General BBC related comment thread:

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  1. GCooper says:

    Martin: I’ve given up listening to Mayo. He really is the most smug, irritating little right-on puppy, epitomising the absolute ethical corruption at the heart of the BBC.

    The Corporation may think it hides its absolute bias by blending it with lightweight entertainment pap on channels like 5 ‘live’, but it’s wrong.

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  2. PaulS says:

    More the BBC is not telling us about the man at the centre of the Ermine Sleaze row:

    Lord Taylor, an archetypal New Labour apparatchik from Straw’s constituency machine, has lived off the taxpayer in Labour Party appointed posts all his life. He is now chiefly known as the second highest claimer of expenses in the House of Lords. In 2005 Lord Taylor claimed over £57,000 of tax-free expenses, over three times the average claim of under £19,000. he spoke 15 times in the year.

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/01/jack_straws_cor.html

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  3. Jimmy C says:

    PaulS | 27.01.09 – 1:32 pm

    “More the BBC is not telling us”

    And has the BBC told us about Lord T’s relationship with Croatian entrepreneur Goran Strok?

    Has it heckerslike.

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  4. martin says:

    Don’t forget Nick the prick Robinson admitted the BBC didn’t want to look into peter Mandelson and his relationship with the Russian yacht owner.

    Mandelson being another Labour Peer of course.

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  5. frankos says:

    fat Derek Draper–
    You mean Blair’s original spin doctor??
    Not “Beneath contempt” Draper?
    Typical BBC inspired objectivity!

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  6. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    I notice that Newsnight and the BBC are trying to move the Labour sleaze story away from Liebour and on to general House of Lords reforms.

    Yep, interviewing the science minister about investment in biotechnology at midday – and bringing up the ‘House of Lords’ reform.
    BBC: We lie for Labour. It’s what we do.

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  7. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    On Radio 5 right now some Labour peer is being given a totally free ride by Simon Mayo to justify ‘bungs’. It’s Lord Soley.

    Oh yes, the vile Clive Soley. A pig in the trough all his life, in the constituency down the road from me when I lived in London. A revolting little slug – and now pushing the third runway for all he’s worth (which is less than last week’s newspaper).

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  8. George R says:

    Is there a conspiracy of silence regarding Labour LORD AHMED in the MSM (inc. BBC)?:

    ‘Harry’s Place’

    “Lord Ahmed and racism”

    http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/01/27/lord-ahmed-and-racism/

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  9. d says:

    martin:
    “I notice that Newsnight and the BBC are trying to move the Labour sleaze story away from Liebour and on to general House of Lords reforms.

    If it were Tory Peers me thinks the Tories would be getting hammered.”

    I agree 110% – The BBC are a real bunch of lying bastards. How can they get away with this ?

    The Conservatives would have faired better in previous elections and present opinion polls if they had not failed to reform the BBC when they were in power. They really only have themselves to blame

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  10. George R says:

    Unreported by British MSM (inc. BBC):

    – but ‘Brussels Journal’ has –

    ” Muslims in the Lords ”

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3765

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  11. frankos says:

    Crickey; he is a looker –suprised he didn’t get a job modelling in place of Beckham!
    Man is obviously from the same mould as the control freaking Lefties dragged out of the gutter by the 97 administation.

    Garbage in = garbage out

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  12. George R says:

    The BBC does know of Labour Lord Ahmed?

    ‘Sheik yer mami’:

    “UK: ‘Lord Ahmed’ achieves another ‘victory for the Muslim community’

    http://sheikyermami.com/2009/01/25/uk-lord-ahmed-achieves-another-victory-for-the-muslim-community/

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  13. martin says:

    What a joke. Randy Mandy spouting bollocks about the car industry. Funny that Nu Liebour have been trying to kill of the luxury and 4X4 car market for years.

    But whoops. A lot of those workers vote Liebour. Not any more.

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  14. Cassandra says:

    The BBCs own Islamist sympathiser Aleem Macdrool is upto his usual tricks for his hamas allies.
    Macbool on the spot interviewing hamas terrorists given an uncritical platform to air their lies, a farmer killed and the IDF striking blindly in revenge hitting blocks of flats filled with… wait for it…yeah women and children, a hamas man telling us that Israel is to blame for any agression(funny that, I thought hamas struck first), que usual hospital picture of corpse wrapped up and a bunch of hardmen in tears crying on demand(they must have been told to cry to make them look more human,suckers in the west just love to see men cry) although why the corpse was wrapped up is a mystery, perhaps the hamas handlers didnt want us to see the innocent farmer was in fact a hamas terrorist?
    So there we have it, Macdrool on in a flash giving us the hamas propaganda only, how any thinking person could be taken in by the rushed propaganda job is beyond me and probably beyond the dummies at the BBC trust!
    From the evidence of the blasts it is clear that the attack was a classic abduction raid, pick an isolated unit explode IEDs/RPGs and a fast snatch of survivors, though Macdrool would never ever tell us this, to him the terrorists were innocent farmers, yeah tight Macdrool bullshit you can believe in?

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  15. George R says:

    ‘Evening Standard’:

    “Gale blows through the BBC”

    http://londonersdiary.standard.co.uk/2009/01/gale-blows-through-the-bbc-.html

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  16. Grant says:

    The repulsive Lord Ahmed even looks like a preacher of hate. Can’t he be deported ?

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  17. Cassandra says:

    Yet more obvious global warming nonsense from the BBC, getting more desperate by the day as their AGW/MMCC house of cards collapses around their ears.
    Get this, penguins in Antarctica face near extintion IF ALL the Antarctic ice melts by the end of the century, Ooooh nooo! dont panic Mr Mannering.
    I know lets just suppose the ice DOESNT melt, what then? lets just suppose that the BBC propagandists looked at the evidence for two minutes they might find that far from melting the Antartic ice is increasing and even at the much reduced IPCC temp increase figures it would take thousands of years to melt the antartic ice.
    So despite all common sense and evidence even evidence provided by ‘approved sources’ the BBC still churns out fantasy ‘what if’ rubbish based on nothing more than a need for quick propaganda.
    I know two can play eh? What if the BBC lost its free billions and had to earn a living like every other business, they wouldnt last a year in the real world!

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  18. cassis says:

    With a bit of luck Lord Ahmed will be thrown in jail for mowing down a bloke while texting.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/3539830/Lord-Ahmed-admits-sending-text-message-while-driving-just-before-fatal-crash.html

    Doubt it though.

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  19. Grant says:

    PaulS 1:32

    Never thought I would agree with Craig Murray. On the other hand he
    does have an axe to grind with the government and especially Jack Straw, who sacked Murray, and is bosom buddies with Lord Taylor.
    Wheels within wheels, what a grubby business !

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  20. Grant says:

    GeorgeR 2:19
    Great expose of Ahmed’s racism !

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  21. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    Or, which seems more likely, that the original author assumed the story could or would be quickly buried with the minimum damage to ZaNuLabur

    Very likely, but also an indication of mega-stupidity. Don’t these idiots realise that the game is up for these gangsters, that the country is on to them?
    (great headline in today’s Mail: Brown has lost his marbles. Well, of course he has: but some of us have been saying this for 10 years).

    Either way, the sea change in the Corporation’s coverage tells us one thing: that we were right, the BBC apologists here were wrong and that the BBC has now come round to agreeing with us, that it was indefensible not to properly identify these twisters.

    Of course the beeboids were wrong.
    Hasn’t Piggy Taylor been forced to apologise? Hardly necessary if he dun nuttin’ wrong, eh, what?

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  22. Umimpressed of Lichfield says:

    For God’s (CofE God) sakes. Can all you Islamophobes and AntiSemites just bugger off? This is called Biased BBC, not FistfightaboutGaza.org

    Just an idea, no violence or religious fanaticism imputed, implied or required.

    So, as we were saying…that Jim Naughtie…what a a pointlessly globetrotting, boondoggling, pompous ass!

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  23. Cassandra says:

    Further to my last post about the Macdrool ‘report’ for hamas, heres my take based on hamas tactics and the pictures provided.

    A hamas snatch squad goes hunting for IDF prisoners(look at the pictures of those hamas men), the ambush goes according to plan, an IDF patrol jeep is attacked with IEDs and RPGs but the snatch is foiled, possibly because the survivors fought back and called in air support, the snatch squad runs away and hides behind civilians placed close by hamas for that specific purpose or to assist in hiding any IDF prisoners they managed to take and prevent air attack knowing the IDF wouldnt fire on civilians but the IDF manages to slot one terrorist, hence the body covered up, if those hardmen pictured were innocent farmers then the moon is made of cheese!

    Now then, the above explanation makes far more logical sense than the ridiculous Macdrool rubbish and tallies exactly with hamas tactics and past behaviour, hamas would love to get their hands on an IDF hostage and those men hamas men pictured are crying for their lost bonus of stolen UNRWA aid promised to them if they could snatch an IDF soldier.
    The BBC and Macdrool just happened to be ‘johnny on the spot’ almost as if they had inside knowledge of the hamas attack, perhaps Macdrool was promised an exclusive peak at an IDF prisoner by hamas as a reward for all his support? Macdrool must be very upset not to be sneering and jeering over an IDF prisoner as he was bundled away for a very very unpleasant death courtesy of the cruelest and most evil psychopaths on the planet.

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  24. martin says:

    Cassandra: the BBC have been banging on about “what if all the ice melts” for weeks now. They stuck this onto a report that showed some warming and some cooling in the Antarctic. At no time did the report mention ALL the ice melting. this was just made up by the BBC.

    And lets be honest. If ALL the ice did melt in the Antarctic the potential effect on human life would be of more importance than a few Penguins that most people have never seen.

    The BBC never seem to give up in looking for any old climate change scare story do they? Ignoring the fact that we are in the northern hemisphere experiencing one of the coldest winters for 30 years or more.

    Could you imagine if we were having the warmest winter for 30 years? The BBC wouldn’t shut up about it.

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  25. pounce says:

    So I’m at work and at lunch time i hear the news that poor pleading Hamas which wants you to feel for the children of Gaza. (Think of the children) whose supporters are berating the bBC because a child may die has bombed Israel killing 1 wounding 3 more.
    So imagine my suprise when I read the bBC news headline for the event.
    Israeli strike hits southern Gaza
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7853803.stm
    And the bBC tries to tell me it is impartial.

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  26. nrg says:

    The facts: Hama break ceasfire and kill Iraeli soldier at a border crossing. Israelis respond by pursing terror gang.

    BBC spin: Israel launches attacks in Gaza…Gazans are struggling to recover from the three-week conflict.
    See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7853803.stm

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  27. mikewineliberal says:

    The ever excellent Oliver Kamm in disagreement with his pal, the equally excellent Danny Fink, about TV bias.

    http://timesonline.typepad.com/oliver_kamm/2009/01/media-objectivi.html#comments

    Just see how splendidly civil a debate about bias can be.

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  28. slacker says:

    mikewineliberal:
    The ever excellent Oliver Kamm in disagreement with his pal, the equally excellent Danny Fink, about TV bias.

    http://timesonline.typepad.com/ o…i.html#comments

    Just see how splendidly civil a debate about bias can be.
    mikewineliberal | 27.01.09 – 5:01 pm | #

    Splendid? Nonsense.

    He says the BBC isn’t biased then turns around at the end saying he’s not qualified to spot bias.

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  29. Cassandra says:

    nrq,

    Its plain to see what actually happened and based on previous hamas sneak attacks but the BBC report looked hastily changed from a triumphant ‘hamas fighters capture IDF soldier in daring raid’ to ‘Israel attacks innocent farmers cos they is evil’ in a flash, hamas breaking the ceasefire is hidden and
    johnny on the spot macdrool was just too conveniently placed to be an accident, hamas are using the BBC as its propaganda mouthpiece, thank the Gods the hamas snatch failed is all I can say because if they had managed to grab an IDF soldier he would have suffered a terrible fate!

    How the BBC have fallen, a grubby dishonest mouthpiece for a gang of psychpathic killers and funded by the British people!

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  30. mikewineliberal says:

    slacker | 27.01.09 – 5:17 pm |

    Blow it out your @rse, you donkey molester.

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  31. martin says:

    Classic BBC crap. Beeboid interviews some thick northern union leader about crappy car bail out. Union leader spins that it’s great news and that the mess the car industry is in is all down to the Tories.

    I hadn’t noticed that the Tories had been in power for the last 12 years or that the Tories had put crushing taxes on the luxury car market like Landrover or Jaguar driving them almost out of business.

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  32. Terry Johnson says:

    Read the following headline at Al-BBC online and then scroll down three paragraphs or so for the truth…


    Israel launches attacks in Gaza

    Israel has carried out an air attack in the Gaza Strip and launched an incursion with tanks and bulldozers across the border.

    There is heavy fighting near Khan Younis in southern Gaza, with many people fleeing their homes.

    The incursion follows a bomb attack which killed one Israeli soldier and wounded three near the Gaza border. ”

    So, Hamas started this flare-up by killing an Israeli soldier but rather than headline the article..

    “Hamas break ceasefire”

    or

    “Hamas bomb kills Israeli”

    we have the hacks at Al-BBC using a headline that makes it sound that Israel attacked out of the blue. Al-BBC — never met a terrorist they didn’t like.

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  33. Grant says:

    Mikewine 5:01

    Kamm, very “civilsed”, but still writing garbage !

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  34. Grant says:

    Slacker 5:17
    Quite right. Kamm can’t even see the internal contradiction in what he has written. Pathetic !

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  35. mikewineliberal says:

    Grant – I thought most of his views (pro-israel, pro-iraq war, anti-chomsky, loathes tony benn) would appeal? I think he’s always worth reading. One of my top ten bloggers.

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  36. Ron Todd says:

    Martin

    The Uniom bod was Derek Simpson joint leader of UNITE.

    He is an ex commie on £200000 a year plus a big union house subsidised by his union members on which he pays a nominal rent.

    Americans put billions into American car companies our government wants to put billions into an Indian car company.

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  37. Grant says:

    Terry Johnson 5:26
    Spot on an absolute classic piece of BBC bias, designed to give the impression that Israel broke the “truce”.
    Really, the BBC are the lowest of the low, no shame at all.

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  38. Anonymous says:

    mikewineliberal | 27.01.09 – 5:35 pm |

    Check out the comments on Da Fink’s post. This one explains a lot:

    Both the BBC and the foreign office have the same problem. Living in Israel makes you more sympathetic to the Palestinians. The foreign office used to try and avoid this by only giving people short terms and by running courses to teach people about the blunt manner and abrupt use of languange by the Israelis.

    Posted by: rv | 26 Jan 2009 23:41:46

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  39. Grant says:

    Anon 5:37

    Yes, it must be a shock for Beeboids to meet people like the Israelis who speak straightforwardly and , mainly, the truth.
    Beeboids are much happier with Hamas and their lickspittles, like Chris Gunness and John Ging, who spout propaganda and lies. It is totally within a Beeboid’s comfort zone, makes them feel at home. Any Beeboids posted to Israel must feel like aliens, despite their life of luxury in the best hotels !

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  40. mikewineliberal says:

    Anonymous | 27.01.09 – 5:37 pm

    Yes, I read that. I wonder if living in Stamford Hill has a similar affect.

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  41. Mick McDonald says:

    Peter Wilson @ | 27.01.09 – 11:32 am |

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  42. NotaSheep says:

    I don’t normally “feed the troll” but MWL’s post at 6:15 speaks volumes.

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  43. Mick McDonald says:

    Sorry – finger trouble!!

    Peter Wilson | 27.01.09 – 11:32 am |

    I’ve long been curious about why the beeb and the sneering classes are so keen to enlighten us about “junk foods” (Big Macs, etc), yet thus far have strangely ingored this culinary delight.

    Must be because most kebab shops are run by 7th Day Adventists!

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  44. DB says:

    Justin Webb: “Many of my colleages – you know who you are – are not among the leading brains of their age. I am certainly not.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2009/01/the_case_for_brains_in_politic.html

    Heh.

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  45. Mugwump says:

    nrg | 27.01.09 – 4:59 pm

    Yeah, love the blink-and-you’ve-missed-it reference to the Hamas cease-fire violation. Except of course it isn’t described as a Hamas or Palestinian attack at all. It was just a ‘bomb attack’ — apparently not carried out by anybody.

    I’ll wager even al-Jazeera’s coverage was clear as to who was responsible for starting this latest round.

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  46. David Preiser (USA) says:

    mikewineliberal | 27.01.09 – 5:35 pm |

    I thought most of his views (pro-israel, pro-iraq war, anti-chomsky, loathes tony benn) would appeal? I think he’s always worth reading. One of my top ten bloggers.

    Do you realize that you’ve just insulted everyone’s intelligence? Again?

    The implication is that, simply because Kamm holds other views with which people here may be sympathetic, we’ll automatically agree with everything he says.

    Not cool, but it does reveal your actual opinion of us.

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  47. martin says:

    Terry Johnson: Do you really expect the BBC to give us the truth these days?

    The truth is what some drug addled Beeboid thinks.

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  48. martin says:

    Ron Todd: Yes Simpson. That was the tosspot. Just like Arthur Scargill idiots like him will lead the workers over the cliffs.

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  49. mikewineliberal says:

    NotaSheep | 27.01.09 – 6:21 pm

    No it doesn’t. I lived in
    stamford hill, that’s all Didn’t have that affect on me.

    David Preiser (USA) | 27.01.09 – 6:34

    You really are the pompous arses’ pompous arse sometimes. My comment was addressed to Grant’s apparent disdain for Mr Kamm; someone I thought he’d quite like.

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