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“Languages and religion merely divide and create friction.”
TAM2
Or in your case – create fiction.
President Bush issued a passover greeting yesterday
Of course, he has to satisfy that “Jewish Lobby” 😉
(I hope my sarcasm is showing)
apparently the cheapest place to buy Ecstasy last year was – Portsmouth.
1 quid a tab apparently.
That’ll be why there isn’t a drugs problem in Portsmouth!
You want drugs?
No problem.
Maybe we should take archduke’s advice and not feed the troll – just let him/her/it punctuate the thread with the occasional copy ‘n paste rant. We could look at it as tarnish on silver. Not serious, just polish it up and move on.
Regarding the troll:
Our obligation is to speak truth to power, not to the powerless.
Preaching to them is like teaching a pig to sing:
You wear yourself out and annoy the pig.
” Biodegradable | 03.04.07 – 4:12 pm |”
There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, whom they considered an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 war, and I was one of his troops. – Yasser Arafat, quoted in Al Sharq al Awsat newspaper, London, 2002.
more:
“Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel’s Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state.
In their book the researchers concluded that, “the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
ah found it. from sept 2005
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article310568.ece
“The survey also found that the cost of the cheapest ecstasy in the UK has halved in the past year alone. Researchers found a rock-bottom price for ecstasy of 50p in Portsmouth this year compared with last year’s cheapest deal of £1 in Birmingham.”
and
“The price of heroin has also halved in Portsmouth from £90 to £40 per gram.”
oops i fed the troll. wont do it again.
oops i fed the troll. wont do it again.
archduke | 03.04.07 – 4:39 pm
Tempting, isn’t it?!
archduke | 03.04.07 – 4:34 pm
Just notorious Jewish spin from those notorious Jews. Don’t believe a world of it.
By the way, Arafat’s own biographer confirms that he was born in Cairo – however the French death certificate shows him as beeing born in Jerusalem.
One wonders whether that has something to do with the fact that Arafat’s widow lives in Paris and spends a fortune there.
It’s too easy to re-write history, specially where the French are involved.
“The price of heroin has also halved in Portsmouth from £90 to £40 per gram.”
archduke | 03.04.07 – 4:38 pm
Told you, no drugs problem there.
Gotta go for a while, catchya laters, beeb-haters 😉
Interesting comment from Giles Wilson, responsible for The Editors blog on Martin Belam’s blog:
http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/03/my_biased_view_of_the_biased_b_4.php
” Bryan | 03.04.07 – 4:45 pm ”
“I work at the BBC, and am responsible for the editors’ blog. Martin, thanks for the suggestions in this post about being clearer about our moderation processes. We’ll have a look at doing that. As for the details of this case, it was unfortunately a case of human error, compounded by our blog complaints system being crippled by spam. We took the problem very seriously, and so immediately altered our procedure so that complaints about blog comments now go directly into the BBC Complaints system. This means if ever there is a similar problem we should be able to deal with it much more quickly.
Posted by: Giles Wilson , March 22, 2007″
huh? but the comment was number 44 in a blog post!!!!!!! not exactly lost amongst thousands of comments was it?
it shouldnt have had to go through a “complaints” procedure.
http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/03/my_biased_view_of_the_biased_b_4.php
which says to me that they have a “blog and forget” loftier-than-thou policy and dont even bother reading the comments afterwards.
and it gets worse:
“Comments are moderated, and will not appear on this weblog until the author has approved them.”
so comment 44 WAS approved by someone.
note that Mr Wilson says that the blog *COMPLAINTS* system was crippled. which is entirely different to comment submissions.
incredible.
“Languages and religion merely divide and create friction. ”
That makes a filthy one-world socialist. And probably a JEWMANJI.
‘But when it became clear to the Nazis that mass expulsion to Israel was not possible…the Wannasee conference was held, chaired by Adolf Eichmann.’
It was Reinhard Heydrich that chaired the Wannsee Conference. Eichmann took the minutes and laid on the tea and biccies.
Passover Watch
nothing in BBC search
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?tab=ns&q=passover&recipe=all&scope=all&edition=d
via google:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=passover+site%3Anews.bbc.co.uk&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
hmm nothing there either. most of the stories are from 2005 or earlier.
Nancy Pelosi Sucking up to the Axis of Evil:
“DAMASCUS, Syria – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi arrived in Syria on Tuesday, the highest-ranking American politician to visit the country since relations began to deteriorate four years ago.President Bush criticized the trip, saying it sends mixed signals to President Bashar Assad.
“A lot of people have gone to see President Assad….and yet we haven’t seen action. He hasn’t responded,” Bush told reporters at a Rose Garden news conference.
He said Assad had not reined in violent elements of militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah as requested by the international community and had acted to destabilize the democratically elected government of Lebanon.
“Sending delegations doesn’t work. It’s simply been counterproductive,” Bush said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070403/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_pelosi;_ylt=AjZ_Lsqk7hHroI_2FxILjF1vaA8F
archduke’s interesting versions of history don’t negate his basic argument.
“Greencoat | 03.04.07 – 5:05 pm”
correct. my mistake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich
archduke | 03.04.07 – 4:59 pm,
Being only partially computer literate, I don’t fully understand what he is on about, especially the “spam” part.
I suppose it could be that people keep on hitting the “alert a moderator” tab on HYS or overload the system in other ways when their complaints are ignored. Funny, HYS used to have a much more user-friendly complaints form whereby you could post your complaint in your own words. Now you can only tick one of a number of options.
You get something a bit more user-friendly when you click on complain about this post on The Editors blog:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_3950000/newsid_3955200/3955223.stm
I think this has been the case for quite some time. Which makes me think that Mr. Wilson was not being entirely straight in his comment on Mr. Belam’s blog.
…….. You only have to remember Yassir Arafat’s uncle, the Mufti of Jerusalem who was a regular hob knobber with Hitler and who, many think, actually suggested the ‘Final Solution’ to the Nazis…….
TPO | 02.04.07 – 9:43 am |
Whichever one of those cranks above mentioned the Mufti of Jerusalem……
Hilarious. In my time I’ve been called Pig, fascist (both for obvious reasons) murderer, Maggie’s boot boy and even infidel and English scum.
Happy to add crank to the list.
“In their book the researchers concluded that, “the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem”.”
Arhduke 03.04.07 – 4.34pm
And unfortunately it was the British (led by the dhimmi Jew, Sir Herbert Samuel) that got him into power and invented the title “Grand Mufti” – then as now – they always tried to appease the worst elements of Islam. From Jillian Becker’s really excellent book on the PLO:
“What he [Haj Amin] was relying on was the support of highly influential British friends in the Administration, including Sir Herbert’s political adviser. Their own anti-Zionism, and probably anti-Semitism too, made them urge Sir Herbert to apoint Haj Amin, despite his failure in the election, his criminal record and his lack of sufficient qualification. … Finally Haj Amin owed his appointment to his extreme hostility towards the Jews, which should have been the best reason for keeping him out. … So Sir Herbert Samuel made him the ‘Grand Mufti’. It was the decision of a man honourable in himself and faithful to a tradition of honour, who would never betray public trust and was not sufficiently suspicious of others to believe that they might do so. But no sooner was Haj Amin appointed, than he took advantage of his position covertly to unleash more violence against the Jews. Riots broke out in Jaffa, Hadera and Tulkarm, organised and led by a terrorist group called the Black Hand. Its members swore sacred oaths to die for Haj Amin.
Plus ca change.
A campaign against the BBC’s unfairness and ageism towards MOIRA STUART, is reported in ‘Evening Standard’ (3 Apr.):
” Broadcasters Unite to save Moira from the BBC’s Axe”
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk (go to ‘News’).
And I’ll have to add muppet.
Further to my earlier comment.
The BBC can’t get enough of Patrick Cockburn’s claims. The man himself has just been interviewed by Eddie Mair on PM and was invited to explain how he connected the attempted abduction of the two senior Iranian intelligence men to the taking of the British hostages. Cockburn replied that the Iranians themselves today linked the current crisis to the abduction of five Iranians in Irbil. 1. Not the question he was asked. 2. Not the claims he has been making 3. The Iranians say so – oh, it must true then. Needless to say Mair didn’t challenge any of this vicarious representation of the BBC’s editorial position.
” Alan | 03.04.07 – 5:52 pm”
Moira is too old and isnt down with da kidz ya know.
Her perfect diction and Queen’s English tones goes against the whole dumbing down process doing on.
innit wikkid?
“Quebec right on Muslim”
A series of events over the past few years have shown Quebec to be proud of its liberalism, proud of Western civilization and proud of itself.
The latest involves the Quebec government giving a Muslim woman who wants to be a prison guard a choice:
She could either remove her hijab or she could train to be a prison guard. But she could not do both. The woman chose the hjiab.
Predictably, Muslim advocacy groups have been crying racism. “It is an ultimatum, remove the hijab or you’re out of here,” said the head of the Muslim Council of Britain. “That’s not a security issue, this is much more a bigoted issue.”
The government stuck to its guns.
“As a security measure, the hijab cannot be accepted as an element of the uniform to execute the functions of a correctional officer,” a department spokesman said.
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Columnists/Smith_Jordan_Michael/2007/04/02/3896036.html
Anonanon – Cockburn seems to be a willing dupe (or worse) of Iranian counter intelligence. Eagerly lapped up the IBC.
Re TAM2
Troll or not I can’t let some of that past…
“This blog is no more than half a dozen obsessed dozen cranks.”
OBVIOUSLY CANT COUNT AND GIVES NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ‘CRANKS’
“Yes, and very few of them brush their teeth.”
MY PRE SCHOOL RELATIVES CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT – CHRONIC
“the Mufti of Jerusalem, al-Hajj Amin al-Husayni, yes this is notorious Jewish spin”
NO IT ISNT, BUT SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY ANSWERED FOR ME
“The Zionist links with the fascists which included unqualified support”
YOU NEED TO GET A DICTIONARY AND LOOK UP THE MEANING OF THE WORD ‘UNQUALIFIED’
“The Zionists wilfully let pass any opportunity to oppose the fascists in the slightest”
YOU WOULD LAUGH IF THAT STATEMENT WERENT SO PATHETIC
“It is widely thought that a boycott in America against German goods and businesses would have ended Hitler’s reign by the middle of the 1930s”
THOUGHT BY WHO, YOU NEED A DICTIONARY AGAIN TO LOOK UP ‘WIDELY’
“opposed by the original inhabitants of Palestine”
DO YOU MEAN THE JEWS OR THE CANAANITES? YOU CLEARLY CANT MEAN THE PALESTINIANS AS THEY WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS
“goal of achieving a Jewish State”
WHICH WAS ALREADY A GOAL FROM THE BALFOUR DECLARATION FROM OVER 20 YEARS PREVIOUS, IT WAS HARDLY ONLY A ZIONIST VIEW
“immigration certificates”
BRITAIN SEVERELY RESTRICTED IMMIGRATION INTO THE HOLY LAND RIGHT UP TO THE END OF ITS MANDATE IN 1948 EVEN TURNING AWAY HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS AND SENDING THEM TO DETENTION CAMPS IN PLACES LIKE CYPRUS AND EVEN IN SOME CASES GERMANY!
“Languages and religion merely divide and create friction”
WHICH SINGLE LANGUAGE DOES THE FUHRER INTEND TO IMPOSE UPON THE WORLD?
AS FOR RELIGION IT CAN BE A FORCE FOR GOOD OR ILL. ASK YOUR PALESTINIAN FRIENDS I THINK YOU WILL FIND THEM ALL IN FAVOUR OF IT.
“I have failed to address these comments to the particular posters concerned as I suspect many of them are probably just the same persons morphing freely as the case may suit.”
EVEN A CURSORY GLANCE WILL SHOW YOU THAT BY WRITING STYLE, CONTENT AND THE FACT THAT MANY PUT LINKS TO THEIR HOMEPAGE THAT THIS IS A MONSTROUS CALUMNY WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE. IN FACT THE ONLY EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF IS THE PRO BBC MOONBAT WHO POSTS EVERY SO OFTEN WITH A DIFFERENT NAME EACH TIME BUT FROM THE SAME HOMEPAGE
Unless your standard dramatically improves this is the last time I will be bothered to comment upon your postings.
Anonanon – Cockburn seems to be a willing dupe (or worse) of Iranian counter intelligence. Eagerly lapped up the IBC.
Oscar | 03.04.07 – 5:59 pm
I bet he’s on Channel 4 News at 7. And perhaps even Newsnight.
To the troll.
If you wish to bitch about the Jews then do so at your local Gay nazis club house. Aka Blue oyster bar.
If you wish to bitch about the BBC, please stay.
P.S
How’s your wife with my kids?
As counter to UK establishment (and al Beeb) apologetics re-slavery, they should try getting Islamic states to apologise for slavery. As a first step in Al Beeb’s education on Islam and slavery, it could read the long, three-part article (referenced below):
“Should the Islamic World Apologize for Slavery? – Part 3” (by Adrian Morgan), 3 Apr.
http://westernresistance.com
Hmmmm, I’m obliged to correct the second last paragraph of this comment of mine:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/5304548027124912145/#336131
My comment on slavery on the Slavery Days post on The Editors blog eventually did appear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/
Funny thing is, it’s comment no. 12 and a few days ago, when there where 13 comments, mine wasn’t among them.
I know somebody explained how/why this can happen a short time ago, but maybe they can explain it again because it sure baffles me.
love it, love it, love it!
This site, that is. Thanks guys (and guyettes) it’s an oasis of sense in an ocean of bullshit.
“passover watch”
not here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/default.stm
and not here either:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/news/include.shtml?jewish
I have just emailed the AL-BEEB complaints department, to ask why there has been no coverage of the Passover,no doubt it’s an oversite on their behalf.
xlr | 03.04.07 – 6:47 pm
We aim to please, but sometimes when firing on full auto the odd round may go astray.
Little Green Footballs on the Cockburn article:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25001&only&rss
“finchy | 03.04.07 – 6:52 pm”
they did the same (to paddys day) on the main TV news bulletins (6 o clock, 10 o clock) on March 17th – paddys day.
admitedly , there were mentions on the main bbc.co.uk site. but not a whisper on the main tv news bulletin of the day – and afaik it was quite a slow news day as well.
however, this complete lack of passover reference is even worse than that. i just cant find a single reference anywhere.
The BBC and revisionist History.
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I only got my history from the BBC would I be the only one who presumed that the UK invaded the Las Malvinas Islands and kicked spic arse.
Every story I have read from the BBC reads like an apologists dream.
British Bad
Other person victim.
Err BBC for a news agency which has no problem defending terrorists attacking Israel, Thailand, Kashmir, Kosovo, because they deem them Islamic lands and thus require all non Muslims to be killed off you don’t half make a song and dance about a couple of bits of rock (Well peat and tussock grass actually) which are over 200 miles away from Argentina . You disregard the wishes of the local people (people who on a whole have lived there a lot longer than the Albanians who live in Kosovo. (Funny how the world (including the BBC) say they have a right to self determination. And that the Serbs who still live there. (But moved out by a much higher birth rate) have no say in the matter.
As for Reynolds and this bit of tripe;
“I and a couple of other British reporters on board were invited up to the flight deck where the captain remarked he was sorry about the dispute which he hoped could be solved in a “gentlemanly” fashion. We all shook hands. No war is gentlemanly but this was more gentlemanly than many.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6513871.stm
If the Argentines had been gentlemen they wouldn’t have sent their special forces to attack Moody brook Barracks in the middle of the Night in which to kill off the naval party that was based there without a declaration of war. You kind of left that snippet out. But then what do you know about the Falklands. I least I did two tours there 1982 and 1983 so I can speak with a little authority on the subject. Ask anybody who was down there about the little paki lad who worked off the public jetty on the CSBs. That was me.
” it’s an oasis of sense in an ocean of bullshit.
xlr | 03.04.07 – 6:47 pm ”
picking apart the self contradictory self-loathing world of the leftwing chatterati media elite (as embodied by the likes of the Guardian and the BBC) is a logical mental exercise that is equivalent to solving a rubiks cube every day.
and if you can make it , dont forget the protest outside of the iranian embassy tommorow.
http://freethenavy15.blogspot.com/
however, this complete lack of passover reference is even worse than that. i just cant find a single reference anywhere.
archduke | 03.04.07 – 7:08 pm
I suppose they are omitting to mention Easter as well. But whenever the time comes around, it’s wall to wall Ramadan and Hajj, complete with the double ‘j’.
The BBC are trying to turn everyone into dhimmis like themselves.
“Twenty-five years on, the Argentines have not forgotten and the British have not forgiven.”
hmmm.. bit harsh. i would think that the vast majority of Brits do realise that we were fighting a Argentine fascist junta led by Galtieri, and his CONSCRIPTED army – we have no grudge against the Argentine people or its modern democracy.
They even have a rugby team…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union_in_Argentina
and there’s a welsh speaking colony in Patagonia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_settlement_in_Argentina
and a rather big Irish community:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_settlement_in_Argentina
not to mention the strong ties to Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_settlement_in_Argentina
I was wrong about Channel 4 – no Cockburn. It was worse – they had the former UK ambassador to Iran Sir Richard Appeasement Dalton on yet again. He must have earned a small fortune in appearance money over the past few days. From 2002-2006 this man was our frontline example of British resolve in Tehran. No wonder Iran felt confident in its recent actions.
“UK ambassador to Iran Sir Richard Appeasement Dalton on yet again.”
and Margaret Beckett has said that there wont be “swift resolution” to the crisis.
pressure on the Iranians? what pressure?
(sidenote: Iran has just ONE refinery capable of producing petroleum. its dependent on petroleum imports… doesnt take a genius to figure out what to do in order to apply pressure. )
c4 news – “mark of cain”
looks like their going ahead with the broadcast. oh dear. this really isnt good timing for it.
And I’ll have to add muppet.
Bryan | 03.04.07 – 5:52 pm |
Sorry Bryan I forgot the muppet. I’ve also had ‘honky’
http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/03/my_biased_view_of_the_biased_b_1.php
look at what i said in the comments versus the reply.
No wonder Iran felt confident in its recent actions.
Anonanon | 03.04.07 – 7:32 pm | #
I know it’s not the IBC but watching C4 news two days in a row has been nauseating. First yesterday’s endless interview with old Laryngitis (or whatever he’s called) was an exercise in Iranian gameplaying – complete with the kind of contradictions, evasions and actually sheer rubbish that no Western politician would be allowed to get away with – punctuated by ever more deferent questions from dhimmi Snow. As no-one could possibly get any clear message from Laryngitis’s ramblings it took Jonathan Rugman to explain to us that the message was very positive and all we had to do was lie back and take it. That was followed by an even more excruciating ‘debate’ with MPs on the Iran all party group who were falling over themselves to compete for dhimmi of the year award. This then all got reported by the IBC in the morning (who must have been sick with envy at C4s coup) as “positive developments” in the diplomatic process. Then today it was all topped by Sir Richard (appeasement) Dalton warning the government not to take things too quickly. (that WOULD be the day). Sadly the Iranian dissident who might have been interesting looked intimidated by appearing on telly and wasn’t give any opportunity to say much anyway. The only really predictable thing is that this will run and run. I did notice that nobody had made any moves in the chess being ‘played’ by our hostages. The only game not being played.
Patrick Cockburns father Claud:
“Under the name Frank Pitcairn, Cockburn also contributed to the British communist newspaper the Daily Worker. In 1936, Harry Pollitt, the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Great Britain, asked him to cover the Spanish Civil War for the newspaper. When he arrived in Spain, he joined the Fifth Regiment so that he could report the war as an ordinary soldier. While in Spain, he published Reporter in Spain.
Cockburn was attacked by George Orwell in his book Homage to Catalonia (1938). Orwell accused Cockburn of being under the control of the Communist Party and was particularly critical of the way Cockburn reported the Barcelona May Days. Cockburn helped spread propaganda that Hitler and Mussolini had planned the revolt, leading to its suppression.
According to the editor of a volume of his writings on Spain, Claud Cockburn formed a close personal relationship with Mikhail Koltsov, “then the foreign editor of Pravda and at that time, in Cockburn’s view, ‘the confidant and mouthpiece and direct agent of Stalin in Spain’.”
“His grand-daughters include RadioNation host Laura Flanders, BBC Newsnight economics editor Stephanie Flanders, and The O.C. actress Olivia Wilde.”
Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claud_Cockburn”
Kevin Marsh replies to the alleged “dumbing down” report
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/04/dumbing_down.html
He hasnt seen it, the “report”.
Anyways, he says that the license fee is “a bit less than the cost of taking, say, the Daily Mail every day”.
Freudian slip? Why not the Guardian?
The insinuation is of course is that the BBC is so much better than buying a rag like the Mail.
But Mr Marsh, I’m not forced by law to buy the Mail every day. If I refuse to buy my Daily BBC , i go to jail. If I refuse to buy the Mail, nothing happens. Big difference.