It’s so touching, isn’t it? I refer to this article on the BBC portal concerning the news that GOP star Sarah Palin’s family is human after all and that her 17 year old daughter is ..gasp horror…pregnant. B-BBC favourite Justin Webb weighs in pointing out that this news “may” not hurt her politically although this is immediately followed by the suggestion that there may be other skeletons in the Palin closet. But here’s the thing; why does the BBC not compare the Palins reaction to the news that their daughter is pregnant (They call the pregnancy a blessing) with what Obama thinks such a pregnancy would mean to him (He calls such a pregnancy a punishment). Here is the link. Surely THAT is a story? Also, when we are at it, where is the BBC when it comes to the news reported elsewhere that Dem V-P nominee Joe Biden reckons Israel better get used to a nuclear Iran? It seems to me that the BBC is so preoccupied with its own toxic narrative (The US must elect a black democrat to the White House) that many more interesting stories get dropped. On purpose.

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  1. Martin says:

    Webb is a wanker. As we know he gets his “information” from loonie tunes sites like the Daily Kos and the Democrats press releases.

    The other stories you mention, well one in particular that came up here relates to Alam Colmes accusing Sarah Palin of creating her disabled child by not getting correct medical care.

    Try to find the story now and the little skinny shit has removed it, but it’s still cached and I posted a link to it.

    The BBC are getting caught up in this. It’s accepted on all sides that people’s children are off limit.

    I don’t remember the BBC suggesting that Ewan Blair being a piss head would be an important election issue?

    It’s funny that the BBC have run this as the only news from the Republican party convention. No mention that Laura Bush is speaking tonight (compare that to the ejaculation from Webb and Frei when Michelle Osama opened her gob) and that Laura Bush is highly popular with the American people, which probably explains WHY the BBC ignored her.

    Fox News have interviews with several of the key Republican people, the BBC? Tumbleweed.

    Bill Kristol and Kirsten Powers have both said leave it alone and the Democrats won’t go near it. It could easily be seen as attacking someone and backfire on the Democrats.


  2. archduke says:

    in the twisted logic of the bbc , palin’s daughter having a baby out of wedlock is a “problem”.

    nothing of the sort – aborting the baby would be BIG political problem.

    via LGF – James Dobson, head of Focus on the Family, has made a statement on it. and he supports Palin and her family and thinks they’ve made the right decision.

    so thats the christian evangelicals sorted out.

    what is this “problem” Mr Webb? oh right – there isnt one – because you never bothered to even ASK anyone from the christian right about it. oh i see…


  3. archduke says:

    martin -> justin webb is at the same RNC conference as Hugh Hewitt and Denis Prager – BOTH those guys are there.

    THEY would have told him how excited the repub base is about palin. those guys know the base – they live it – they breath it. they KNOW the base…

    instead we got webb poo pooing her selection on the ten o clock news.

    not a hint of the excitement over palin. not a whisper.


  4. Martin says:

    archduke: Spot on. If Palin had been caught trying to arrange an abortion on the quiet, that would have been an issue, not because of he family but because it would show double standards.

    But she hasn’t. I really don’t see what the issue is here, other than the media being anti Republican and in my view highly sexist.


  5. archduke says:

    i’m shocked at the sexist attacks from the left that have emerged today. this is personal and vile – but then, what do expect from a bunch of commies.

    hello bbc ? bill ayers? heard that name yet?

    you sure will in october. mccain will make DAMN sure that america will know that name.


  6. archduke says:

    i swear to god – the bbc’s reportage of the repubs is woeful.

    folks – if you want a lowdown, go grab or listen online to hugh hewitt , rush lumbaugh or denis prager.

    then you’ll get a sense of whats happening over there.

    i could do a better job than justin webb’s comical obama-arse-licking “journalism”.


  7. Job says:

    So when are they going to publish a ‘blow by blow’ account of Obama’s skeletons?


  8. archduke says:

    skeletons? he’s got a friggin GRAVEYARD of skeletons.

    lets start with bill ayers, obama and the $100 million that was frittered away on favoured leftie “causes” in chicago. oh boy – and thats just for starters…


  9. JohnA says:

    No sizeable bounce for Obama :

    No disaster from Hurricane Gustav, apparently. Plus it cut out any need for Bush and Cheney (rather toxic these days) to be seen at the Repub convention.

    Tomorrow the Repub convention looks likely to start in earnest.

    Tomorrow, full and fair “BBC” coverage of the Repub convention is unlikely to start in earnest.

    Palin speaks on Wednesday, I believe. She and McCain are now drawing record crowds – maybe a big audience on Wednesday ?

    And if Palin gives a good speech (and why shouldn’t she ?) stressing her POSITIVE abilities and record, the Repub base will be even more energised, and maybe some independents will be won over.

    Won’t it be odd if all we hear from the “BBC” gang of wasters is negative comments on the Repubs. And then there is a sizeable post-convention bounce ? And all the polls inevitably ignore the Bradley effect – and many of the polls are skewed with Dem over-polling.

    Cognitive dissonance ?

    I just heard a super example of how out-of-step the “BBC” is. The gave second headline of the 11pm Radio 4 news to Bristol Palin’s pregnancy. Is that really big news for a UK audience ? But apparently without seeing how ridiculous they are, they followed it with a soundbite from Obama – reminding people that his own mother was unmarried when he was conceived – and saying that people need to lay off Palin’s child, indeed all the candidates’ children.

    Why didn’t any of the “BBC” editorial staff see that Obama’s remarks they were broadcasting were an implicit slap at the “BBC”‘s own prurience ? They really are stupid at White City.


  10. Anonymous says:

    why is it the BBC always push the question that Palin was in charge of 9,000 people in Wallis, as this isn’t enough to be picked as a VP, and forget that Obama has NEVER been in charge of anything in his whole life? I literally just saw it mentioned on newsnight… Thankfully a republican was on side to put them right.


  11. gunnar says:

    Hi David,

    Can’t really see what is wrong with the BBC article you linked to.

    In terms of Obama’s reaction you link to Michelle Malkin, which in turn is lifted from Politico. Wonder what happened to the route source, since you are not into biased reporting.

    Anyway, even Malkin copies that the quote was with regards to sex education rather than abstinence only education.

    Interestingly, Sarah Palin seemed to have supported abstinence only education:

    Personally, I do not know how her daughter was educated, but no one can say, that being pregnant with 17 is ideal. Frankly, I feel rather sorry for her.

    However, I am glad that you are rather thoughtfull about teenage pregnancies.

    David, how you now bring Biden into the equation is beyound me. You link to Haaretz (I thought that paper was liberal and not to be trusted?), which in turn report on a piece by Michael Rubin in the Washington Post.

    Wonder why you did not link to the Jerusalem Post:

    A spokesman for US Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Biden on Monday scathingly rejected an Army Radio report which claimed Biden told Jerusalem officials three years ago that he firmly opposed an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities and that Israel would likely have to come to terms with a nuclear Iran.

    ‘Biden’s position on Iran has Israel concerned’

    “This is a lie peddled by partisan opponents of Senators Obama and Biden and we will not tolerate anyone questioning Senator Biden’s 35-year record of standing up for the security of Israel,” Biden’s press secretary, David Wade, said in a statement.

    “Joe Biden’s first trip as a senator was to Israel. He has worked with every Israeli leader from Golda Meir to Prime Minister Olmert, and he takes a back seat to no one when it comes to protecting the relationship between Israel and the US,” Wade added. “Senator Biden has consistently stated – publicly and privately – that a nuclear Iran would pose a grave threat to Israel and the United States and that we must prevent a nuclear Iran.”

    Wade noted that only two months ago, in a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations committee – which Biden he heads – the senator reiterated his long-held view on this subject by stating that “Iran’s acquisition of a nuclear weapon would dramatically destabilize an already unstable region and probably fuel a nuclear arms race in the region. It is profoundly in our interest to prevent that from happening.”

    The Army Radio report asserted that Biden had expressed doubt over the effectiveness of economic sanctions imposed on Iran. The report also said Biden was against the opening of an additional military and diplomatic front, saying that the US had more pressing problems, such as North Korea and Iraq.

    The Army Radio report was unsourced and did not name any of the officials to whom Biden had purportedly spoken.

    Biden has a solid 36-year Senate record of pro-Israel leadership. He has called Israel “the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East” and declared himself a Zionist in an interview with a US Jewish television channel last year, saying that “you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”


  12. archduke says:

    emily mathis is at the RNC on newsnight now.

    doing a good job to be honest. allowing the Repub to answer at length to her Dem inspired questions.

    which is fair enough.

    interesting – like justin’s webbs report – they are now showing a black repub and then some white folks with cowboy hats.


  13. archduke says:

    david -> gunnar has a point about biden. biden is known to make gaffes – even the RNC has a “biden gaffe” countdown clock on their site!

    i’d put it down to a gaffe. nothing more.

    then again – if he’s gaffe prone , how the hell is he suitable for VP?


  14. JohnA says:

    I am less concerned about Biden’s record on Israel – although it is not as rock-solid as gunnar claims, especially his attitude towards Iran.

    I am far more concerned about the anti-Israel views of quite a few of Obama’s own set of policy advisors.

    Thereis nil chance that the terms “appeasement” and “defeatism” can be attahed to the McCain campaign. There is at least some chance that the terms will be effectively levelled at the Obama campaign. Their record on the surge looks pretty wierd.

    Has the “BBC” ever given proper coverage to the charge that Obama has tied himself in knots on the surge – and is still denying that it was effective ? Another hot issue sidestepped by their bias ?


  15. Martin says:

    Yes Maitlis let her Democrat thought slip when she said of Palin “she’s the Governor of 9000 people”

    No she was the mayor of a town of 9000. Alaska has a population of arounf 700,000 I think. It’s also one of the most important in the US for sources of energy.


  16. JohnA says:

    and again – did Biden get much more than 9,000 votes on his presidential run ?


  17. Martin says:

    JohnA: Osama is just another Bliar. He goes whichever way the wind blows.

    I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him and that would be even more difficult with Justin Webb and Matt Frei’s heads up his backside.


  18. Martin says:

    I know. The BBC big up Biden as a potential President. No he isn’t. No one in the Democtat party has ever wanted this blow hard as a potential leader. If they did, they’d have voted for him.


  19. archduke says:

    “Thankfully a republican was on side to put them right.
    Anonymous | 01.09.08 – 11:18 pm | ”

    unfortunately that repub didnt put the record straight. emily mathis’s question inferred that she’d only had 2 years experience.

    well – its a bit more than that.

    1992 -1996 : wassila city council
    1996-2002: mayor of wassila (two terms)
    2002: unsuccesful campaign for lieutenant governor of Alaska
    2003-2004: chaired the alaska oil and gas conservation commission
    2006: elected governor of alaska.


  20. JohnA says:

    The real damage to the Obama campaign among Jewish voters (eg in a swing state like Florida) will be the entirely fair question – why did Obama and his wife sit in their pews for 20 years listening to a rabid pastor preaching stuff that is inherently anti-Israel ?


  21. gunnar says:

    Hi JohnA,

    I make no claims about Biden’s record. I was just posting a report by the Jerusalem Post, questioning David’s choice of sourcing.


  22. archduke says:

    biden proposed that iraq be divided up into 3 sectarian countries – we’re talking severe levels of ethnic cleansing here… one sunni, one shia, and one kurd.

    its on record – he literally proposed the dismantling of iraq as a state. and not only that – the creation of three statelets run on sectarian lines.

    imagine if “darth vadar” cheney suggested that – they’d be all over it.

    instead, biden’s a dem. so he gets a free pass.


  23. archduke says:

    “gunnar | 01.09.08 – 11:35 pm”

    i would agree with you. maybe mr vance doesnt realise that biden is gaffe prone?

    however, as johnA points out – obama’s ties are the real deal. and far more worrying.


  24. archduke says:

    The senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee proposed Monday that Iraq be divided into three separate regions ā€” Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni ā€” with a central government in Baghdad.

    In an op-ed essay in Monday’s edition of The New York Times, Sen. Joseph Biden. D-Del., wrote that the idea “is to maintain a united Iraq by decentralizing it, giving each ethno-religious group … room to run its own affairs, while leaving the central government in charge of common interests.”


  25. archduke says:

    and the above isnt a gaffe. thats biden at his doo-lah-lee leftist best.

    “hey – lets create a situation where the iraqs are herded off into their religious zones. and so lets ensure that they hate each others guts forever more..”



  26. archduke says:

    by the way – i dont actually dislike biden as a person.

    he’s the nutty professor. the michael foot. the lefty nutjob who comes up with crazy shit, but means well, and it always end in disaster.

    yes, i could have a beer with him.
    he’s human. i like the guy on a personal level.

    but obama – well thats something else. thats Tony Blair. and we all know where that leads to.

    theres something inherently unpleasant about that man. he’s the Stalin, to Biden’s lefty, well meaning professor type.


  27. gunnar says:

    Hi archduke,

    Biden wrote this in 2006. Not exactly spectacular to describe what has largely already happened anyway.


  28. archduke says:

    yeah – but the difference is that the iraqis did that themselves.

    he was proposing that it would be IMPOSED by the american army.

    big difference.

    think policy making. just think about it.. imagine if was president and implemented it.


  29. JohnA says:

    I think Karl Rove had it to a T today. He described Obama as inexperienced – and Biden as a “big blowhard doofus”.


  30. archduke says:

    “It strikes me that having an outdoors woman who is willing to take on the good ol’ boys is something that might be well received in the Northeast,” Rove said.

    he’s referring to Vermont and New Hampshire. both with strong libertarian voter bases… says to me that Rove has acknowledged the mania over Ron Paul. he hasnt forgotten about that.

    smart guy..


  31. archduke says:

    just noticed this response on conhome to the dispatches docu aired tonight

    “Saudi, like any country, is a complex society. Please bear in mind that the king has to balance extreme state income against extreme challenges. Let us help the country to develop rather than see it as an enemy, particularly as the majority of the population are youngsters.

    I hope that is your opinion Ben. If it is not, you will incite the wrath of the pro-Islam wing of Ukip again.

    Posted by: Henry Mayhew – arab-positive | September 01, 2008 at 21:47”

    yeah right. saudi arabia is a “complex society”. beats me how a wahhabist society is “complex” – it damn simple – if you believe in allah , your ok. if you dont, then its chop chop square for you.

    not much evidence of being “complex” there.

    maybe complex is another word for “i really dont have a fucking clue and i’ll just lick the arse of the islamists and behave like a good dhimmi rather than blowing the crap out of them with an apache gunship”.

    pathetic. no wonder the tory party has sided with the obamessiah.


  32. Martin says:

    I’m looking forward to Hannity & Colmes tonight. You just know that that skinny little turd Colmes is gonna be there with a big grin on his face.

    I can see Sean Hannity having a right go if Colmes starts about Palin’s daughter.

    Just watched Mort Kondrake on the Fox New Panel dig himslef into a massive hole on the subject.


  33. Martin says:

    Saudi Arabia is a shithole. If they wanted to wipe out the troublemakers, the Government could do it in about 1 week.

    I wouldn’t give them the time of day. I had the chance to work in Saudi Arabia many years ago, I turned it down thank Allah!


  34. archduke says:

    thats why i’m banking on Sarah – she’ll open up ANWR. and McCain will kick off offshore drilling..

    much rather we were importing oil and gas from the U.S. than the likes of Putin and Saudi Arabia.

    if they elect obama , then you can bye bye to it. the EU certainly has no clue about energy independence.


  35. David says:


    Henry Mayhew is a UKIP member, not a Tory.

    Cameron has expressed enthusiasm for both candidates – as is common this situation – but has made it very clear that he’d work better with McCain. The Tories are far closer to McCain now than they were to Bush in 2004, where pretty much all of them were in Kerry’s bathtub.


  36. archduke says:

    btw – if you want to follow gustav from live american tv news feeds
    go here

    just mute or stop the channels you dont want to watch.


  37. archduke says:

    “David | 02.09.08 – 12:10 am ”

    thanks for clearing that up. was getting worried with all those photos of cameron and obama.

    i guess thats just protocol.


  38. Lurker in a Burqua says:

    Political Daughters

    Of course all those senior journalists and editors who self-importantly and onstentasiously held back on non-political news about young Ms Blair will do the same for young Ms Palin? It is the same principle right? They will won’t they?


  39. archduke says:

    “Lurker in a Burqua | 02.09.08 – 12:25 am ”

    wow. thats the first time that Guido has gone solid on that issue – its always been some sort of internet rumour for ages now.

    and yes folks – its a big story. all covered up by all of the media.


  40. JohnA says:

    I don’t watch Fox – but I just checked their website to get the latest news on the hurricane.

    There on the Fox News home page is mention that a 4th suspect is being charged in the Blair/Brown assassination affair. There is a pretty full report – attributed to Associated Press.,2933,414603,00.html

    I had heard nothing about this on Radio 4 – wich I have had on in the background much of today. Including the full 30 minutes at 1pm, plus PM at 5 and the 6pm news. And the midnight news just now.

    So I checked the “BBC” news homepage. Funny – no mention, not even a one-line link.

    I did find it as a one-line link on the BBC’s UK page – ie, not highlighted. The linked story is here :

    So – four men now charged in connection with a plot to kill Gordon Brown. And a fifth man still being interviewed.

    Sky’s news homepage has the story listed among the 5 top listed stories – with a photo for each. That is – Sky is giving it equal prominence with the Palin story and the hurricane story (plus the baby killed by an airgun and the sale of Man City).

    Am I wrong to think that the BBC is rather sotto voce on this alleged Muslim terrorism story ? I wonder why ? A threat to kill the PM surely warrants equality with the Palin story which Radio 4 has been headlining all day ???

    So why is the BBC burying it away ?


  41. JohnA says:

    Difference between Palin and Obama ?

    “One is little more than an elegant, attractive…sexy piece of eye candy.

    The other kills her own food”


  42. Martin says:

    I’ve been listening to up all night on 5 lite with Rod Sharp.

    A total and utter attack on Sarah Palin. So far 2 hours of left wing reporters telling us she’s a liar that she didn’t do this and she didn’t do that.

    Funny that the BBC didn’t pick over Osama’s voting record last week did they?

    They didn’t pick over or have some right wing journalists on to investigate Osama’s link to the Weathermen underground or Bill Ayres, or Reverand Wright or Father Flager.

    All last week it was what a nice arse Osama has and can a beeboid lick it clean.


  43. JohnA says:

    Further to my queries about why the “BBC” is sidelining the story about another man being charged for involvement in a Muslim terrorist plot to kill the Prime Minister – Sky still has the story in its top 5, Fox News in the US has the story listed on its home page, …….

    but the “BBC” has dropped the story entirely – even from the UK news page listings of stories. It never was on the main home page.

    Meanwhile there are zero stories about Obama and William Ayers anywhere ever on the “BBC” website :

    “BBC” – experts at deep-sixing stories they don’t like.


  44. Verity says:

    AS 11:18 said, “why is it the BBC always push the question that Palin was in charge of 9,000 people in Wallis,”?

    Good question, given that 9,000 people would be a good-sized company of which to be the CEO.

    Plus, she reduced taxes in Wasilla AND managed to attract new business to the city and made everyone just a little bit richer. A true conservative and my hat is off to her!

    Why is the BBC sneering? Oh, wait a minute …


  45. disillusioned_german says:

    I wonder how many Brits actually believe the crap Al Beeb is putting out… are there any polls that might give us a hint?


  46. JohnA says:

    Justin Webb’s blog is full of comments repeating the filthy rumour about Bristol Palin being Trig’s mother. Moderators – who needs them !


  47. disillusioned_german says:

    Well, Justin Webb is probably the bedfellow of Mr. Daily Kos… can’t remember his name. Sounds Greek but Adonis he certainly ain’t.

    They both look gay enough though. Throw Matt Frei into the mix and you’re going to have a nice threesome (puke).

    I hope Sarah (Palin) anticipated what kind of filth will be thrown toward her and her beautiful family.


  48. disillusioned_german says:

    Before I head to bed I need to recommend Bill O’Reilly:

    Admittedly, Barack Obama distanced himself eloquently from the anti-Palin attacks, but…

    … he was one of the Dem Politicians who went to the Daily Kos conference a while back.

    Will he distance himself from these morons or not? That’s the big question.


  49. JohnA says:


    I assume you mean Bill Oreilly’s piece suggesting it is time that Obama threw Kos under the bus ?

    Meanwhile on CNN the sage Bill Bennett ( formerly a Democrat) laid into the nasty prurience of Wolf Blitzer and CNN : The transcript is here :

    And Bill Kristol kept up the attack on


  50. JohnA says:

    Bill Kristol kept up the attack on the smears on Fox :