rm/video/newsnight_nb.ram
Grimer:
Interesting stuff about licence-fee avoidance. I don’t have cable or satellite, but presumably they can prove I’m watching TV if they have a detector van. So that’s item 1 covered and the rest is easy….
I’d really like not to pay these b******s anything but I’m not convinced it would be possible to get away with it….
Archduke,
I sent the following comment to the editor’s blog:
i>In light of the fact that the BBC has virtually obliterated the word ‘terrorist’ from all its media,
it’s interesting that the comments section of your ‘Have Your Say’ blog is liberally sprinkled with the word – as can be seen in topics such as the Mumbai bombing.
So do tell, why is ‘terrorist’ not on your automated list of blocked words? Could it be because ‘abusive, offensive and provocative’ comments like ‘Israel and America are terrorist states’ – also liberally sprinkled throughout your blog – would then be automatically deleted?
Have Your Say has made a good deal of progress towards transparency but you have a long way to go before you can truly say that you are unbiased in your choice of which comments to publish and which to delete.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2006/07/no_offence_1.html
Well, I suppose it could be worse. They could be calling Hamas and Hizbullah ‘freedom fighters’.
Then we’ll know they truly are lost.
“All in all the young lady didn’t fare too well.”
she is rather tasty though.
ahem…
I have just listened to a bizarre World at One. Shirley Williams thinks EuroPol should work with police forces in Lebanon to “identify” Hezbollah terrorists !!!!!!
Does she want a raid like Forest Gate ?
I mean they control Southern Lebanon – how hard is it to identify them ?
Then we had the BBC idiot asking the mayor of an Israeli town under rocket attack if he thought they were doing as much damage as Israeli shelling.
Somewhere I think these people have had their brains fried. Can anyone be so openly stupid and have no shame ?
‘freedom fighters’
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=%22freedom%20fighters%22&tab=all&recipe=all&scope=all&edition=i
Apart from Arafat (who, by the way, is still dead) they’re mostly Irish 😉
archduke:
“All in all the young lady didn’t fare too well.”
she is rather tasty though.
Now now, let’s not upset Natalie 😛
“the dumb blonde presenter, Emily Maitlis, was visibly miffed when she gave the last word to an American who openly laughed”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Maitlis
she’s a supporter of “United Jewish Israel Appeal” according to her entry in wikipedia.
maybe the questions are scripted for her?
hmmm… interesting…
http://www.bbctraining.com/courseDetails.asp?tID=5852&cat=3
Who would have guessed that James savill was “Independant” reader?
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060131/ai_n16030416
Rick | 14.07.06 – 1:28 pm,
That truly is bizarre, especially the ‘identifying the Hizbullah’ bit. Will they let anyone become a journalist?
Uh, that was me.
AntiCitizenOne | 14.07.06 – 2:16 pm,
Interesting site.
Biodegradable,
Fascinating article by George Orwell that you linked to earlier.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5180202.stm
“The Hezbollah raid into Israel, in which eight Israeli soldiers were killed and two were captured, was a stunning and provocative attack.”
Obviously in awe of Hezbollah.
“were captured to pressure Israel to release the thousands of Palestinian prisoners in its jails.”
you mean , thousands of TERRORISTS, who have been tried, convicted and sentenced for terrorist acts.
“The raid is clearly a gesture of solidarity towards the Palestinian militants in Gaza”
rather than just pure hatred of Jews.. how enlightening you are BBC.
“The group is also very popular in Lebanon and highly respected for its political activities, social services and its military record against Israel.”
which included endless waves of suicide bombings, sending brainwashed young men to their deaths.
Tsk tsk BBC – you are lying by omission again.
“All sides are for now taking hardline positions, but it’s difficult to see how the Israelis are going to get their soldiers back without some kind of ceasefire followed by negotiations that will almost certainly involve prisoner releases”
Responding militarily to a bunch of murdering Islamofascist thugs who rain endless rockets and bombs down on your population is “hardline”?
archduke:
“the dumb blonde presenter, Emily Maitlis…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emi…i/ Emily_Maitlis
she’s a supporter of “United Jewish Israel Appeal” according to her entry in wikipedia.
maybe the questions are scripted for her?
That is a surprise! No mention of it in her BBC bio. I’m sure the questions are scripted and she’s under pressure to ask them all and has nowhere near the freedom to ad-lib as Jeremy Paxman. Perhaps more than miffed she was genuinely surprised.
Bryan, yes, so much of that Orwell essay could be said today.
Yet one of the marks of antisemitism is an ability to believe stories that could not possibly be true. One could see a good example of this in the strange accident that occurred in London in 1942, when a crowd, frightened by a bomb-burst nearby, fled into the mouth of an Underground station, with the result that something over a hundred people were crushed to death. The very same day it was repeated all over London that “the Jews were responsible”. Clearly, if people will believe this kind of thing, one will not get much further by arguing with them. The only useful approach is to discover why they can swallow absurdities on one particular subject while remaining sane on others.
But now let me come back to that point I mentioned earlier — that there is widespread awareness of the prevalence of antisemitic feeling, and unwillingness to admit sharing it. Among educated people, antisemitism is held to be an unforgivable sin and in a quite different category from other kinds of racial prejudice. People will go to remarkable lengths to demonstrate that they are not antisemitic.
“i’m sure the questions are scripted and she’s under pressure to ask them all”
well, she’s gotten herself pregnant again is about to go on 12 month maternity leave. one can only imagine how her pro-israel views go down in the BBC canteen.
First plumbers now greengrocers…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5179162.stm
UN Security Council live:
http://www.un.org/webcast/index.asp
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/435068p-366373c.html
Good article
“Eleven months ago, Israel withdrew from every last inch of the Gaza Strip. They dismantled all military bases, turned over functioning greenhouses that could employ 4,000 people, expelled all 7,500 Israeli settlers at a huge financial and political cost and declared the lines that divide Israel from Gaza to be an international frontier, making Gaza the first independent Palestinian territory ever.
Everyone’s expectation was that the Palestinians, so treated, would show the world what they could achieve with freedom. Alas, they have shown all too well. Not one day of peace has followed. “
For those who have to talk with anti-Semites or anti-Israel people – a very useful PDF compiled by David Horowitz of Frontpage Magazine:
Click to access BigLies.pdf
“All sides are for now taking hardline positions, but it’s difficult to see how the Israelis are going to get their soldiers back without some kind of ceasefire followed by negotiations that will almost certainly involve prisoner releases””
UUuummmm…..
Says WHO???….Is this a wuate? Or does the BBC “KNOW” the answer??…
Is’nt that opinion??…..
EU has just announced 50 million in “humanitarian” aid to the palestinians.
that’ll go down well in Jerusalem.
Bryan
Yes, the direct link to Naughtie’s barefaced lie at 8.10am does not work. But you can find it by clicking on the link to listen to the entire prog at the right of the Today page – and then clicking forward on the time settings.
As others will not have found it – if you losten to it, could you please jot down the exact words Naughtie used in his intro about how the trouble started. Because they will be down the BBC’s memory hole tonight.
BBC BIAS AGAINST CHRISTIANITY
SUMMARY
BBC’s bias on evidence again in its treatment of Christianity which it regularly ridicules and critices (with the likes of Jerry Springer for example) while at the same time treating Islam with reverence, uncritically refusing to publish the Danish cartoons of Mohammed for example.))
Now they’ll have a three part series on examining the miracles of Jesus which will be presented by Ragi Omar. which prompted the following comment from the spokesman for the Scottish Bishops:
“I’m not suggesting for a moment that Ragi Omar is anything but a professional journalist who I am sure has been hired because of his skills as a presenter and journalist. But can you imagine the BBC asking prominent Christians like Cliff Richard or Jonathon Edwards to present an investigative and critical look at Muhammad?
“You just know it would not be allowed. That is why there is a danger the BBC is being increasingly regarded as only taking a pop at Christians. I am all for criticism, but let’s at least have a level playing field.”
ARTICLE
The BBC has been criticised by the Catholic Bishops in Scotland for its “negative” views of Christianity as it launches a new series examining the miracles of Jesus.
The new three-part series ‘The Miracles of Jesus’ will, according to the BBC’s own blurb, examine the “secret codes” of the miracles as believed by first century Christians and explore who Jesus considered himself to be.
Among the miracles explored will be the feeding of the five thousand, while actors will be used throughout to recreate familiar accounts in the Gospel of some of the miracles performed by Jesus.
But it is the Muslim presenter that is the source of the controversy over the series, journalist Ragi Omar.
Peter Kearney, spokesman for the Catholic Bishops in Scotland, said there was an increasing danger the BBC was regarded as presenting negative images only of Jesus and Christians while treating other religions “more lightly”, reports Catholic newspaper The Universal.
Mr Kearney brought out a number of controversial shows including Jerry Springer • The Opera, as well as programmes that attacked the story of Noah’s Ark or which claimed Jesus was the child born of Mary after she had been raped by a Roman soldier.
“It always seems that it’s Christianity which gets the investigative and negative treatment,” said Mr Kearney.
“I also remember a highly offensive documentary on Mother Theresa. Yet you would struggle to think of a programme giving the same treatment to Mohammed or Buddha. In fact, I don’t think there have been any.
“I’m not suggesting for a moment that Ragi Omar is anything but a professional journalist who I am sure has been hired because of his skills as a presenter and journalist. But can you imagine the BBC asking prominent Christians like Cliff Richard or Jonathon Edwards to present an investigative and critical look at Muhammad?
“You just know it would not be allowed. That is why there is a danger the BBC is being increasingly regarded as only taking a pop at Christians. I am all for criticism, but let’s at least have a level playing field.”
Link
http://www.christiantoday.com/news/society/bbc.criticised.for.treatment.of.christianity./976.htm
i thought Rageh Omar had left for Al Jazeera? or is there a constant two way traffic betweent them and the BBC?
Talking about scripting – James Naughtie’s lie in his intro at 8.10am will have been scripted. So it makes it all the worse – a serious lie about the start of the conflict was apparently approved by all the editorial staff involved on the Today prog.
“This crisis began with the capture of an Israeli soldier in Gaza.”
That woman on Newsnight last night was just another BBC ranter. Where do they find them -? she was truly embarrassing.
Of everything being said at the UN Security Council (the US rep is speaking right now) this is what the BBC have cherrypicked:
Lebanon’s envoy to the UN calls for an end Israel’s ‘barbaric aggression’. More soon.
Olmert tells Annan to get lost
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/738671.html
good.
“a serious lie about the start of the conflict was apparently approved by all the editorial staff involved on the Today prog.”
and at Channel 4. Jon Snow repeated that exact same lie at the start of C4 News last night.
Jonathan,
I wouldn’t worry about the TV detector van. They are pretty much just for show. A guy at work, used to work for the TV Licencing people. He says that they’d just drive down and sit outside the local schools at ‘Home Time’. All the mothers would see it and rush out to buy a TV Licence.
He also said that they never took anybody to court, unless they were full of attitude. Usually, people were just told to buy a Licence.
Anyway, I’ve never personally owned a TV Licence, so I won’t be on their computers. The address is obviously on their systems, but they don’t know:
1) If it is occupied
2) Who is living there
3) Is there a working TV
They catch people during the day. If you work full time and there is nobody else in the house 9 till 5, then the chances of getting a visit are very slim.
dumbcisco,
I’ll have another listen to ‘Today’.
Meanwhile, one of the BBC’s big, or biggish guns has commented on the editor’s blog on the BBC’s use (or non-use) of the T-word.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2006/07/no_offence_1.html
His post has a mauve background to differentiate it from the others.
I think he might have been stung by a comment I posted on the same thread.
It was a response to his response, but there’s a time lag.
Er… that should read:
I posted a response to his response, but there’s a time lag.
Instead of yapping on about Israel’s relatively restrained actions so far, the BBC should be looking for the big picture. Hezbollah is funded, supplied and orchestrated by Iran. Either it backs down, or Iran could well be next.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060714-121736-1687r.htm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/07/israels_existence_at_stake.html
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885995199&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
People at the BBC simply cannot understand that this is existential to Israel. They face Islamist fascists bent on genocide. They cannot back away now – and will not.
No sign of John Simpson. Away ? The situation not grave enough ? Delegate it all to Jeremy Bowen and his team of unbiased well-informed reporters ?
BBC still lying:
Israel steps up Lebanese strikes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5179862.stm
Israel is also continuing a separate offensive in the Gaza Strip. An Israeli soldier was captured there last month.
Yet another US think piece pointing at Iran and the possibility it might be attacked by Israel as the sponsor of Hezbollah :
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/07/the_war_comes_to_us.html
Doesn’t anyone at the BBC read outside the liberal media ?
Grade defends BBC’s independence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5179694.stm
“BBC chairman Michael Grade has defended the corporation’s independence at the Governors’ Annual General Meeting.
Asked if party politics affected the broadcaster, Mr Grade said: “The BBC is like China – it has been invaded many times but it has not been conquered.”
He added: “The BBC, if it’s not independent, is not worth tuppence of your licence money.”
..not that we have the choice on whether the BBC is worth the licence money, we are forced to hand the money over. I
In what way exactly is the BBC “independent”, when it is wholly reliant on the State to ensure it’s continued existence via the Royal Charter & television tax?
.
wow – no scare quotes in this headline!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5180028.stm
Israel crisis keeps oil near peak
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5178866.stm
See? Just incase you forget, the oil price rise is all Israel’s fault.
BBC – still lying
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5179862.stm
“The offensive, in which more than 60 Lebanese have died, follows Hezbollah’s capture of two Israeli soldiers.”
and the murder of 3 other soldiers , plus launching several hundred mortars and rockets at Israels northern border.
the BBC makes it sound as if Hezbollah’s opening volley was entirely non-violent.
BBC – lying by omission, again
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5179382.stm
“Dozens of Palestinians, including civilians, have died since Israel launched its assault on Gaza.”
oh , so what were the non-civillians BBC?
dumbcisco,
I gritted my teeth and listened to five minutes of the Naughtie Today propaganda piece. About half a minute in, he says:
This crisis began with the capture of an Israeli soldier in Gaza and the capture of two more in a cross-border raid from Lebanon.
So Naughtie is either only vaguely aware of what happened outside Gaza or he knows very well, but chooses disinformation. Either way, he’s a disgrace to journalism.
The difference between the BBC and historical revisionists is the BBC revises events as they happen.
That was a damn fine article over at realclearpolitics. Thanks for the link archduke.
The Beeb is beyond redemption!
There was a spot of light at the end of the BBC tunnel on World Have Your Say last night. They had a few callers on who were spouting the usual anti-Israel rubbish when one of the presenters read out a comment from a Lebanese blogger, which went something like this:
I can see the firecrackers being set off by Hizbullah supporters. Enough. Curse you, Hizbullah, to hell and back for all the destruction. It’s not Israel’s fault. It’s yours.
Strong stuff! Of course one of the callers was trying to object even as the comment was being read out, to which one of the presenters replied that they’d received many e-mails of the same nature.
Another e-mail they read out went something like this:
The people of Lebanon don’t support Hizbullah. Lebanon is beginning to awaken after 30 years of Syrian oppression.
This is the BBC?
Who’da thunk it?
Re: Olmert tells Annan to get lost
No. Translated from diplo-speak he tells him to eat sh*t and f*ck off.
And that goes for his envoy terje ruud ‘horrific beyond belief’ Larsen who as far as I can remember is considered a persona non grata in Israel.
From what I heard on Israel Army Radio the government considers the UN and particularly Terje Larsen as part of the problem. Terje was the one in charge of enforcing resolution 1559 and did nothing (surprise!) for 2 years and now he has the naglost to come and interfere when his non-action has gotten us thus far.
Good for Olmert.
Well having had a butchers at most of Al Beebs news web sites. I have to admit that the reporting is almost what I would expect from an impartial news site.
Maybe, just maybe the BBC is taking note of what people have to say about its world world coverage on this site.
It’s interesting to note that even though most of the news outfits are presenting this as Israel being the aggessor and most of the EU has condemned only Israel, in polls where people can vote whether Israel is right to act in the way it did, almost all of them are pro-Israel. This can’t all be the voting of Americans and Israelis so perhaps people are not all so gullible and actually think about what they read rather than just swallowing the bbc,cnn,guardian line as fact.
indeed max. indeed. (however Natalie gave us a collective slap for swearing recently)
good to see that Bush is backing Israel all the way:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-07-14T144249Z_01_L14853866_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-BUSH-ISRAEL.xml
“The difference between the BBC and historical revisionists is the BBC revises events as they happen.
Bryan | 14.07.06 – 5:46 pm | ”
Winston Smith is alive and well, and working at the BBC.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa
“The IDF targeted 18 sites in southern Lebanon early this morning, as Hizbullah launched more than 130 missiles into Israel over the course of 48 hours, killing two civilians and wounding more than 100.”
200,000 Israelis are now in bomb shelters, and countless others are moving out of the north – lots of Israelis are offering their homes in the centre of the country.