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  1. Mailman says:

    I keep the race card up my sleeve if I ever need something…Ill just shout from the roof tops that Im a muslim 😉

    Albert, I am eternally greatful for what this country has done for me. I come here and all I see is opportunity around me. Just a pity a significant section of society cant see past its own created victimhood!

    Also, re global warming. The great BENEFIT from this is that as the planet warms up, Britain will transition from an indoor, pub related society (Coronation Street) to an out door, mobile society that will reflect what (Neighbours).

    This HAS to be a good thing for this country? Imagine the health benefits to having a society that can enjoy the great outdoors because its sunny for 361 days of the year! 🙂

    Mailman

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  2. Mailman says:

    Martin,

    I think the bigger question here is…where has all the north sea oil money gone?

    Surely someone has to hold an enquiry in to this?

    Mailman

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  3. Martin says:

    Mailman: Rent boys and drugs I’m guessing!

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  4. DB says:

    Re Peter | 17.06.08 – 5:17 pm |
    Jack Bauer | Homepage | 17.06.08 – 5:24 pm |

    Beaufoy: “A warming planet isn’t just a threat • it’s happening.”
    Later in the same BBC press release:
    “Simon Beaufoy was intent on making the facts that appear in Burn Up as accurate as possible. He explains: ‘I did a huge amount of research.'”
    And yet he still missed the info about temperatures not rising for a decade, apparently.

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  5. Martin says:

    Mailman: There is an argument that any global warming will cut the number of people who die from the cold and make areas of the world that at the moment are too cold to live in more habitable. As with most things there are positives and negatives and the same applies to climate change.

    Interesting that when that garage was charging £2 a litre people were still paying for it. That means McBean knows there is a lot more that can be screwed out of people yet.

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  6. NotaSheep says:

    I thought I’d make you aware that the BBC are reporting that “Israeli police say they have arrested two Jewish settlers over an apparent assault of Palestinians that was filmed as part of a human rights project.

    An adult male and a minor were arrested in Susia settlement overnight and will appear in court on Tuesday.”

    You can read this here.

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  7. cassis says:

    Mailman

    “I keep the race card up my sleeve if I ever need something…Ill just shout from the roof tops that Im a muslim”

    That didn’t do the BBC’s Frank Gardner any good, did it?.

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  8. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Once again, the BBC displays ignorance and spouts drivel about the US:

    What the UK can teach US cities

    I suppose this was inspired by the recent meeting of the minds between Boris and Bloomberg. But the Beeboid who produced this little piece is writing more out of imagination than reality.

    It seems that the UK has done rather well with various urban renewal projects, instigated by a Conservative, but strikingly realized by three Labour heroes. They have much to teach the US.

    The categories:

    “Tackle Gridlock” – Obviously Ken’s congestion charge is a success. Even though there is some criticism, we can tell because Boris kept it in.

    “Keep Town and City Centres Alive” – City Centre development is a good thing for a variety of reasons, and the UK has done well in this regard. However, unbeknownst to the BBC, even with all those resources, many cities in the US have been doing serious downtown renewal projects for nearly two decades, in many cases long before 1996, and many of them have already turned out as success stories.

    “How To Beat Suburban Sprawl” – And who says irony is dead, eh?

    “Lavish Attention On Cities” – In case the part about renewing City Centres didn’t sink in, here are a couple more variations on the theme of “investment in cities is good”.

    So basically the BBC is too ignorant about the subject they’re covering to know that the US has already been doing everything they recommend from British examples. I’m not saying the US has nothing to learn – far from it. But this article has no clue what that might be. Other than a plug for the congestion charge, that is.

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  9. Sue says:

    PM did a piece about t’trouble at t’welsh assembly.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/06/israel.shtml

    Mohammed Asghar, who represents South Wales East, invited his assembly colleagues to the confidential meeting. {with Israeli Ambassador Ron Prosor} But Lord Elis-Thomas e-mailed the AMs calling on them to refuse to attend.
    Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas said he objected to Israel’s “failure to meet its international obligations” towards the Palestinians.

    Jerusalem Post was not surprised.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1212659723531&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    The bigotry may not surprise readers of The Jerusalem Post.
    Next February, the British Foreign Office, together with the Inter-Parliamentary Coalition for Combating Anti-Semitism, will host a conference on anti-Semitism for parliamentarians from around the world.
    The conference (…….) is intended to be an international response to “the longest hatred,” a hatred manifested most recently in the hysterical demonization of Israel with which Prosor has become so familiar.

    And which is generously contributed to by the BBC.

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  10. Impartial says:

    This person William Dalrymple, is he anti-Israeli?, I was reading the Sunday Times book review and came across his critique of a book about to be released called ‘Paradise Lost, Symyrna 1922: The Destruction of Islam’s City of Tolerance’.

    I quote some of Dalrymple’s observations from his piece : “Lloyd George hated Muslims, and especially the Turks”, “Casually handed over Palestine to the Zionist movement”, then goes on to blame the Greeks and the West for the destruction of Smyrna rather than the Turks, and accuses the Greeks of countless atrocities whilst glossing over the Armenian Genocide carried out by the Turks.

    He then finishes his article by blaming the secular policies of Ataturk and the influence of the West for the “bloody unravelling of Kosovo, Bosnia, Cyprus, Palestine and Anatolia”.

    The reason I ask who is this man is I could have sworn that I have heard him presenting a radio show on the BBC?.

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  11. gus says:

    David Preiser, the problem with the Marxism we are now seeing in American politics, is that the main stream media takes the any liberals “premise” as fact or gospel.
    e.g.
    Global warming crisis.
    (total horse shit)
    We choose to live in the suburbs for various reasons. Crime, quality of life, etc etc etc etc.
    Liberals have taken the position that “sprawl” is bad. (again Horse shit).
    Conservatives are too chicken shyte to fight back.
    There is no climate crisis.
    Cities are rife with crime and dysfunction.
    Yet the media starts from the liberal perspective and conclusion.
    I don’t.
    The sky is not falling, and I’ll drive whatever the f@#$ type of vehicle I choose, to wherever the hell I choose to live.

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  12. Sue says:

    NotaSheep | 17.06.08 – 6:32 pm
    so excited were they at the Beeb, that they got quite carried away, casting all proof reading to the-the-the-whind.

    “He said police were examining the footage closely. They were inquiring into the (sic) whether there had been any “provocation” for the apparent attack and whether all the Palestinians in the footage where(sic) indeed shepherds.”

    Whell, where they or wheren’t they?

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  13. Steve Edwards says:

    “However, the Home Office is actively pursueing a policy of restricting access to the UK from the former colonies (NZ, Australia and SA, to a certain extent).”

    It’s crazy, and most people feel a kindred bond with the Anglosphere and the white Commonwealth that they would never feel for Turkey or Pakistan. We need to get out of Europe so we can get our priorities straight.

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  14. Martin says:

    You just have to love this crap from Robert Peston ” A letter to the Governor”

    Funny if you read through it you could be excused for thinking this entire mess is all the fault of the Bank of England.

    But just who was “prudence” who pissed away billions on unreformed public services?

    Who screwed the pensions scheme out of billions?

    Who racked up stealth taxes?

    Who doubled council taxes?

    Who has been racking up fuel duty?
    Who has given away billions to Africa?

    Well the great clunking fist that’s who.

    But funnily enough here’s where all those that said what a great idea it was to allow the Bank of England to set interest rates (especially the BBC) now see the folly.

    Gordon Brown is able to point the finger at the BoE for not controlling HIS failed economic policies!!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/

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  15. Biodegradable says:

    The BBC, propaganda wing of Hamas:

    Israel and Hamas ‘agree truce’
    Israel and militant group Hamas have agreed to end months of bitter clashes with a truce starting on Thursday, Palestinian officials say.

    Israeli officials said they were “looking to see if this is serious”.

    Israeli officials stress that phone lines to Cairo are “still running hot”.

    Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said: “Words are important, deeds much more so.

    “If indeed we see an end of hostile terrorist attacks from Gaza into Israel, if indeed we see the end to the Hamas military build-up inside the Gaza Strip, if indeed we see movement on the issue of our hostage Gilad Shalit, then of course it’ll be an entirely new situation.”

    Hold the front page!!!

    Barak: It is still too early to announce a Gaza cease-fire
    Following reports that a Gaza truce would start on Thursday morning, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said it was early to announce that a cease-fire had been agreed upon.

    “We are examining the possibility of reaching a truce in the coming days, but it is still too early to report [that a deal has been struck],” Barak said at a convention in Beit Yehoshua.

    “When a truce takes effect, if it ever does, it is hard to estimate how long it will last. The test will be implementing the truce and making the most out of the opportunity,” said the defense minister.

    Government spokesman Mark Regev would also not confirm or deny a deal.

    “What is important is not only words but deeds,” Regev said. “If there is a total absence of terror attacks from Gaza into Israel and if there is an end to arms buildup in Gaza Strip and movement on the hostage Gilad Schalit that will indeed be a new reality.”

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  16. gus says:

    Yes, I trust the Muzistinians. Sure I do.
    Anyone stupid enough to believe this crap should be shot on sight.
    There will be no cessation in Muslims shelling and shooting at Jews.
    To believe otherwise requires you to be RETARDED or LIBERAL. (is there a difference)

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  17. Anonymous says:

    Just came across this comment on the BBC HYS on armies, http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&forumID=4962&edition=1&ttl=20080617193820&#paginator

    “With around 6 million Muslims currently living in France and the number of Muslims in Europe rapidly rising, is this really the time to be cutting back on troop numbers?

    Aussie Pride, Cronulla, Australia ”

    This is the highest reccomended comment?….What a world we live in, its so sad that youre condemning an ENTIRE RACE because it includes some misguided fools, dont you understand how much hatred and anger a comment like this generates?

    Greg, London ”

    What is interesting about this comment is that I can now no longer find any evidence of Aussie Pride’s original post. It clearly has been deleted. Not only is this left wing twat Greg got his head in the sand concerning Islam, he thinks it is a race, and not what it really is, the ramblings of a common man about life and culture and socio-economics of 7th century Arabia.

    The BBC by allowing his post, and removing Aussie Pride’s, clearly endorse this sickening wrong left wing view.

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  18. gus says:

    Some thoughts are allowed others aren’t.
    The KGBBC will tell you which thoughts you are allowed to post.
    Not all Germans were bad during WWII.
    Not all Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.
    Not all Muslims are nasty hateful jihadists.

    All Conservatives are bad.

    See a pattern?

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  19. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Can someone explain to me what Robert Peston might be driving at other than a demand for wealth re-distribution in his latest “Peston’s Picks”?

    Letter to the governor

    He complains about the current economic situation, and how many people are experiencing a cost-of-living increase. So has Peston: since his mortgage has become devalued he no longer has wealth. That sound you hear is the world’s tiniest violin playing a sad tune to express my sympathy for him.

    He says that it’s wrong for the government to say people should learn to deal with an increase in their living costs, and fantasizes that the government actually has the ability to give everyone a pay rise to cover it instead.

    He then gives the game away: “at the risk of seeming mean-spirited, I can’t help but notice that the impact of these economic difficulties seems very unevenly shared.”

    His copy of Das Kapital must be very dog-eared indeed. Except he seems to have misunderstood the part about the Fetishism of Commodities.

    If this fool is the business editor for the BBC, what chance does anyone have?

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  20. NotaSheep says:

    Sue 7pm: Well spotted and still not corrected

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  21. gaping maw says:

    “David Preiser (USA) | 17.06.08 – 9:11 pm ”

    the ONLY lever of control that the Bank of England has is two areas…

    1. the money supply
    2. interest rates

    note how Robert Peston doesnt mention lowering taxation levels as a possible stimulus.

    and then he lets his emotions get the better of him by writing:

    “I am not going to repeat the bloomin’ obvious about all those millions earned by supposedly brilliant bankers in the City – whom, it turns out, were in part responsible for the credit-crunch part of the mess.”

    err. Robert – in case you haven’t noticed, they’re now losing their jobs , at a rate going on for around 2,000 to 3,000 PER WEEK…

    but of course, you in your nice big fat taxpayer funded BBC job will never know what a P45 is. unlike you, those bankers took the risk, and now they are paying the bbc.

    unlike risk-free BBC… all paid for my the likes of me and readers of this blog.

    and then the creme de la creme:
    “Right now I haven’t got the time to work out who to blame for what’s gone wrong.”

    fuck me. so the ECONOMICS EDITOR of the fucking BBC doesnt “have time” to figure out who’s to blame for the current mess?

    what the hell is he doing all day – pissing about on solitaire?

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  22. gaping maw says:

    sorry, stupid typo

    “and now they are paying the bbc.”

    should be
    “and now they are paying the price”…

    freudian slip maybe. but since they’ll still have a telly on the dole, they’ll still be paying the bloody BBC..

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  23. Martin says:

    David Preiser: Aa I mentioned in my post above yours, Peston makes no reference to the clunking fist of McBean who has bankrupted this country. Pissing billions away on failing public services that need root and branch reform. The very thing people like Frank Field have been talking about.

    Labour don’t seem to care, they simply kept returning to the well of money every time they ran short. Problem is the well has run dry and the BBC don’t seem to point the finger at Bean. Big him up in the good times (when the UK just rode along on the policies put in place by the last Tory Government and a world economy on the up) and just blame that thick American chimp called “Boosh” when it all goes bad.

    Instead of putting something aside Broon and Bliar pissed every penny away of the public services, the index linked pensions and failed IT schemes.

    But not a penny from wankers like Peston. Blame the Bank of England instead.

    Utter shite from another BBC moron.

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  24. simon says:

    Biodegradable | 17.06.08 – 7:29 pm

    Yes, Bio-D, by publishing the Hamas press release version that there is, in fact, a truce, as a headline, even though it is not confirmed by Israel, the BBC invariably will have free reign to blame Israel should the truce be “violated” or even “not agreed to” ultimately.

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  25. gaping maw says:

    President Bush today presented a farewell gift to the BBC, as part of his “goodbye” tour to Europe.

    He is of course, deeply troubled with the various beeboids being shafted with sky high mortgages and negative equity.

    pic here:

    http://blogs.citypages.com/canderson/images/smallestviolin.jpg

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  26. Martin says:

    I know this has been reported on but did anyone know who actually paid for this poxy thing?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghouse/memorial/index.shtml

    Normally if people want a memorial to dead colleagues they raise the money through charity.

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  27. gaping maw says:

    Mr Vance -> i am now i the middle of re-reading Robert Pestons piece for about the fourth time.

    it’s staggering. read it yourself. and note how Gordon Brown gets off the hook. as i said – staggering…

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  28. gaping maw says:

    “Martin | 17.06.08 – 10:15 pm”

    yeah – i caught that on the Today programme this week.

    they like to weap about themselves, all at our expense.

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  29. NotaSheep says:

    Why do the BBC always describe Simon Mann as an old Etonian? Do the BBC mention the old schools of all people in the news or just if they are from Eton? I must declare here and now that I did not go to Eton, although I have eaten out in Windsor.

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  30. Martin says:

    Notice on the BBC website they are quick to highlight that the blame for the data being on Blear’s computer is with officials and not the poisoned dwarf herself.

    But hang on. If Blear’s knew these files should not have been emailed out why did she not delete them from her computer striaght away and then report the fact that procedures had been breached?

    How many other Ministers have received documents this way?

    And what is it with tihs Government that they don’t seem to be able to do what others do and have a system where documents have be viewed only but not printed, downloaded or saved?

    Come on BBC we need Michael Prick on the case.

    Peter Hain anyone?

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  31. Martin says:

    Notasheep: They igonre the fact that Bliar and Harman are “toffs”. Only Tories can be seen as evil public school bastards. Didn’t you know that?

    Detention for you sunshine!!

    Go and write out “Nicki Campbell is the best presenter in the world” 1000 times!

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  32. Martin says:

    Ha!!

    Fucking BBC. They just did a piece about Boris Johnson looking at the Olympic costings and he’s not a happy bunny.

    That halfwit BBC reporter said “Johnson wants to get the bad news out fast so he doesn’t get the blame”

    It was fucking Livingstone and the Labour cronies that fucked this whole project up, not Boris Johnson.

    Can’t wait to see the BBC spin this for Labour!

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  33. David says:

    I apologise if it has been mentioned elsewhere, but has anyone read the Radio Times preview of BBC4’s ‘Jews’ which starts tomorrow night:

    A choice quote:

    “…round the Orthodox enclave of Stamford Hill in north London, detailing its insularity and conservatism. Gawp-worthy titbits abound: schooling stops at 14! Women wear wigs to stop men lusting after their real hair, and put a hat on top! The obvious question is why and how often people break out of these devotional shackles.”

    This quote comes from the Radio Times, which is of course an arm of the BBC anyway. So the use of a phrase like ‘devotional shackles’ relating to Judaism isn’t a surprise. But the day the BBC makes a documentary that examines these things about Muslim strongholds in the inner-cities will be the day Valhalla falls to earth!

    http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=10&channelId=47&programmeId=79940217&jspLocation=/jsp/prog_details_fullpage.jsp

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  34. gus says:

    I think they’re saying that it’s better to eat than be ETON.

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  35. Reimer says:

    Mention was made of Laurie Taylor and R4’s ‘Thinking Allowed’ programme recently – I recall that the repulsive character of Howard Kirk in Malcolm Bradbury’s ‘the History Man’ was apparently based on this fellow (according to LT’s own account). During a ‘TA’ programme about Amsterdam a few years back every hare-brained uber-liberal scheme going was pored over lovingly (eg a junkies’ council).

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  36. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Martin | 17.06.08 – 9:54 pm |

    Sorry, I didn’t see your comment or I wouldn’t have done mine, or at least wouldn’t have written what I did. I guess I didn’t hit Refresh or something.

    This isn’t the first time we’ve seen Peston struggling out of his depth, and falling back on pseudo-populist neo-Marxism to get around it.

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  37. Reimer says:

    Wonder if Marcus will be contributing to this little gem?

    “The Little Red Schoolbook

    Wednesday 18 June 2008 11:00-11:30 (Radio 4 FM)

    Jolyon Jenkins recalls the small paperback published in 1971 which advised children about sex, drugs and how to assert their rights at school. Although banned as an obscene publication, the book continued to be distributed by radical groups, becoming something of a cause celebre in the process.”

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  38. Martin says:

    David Preiser: They are talking about it on Newsnight right now. Yvette Cooper has just made the most pathetic defence of the Government.

    Paxman didn’t seem to ask he why not slash public spending. After all “we” the great unwashed British public are expected to tighten our belts and cut back whilst Broon carries on spending my taxes.

    Slash public spending on schools and Social services and cut fuel duty.

    Easy. Problem solved.

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  39. gaping maw says:

    devils kitchen had some figures a few months ago that inferred that if they completely abolished income tax, it would push government spending back to …

    2001 levels.

    yes, its that staggering. must dig up the link.

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  40. gaping maw says:

    “Come on BBC we need Michael Prick on the case.

    Peter Hain anyone?
    Martin | 17.06.08 – 10:27 pm”

    he’s on now.

    newsnight.

    a “personal computer” was stolen. hmm.. strange wording. maybe they really mean “laptop”…

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  41. moonbat nibbler says:

    What a gutless performance by Paxman. A quick glance at the RPI figures would show that in December 2006, prior to the boom in commodity prices, inflation was higher than at any time since 1991.

    Pathetic that Mrs Balls was given such an easy ride.

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  42. gaping maw says:

    found it

    devil’s kitchens “abolish income tax and ton of other taxes” expose…

    http://devilskitchen.me.uk/2007/10/dump-income-tax.html

    really does make you wonder where all the money is going.

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  43. Martin says:

    YesI just saw Prick on Newsnight. A man on the button.

    I’m actually starting to think Michael Prick is Hillhunt. Have they ever been seen blogging together?

    But Prick didn’t say that if Blears KNEW this stuff was on the computer and shouldn’t have been, why did she not delete it?

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  44. Martin says:

    moonbat nibbler: Yes and on the 10PM news the BBC talked about low inflation when Labour came to power. So who had sorted the economy out then? And the economy only went along well for the fist few years because the clunking fist handed over interest rates to someone else and followed Ken Clarke’s spending plans.

    It only went downhill when he started taxing everything we own. He’d tax taking a dump if he thought he could get away with it.

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  45. gaping maw says:

    martin -> they dont care about data security.

    having no data security creates “problems” which spurs “initiatives” and “consultations” which only the government can “solve”, via favourable “leaks” to the BBC…

    you should have figured it out by now surely?

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  46. gaping maw says:

    martin -> he’s already taxing dumps. it’s called landfill tax, which Brownstuff agreed to at the EU Council of Ministers.

    (and which he swats away by making the media say its “those pesky Brussels Eurocrats” – when HE HIMSELF agreed to it…)

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  47. Martin says:

    gaping maw: Well they spend a frigging fortune on consultants and IT systems. You think they could at least get that right!!!

    How come Sony can put copy protection on CD’s etc but the world 5th largest ecocomy can’t?

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  48. David Preiser (USA) says:

    In case anybody’s still wondering why the BBC will soon inundate you all with Obamessiah propaganda (aside from the fact that in the BBC mind it’s still a fight to defeat George Bush), here’s the latest evidence, and one of the main reasons why I won’t vote for him:

    Obama Plans Spending Boost, Possible Cut in Business Tax

    Ignore the headline, as the first part is true but the second is a false promise.

    Obama doesn’t like the fact the the US is becoming what he calls a “winner-take-all economy”, where the gains from economic growth skew heavily toward the wealthy.

    It gets worse:

    “Globalization and technology and automation all weaken the position of workers,” [Obama] said, and a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably.

    Of course, there is the usual Leftoid hypocrisy, which will nevertheless be blindly accepted by his followers, as he is their savior and their better:

    He spoke aboard his campaign bus, where a big-screen TV was tuned to the final holes of the U.S. Open golf tournament.

    No gains from globalization, technology, or economic growth on evidence there, then. Or, after the election, will he re-distribute all that stuff to the proletariat?

    Serendipitously, this took place in the town where Michael Moore was spawned: Flint, Michigan. Maybe Obama and Peston can share notes on Marx & Engels sometime.

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  49. PacificRising says:

    The Public Defender
    Wanna stop paying tv tax or even income tax? Have a look at this: http://www.tpuc.org/

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  50. Peter says:

    “Paxman didn’t seem to ask he why not slash public spending. After all “we” the great unwashed British public are expected to tighten our belts and cut back whilst Broon carries on spending my taxes.”

    So does Pasxo.

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