The news that Iraq plans to significantly increase it’s oil production in the next year or so is being hailed by the BBC this evening as conclusive evidence that THIS is what motivated the US invasion. If only! The BBC are real truthers on this – incapable or unwilling of understanding that removing the Saddamite thugocracy was virtuous in itself! It is such an insult to all those brave servicemen and women – US and UK – who have made the ultimate sacrifice trying to give Iraqis a shot at democracy to put it all down to a lust for cheap oil. But since when did the BBC care about our military….
MORE OIL FOR BLOOD.
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Pot-Kettle-Black | 02.07.08 – 2:25 pm |
Okay, I misunderstood that you thought it was a good idea, but I still disagree with you that the Arabs and Muslims won’t take after an example of a democracy in their midst.
David Preiser
I’m not saying there aren’t some majority muslim countries that at least sort of lean towards democracy – Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan, but none of the Arab middle eastern ones do.
Yes they might take after the example in their midst, but it is highly improbable, and the planners ought to have taken it into consideration.
As it is most of those middle eastern arab countries seem to view democracy as anti islamic and pro western and Iraq makes a bad example to them rather than a good one, granted in time that may improve, I do remain highly skeptical of that.
“The WMD excuse was the last resort of the Bushies”
No it certainly wasn’t, and for someone currently in the USA you really should know that. Bush made little secret of the fact that he intended to get rid of Saddam. Problem was that almost no other nation could join the US in that, including the UK, because many of those nations had already signed up to the latest Geneva convention which explicitly stated that starting a war to achieve a regime change was a war crime and those responsible would find themselves at a war crimes tribunal at the Hague. Thus another more obvious “threat” had to be invented to cover the actions of those nations that found themselves in this unfortunate position. Whilst it was clear to the one and only UK investigator Dr David Kelly that the UK was under no such threat at all, Tony “nice but dim” Blair was only too happy to use the threat of WMDs as an excuse to go to war against Iraq. As Kelly started to reveal his unease to journalists, he suddenly came to an untimely end, which now appears to have been murder but was originally claimed to be suicide. And who made those claims that it was suicide? Members of the establishment that considered themsleves so convinved that it was suicide that no inquest or autopsy was necessary to discover the true facts despite numerous claims from eye-witnesses that it could not have been suicide.
It is a pretty foul mess, and if the media were anything but right up the establishments backside in this nation we would all know about the sordid details by now.
Ryan | 03.07.08 – 11:57 am |
I meant that the WMD threat was the last resort the Bush Administration tried to convince everyone else to go along for the ride. Nobody wanted to do regime change back when Poppy Bush pushed Sadaam out of Kuwait and Kurdistan and all that, and nobody wanted to do it when Bush fils went around asking the next time. Nobody thought the “moral case” was a valid reason for a Republican to engage in regime change (especially one who had defeated the beloved AlGore, and whom too many fools believed stolen the election).
I don’t deny that Bush was looking to settle an old family score from Day One. Sorry I wasn’t clear in my choice of words there.
The Democrats wanted rid of Saddam all throughout the 90’s. Here’s a stunning video of Al Gore criticizing the first George Bush for not doing enough to rid Iraq of someone he considered one of the greatest threats to the world.
Hmm. And now Gore thinks there was no need to get rid of Saddam, whom he now thinks wasn’t a threat at all.
Liberals like Gore are just shameless liars, that’s a fact!