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JBH – you said ‘boo’ and he went away 🙂
Can you guess who the former employer of Nigel Parson[sic] mentioned in this article was?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=RGENGKI54UJLHQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2006/11/14/wiraq114.xml
‘Request Number 693: who are the 5 or 6 members/supporters of the BNP here?’
BNP supporter: Anyone who doesn’t agree with the BBC worldview.
Racist: ibid.
Neocon: Republican
Fascist: Anyone right of Lenin.
Report: Bit we made up to make our attacks on the US and Israel look OK.
John Reith:
You’re either misinformed, mistaken, or deliberately lying.
My complaint to the ITC of 13 July 2000 and my subsequent High Court action against the ITC and Granada TV of November 2001-November 2002 concerned the illegality of Granada’s admitted failure to report in its news bulletins our investigation of the “Neil Hamilton Cash for Questions” affair.
You are aware that, prior to the introduction of the 2003 Communications Act, the Broadcasting Act required commercial broadcasters, with respect to political controversies, to “do justice to a full range of significant viewpoints”.
My complaint to the ITC relied on establishing the “significance” of our investigation and Granada’s failure to report it. The latter was not in question. I only needed to prove the former.
With this in mind I submitted as an appendix to my complaint to the ITC a videotape containing 90 minutes of broadcast and non-broadcast footage featuring our investigation. This videotape became fundamental in my subsequent legal action.
Accordingly prior to the court case I successfully obtained a Court Order requiring TV sets and playback equipment to be set up in court specifically to play the tape.
At the conclusion of the first day’s hearing the judge, Mr Justice Newman, opined that the only issue to be decided the following day was whether our investigation constituted a “significant viewpoint”. My solicitor recorded the judge’s comments in his notebook. At this juncture, my Leading Counsel, David Berkley QC, spoke up and told the judge that once he had had the opportunity to view the videotape during the next day’s hearing, he would not be able to conclude otherwise.
However, despite having opined that the only issue to be decided was the significance of our investigation, and despite TV equipment having been set up in court specifically for this very purpose, the next day Justice Newman refused David Berkley’s repeated requests to play the tape in court.
Three weeks later on of 6 November 2002 Mr. Justice Newman released his judgement rejecting my application on the grounds that Granada TV was free to assess the merits of our investigation as it saw fit – despite the fact that Granada and the ITC had both admitted that they hadn’t actually examined our research at all. Moreover, despite having previously stated that the case rested on establishing its merits, Justice Newman made it clear that he did not express any opinion on the merits of our research.
For your information the Press Association reported extracts from Newman J’s judgement later that day:
“A claim that the ITV watchdog acted irrationally in clearing Granada of bias in its reporting of the Neil Hamilton cash-for-questions affair was rejected by a High Court judge today.
“The decision came as a bitter disappointment to freelance journalist Jonathan Boyd Hunt, who had complained to the Independent Television Commission about Granada’s failure to report his conclusion, after a six-month investigation, that there was no evidence to support the allegations against Mr Hamilton, former Tory MP for Tatton.
“Mr Justice Newman, who stressed he was not expressing any opinion on Mr Boyd Hunt’s work or his status and reputation as a journalist, said a broadcaster “must have the freedom to form its own view as to the merits of any investigations brought to its attention”.
“The judge, sitting in London, held that the ITC had been entitled to conclude that Granada was not in breach of the ITC Code of Practice relating to “due impartiality”, which required justice to be done to a “full range of significant views and perspectives”. ”
In fact, John Reith, every person who has examined our research has agreed with our conclusions. It is this, in fact, which explains why the BBC refuses to assess our work, and is why I expect that you will have difficulty finding a couple of BBC journalists who will be willing to earn £1,000 for charity by examining our work over a day, as per my offer of 05.11.06 at 9:03 p.m. –
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/116263356306588978/#316402
– which I concluded thus:
“I’ll raise from my friends and supporters a full £1,000 and donate it to Children in Need, or Comic Relief, or whatever charity you care to nominate John, in exchange for you and another BBC journalist of standing agreeing to partake in a demonstration of the evidence of The Guardian’s conspiracy. Now think about this. That’s a full £1,000 to charity and all you have to do is sit still with your eyes and ears open while I demonstrate the evidence to you.
“What do you say?
“Of course, for my £1,000 I’ll want to video your reaction to the evidence when I present it, but hey, according to the Beeb my evidence isn’t up to much is it? So that shouldn’t be a problem for you, should it?”
– an offer which I later emended thus:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/116263356306588978/#316531
“I wouldn’t object to someone standing in your place. All you would need to do to earn £1,000 for charity is obtain the attendance of two nationally-known senior BBC reporters to take part in a demonstration of the evidence of The Guardian’s perversion of the Downey Inquiry. Say, one from Panorama and another from the Political Unit at 4 Millbank will do nicely, thank you. If you can get Nick Robinson I’ll find another £100 from somewhere.”
– and which, following RB’s post of 07.11.06 – 5:34 pm
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/116263356306588978/#316669
– I later downgraded my stipulation thus:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/116263356306588978/#316674
“to find two BBC reporters of integrity who would be willing partake in a day-long demonstration of the evidence of The Guardian’s perversion of the Downey inquiry”
Given all the above you have no justification for belittling our research. Instead you would be better employed finding a couple of BBC journalists to assess our work and so earn a whopping £1,000 to the charity of your choice.
Re my long post above.
My apologies everyone. I should have posted it on a different thread following this post from John Reith:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/116043227974617317/#317585
Anon.
Well you could knock me down with a feather
And the Lib Dem said….
“He said that banning all such pictures could result in the public gaining a “sanitised, cleaned-up version of those realities”.
As opposed to the “truthful,unbiased account” as provided by Al Beeb.
“I always watch these things with interest too, I think one or two were SAS/SBS (ain’t to many ordinary squaddies that get M16A2 to play with), but clearly (as there role suggests) these were being used in deep recon role.”
yeah – thats what i thought too. seems to me , that , quitely possibly, the SAS is engaged in guerilla tactics against the Taliban – hit and run. which would explain the “oh god we’re doomed” reports anytime the Brits occupy a village and then leave it.
its simple – its a hit and run tactic.
J B-H
“despite TV equipment having been set up in court specifically for this very purpose, the next day Justice Newman refused David Berkley’s repeated requests to play the tape in court.
Three weeks later on of 6 November 2002 Mr. Justice Newman released his judgement rejecting my application ”
So, were Mr Justice Newman and the High Court of Justice also conspirators in the evil plot to do you down along with: the Guardian, Mohammed Fayed, David Leigh, Alan Rusbridger, Peter Preston, Dale Campbell Savours, David Hencke, Peter Whiteman QC, sundry executives of Mobil Oil, a little old lady called Iris Bond, Geoffrey Robertson QC, Sir Gordon Downey, Granada TV, the BBC and Uncle Tom Cobbley?
” Anonymous | 14.11.06 – 4:02 pm |”
thanks for the link.
if ever there was a modern day Lord “Haw Haw” it is that utter cretin…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=RGENGKI54UJLHQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2006/11/14/wiraq114.xml
“The English-language television news channel to be launched by the Arabic network al-Jazeera would be willing to show footage of British soldiers killed in Iraq, the station’s head said yesterday.”
tossers.
“Nigel Parson, al-Jazeera International’s British managing director, said he would not shield viewers from film that would bring home to them the reality of the conflict despite the distress it would cause the dead soldier’s friends and families.”
ex-BBC , now working for the enemy.
what a cretinous traitor to his nation.
The Reith amalgam has been a bit muted lately. After boosting Nick Griffin’s profile, Dr John Sentamu pointing out the organisation’s pro-Islam bias and the damning report from their own chairman at the “impartiality summit”, is it any wonder it can only resort to hypocritical BNP smears.
Archduke,
With SAS’s knowledge of Afghanistan (both against the Taleban and when the Soviets were there) I think your on the money.
There might have also been a wiff of 14 Coy (the IRA know all about those guys hiding in ditches for weeks on end),as well.
As the Army like to say:Big Boys Games and Big Boys Rules so you can bet your mortgage that these boys have also “strayed” into Pakistan as well to give the Taleban a good hiding.
Hence the rather “succesful” raids and airstrikes claimed by the Pakistan Army .
What the Beeb fails to point out is that the Dutch and Canadians are also in the shit and giving as good as they are getting.
So it looks like its going to get rather fruity for the next few months.
jr
I said on the other thread that JBH refers to:
‘As for judicial reviews…………how naïve.’
Don’t forget their failure to report the Kriss Donald case in line with their public service obligation either. Not been a good month so far for Al-Beeb.
Perhaps they should emigrate to the liberal paradise which is the Democrat-lead USA. Not that they’d stay once they found out how common everyone over there is compared with Oxbridge Beeboids…
JB-H,
Would significant in this context not imply a widely held viewpoint, i.e. irrespective of the merits of your research an independent broadcaster would not be require to reflect it unless it could be demonstrated that a significant body of opinion shared your conclusions? What was on your 90 minute tape which would have swayed the court and differed from the written material presumably submitted? Who had previously broadcast this material? On what grounds did the judge decline to view the videotape?
archduke | Homepage | 14.11.06 – 4:35 pm
Where do you get this idea that Nigel Parsons is ex-BBC?
So far I’ve found out (by e-mailing mates) that he once worked for Hong Kong radio, was a cameraman with UPITN in the early 80s, was at WTN between 85-88, went to Switzerland to work on the European Business Channel and after that was at AP.
None of the old lags I know can remember anyone by that name at BBC News in the past 25 years.
John Reith:
You say:
“So, were Mr. Justice Newman and the High Court of Justice also conspirators in the evil plot to do you down along with: the Guardian, Mohammed Fayed, David Leigh, Alan Rusbridger, Peter Preston, Dale Campbell Savours, David Hencke, Peter Whiteman QC, sundry executives of Mobil Oil, a little old lady called Iris Bond, Geoffrey Robertson QC, Sir Gordon Downey, Granada TV, the BBC and Uncle Tom Cobbley?”
I thought you’d come back with something like that.
I merely state the facts. To answer your question, no, I don’t accuse Mr. Justice Newman of being part of the conspiracy. However I do not discount the possibility that he was leant on by the Attorney General, who like everyone else in the Labour party (and the BBC and most of the British media), would be quite happy to see the history books stay as they are written.
Nor have I ever accused any Mobil Oil executive of “being part of the conspiracy”. I’ve accused Fayed’s tax adviser of 14 years, Peter Whiteman QC (who also advised Mobil and on whose word sundry Mobil executives relied for their understanding of events), of having a massive conflict of interest, and of giving testimony under oath that was disputed by Neil Hamilton and an independent witness.
Nor have I accused Sir Gordon Downey of anything other than gross incompetence and dereliction of duty. Read my letter to Downey here:
http://www.guardianlies.com/Section%202/page10.html
If you read this John Reith and conclude that Downey did a good job you’ve got an even bigger problem recognising truth than I originally thought.
As for the others on your list, namely:
“Mohammed Fayed, David Leigh, Alan Rusbridger, Peter Preston, Dale Campbell Savours, David Hencke, a little old lady called Iris Bond, Geoffrey Robertson QC
– you’ve actually missed a few off. Namely:
Fayed’s U.S. lawyer Doug Marvin; Fayed’s former PA Alison Bozek; Fayed’s doorman Philip Bromfield; The Guardian’s solicitor Geraldine Proudler; former Guardian reporter John Mullin; Guardian reporter Ed Vulliamy (insofar that he co-authored “Sleaze”); plus a few more I have yet to name.
Now then, when are you going to make a few phone calls John Reith and obtain the services of two BBC reporters for a day and thus earn £1,000 for charity?
TPO
Nice diaeresis. Such punctilio. I never seem to get it to work.
You’re probably right about judicial review.
And probably wrong about Yemen being on our side (really).
Rueful Red
“Not been a good month so far for Al-Beeb”
Oh I don’t know: the Democrats won both the House of Representatives and the Senate and the Israelis confirmed their nazi-like status by killing 18 Palestinians through shelling on incorrect coordinates.
It could have been even better, of course: Griffin could have been found guilty. On the other hand, if he had been, would not the BBC have been prima facie guilty of disseminating racist verbiage contrary to Section 5 of the We’re All Guilty Act 2006?
I wonder if John Tyndall would have been acquitted had he lived to join Griffin and Collett in the dock, as planned.
There’d have been different reactions here to the case ….either way.
Mr Tyndall really didn’t like Jews. Nor does his chum David Duke…he gives plenty of house room to this sort of stuff.
http://www.davidduke.com/?p=909
has anyone got a link to the news report you keep talking about?
I see your point Umbongo, but having the Dems win and the Israelis condemned while at the same time al-Beeb’s credibility’s melting faster than snow off a dyke must make them feel a bit like Hull City fans watching Man U do well in Europe. It’s all very well having the Dems win and the Israelis behave like Nazis, but it doesn’t address the more serious problems al-Beeb faces closer to home. Issues of impartiality, accuracy, value for money, its future.
Wow. Here we go again.
Former Tory MP arrested
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/6146846.stm
Any word of this:
Now Labour accused of hiding £12million in loans from auditors
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=416015&in_page_id=1770
The greatest political scandal since Profumo. Are the BBC (like the proverbial rash) all over the story. No of course not.
Jr, you alluded to having journalistic capabilities in the past, so tell me why aren’t the BBC pursuing this for all its worth.
You know that the Labour spin machine is briefing against John Yates at every opportunity in an effort to deflect him from the investigation and smear him.
I recall the BBC’s abysmal performance when the same spin machine tried to accuse an OAP of racism when she appeared in the national press after having been left on a hospital trolley for 48 hours. And how the BBC swallowed the story of ‘Jennifer’s ear’.
They really are vermin and, as usual, the BBC is complicit.
Tom, if you mean the one about the Archbishop of York that Instapundit mentioned, here it is. It’s also in the post below. The “admitting bias” one is here.
UPDATE: Sheesh, even though I’ve posted the whole URL the Archbishop link above keeps just going to the Telegraph front page. Either search from there or see the post below.
The BBC’s Rebuttal unit (aka John Reith) writes:
“There’d have been different reactions here to the case ….either way.”
Yes, very chipper, Reith.
But I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you. Some of us intend to go on badgering until we get answers to the two questions you seem so reluctant to answer – and which have fascinating implications about who is seeking to smear this blog and its contributors.
I just about crashed my car on the way home listening to ‘PM’ on radio 4. Apparently the BBC has just ‘learned’ that Omar Bakri is an Islamic Fundamentalist bent on killing Brits. No kidding BBC!
Ritter writes:
“I just about crashed my car on the way home listening to ‘PM’ on radio 4. Apparently the BBC has just ‘learned’ that Omar Bakri is an Islamic Fundamentalist bent on killing Brits. No kidding BBC!”
I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies. Late ones, too. That PM report suggests that at last the BBC might be starting to realise the mess we have got into.
Or maybe I’m just feeling uncharacterstically optmistic today.
Is a sea-change possible in the BBC’s
attitude to Islam? Maybe it’s not impossible.
I nearly fell off my chair, listening to PM (at just after 5p.m.)
There was an excellently courageous
report by Richard Watson about current Islamist murder and violence in Britain and globally.
There are to be follow-up reports by Richard Watson in ‘File on 4’
tonight,from 8 to 8.40pm (repeated
next Sunday at 5pm); also there’s a related feature by the reporter on
‘Newsnight’ BBC 2, 10.30pm tonight.
Excellent: don’t let this be a
one-day wonder.
What next: a book review of Robert
Spencer’s ‘The Truth about Muhammad’?
Only kidding.
Cockney:
You ask:
“Would significant in this context not imply a widely held viewpoint, i.e. irrespective of the merits of your research an independent broadcaster would not be require to reflect it unless it could be demonstrated that a significant body of opinion shared your conclusions?”
The issue of “significance” of our investigation – or anything else in the context of newsworthiness – could be established by a number of means, such as, like you say, the support of a significant body of opinion.
However back in 2001, thanks to the news blackout, there was no significant “body” of opinion, though I had collected quite a few written endorsments of our work by several people of standing – of whom some are listed here:
http://www.guardianlies.com/Pegs%20that%20stood%20up/index.html
In the absence of any large body of opinion I relied on the videotape. This contained four BBC NW news reports about two Westminster news conferences concerning our investigation, held in Oct 1997 and Oct 1998.
It also contained 30 minutes of unbroadcast ITN footage of my second Westminster press conference, supported by: the Labour peeress Baroness Turner of Camden (currently the Deputy Speaker of the House of Lords); Conservative MP Gerald Howarth (now a shadow defence minister); and N + C Hamilton, during which I outlined the central theme of The Guardian’s cover-up, and at which Gerald Howarth, Baroness Turner, Neil Hamilton and myself accused The Guardian’s senior journalists of lying and supplying forged documents to Sir Gordon Downey’s inquiry.
(Incidentally, ITN cancelled its coverage of the conference on the say so of ITN’s then Editor-in-Chief Richard Tait, on the grounds that there were other stories of “real importance” to cover on that particular day. Richard Tait is now a BBC governor.)
The tape also contained a half-hour “piece to camera” in which I discussed documentary evidence proving a few basic aspects of The Guardian’s cover-up.
……also there’s a related feature by the reporter on
‘Newsnight’ BBC 2, 10.30pm tonight.
If the BECTU strike is effective, maybe there’ll be a BBC News Twenty-Bore blackout. D’ya think anyone will notice?….. Strike starts at 10.00pm tonight. Good luck lads! Don’t cross that picket line Jeremy!
BBC braced for technicians’ strike
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,1946915,00.html
BBC management is preparing contingency plans to keep news bulletins and live coverage of the state opening of parliament on air, as technical staff begin a 24-hour strike at 10pm this evening.
BBC news production staff, who deal with live feeds as well as providing technical support, are preparing to picket the corporation’s offices and studios after voting to strike by 95% following the imposition of new work patterns which they say will see them working more shifts.
Broadcasting union Bectu said it hoped the stoppage would cause “as much disruption as possible” to news bulletins and BBC News 24, as well as tomorrow’s live coverage of the state opening of parliament, which is due to air on BBC1 between 10.30am and 12.15pm.
BBC management says it has unspecified contingency plans they will put in place in a bid to prevent major disruption.
Today’s messageboards
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2006/11/todays_messageboards.html#commentsanchor
The effect of limiting free speech on bbc boards just leads people to type in the words ‘bbc bias’ into google and….. you end up here. More readers of biased bbc community, quicker bbc licence is scrapped. Welcome former users of the Today message boards to biased bbc!
bbc 6 o clock news and sloppy reporting…
omar bakri segment – asked if “dublin airport” would be a “legitimate” target because of american troops passing through on the way to iraq.
wrong.
its shannon airport.
Thanks Natalie but I meant the army one in afghanistan. Anybody have a link?
“D’ya think anyone will notice?….. Strike starts at 10.00pm tonight. Good luck lads! Don’t cross that picket line Jeremy!”
and lo and behold an Islamist expose piece is due to go out tonight.
coincidence?
The BBC – Last with the News (well, 2 years late to be exact)
From tonight’s PM ‘news’ and on the BBC News website
Covert preaching of banned cleric
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6143632.stm
“On a recent broadcast he said the 7/7 London bombers were “in paradise.”
Recently? RECENTLY? Bakri has been saying that for years! Check it out:
February 11 2004
Thats 2004 !!!!
British Muslim kids told: Be a suicide bomber
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000870.php
“Muslim extremist Omar Bakri — speaking in London’s East End — said suicide bombers were assured a place in paradise.”
Sheesh!
“The BBC has learned…….”
How did they learn? Did some media studies student on placement at the Beeb type ‘Bakri’ into google?
Omar Bakri Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Bakri
I just can’t believe the incompetence of bbc journalists. 2 years late with the ‘news’
and a very nice welcome to you Instapundit readers.
The BBC and half a story;
Germany tries ‘Holocaust denier’
A German man deported from the US has gone on trial in the Germany city of Mannheim for alleged Holocaust denial. Germar Rudolf published a study saying the Nazis did not use gas to kill Jews at the Auschwitz concentration camp.
The prosecution says he “represented the Holocaust as invention” and used the internet to spread his documents. If found guilty, Mr Rudolf will face up to five years in prison. He has already been given an jail sentence in a similar case but fled to the US. A chemistry graduate, 42-year-old Mr Rudolf also faces charges of defaming the memory of the dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6147400.stm
And what the BBC doesn’t tell you about chemistry gradate ‘Germar Rudolf’
1) He’s a Neo Nazis.
2) He has made over €200,000 selling Nazi paraphernalia from his revisionist website.
http://vho.org/
3) In 1994, he was sentenced to 14 months in prison by the district court of Tübingen because of the “Rudolf Report.” (Holocaust denial is considered a crime in Germany.) Rudolf avoided prison by fleeing to Spain, England and finally to Chicago, USA.
4) He has published several books on Holocaust denial.
The BBC and half a story.
Tom,
This?
So John Tyndall and David Duke were/are nazis! OK – and who are they?
I noticed recently that the BBC has been broadcasting a lot of items relating to imprisonment and why it is a bad thing. Some contributors have mentioned that poor families have been prosecuted by the ‘caring’ BBC. Can anyone provide evidence as to how many single-mothers and low-earners etc have been jailed by the BBC?
(I am not and never have been a member of the BNP.)
And Jeremy Bowen thinks we can do a deal with these people?
(BTW he is all over the BBC plugging his new book)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/14/D8LCVEU01.html
TPO,
The woman who, when discussing the Hubble space telescope on the BBC breakfast bimbo slot pronounced ‘nebula’ as nehBOOlah.
I now think of her as Neboola Kaplinski and recommend that we try to get this into wider circulation, along with “Orla Goering”, “John Simpleton”, etc….
John Reith:-
Mr Tyndall really didn’t like Jews.
The BBC of course is scrupulously impartial on the Judenfrage.
John Reith,
John Reith really didn’t like Jews, according to his daughter.
(UPDATE: Yeah, I changed the wording of this post to make it more like JR’s. Blogger’s privilege.)
(I am not and never have been a member of the BNP.)
Allan@Aberdeen | 14.11.06 – 6:49 pm | #
That’s nice, Allan, but I’m not sure why you feel moved to play the Reith amalgam’s game by stating this.
Reith made the accusation of BNP membership against five or six people who post here and it’s up to Reith to back up that smear with proof.
Allan@Aberdeen,
Tyndall and Duke were/are extreme right wing nutters. The former was British (I didn’t know he’d shuffled off to whatever reward he merits until JR told me); the latter American.
Tyndall was head of the National Front, I recall. I demonstrated against him in the seventies. Black and White Unite and Fight! Black and White Unite and Fight! Ah, happy days. I’m not sorry I did, despite the fact that the ANL was a wholly owned subsidiary of the SWP. I still have a “Never Again” sticker with the famous picture from the Warsaw Ghetto on it. Sadly I don’t think such a sticker would be popular among segments of the Left now.
We shouldn’t be too hard on Reith for his accusations. Accusations of BNP membership as a debating technique deserve our sympathy. Poor boy if that’s the best he can come up with.
It looks like the BNP have a bit of support. Check out (D)HYS on immigration.
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=4681&edition=1&ttl=20061114200656&#paginator
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=4681&edition=1&ttl=20061114200656&#paginator
Have Your Say
This debate is now closed.:)
you bet!
BNP –
the child of the disinherited left.
I don’t recollect this being reported by al-beeb and there seems to be NO mention on its web site either ???
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23343_Breaking-_IAEA_Finds_Plutonium_at_Iranian_Facility#comments
I guess they’re still on lunch break or summat.
The end isn’t nigh but it might be closer than we all think — as they used to say in the US in the 50’s, time to practise “duck and cover”.
“It looks like the BNP have a bit of support. Check out (D)HYS on immigration.”
i wonder how long that’ll stay up there.
i’ve screengrabbed the “most
recommended”
that HYS is now “closed”. ha. i wonder why?