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  1. Anonanon says:

    Radio 4 recorded some stand-up routines from Glastonbury for a programme airing next Wednesday, and they’ve put up a taster online. There’s the usual anti-American, anti-war rubbish which would be embarrassing coming from a 13-year old let alone paid comedians, but it’s worth listening to just for the guy who recites a poem about forgiveness in which bin Laden turns out to be “a really nice bloke”. It is the epitome of left-liberal head-in-sand wishful thinking; the crowd liked it, and clearly someone at the BBC did too.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/glastonbury/2007/radio4/

    And on the topic of Radio 4 comedy – I caught some of the Now Show on Friday. Pisspoor as usual. I notice that Peter Kay has become a recurring target for the show’s regular band of lefties. This Guardian article might indicate why:

    Baby-faced and wide-eyed, he avoids jokes about sex and politics. His act lacks cruelty and he hardly ever swears. He’s also teetotal, happily married and, by all accounts, a bit of a homebody.
    Kevin Lygo, Channel 4’s director of television and the man who first brought Kay’s charms to a TV audience, notes: “He’s not in the tradition of the modern comedian at all. And he doesn’t really tell jokes as such, though he gets more laughs per minute than most comedians. His comedy is observational in the best sense, sweet and honest. When we first saw him, I remember thinking he was a great talent who would be around for a long time. He’s blessed with funny bones.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1327879,00.html

    The bastard! No wonder the BBC’s right-on comedy mafia don’t like him. If he wants their approval he’ll have to start telling shit jokes about George Bush.

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  2. garypowell says:

    Hill*unt

    Is it not truely incredible unyet as all lovers of freedom should know, sadly predictable. Just quite how quickly the Libertarian evaporates from the socialist when power visits its elitist ideology?

    Libertarianism is the deepest foundation of a free and liberal sociaty.

    You have repeatedly shown yourself to be not only a patronising socialist, but also an enemy of free speech.

    No one on this site except you and your compatriot BBC worshipping trolls are attemping to stiffle debate or ban alternative political perspectives being transmitted to the world. However the BBC does every second of every day it exsists.

    Open, free, and well informed debate, carried out by as many people as possible, is just about the only way good government comes about. Usually because the outcome of proper debate often results in governments doing nothing or very little at all.

    THE BBC does stiffle free intelligent well informed debate. It does this in a multitude of different ways. Mainly by crowding out any alternative radical competitors and by relentlessly campaigning to conserve the status-quo in everything concerning its own gravy train like socialist fantasy land.

    while at the very same time, (sometimes in the same sentence,) acting to divert the publics attention from its not so covert empire building. This by systematically destroying every other conservative institutional influence still left clinging to the side of OUR just about sea worthy democratic lifeboat.

    The BBC is only interested in one alternative political perspective and thats the BBCs very own useless colledge boy, champaign socialist, Nazi inspired, self-interested group-think one.

    And BTW

    Wellcome Hill*unt to the authoritarian socialist U.E. nightmare that you and your sort have struggled since the 1920s to inflict on Europe and the free world.

    Its just a very big shame that its not only you and your dangerously brainwashed chums that are forced to live and die in it.

    “Lighten up” you say. I say this day in particular could just turn out to be not only one of the Darkest days but also one of the LAST days, of our British history.

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  3. Ultraviolets says:

    The thing with libertarianism is that it has no libidnal lightning rod, it has no flag and anthem, no rally point – it is purely intellectual – it is not body and spirit in the way that nationhood is.

    What we need is a military organisation to force the end of the BBC, the EU, and wikipedia.

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  4. Jim Miller says:

    Here’s a question for those of you who get more of your news from the BBC than I do: Which gang of terrorists is the BBC backing in the Palestinian civil war?

    I am guessing that older, more established, BBC employees are sticking with the devil they know, Fatah. And that younger, more trendy, BBC employees are backing Hamas.

    But how does it balance out? Do more in the BBC back Fatah, or Hamas?

    (Just so there is no misunderstanding, I will add that I despise both gangs of terrorists, and that anyone who cares for the Palestinian people can only hope that both are suppressed.)

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  5. hillhunt says:

    Cheez,

    “Lighten up” you say. I say this day in particular could just turn out to be not only one of the Darkest days but also one of the LAST days, of our British history.
    garypowell | 24.06.07 – 3:30 pm

    And then this…

    What we need is a military organisation to force the end of the BBC, the EU, and wikipedia.

    Ultraviolets | 24.06.07 – 3:56 pm

    How do you guys get up every morning? The sheer, dark, oppressiveness of all this makes a black hole sound an upbeat place to be.

    Ever tried beta-blockers?

    Biased BBC: Oswald Mosley’s gibbering son

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  6. Anonymous says:

    Escape From Hell:

    Alfred Wetzler’s daring flight from Nazi death camp helped to save more than 120,000 Hungarian Jews from the gas chambers
    http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2701304.ece

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  7. Anonanon says:

    Another great article about the UN by Claudia Rossett.
    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWZlZmYwY2ZkNWMyYTMyNjhmYTdkNGU1OTY3ZTM4MmI

    Could any of the BBC employees who visit this blog explain what Laura Trevelyan gets paid to do (apart from singing lovey-dovey songs for corrupt UN Secretary Generals, that is)?

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  8. Ian Infidel says:

    “Chemical Ali,” and two others sentenced to death:

    Chemical Aliand and five other Saddam henchmen have been on trial for their role in the genocidal “Anfal” campaign in Iraqi Kurdistan in 1988. Around 182,000 people were killed during the Anfal, many of them with poison gas.
    Mass graves are still being found. http://tinyurl.com/xjve

    “Iraq’s ‘Chemical Ali’ sentenced to hang”
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070624/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=A9G_Rz0tkX5G.jIAQhGs0NUE

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  9. Samfromgib says:

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/872872.html
    Not BBC, but close relatives – a couple of the names seem familiar…..

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  10. reimer says:

    Re Anonanon’s swipe at the Glasto set and R4-friendly comics…

    the audience is full of pious well-to-do hippies, the acts are nasty priggish snobs whose ‘humour’ lacks any of the mirth engendered by someone such as PK (whose rise is startling given the ‘friends of Stephen Fry’/TigerAspect/Soho production office media lockdown of the last 15 years)

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  11. Ian Infidel says:

    Have a look at what Chemical Ali (sentenced to hang) did to the Iraqi Kurds:

    Chemical massacre of the Kurds by the Iraqi regime
    http://www.kdp.pp.se/old/chemical.html

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  12. Anonymous says:

    Jim Miller,

    Yes.

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  13. bijan daneshmand says:

    degee

    Hard to prove without listening and recording hours of BBC broadcasts. Most of us would rather face root canal surgery.

    Its not neccessary to trawl through hours of recordings to see blantany pro-radical Islam BBC bias just do any of the foolowing …

    compare BBC coverage of

    * Radical UK Muslims v anything else
    * US Government v EU/UN

    * Israel v Palestinians
    * Egypt v Iran
    * Fatah v Hamas
    * Turk Secularists v Turk Islamist
    * Algerian Secularists v Agerian Islamist
    * Musharaff v Islamic Paki parties
    * Indian Kashmiri v Islamic Kashmiri
    * Russia v Chechen Islamic Militants

    I can go on and on and on .. but i dont need to …

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  14. pounce says:

    The BBC, its fixation on global warming and half a story.

    Storms in Karachi kill 200 people
    Torrential rains and gale-force winds have led to the deaths of more than 200 people in the coastal city of Karachi in southern Pakistan. Some 43 people were killed by the storms on Saturday afternoon, while the other bodies were recovered on Sunday. Dozens more were injured as heavy winds uprooted trees and brought down power lines, electrocuting people. Karachi residents were already suffering from power cuts which have led to riots in the city. The minister of health for Sindh province, where Karachi is located, had earlier reported that 228 people had been killed in the storms, but the province’s governor later reduced the total to 213.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6233868.stm

    The BBC without saying why informs the world that horrible storms are hitting the Sub Continent of Asia. Oh right at the end of that post they add this;
    “Every year thousands of people are killed and hundreds of thousands made homeless across South Asia by months of monsoon rains.”
    But other than that last paragraph nothing in that article stipulates that now is the start of the Monsoon season.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/India_southwest_summer_monsoon_onset_map_en.svg/530px-India_southwest_summer_monsoon_onset_map_en.svg.png

    Another strange thing the BBC doesn’t comment on. Natural disasters take no notice of political boundaries yet the other year when the Earthquake struck less died in India than in Pakistan. Now that it is Monsoon time, less are dying in India than in Pakistan. I wonder if the BBC would run a Panorama program on just why that is?
    And here is the BBC gif on the Monsoon season. It starts in India so Pakistan gets hits last. So shouldn’t more Indians die than Pakistani.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/images/Monsoon-animation.gif

    The BBC, its fixation on global warming and half a story.

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  15. pounce says:

    Something the BBC won’t tell you about Glastonbury;
    Taken from the Glastonbury website;
    Weekend tickets cost £145.00 plus £5.00 handling charge per ticket, plus £4 delivery charge per transaction.
    http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/information.aspx?id=445#2
    Add food costs, transport costs, living costs and beer costs and you are not going to get much change out of £300.
    How many poor people can afford £300 for a weekend’s holiday?

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  16. PJF says:

    “What we need is a military organisation to force the end of the BBC, the EU, and wikipedia.”

    Maybe I’m guilty of seeing a conspiracy rather than a kook, but I’d bet money that Ultraviolets is a plant to discredit Biased-BBC.

    hillhunt wrote:
    “Biased BBC: Oswald Mosley’s gibbering son”

    tsk, tsk, Ultraviolets is no more part of Biased BBC blog than you are, old chap.

    And speaking of political ancestry, what about the leanings of the Great Father of our glorious State Corporation:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/newspapers/sunday_times/scotland/article648996.ece

    (damn that Murdoch press, again…)
    .

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  17. pounce says:

    The BBC it’s love for Glastonury and its hatred of Jews.
    Doing the Glastonbury grand tour
    Next door is the Jew(ish) Tent (“Open to Jews and infidels alike”), which also hosts bands. But I don’t have time for religious revelations, so head to the Other Stage – the festival’s second stage.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6234504.stm#map

    Just wondering if there is a Islam tent and if they also hoast bands.

    The BBC it’s love for Glastonury and its hatred of Jews.

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  18. max says:

    On the BBC front page there’s a news story link titled: Israel release of funds ‘bribe’.
    Guess who’s being quoted?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6235180.stm

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  19. Natalie Solent says:

    PJF writes, “I’d bet money that Ultraviolets is a plant to discredit Biased-BBC.”

    I would not so bet, but Ultraviolets and Phoebe have both had comments deleted as offensive on another thread. I repeat here what I said there in case they missed it: if you wish to continue commenting here do not repeat comments of that tone, particularly directed at named individuals.

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  20. pounce (correction) says:

    The BBC it’s love for Glastonbury and its hatred of Jews.
    Doing the Glastonbury grand tour
    Next door is the Jew(ish) Tent (“Open to Jews and infidels alike”), which also hosts bands. But I don’t have time for religious revelations, so head to the Other Stage – the festival’s second stage.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6234504.stm

    Just wondering if there is a Muslim-ish tent and if they also host bands.
    (Don’t inform the Taliban)

    The BBC it’s love for Glastonbury and its hatred of Jews.

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  21. Biodegradable says:

    Biased BBC: Oswald Mosley’s gibbering son
    hillhunt | 24.06.07 – 4:22 pm

    Can we invoke Godwin’s Law or does that only apply to Hitler and his Nazis?

    Once again it’s telling that sickc*nt redirects the debate onto fascists when talking to somebody he knows full well has lost family in the Holocaust.

    For the record:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Mosley%2C_3rd_Baron_Ravensdale
    Nicholas Mosley, 3rd Baron Ravensdale (born June 25, 1923) is a British novelist. He is the eldest son of Sir Oswald Mosley and Lady Cynthia Mosley, a daughter of Marquess Curzon of Kedleston. Diana Mosley (née Mitford) was his stepmother.

    As an adult Nicholas was a harsh critic of his father in Beyond the Pale: Sir Oswald Mosley and Family 1933-1980 (1983), calling into question his father’s motives and understanding of politics. Nicholas’ work contributed to the 1997 Channel 4 television programme titled Mosley based on his father’s life. At the end of the movie, Nicholas is portrayed meeting his father in prison to ask him about his national allegiance.

    http://www.oswaldmosley.com/
    “No rising star in the political firmament ever shone more brightly than Sir Oswald Mosley. Since by general assent he could have become the leader of either the Labour or the Conservative Party. What Mosley so valiantly stood for could have saved this country from the Hungry Thirties and the Second World War”. – Michael Foot, M.P.

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  22. Biodegradable says:

    Next door is the Jew(ish) Tent (“Open to Jews and infidels alike”), which also hosts bands.

    Jews do not call non-Jews “infidels”.

    They are called “gentiles”, “goyim” in Yiddish, or in the case of that BBC reporter possibly “shiksehs”.

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  23. pounce says:

    Biodegradable wrote;
    “Jews do not call non-Jews “infidels”.”

    If that is so. Why would the BBC write such an Paragraph. Are you saying the Impartial BBC is somehow Biased?

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  24. Biodegradable says:

    Are you saying the Impartial BBC is somehow Biased?
    pounce | 24.06.07 – 7:31 pm

    LOL, why would I think that? 😆

    What it does indicate is that the BBC is adopting more and more the language of Islam in its everyday life.

    I’m sure in the future we’ll see words like “jihad” used when talking, for example, about global warming; “minister declares jihad on fossile fuels”. Or perhaps we’ll have local councils declaring a “fatwah” on litterbugs.

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  25. terry johnson says:

    From michelle malkin blog (http://michellemalkin.com/) comes this disturbing story on the vicious crackdown on young Iranians by the mad mullahs..

    “Today I am joining blogs Gateway Pundit, Ali Eteraz, and Iran Focus in reprinting the latest batch of Iranian repression photos being distributed by the regime’s state-run FARS News agency and ISNA. The innocent young men in the photos were beaten, humiliated, and arrested for wearing Western clothing and hairstyles. It is in the public interest to spread these photos far and wide. The images should be seared onto the global conscience:”

    The accompanying photos show young Iranians being beaten and humiliated by the masked thugs of the islamist police. Will Al-BBC show us this side of their beloved Islamist regime ?

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  26. Biodegradable says:

    We are not alone in noticing Al-Beeb’s pro-Hamas position:
    BBC Trashes Fatah?

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  27. pounce says:

    The BBC, racial prejudice and half a story.

    Serving America’s ‘Muslim army’
    Arab-Americans have been fighting in Iraq since the very beginning of the conflict there. Many simply see it as their duty to serve their homeland, America.
    Others who have ended up on the frontlines in the so-called “war on terror” have suffered a crisis of conscience, having had to fight fellow Arabs and Muslims as the “enemy”.
    JAMAL BAADANI
    It was about caring for your nation, serving your nation. When I was in Egypt, that was Egypt. But when I came to the US, I realised this is my country now.
    My father didn’t want me to join the military – not because he thought the military was bad, but because he thought I was going to be a doctor, a lawyer or an engineer.
    After 9/11, my uncle, who had worked for a large car manufacturer for over 30 years, called me crying – saying ‘please send me a picture of you in uniform; I need to prove my patriotism to my fellow workers.’ I was out with a couple of my marines, and a woman came up to say ‘I want to thank you for serving our country, especially at this time.’ Then she asked me where I was from. When I said, ‘Egypt’, she had this look on her face and she said, ‘you’re a terrorist.’ And that was in a Marine Corp uniform. I cussed her out – I called her every name under the sun. I’m an American too – how dare she tell me I was something different. But our community sometimes does that to our own. They say, ‘you’re not worthy, because you’re serving the military.’ But they don’t understand that we’re serving and helping the community.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6230498.stm

    So according to the BBC Muslims in Uniform get more flack from white Americans than they do from their own.
    Here is how Baadani is reported on in the States;
    Some, like Baadani, have felt the greatest sting of prejudice from fellow Arab-Americans—he has even received thinly veiled death threats—rather than the broader American community.
    http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2005/edition_04-17-2005/featured_0

    The BBC, racial prejudice and half a story.

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  28. terry johnson says:

    Are the islamists and fellow-travellers at Al-Beeb reporting on the crackdown on Iranian youth by the mullahs ? No, of course not. Why would Al-BBC be interested in the arrests of 150,000 young people (according to Iranian police sources) because they are not “islamic” enough in their dress or hairstyles? But, surprisingly, Al-BBC do have the resources to interview a bunch of Iranians living in Canada who want to bellyache about how unfair it is that the evil West dares to label their homeland as a terrorist state..

    “Living with Iran’s terror label”

    So, our national broadcaster would rather defend the islamist regime’s image than report on the sickening beatings handed out to thousands by that regime’s religious police thugs.

    Al-BBC – All the news fit for infidels to read.

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  29. pounce says:

    The BBC and how it spins the truth to tell another story.

    NHS no better under Labour – poll
    Four in 10 people in England do not believe the NHS has got better under Labour, a poll says.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6235350.stm

    Correct me if I am wrong here but isn’t 6/10th of a survey of 1000 people a larger figure than 4/10th who said that the NHS hasn’t got better under Labour.

    Oh Clones before you answer I’ve looked at the BMA web site on the above story.

    The BBC and how it spins the truth to tell another story.

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  30. Jon says:

    The Glastonbury Festival has been going on since the 1970s so why are the BBC so keen on it now?

    Could this be why

    “The Glastonbury Festival is the worlds largest rock music festival. Being comitted to current social and political issues Michael Eavis the Glastonbury Festival’s owner and organiser has chosen three documentaries as part of what they describe as the ‘must see’ films at the festival.

    All films are being shown across the three consecutive days of the festival at 1pm in the Cinema Marqee. The first on the Friday is Al Gore’s, ‘An Inconveinient Truth’ about the threat of global warming. Second on the list of must see films is John Pilger’s new film, ‘War on Democracy’.

    Then the third film I am delighted to announce is Fourman Films, ‘The Truth About Weapon’s Of Mass Destruction’ wirtten and Directed by Paul Hanes.”

    http://www.thetruthaboutweaponsofmassdestruction.com/blog/

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  31. Jon says:

    And could it possible be that the organiser behind the festival is Michael Eavis – who fits in perfectly with the BBC agenda.

    “In the 1997 General Election he stood as a candidate for the Labour Party in the Wells Constituency [2], polling 10,204 votes, Labour’s best performance in the seat for many years. In 2004 however, he suggested that disillusioned Labour voters should switch their vote to the Green Party to protest at the Iraq War.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Eavis

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  32. terry johnson says:

    “The Glastonbury Festival has been going on since the 1970s so why are the BBC so keen on it now?

    Could this be why”

    Good point, Jon. The half-baked liberals who run the mud-bath at Glastonbury all share Al-BBC’s “head in the sand” attitude to the global Jihad. They all believe that “Bushitler” and the evil West are the biggest threat to their pampered way of life. Never mind that Islamists murdered 200 young dancers and surfers in Bali, nevermind that British islamists plotted to murder thousands of kids at venues like the Ministry of Sound – Never mind that Algerian islamists killed hundreds of musicians for being “unislamic” . No, the real terrorists must be Bush/Blair?Howard. Talk about Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burned !!!

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  33. Wayne says:

    Here we go again. According to Al-beeb:

    “At least 10 people have been killed in fighting between Lebanese troops and suspected Islamic militants in the northern city of Tripoli.

    Two civilians, one soldier, a policeman and at least six Islamist gunmen are said to have been killed in the fight.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6234076.stm

    And here is the Reuters report on which Al-beebs story was based:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL2452404720070624

    “TRIPOLI, Lebanon (Reuters) – Lebanese troops killed seven Islamist militants, most of them foreigners, in a raid on their hideout in the northern city of Tripoli on Sunday, while sporadic battles shook a nearby Palestinian refugee camp.

    Security sources said one soldier was killed and 14 were wounded during the 10-hour siege of an apartment building. The militants killed a policeman, his two daughters, aged 4 and 8, and his father-in-law after using them as human shields.

    A police statement said the policeman and his daughters were visiting the father-in-law who lived in the building when the militants stormed their flat and seized them at the start of the clashes. The militants later killed them, it said.”

    Al-Beeb, Biased by omission.

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  34. pounce says:

    Terry johnson writes;
    “Could this be why”
    This was one of the letters in the Guardian yesterday;
    Almost two decades ago, you printed my letter decrying the burning of The Satanic Verses. I made the mistake of failing to ask you to withhold my address and as a result received such hate mail that my wife demanded that we move house. For simply expressing the desire to read a book, my property, my life and my family were threatened by people I had never met, acting in the name of one of the world’s major faiths.Rushdie’s situation was worse. The threats to him were public, “official” and backed by money. He had no way out. If he wrote as a Muslim he committed heresy, punishable by death under Islamic law. If he renounced Islam, he was apostate, for which the penalty is the same. Now once again he is threatened with death (Letters, June 21). He has done nothing new. His sin is simply to have accepted an honour from his country.

    Address supplied

    http://books.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2109643,00.html

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  35. Jon says:

    terry johnson: Good point – ironic isn’t it but if they get their way the first thing to go would be thier festival.

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  36. bob says:

    I’ve heard of the Stockholm Syndrome, but this is ridiculous:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6235754.stm

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  37. Anonymous says:

    “The reporter was abducted in March by a group calling itself The Army of Islam.”

    No, no, no – it can’t be. Surely the Zionists have instigated this in some way? Nothing evil can be done by the oppressed Palestinian people in Hamastan and Fatahland.

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  38. bijan daneshmand says:

    BELT TIGHTENING AT THE BBC

    Can’t wait for this video ….

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6235754.stm

    …. lets hope for Johnston’s sake that he is worth more to Hamas alive than dead.

    Wonder if this video will ever see the light of day.

    And isnt just sooo like the BBC to give the most prominent place on their Mid East spreadto their most beloved ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6235180.stm

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  39. bijan daneshmand says:

    AL BEEB: “Our land, our nation will not come back to us except with steadfastness and resistance!”

    Glory be to Allah … Al Beeb … and Jihad!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6235180.stm

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  40. MisterMinit says:

    pounce:
    Biodegradable wrote;
    “Jews do not call non-Jews “infidels”.”

    If that is so. Why would the BBC write such an Paragraph. Are you saying the Impartial BBC is somehow Biased?
    pounce | 24.06.07 – 7:31 pm | #

    Am I missing something here…

    But that infidel remark was a quote, so I can only assume that the tent had that slogan written on it. If you know better then please fill me in.

    So how does this show the BBC’s hatred of Israel exactly?

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  41. MisterMinit says:

    … Sorry, I should have written hatred of Jews there.

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  42. bijan daneshmand says:

    Ultraviolets:
    Alan Johnston has Stockholm syndrome

    Ultra

    Johnston is a very special case of Stockholm Syndrome

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

    … its the first recorded case of someone having totally identifying with his captors before having been taken hostage by them …

    Marx said “History always repeats itself twice: first time as tragedy, second time as farce.”

    Ironic that the same will be Johnston’s legacy as a “journalist.”

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  43. bijan daneshmand says:

    michedlle malikin has picked up on a story that the BBC Tehran correspondant has made light of

    Iran police move into fashion business
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6213854.stm

    here is the horrific reality that the BBC wont show you

    http://michellemalkin.com/2007/06/24/the-human-rights-outrage-in-iranand-a-challenge-to-rosie-odonnell-and-her-ilk/

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  44. Jon says:

    “Hamas has set a deadline of Monday for the kidnappers to release him.”

    Does anyone find it feasable that Hamas do not know where Johnstone is being held? The Gaza strip as the BBc keep telling us is densley populated, no doubt it has many Hamas supporters in Gaza. To put it another way Gaza is smaller than the Isle of Wight with a much bigger population.

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  45. David Preiser says:

    Ultraviolets,

    One can only succumb to Stockholm Syndrome if one was not on the side of the kidnappers in the first place. Not that Johnston would deliberately garb himself in the national uniform of Palestine. If true, he’s under duress. But, as evinced by the infamous letter to his kidnappers from a BBC colleague, and Marwan Baghouti’s statement that Johnston is a “friend to the Palestinians,” not to mention his own explanation of his journalistic philosophy, he was already a supporter.

    So no Stockholm Syndrome there, just what Lenin would call a “useful idiot”, discovering just how useful the objects of his affection really want him to be. No schadenfreude intended.

    Of course, what’s really stupid is that his kidnappers demands strangely involve the release of an Iraqi woman arrested while attempting a suicide bombing, and a piece of real estate in Gaza. Oh, and a pile of cash. They apparently chose Johnston because they had evidence that he was – wait for it – an Israeli tool. Did they bring this up with their kidnapping victim? I wonder how that conversation went.

    Finally, another conundrum: Would this experience – including knowledge of the motives behind the act – do anything to change Johnston’s mind about the motives of Hamas and their supporters? Or would this experience just reinforce his beliefs that Israel has driven them to it?

    I just hope that killing the poor guy doesn’t help their cause. I fear it will.

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  46. bijan daneshmand says:

    Mahmoud Zahar — a founder of Hamas, and the new Islamic state in the Gaza

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,490160,00.html

    sanatised version of Zahar by Al beeb
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/4160459.stm

    here is the inimitable Tim Sebastien who was oviously too good for teh BBC cleaning Zahar’s clock

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/3043915.stm

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  47. will says:

    The BBC winds up the Johnston belt report with

    More than 170,000 people have now signed an online petition calling for his release.

    (& probably more muddy pages of signatures to be handed in from “Left Field” at Glastonbury)

    That’s how we should sort out the world’s problems.

    Unforunately Hamas (or whoever) appear to be able to resist the vibes in the same way as Blair ignored the millions who marched in 2003.

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  48. deegee says:

    Next door is the Jew(ish) Tent (“Open to Jews and infidels alike”)
    It has been my experience that people who use the noun ‘Jew’ as an adjective instead of the customary ‘Jewish’ are generally antisemitic and sometimes violently so.

    It’s possible (in the tradition of Sacha Baron Cohen telling Jewish jokes and getting away with it) that the tent labelled Jew Tent (certainly not in any publication I’ve seen) and had a banner (as suggested by MisterMinit) inviting ‘Infidels’ but I doubt it.

    Unless someone proves me wrong with a photograph I would take that as a gratuitously antisemitic remark and wonder how it made it through editing. You ask yourself why of all the other religious offerings at Glastonbury the one religion to be snubbed is Jewish?

    JEWISH TENT
    For some four years now a tent has been located in Holts camping field, near the Glade. It is a small tent which allows members of the faith to meet up on the Friday and celibrate together.

    At Glastonbury there is an interfaith church and Hari Krishna. Additionally there are Buddhist, Hindu, Taoist, Pagan (?) and something called the Coracle.

    There is also the Twelve Tribes Cafe, described by the Guardian in 2000 as Christian fundamentalists are taking advantage of open air music gatherings to spread anti-semitic messages

    I repeat my above point: why of all the other religious offerings at Glastonbury the one religion to be snubbed is Jewish?

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  49. Bryan says:

    deegee | 24.06.07 – 1:52 pm,

    Ah, light dawns. Thanks.

    (Too tired to respond to your post above.)

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