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  1. pounce says:

    The BBC its love of Hezbollah and hatred of Israel.

    Israel’s military chief resigns
    The head of Israel’s armed forces, Lt Gen Dan Halutz, has resigned amid inquiries into last summer’s conflict with Hezbollah, the military has said.
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    Israel attacked the Lebanon-based Hezbollah after the group captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid last July. But Israel failed to free the soldiers or soundly defeat Hezbollah before a ceasefire ended the fighting in August, with Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah claiming a strategic victory over Israel. The Israeli army lost 116 soldiers. Forty-three Israeli civilians were also killed by more than 4,000 Hezbollah rocket attacks. About 1,000 Lebanese were killed in the conflict, mostly civilians in Israel’s vast bombardment of the county and land invasion in the south. Gen Halutz was personally criticised for relying on aerial barrages in the early days of the war, which caused extensive damage to Lebanon’s infrastructure.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6269353.stm

    1) Err BBC, Hezbollah didn’t exactly capture those 2 IDF soldiers. They were kidnapped from Israel by Terrorists operating in Lebanon big difference.

    2) Yes the Israelis did fail to free those 2 captured soldiers. I think you find that the reason why that was , because Hezbollah needed to paint itself as the saviour of the country and the only way that could be achieved that was if Israel launched a devastating attack on Lebanon. The action that day started with an attack on Israeli soil by 3 teams operating out of Lebanon. 2 to attack and kidnap soldiers 1 team to act as a cut off for any pursuit. (they disabled a Merkava tank sent to chase the terrorists across the border) At the same time Hezbollah launched an artillery barrage across the border in which to confuse the IDF on where the action really was happening. In other words BBC this wasn’t an ad hoc mission but one that was planned to the smallest detail in which to enrage Israel to launch an attack on Lebanon so that Hezbollah could play the victim and saviour card..

    3) Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah claimed a strategic victory over Israel did he BBC? Strange how victory is proclaimed when your Terrorist infrastructure in Beruit and the border has been smashed into the ground. All your long ranged surface to surface missiles supplied by Iran have been blown up and how over 700 of your finest terrorists have gone to that great fire in the ground. Some price for victory BBC. But then the BBC refers to any radical Islamic terrorist attack as successful.

    4) So let me get this right. The BBC breaks down every Israel death by category. Yet strangely they lump every Lebanese death as civilian.(Since when does the BBC categorise terrorists as civilians?)

    5) The air campaign was launched because Hezbollah had spent the 6 years since Israel pulled out of Lebanon building bunkers, trenches, depots and killing fields in which to lure in the ground forces of the IDF and then bog them down in a place of their own making. Because the IDF knew of this and didn’t go in feet first doesn’t mean they failed it simply means that the IDF knew of these positions and used their airforce in which knock out those bunkers they knew about. The Russians did something similar at Kursk only there the Germans walked in and lost.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk
    The reasons why bridges were taken out is simply to prevent Hezbollah moving any large ground to ground missiles (Seeing as they are scud sized) and to prevent reinforcements from Syria coming across the border. (It may explain the Syrian special forces division which has been (And still is) parked on the border since last August.

    The BBC yet again playing the Jews lost and Hezbollah won. Really BBC. I think you will find that the real losers of that war were non Hezbollah people of Lebanon. But then Sadat said the same thing in 1973.(And the Arabs lost more ground in 73 than he did in 67)

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  2. pounce says:

    The BBC and Not The Nine O/Clock News;

    Kenyan police arrests top Somali Islamist leader
    Jan 15, 2007 (GARISSA, Kenya) — Kenyan police arrested a top leader in Somalia’s Islamist militant movement Monday, a Kenyan security official said.
    http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article19761

    Kenyan police ‘arrest’ top leader of Islamic militants
    GARISSA, Kenya (Agencies): Kenyan police arrested a top leader in Somalia’s Islamic militant movement on Monday, a Kenyan security official said. The leader was arrested at midmorning at a refugee camp near the Kenyan border with Somalia
    http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/world/Viewdet.asp?ID=8905&cat=a

    Official: Kenyan police arrest a top leader of Somalia’s Islamic militant movement
    GARISSA, Kenya: Kenyan police arrested a top leader in Somalia’s Islamic militant movement on Monday, a Kenyan security official said.
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/15/africa/AF-GEN-Kenya-Somalia.php

    Top Somali Islamic militant captured
    GARISA, Kenya — Kenyan police arrested a top leader in Somalia’s Islamic militant movement on Monday, a Kenyan security official said.
    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070115/somalia_militant_070115/20070115?hub=World

    It seems that people around the world were informed on Monday that a top Islamic leader was nicked . Yet the BBC hasn’t reported anything.

    It appears the BBC doesn’t want the plebs in the Uk who pay for it to actually hear the news.

    The BBC and Not The Nine O/Clock News;

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  3. Biodegradable says:

    Imagine the BBC’s reaction if Israel had actually succeeded in ‘soundly defeating’ Hezbollah?

    IMVHO one of Israel’s gravest mistakes, which it has repeated over again in previous wars, is never to have declared victory.

    If it had done so there never would have been, nor be now, any talk of “illegally occupied territories”.

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  4. archduke says:

    who needs the bbc when you have joost?

    http://www.joost.com/
    (formerly the venice project)

    this is going to kick ass.

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  5. archduke says:

    biod -> israel beat hez into a bloody pulp in that war. trouble is , they lost the media war -and also olmert didnt allow their military to push for a full on obliteration of hez.

    so , it ended in statemate, with the Un and msm breathing down their neck.

    sad thing is, you know and i know , that the Hez war part 2 will have to fought , again, with more loss of life.

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  6. Biodegradable says:

    archduke- I was thinking more of previous wars where the outcome was clearer for all to see. If, once Israel had kicked Egypt out of Gaza, it had said, “you attacked us, we defended ourselves and kicked your arse, this land is now our land”, things would be different. The same goes for kicking Jordan out of Jerusalem and Syria off the Golan Heights.

    Israel has always been too generous as a victor and until her enemies get a thorough kicking and are humiliated, like Japan and Germany at the end of WW2, she will have to continue to fight to survive.

    Israel’s enemies can afford to lose over and over again, it only serves, thanks to the BBC and their other friends, to earn them sympathy.

    Israel only has to lose once and it no longer exists. On that basis of course Hezbollah did not ‘win’ the latest round and Israel did not lose, but it certanily must WIN the next round.

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  7. archduke says:

    last nights “24” – nuke episode – on youtube

    ok taped by someone by pointing a camera at the telly, but its good enough.

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  8. Tim says:

    Baghdad update:

    Very bloody day yesterday, dozens killed at Baghdad Univeristy by murdering Al Quada bastards.

    There is a girls school close to us here and daily, well dressed, smiling and giggling school girls with loose head scarfs, smart uniforms and trendy footware head there clutching their books and chatting like teenage girls anywhere in the world.

    We stay well clear of the school area itself, as the same scumbags are targeting this place and sadly it’s only a matter of time before we might be clearing their bodyparts off our vehicles one morning!

    Second point: A mortar round lounded in close vicinty to our villa’s yesterday (not necessarily targetted at us) My friend an ex Brit SF mate, picked up a piece of the shrapnel – the mortar shrapnel was Iranian and still it’s green paint on it (new)

    Unlike other parts of the world where the BBC is quick to show locals holding what they say are US missile parts in front of the usual wedding that is being held in the local baby milk factory, the Beeb are not rushing to point out that a lot of the ordinance and technoligy doing all the killing over here is Iranian.

    The BBC showing you only what we want to, that’s what we do…

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  9. Market Participant says:

    @pounce/Bio:

    I hope you all know about Victor Davis Hanson? I think you’ll find him quite refreshing.

    Professor of Classics at CSU Fresno with a speciality in military history. I herd him live at UC Santa Cruz once.

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  10. InfantryMan says:

    Re your observations about the summer war against the Hezbollah: you are mostly right. I think this site should make an official complaint to the bbc about its sloppy and possibly biased reporting. I know what I’m talking about. I was there!

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  11. InfantryMan says:

    sorry, the above was addressed to Pounce.

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  12. Oscar says:

    Pounce et al – very interesting debate on Lebanon war (wish it could be heard on Question Time.) Analysis from Jerusalem Post on fallout from the war here:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467749510&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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  13. Oscar says:

    Pounce et al – very interesting debate on Lebanon war(wish it could be heard on Question Time). Here’s an article on the fallout from the war from the Jerusalem Post:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467749510&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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  14. Oscar says:

    Pounce et al – very interesting debate on Lebanon war(wish it could be heard on Question Time). Here’s an article on the fallout from the Jerusalem Post:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat…icle% 2FShowFull

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  15. Abandon ship! says:

    Three Oscars – even Dame Helen Mirren can’t beat that.

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  16. TPO says:

    ‘Three Oscars ‘
    Brought a smile to my face.

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  17. TheCuckoo says:

    O/T

    You couldn’t make this up. Some blokes dog has died, so let’s have a news story about it…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/6268025.stm

    What next?

    HYS: Chalky the Jack Russell – Your tributes.

    What a load of cobblers.

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  18. TPO says:

    Someone else’s take on ‘global warming’

    High levels of greenhouse gases and the reappearance of the cyclical warming trend El Nino make it likely 2007 will go down as the world’s hottest year ever recorded. That’s what British researchers were saying in the first week of the year.

    By week two, weather forecasters in Manitoba were predicting the coldest temperatures Manitobans had seen in two years. Schools were ordered shut in the southern part of the province as the temperature plunged to •36 C in Winnipeg. With the wind chill, it was more like •48.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/forcesofnature/frost-bite.html

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  19. Bryan says:

    Abandon ship!

    Thanks for the chuckle.

    TPO,

    Read a bit of the coppersblog. Put it in favourites. Great stuff, thanks.

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  20. TPO says:

    bbc headline:

    Missing suspect a threat – Tories
    ’The man, a British national, was the third to disappear while under a control order’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6269673.stm

    This is an extremely misleading piece of bbc doublespeak. They seek to concentrate the reader on the arguments of the three main political parties whilst steering the reader away from what should have been reported. See below.

    Extremist’s escape into mosque raises heat on Reid

    ’ The British Muslim has since been able to flee the country to Pakistan, where he is believed to be undergoing Jihadi training at a terror camp’.

    ‘Police did not discover he had been hiding in the mosque until after he fled the country. The hugely embarrassing revelation will raise important questions about how terror suspects who want to evade the authorities can abuse the sensitivity surrounding the Islamic community in Britain.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=429292&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&ct=5&expand=true#StartComments

    I’m getting a little fed up with these people being described as ‘British Muslims’ when the reality is that they are Pakistani Muslims who, by one means or another, have got hold of a British passport.

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  21. TPO says:

    Absolutely sod all to do with bbc bias.

    There are times (all too few) when you can take pride in the fact that we still produce young men who are capable of such deeds.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=KUCZF2B0XDEY5QFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/01/17/wheroes17.xml

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  22. Umbongo says:

    On “Today” this morning the religious slot is given to “Ekklesia” introduced as a “think tank” with, impliedly, no agenda. We get an undisguised anti-American diatribe and illustrations of “how all the Muslims in Iraq (Sunni and Shia) are so tolerant of each other! What a wonderful example for all us heathens out here”. Apparently, for instance, Sunnis couldn’t wait to render aid to Shias (or the other way round) after the US onslaught on Falluja (no! really!). Ekklesia, if you recall, campaigns for the wearing of a white poppy on Remembrance Day.

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  23. will says:

    Well, it is on the BBC website, if not on air & consequently it remains below the radar

    The former head of the UN oil-for-food programme for Iraq, Benon Sevan, has been charged with bribery and conspiracy to commit fraud by the US.
    Mr Sevan allegedly accepted $160,000 (£81,500) from Baghdad to illegally influence the $64bn programme.

    Is he bothered?

    In a statement issued via his lawyer, Mr Sevan said the charges were trivial

    “The United States attorney’s office has decided to use Mr Sevan as a scapegoat and a distraction from the United States’ own massive failures and mismanagement in Iraq,”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6268763.stm

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  24. 123 says:

    This blog and others have criticised the BBC’s rose-tinted reporting of the Islamic Courts Union in Somalia. This week’s Private Eye “From Our Own Correspondent” column from Mogadishu appears to bear out those criticisms:

    “Our western friends seem surprised by the rapid collapse of the ICU… Perhaps you believed your own reports about the ‘powerful’ ICU and the ‘weak and feeble’ TFG (Transitional Federal Government)… Yet the defeat of the ICU wasn’t a surprise to us.”

    The BBC’s reports from Somalia gave the impression that the ICU was a popular and powerful force. Private Eye’s columnist paints a very different picture.

    Here’s a scan from the article –

    http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=30u4oaq

    On an unrelated point – I see that the left-wing luvvie blog Huffington Post has a new managing editor.

    NEW YORK The Huffington Post has announced that it has hired BBC veteran Elinor Shields to act as managing editor, overseeing all of the site’s daily operations, including original reporting. Shields was a senior journalist for the BBC’s Web site.

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/departments/online/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003531700

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  25. TheCuckoo says:

    Can you guess, by reading the following article, what the religious inclinations of this ‘militant’ are?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6269701.stm

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  26. TPO says:

    The bbc puffs up Keith Vaz who is trying to stir up trouble about the dumbest TV trash ever.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6269953.stm
    Tony Blair told the House of Commons that he could not comment on the Channel 4 reality show because he had not seen it.
    Mr Blair was responding to a question from Keith Vaz MP, who said “broadcasters need to take great care before they publish any such prejudices to millions of people throughout the country”.

    This would be disgraced former party of vermin Minister for Europe in the FCO, Nigel Keith Anthony Standish Vaz, until his doings were unmasked.

    He was implicated in scandal involving donations he received from Lakshmi Mittal’s wife and two others, and citizenship applications for the Hinduja brothers and was forced to resign. Keith Vaz was also a director of the General Mediterranean Holdings (GenMed) owned by Anglo-Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi.

    GenMed is one of the largest single shareholders of the French bank BNP Paribas, through which the Oil-for-Food money transited through an escrow account.

    GenMed and Nadhmi Auchi were involved in the Elf scandal. The sale of Spanish company Ertoil to Elf oil company has formed a substantial part a court case. Auchi has been charged on the extradition warrant with three charges of conspiracy to defraud involving the takeover of Ertoil by General Mediterranean Holdings (GMH) and its subsequent sale to Elf between December 1990 and August 1994.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/02/04/nvaz04.xml

    My goodness, the stench is appalling and if it were called Enron rather than GenMed, then which British so called ‘news’ organisation would be crawling all over the story like a barrel full of maggots.

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  27. TPO says:

    The bbc even has a ridiculous HYS about the dumbest TV trash ever.

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5271&&&edition=1&ttl=20070117154831

    Fortunately the vast majority of comments on it are similar to this:
    Why on earth is so much media attention given to this utter rubbish by a public service broadcaster? Why don’t people get a life rather than watching and commenting on it? What will their epitaphs be? “I wish I’d spent more time watching mindless so-called reality TV shows.” A plague on all their houses!
    JOHN, Chiswick

    In the week that Channel 4 produced two such dissimilar programmes, (one being Dispatches, the best bit of TV investigative journalism for over eighteen months that knocks the bbc Panorama for six, and the other just moronic garbage) why are organisations like the bbc so obsessed with the rat skulking in the corner and ignoring the bloody big elephant occupying the rest of the room.

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  28. Foxgoose says:

    Fascinating & sinister development on the Dispatches programme.

    Although it barely got a mention in the mainstream UK media, a Google news search did pick up a mention in a Times article yesterday, mainly about UAF picketing the BNP ballerina:

    http://news.google.co.uk/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&q=channel%204%20mosque

    Bizarrely, on clicking the link to read the whole article – the sentence referring to the Dispatches prog has been removed.

    Somebody please check it out and tell me I’m not sliding into paranoid delusion here.

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  29. 123 says:

    Foxgoose – the reference to Dispatches picked up by Google News comes from the comments section.

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  30. Oscar says:

    “Three Oscars” – Yeah Dame Helen eat your heart out. (nice one Abandon Ship). Sadly it was just my computer playing up … sorry….

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  31. Mephisto says:

    Foxgoose

    sorry mate, you ARE sliding into paranoid delusion.

    It’s still there at comment number six.

    But you do have to click the ‘read all comments’ link in the HYS box.

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  32. nbc says:

    Spinning the Doomsday Clock.

    The BBC says it’s climate change:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6270871.stm

    The Telegraph is rather more realistic:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/17/nclock117.xml

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  33. BaggieJonathan says:

    After a whole headline article devoted to Al Beeb outrage at the Somali government suspending certain broadcasters implying it was a long terms ban they have their suspensions lifted the very next day.
    Does this receive equal headlining? No, it is the very last line of an article about the removal from office of the parliaments speaker.

    As with the whole series of reports of Al Beeb on Somalia the reporting has been dispicable.

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  34. BaggieJonathan says:

    After a whole headline article devoted to Al Beeb outrage at the Somali government suspending certain broadcasters implying it was a long terms ban they have their suspensions lifted the very next day.

    Does this receive equal headlining? No, it is the very last line of an article about the removal from office of the parliaments speaker.

    As with the whole series of reports of Al Beeb on Somalia the reporting has been despicable.

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  35. Alan says:

    The Beeb’s Gavin Esler will ensure an exciting and unbiased debate:

    ‘ Conference: A World Civilisation or a Clash of Civilisations’ (London)
    Saturday, 20 January, 10am -8pm
    “Gavin Esler, BBC Newsnight presenter, will chair the main debate between Ken Livingstone, Mayor of London, and Daniel Pipes, Director of Middle East Forum, an American think-tank that advises US policymakers on the Middle East, on these contrasting approaches and their implications for Londoners. Pipes argues that ‘there is not so much a clash of civilisations as there is one of civilisations vs. barbarism.'”
    For (free) conference online registration and further details, see: http://www.london.gov.uk

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  36. john says:

    I see a certain 59 year old woman and former head of BBC Youth and Entertainment Features at the BBC, and favourite of BBC Question Time was arrested in connection with an alleged racially-aggravated public order offence.
    Janet Street-Porter, was accused of yelling racist abuse at a black neighbour, telling her to ‘f*** off back to your own country’. Neighbours claimed she ‘screamed and shouted’ abuse at Julie Mbemba after the Congolese mother of three parked outside Street-Porter’s £2 million Clerkenwell home. A friend of Ms Mbemba… James West, said:
    “Janet is a nightmare to live next door to. She is always effing and blinding. I was not surprised by this outburst. “Julie told us what happened. She said Janet called her a ‘f***ing black bitch’ and a ‘black African who should f*** off back to your own country’.”
    Michael Wakelin (Head of Religion & Ethics) at the BBC, who produced and directed BBC 2s Cathedral Calls with Janet Street Porter and was Co-Series Producer of the BBC One series Son of God, was unavailable for comment.
    BBC Radio 4s ‘PM’ news at 5 has just told us she has “strenuously denied” the charges of racial abuse. Well she is ex BBC!! I’m sure we will see her soon back on BBC 1s Question Time again, when was, oh yes 27 May 2004 when she defended Abu Hamza! Some of the letters of protest to the BBC are still online:

    Please don’t have that awful Street-Porter woman on again. She was so rude to everybody (except the Lib Dem), even laughing in contempt at the audience. We need informed people on the panel, who apart from her were excellent, as opposed to people who think Abu Hamza should be treated with care and respect!
    Jon Harrison, York

    Janet Street Porter’s meanderings about rights Hamza was due etc etc was the best advertisement for the far right and the BNP I have ever heard in my live.
    Nicholas Williams BSc.Econs, London, UK
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/3755597.stm

    Former head of BBC Youth….BBC this is what we do.

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  37. 123 says:

    The British media and political classes are ignoring the Dispatches documentary but it’s currently the number 4 most viewed video at You Tube with over 94,000 hits.

    Monday’s Dispatches demonstrated the growth in this country of a supremacist ideology which demands the overthrow of democracy and calls for the death of non-believers regarded as subhuman, and yet the number one story in the UK today concerns events from the reality TV show which was broadcast immediately afterwards.

    Sickening.

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  38. tom atkins says:

    BBC1 6 o’clock news. Its great that the manufactured BB race row has pushed the details of the alleged suicide bombers trial down the news agenda isn’t it?
    The “victim” doesn’t even know she’s a victim for goodness sake.
    But a carefully orchastrated e-mail campaign encouraging 15,000? complaints to OFCOM has magically boosted this one up the news agenda.
    Whilst the frightening evidence of the trial can be put on the back burner.

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  39. will says:

    Main BBC1 News at 6pm leads with the racist outrage on C4 CBB.

    The BBC usually enjoy a segue. What better next than a report on Ms Street Porter’s alleged outburst?

    No. The story about the Beeboid din’t even make it into the broadcast.

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  40. john says:

    TPO:
    SO Keith Vaz is connected with the BNP!

    They wheeled out Peter Hain on BBC Radio 4s PM show who condemned the “Grubby racist antics” that are going on in the House (sic)

    Think of all those sad people switching on C4 this evening to discover the truth! Asking somebody I know who watches it, this person was unaware of any racism- apart from eating with hands episode. The images of the hysterical burning mobs in India remind one of the reaction to the Mo cartoons.

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  41. Nemesis says:

    In regards to the furore over the Big Brother garbage, I’m staggered as to the level of bias of not just al BBC but ALL of our news stations. Especially taking into account the almost simultaneous issues raised by the dispatches documentary.

    I wrote an article about the whole situation on my own site entitled, “Racism and our biased media’s role in it” at http://www.nemsplace.co.uk/comment.php?comment.news.572

    Yes, I know it’s a piece of blatant self promotion but it IS a valid article but if it’s against the rules of this blog, please delete this post. 🙂

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  42. Foxgoose says:

    OK Thanks 113/Mephisto; I am getting paranoid – I didn’t realise Google picked up reader comments.

    Paranoia not helped however by this confirming that NOT ONE mainstream news source covered the Dispatches program – which in my view was a cultural watershed for this country.

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  43. Foxgoose says:

    Sorry – meant 123/Mephisto

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  44. Alan says:

    On Al Beeb’s Radio 4 ‘PM’ programme
    today there was a featured report of about 5 minutes on Lebanon.

    The theme of the programme was the high level and rate of emigration of
    Lebanese, especially of skilled professionals.

    The report did not mention Hezbollah once. There was not a single mention of the historical campaign by Islamists against Christians.

    Al Beeb ‘PM’: you need to read Brigitte Gabriel’s book, ‘Because They Hate’. This is from her website:
    ” I was born in Lebanon and raised as a Christian. When the Lebanese Civil War broke out, our family, and our Maronite community came under vicious attack by Islamic extremists. They promised to destroy us, and as you know from the recent war in Lebanon, the country is now nearly Islamic. I was nearly killed by a mortar. Our home was destroyed. We lived in a bomb shelter for seven years. Most of my childhood friends were killed. That’s how I know.”
    http://www.americancongressfortruth.com

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  45. mick in the uk says:

    john:
    “…unaware of any racism- apart from eating with hands episode.”

    How is that racist?

    People in the Indian sub-continent and the UK do eat Asian food with their bare fingers, just as we eat burgers/sandwiches etc.

    From the little i’ve seen, via Google, it seems there is a bunch of chavs in there with some celebs…how would they be expected to behave anyway?

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  46. tom atkins says:

    This actress will see her career boosted by the publicity that UK BB is being given in India, where brits are seen as the bad guys.

    So both the BBC and Hain feel its OK get invited onto Today to comment even though he, er, hasn’t actually watched any of BB?

    -Perhaps I should comment on what he does even though I didn’t actually see him running through Woolworths.

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  47. will says:

    Foxgoose “NOT ONE mainstream news source covered the Dispatches program”

    Today’s Sun editorial

    THE SUN today reveals our Secret Services have won hundreds of millions of pounds more for the fight against terror.

    And not a minute too soon, judging by the C4 documentary on rabble-rousing Muslim fanatics.

    Everyone who watched the Dispatches episode will have been horrified by the implications for British security.

    Worshippers at a major Birmingham mosque were urged to slaughter all “kuffars” – non-Muslims.

    Clerics demanded the overthrow of Westminster democracy, ranted against Jews and called for death to homosexuals.

    Most chilling of all was that children with “soft hearts” should be groomed as suicide bombers.

    Every blood-curdling rant was captured on camera by an undercover reporter.

    The clerics claim they were quoted out of context.

    But the context was all too vivid. They think they are winning.

    The 2005 London Tube bombings were far from the last.

    Mosques across Britain are now recruiting grounds for extremists bent on destroying our way of life.

    Tracking them is costly • and vital.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,31-2007020592,00.html

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  48. Jonathan (Cambridge) says:

    Will:

    “Today’s Sun editorial…”

    Yes but this paper is totally ignored by the middle class lefty elite who think they know what’s best for everyone. I’d be surprised if the Mail didn’t have something on it as well.

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  49. Anonymous says:

    Big Brother racism row:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6271139.stm

    “Surely such racist slurs have no place in civilised society?” Anand Sharma asked.

    “India has throughout firmly rejected all forms of discrimination and racism.”

    Er, the caste system Anand?

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  50. Rob says:

    Anonymous:

    Yeah, and the occasional slaughter of thousands of civilians of a certain religion in nationwide riots. But apart from that, and the caste system, India has firmly rejected all forms of discrimination. Reporting this tripe without qualification is a deriliction of duty for someone who would allege they are a journalist.

    The faux hysteria over Big Brother has now been headline news on the BBC site for two days; in contrast, this story is tucked away in the ‘regional’ section:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6271305.stm

    Yep, two civilians, one of them a child, being shot on a street in daylight is nowhere near as important as some alleged abuse from some chavs against an Indian.

    BBC priorities in a nutshell!

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