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i’ve got £1,000 cash in HBOS.
will be withdrawing tommorow and then go looking for krugerrands.
grimer -> lots of folks were reporting that today.
looks like they’ve put the clampers down to stop a run on the bank.
you might be stuck if you ask for it in cash over the counter. no doubt they have the processes in place for tommorow when theres a run on it.
i hope its not your life savings?
however, if you have time off work tommorow – might be worth a punt to go down to your local HBOS and get your cash back.
DO NOT REQUEST A BANK TRANSFER… just ask for the cash.
and then walk to whereever you want to lodge the cash in .. barclays, nationwide , etc.
i would bank it in nationwide. they’re a safe bet right now.
The Tories have hit 52%, with Labour at 24% in a new Ipsos/Mori poll.
I wonder if the BBC will mention it???
“They are the most disagreeable of people…Their insincerity? Can you not feel a sense of disgust at the arrogant presumption of superiority of these people? Superiority of intellect! Then, when it comes to practice, down they fall with a wallop not only to the level of ordinary human beings but to a level which is even far below the average.” Churchill (on leftists)
Could be talking about the BBC “commentators”.
Is it me or does Pestons voice on the radio make you switch off – he can’t even put a sentance together without umming and erring and repeating words – and when he starts chuckling to himself as he reads out yet another “bad news” story – I feel like strangling him.
Totally off topic I know but this is a gem…
McCain sings Streisand!
http://thatvideosite.com/video/6637
I think that Interactive Investor is online only, so I am at the mercy of their ‘systems’. I’ll keep trying this evening, but I don’t hold out much hope.
It isn’t my life savings, only a single year’s ISA allowance, but I’d still rather have it nicely tucked away in Nationwide.
archduke: Now is a good time to buy gold. There’splenty around. The fat one eyed jock flogged ours off when it was at shit bottom prices.
As for Nationwide. Must agree. I just got a new 2 year fixed rate at almost the same rate as the current one I have with them.
I don’t think mortage rates will come down even if the Bank of England rate drops. No one wants to lend.
I see the Bum Bandit Corporation just couldn’t resist another dig at McCain over the bail out of AIG.
McCain originally said he didn’t want it bailed out, but St Osama did.
Of course it’s the poor old Tax Payer that picks up the tab again.
Let the fuckers go to the wall. No one gives a shit when it’s a car company that goes down the pan.
Hi JohnA,
Many thanks for your post.
Incidentally, I agree with some of what you say, perhaps for different reasons though.
Agreed, the Webb and Frei are not great journalists and I would not miss them if they were to go somewhere else. However, neither of them is left-leaning or even marxist, as some people here seem to believe.
Also, the RCP site is a very good resource (for the poll) and the BBC could save a lot of bother linking to it. Not sure if there would be an issue about editorial content.
I also agree, that Palin and the Rep convention shifted the polls for a while. It seems that they are now converging and we have to see what happens over the next weeks. Both sides work on Public Opinion and some external events could result in huge shifts one way or the other.
The South Ossetia conflict and Obama’s holiday, for example shifted the polls for a while in McCain’s favour (afterall, he is widely seen as the “expert” on foreign affairs).
Another conflict, close to the election could do the trick again. On the other side, the current financial turmoil could help Obama. Guess the guys in the background will have a lot more information and analysis at hand than you and me. We can only watch the spectacle unfold and try to understand what is happening based on our limited information and bullshit detectors.
One thing seems pretty clear though, that in the end, there will be differences, marginal though, in US politics depending on who gets elected. Both candidates are basically appointed managers of USA plc. I can not believe, that the shareholders would contemplate to evelate someone in a managerial position who cannot be trusted to the business as requested.
In the meantime, enjoy the show.
PS: cheers back 😉
Let the fuckers go to the wall. No one gives a shit when it’s a car company that goes down the pan.
Martin | 17.09.08 – 10:15 pm | #
Another try, are you a closet commie or are you back to hyperbole?
Newsnight are tonight speculating about the end of capitalism rather than Labour’s problems. Maybe tomorrow they will cover the Ipsos-MORI opinion poll showing the Conservatives on 52%… maybe not!
Quiz time:
A few days ago we played a game to see if the party affiliation of a misbehaving Aussie politician could be gleaned only from the BBC’s reporting…
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2008/09/competition-time-again-this-time-its.html
Of course the answer to that quiz was Labour.
Now, from the other side of the political spectrum we have misbehaving Conservative politicians. It goes without saying that the BBC notes their party…but how many sentences does it take for the BBC to use the word “Conservative”?
Answer here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7619093.stm
What a joke. Why is George Osbourne on Newsnight getting attacked by Paxo for Labour fuck ups?
What on Earth are the Tories up to? Best to say nothing and let the fat one eyed jock (who NEVER puts himself up on Newsnight) and his glove puppet take the shit.
Oh and I’m getting very fed up with the BBC wanking on about Peston and his exclusive.
Shouldn’t he be investigated as to where his source came from? Yet another BBC journalist acting as official spokesman for Nu Liebour (we’ve had Marr announcing no election if you remember and Easton telling lies about the crine level)
gunnar: Are you a fucking wanker or what?
Agreed, the Webb and Frei are not great journalists and I would not miss them if they were to go somewhere else. However, neither of them is left-leaning…
:lol::lol:
gunnar: Are you a fucking wanker or what?
Martin | 17.09.08 – 10:50 pm | #
Surely, I would be doing one or the other. Happy to take your advise on what you’d recommend.
Perhaps, having your pie and eat it?
gunnar | 17.09.08 – 10:29 pm |
Agreed, the Webb and Frei are not great journalists and I would not miss them if they were to go somewhere else. However, neither of them is left-leaning or even marxist, as some people here seem to believe.
You must be joking. Both Frei and Webb have espoused the leftist credentials a hundred times over. One does not advocate for a Clinton Presidency if one isn’t left-leaning. And make no mistake: Frei Boy has said on air, while in the anchor’s chair, that the best thing would be a Clinton Presidency. Webb is on record several times – as a few people here have pointed out just the other day – as stating his skepticism towards conservative politics, and he also plugs for the Left on nearly every issue.
Your credibility is on dangerously thin ice if you want to continue claiming that either of them are not Left-leaning. If you do, you will be denying statements that both of them have made on air, not to mention in official BBC written articles (Webb’s blog doesn’t count, as the BBC pretends that those blogs are for personal expression and are never, ever, evidence – in any way that anyone could possibly imagine – of any personal bias they may bring to their jobs. Excepting, of course, when a scoop to make Mr. Brown look good is in order, in which case it’s straight up, honest news).
I assume you are referring to me when you say that “some people here seem to believe” that they are marxists. I will concede that they aren’t, but Webb has neo-Marxist leanings. Not that I’ve ever called either one of them a Marxist, mind you, but since I’ve used the term in connection to the BBC in general, I’ll go along with your game. Before you launch into another exaggerated accusation, let me just say that I do not for one minute believe that Frei or Webb would be happy if the UK turned into Pol Pot’s Cambodia, or Chavez’s Venezuela tomorrow. Got it? There is, though, a certain faction among the editors which has neo-Marxist tendencies.
On the small scale, Webb’s preferences lean towards a kinder, gentler, neo-Marxism, in which forced redistribution of wealth affects people besides himself and his kind. In addition to that, he feels that those who subscribe to different beliefs than he does should either be re-educated, or at least must not be allowed to hold public office. He’s on record as saying the latter, which at the very least is Maoist. And most definitely Leftist.
gunnar: Your liberal stupidity shows no bounds.
Why are governments pouring billions into these failing companies? where is the money actually going?
If these failing organisations have good assets, the city will buy them up, if they don’t, they will fail.
By bailing out these organisations it will simply encourage the city spivs to continue to take risks knowing that the state will pick up the tab.
Just how many billions have the fat one eyed jock poured into Northern Rock I wonder?
Morning DavidP,
Perhaps it boils down to the definitions of left and right. We seem to have a different take on it. Besides that, political beliefs are rather more complex than that they could be put on just a single dimension.
Incidentally, I did not have you in mind when the word “marxist” slipped out. It was just a tongue in cheek attempt at mirroring the language that is often used on this blog.
You probably know the “Political Compass” website. If not here a link to their take on the primaries.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008
In a nutshell, they introduce another dimension to left and right; “authoritarian” vs “libertarian”.
Have a look at the site, take the test and see what you think. Obviously, it is a model and not representative of the real world, but still, it puts things in some perspective.
You will be happy to learn that Obama is left of McCain. However, he still sits (better sat during the primaries) in the “authoritarian and right” quadrant. The differences between them are marginal.
Have a look and take the test. No prices for guessing where I sit 😉
By bailing out these organisations it will simply encourage the city spivs to continue to take risks knowing that the state will pick up the tab.
Martin | 17.09.08 – 11:22 pm | #
You will be surprised, but we agree on something (apart from the language that is ;))
Just remind me, who is supporting the political philosophy of free and un-regulated markets?
“Authoritarian” and “Right” – I think you’ll find that it is the left who are always “authoritarian” – Have you seen how authoritarian Britain has become in the last 10 years? How many bans have been put in place – Do you think Greenpeace are “liberal”?
Just remind me, who is supporting the political philosophy of free and un-regulated markets?
gunnar | 17.09.08 – 11:35 pm | #
We all should be. Please don’t tell me, Gunnar, that you are one of these misinformed saps who believes that the current crisis was caused by the “free market”?
As a reminded – the sub-prime crisis would never, I repeat never, have come to pass without socialistic state meddling in the affairs of lenders.
Well Gunnar I think McLiebour have been running the UK for the last 11 years and if I remember correctly Gordon McBean is up to his neck in it.
So in answer to your question, the answer is Nu Liebour.
What I would like to see is the Police investigating the goings on in the City.
Locking a few city spivs up in jail might make then think twice in the future.
However, in answer to your question in a free market, the market should decide. Shit companies go to the wall, I don’t see why the tax payer should pick up the tab.
I don’t see why I should fund the BBC either. If the BBC were required to live off the money it earned it to would go to the wall.
Jason: The sub prime issues started off under Bill Clinton who wanted every American to be able to afford their own home, regardless of their ability to pay for it.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709
Oh and Biden’s sticky little paws are all over it as well.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5670703&page=1
“…Congressional Republicans drove the effort to pass the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) of 2005. But Biden • who has enjoyed hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from credit industry executives • endorsed the measure early on and worked to gather Democratic support for it…”
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5670703&page=1
You won’t see THAT story from Frei or Webb.
As a reminded – the sub-prime crisis would never, I repeat never, have come to pass without socialistic state meddling in the affairs of lenders.
Jason | 18.09.08 – 12:15 am | #
Well, I would like to hear more about this?
All those offers for credit I received over the past years was a result of socialist state meddling?
Were banks really forced to provide large mortgages? I would have thought, that the availibility of cheap credit actually caused property values to rise. Perhaps Brown was requiring the banks to hand out those credits? Perhaps he also thought that making buy-to-let more difficult would have been, erm actually socialist state meddling.
Anyway, happy to learn if you could provide some information.
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So in answer to your question, the answer is Nu Liebour.
Martin | 18.09.08 – 12:16 am | #
OK, just as a reminder, my question was:
“Just remind me, who is supporting the political philosophy of free and un-regulated markets?”
If this is the answer to my question, then I guess you suggest that New Labour (I assume you mean this bunch) are supporters of free and un-regulated markets.
If this is your answer, we largely agree again. We are on a roll, aren’t we?
My advice to anyone thinking about weathering the recession is to stockpile tinned food, rice, pasta, candles, medical supplies and ammunition ( although the last item will only apply to relatively few UK subjects, courtesy of our cretinous gun laws. Thankfully the nature of my business means I have the paperwork to own guns and ammunition denied to other law abiding folks )
Once the underclass aren’t getting funding for their chipped Playstations, white cider and microchips they’ll be swarming out of their council ghettos looking to take everything you own. So hide your Krugerrands well.
Gunnar: The difference is I think that the regulation of our free market was done by Gordon Broon.
“…Under Gordon Brown’s early stewardship of the Treasury, back in 1997, responsibility for banking regulation was taken from the Bank of England • its brief was reduced to setting interest rates and “maintaining financial stability” • and handed to the financial regulator, the Financial Services Authority…”
http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/economics/how-gordon-brown-failed-the-banking-test.aspx
If the fat one eyed jock had stopped sticking his unqualified nose in, perhaps much of the mess in the UK could have been avoided.
gunnar | 18.09.08 – 12:29 am | #
Read the link that Martin provides above. It explains it pretty well.
You really need to look into the Community Reinvestment Act, a product of the Carter years and rekindled by Clinton. Then look into the ways in which left wing community “activist” groups like ACORN abused the act in order to blackmail lenders into lowering their underwriting standards – because they believed that the standards were artificially high in order to discriminate against minorities. The usual irrational, baseless left wing bullshit.
Groups like ACORN were able to use the legal leverage of the CRA act in order to veto the branch expansions or mergers of any lenders who refused to comply with the lower standards. They were forced to bow to their bureaucratic masters, or face billions in losses.
That’s not to say that the current crisis has not also been caused by corruption and greed since – but it is corruption and greed that was enabled by socialist intervention. Greedy, corrupt humans will ALWAYS exist no matter what the underlying economic or political system, whether it be capitalism or socialism or anything in between. The difference is that under free capitalism (no intervention, no CRA, no bailouts etc) such corruption is kept in check by the free price system and the fact that people are cautious about their own investments when no safety net exists.
As soon as you start forcing people to do business in a way which runs counter to their own sense of reason and their own measured assessments of risk, as soon as you start imposing artificial regulations, and as soon as you top it all off with the promise of bailouts and safety nets, you destroy a fundamental way in which markets and the individuals of which they’re comprised regulate themselves.
To answer a point of yours – the problem was not that they offered you credit (I’m presuming you’re not a high risk low income borrower), the problem was that they were force to extend credit to people who were in no financial shape to take on such loans.
And a reminder: Nobody was “forced” to take on loans – no matter how much you are bombarded with material telling you that “you can borrow up to $xxx,” the decision is always yours at the end of the day. It’s time to stop treating ordinary individuals as if they were babies with no objective sense of judgment.
Once the underclass aren’t getting funding for their chipped Playstations, white cider and microchips they’ll be swarming out of their council ghettos looking to take everything you own. So hide your Krugerrands well.
HSLD | 18.09.08 – 12:33 am | #
LOLOLOL!!
Don’t forget their blue pop and scratchcards.
By the way, it’s interesting to note that ACORN, the left wing activist group which contributed to the sub-prime mess, was founded by one Mr. George Wiley.
Wiley is a hardcore Marxist who once seriously attempted to bankrupt capitalism. He did this in the late 60’s by organizing hundreds of thousands of poor ghetto blacks and persuading them to swarm welfare offices across America and stage sit ins and protests until they were given every last possible welfare benefit it was possible to have.
Wiley’s idea was that the welfare rolls would swell to such an extent that the capitalist system would become bankrupt.
He didn’t manage to bankrupt capitalism, but he did manage to almost triple the number of blacks on welfare in just a few years. The consequences for black America have been devastating since.
How funny that his own group, ACORN, should have made another damn good try at bankrupting capitalism more than 30 years later.
It’s also interesting to note that ACORN has been involved in some pretty disgraceful incidents over the years, including the worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history. You can read more about it here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/26/acorn-falls-again-the-worst-case-of-voter-registration-fraud-in-washington-state-history/
It’s also interesting to note that you will find no mention of ACORN anywhere on the BBC’s website, nor will you find any mention of the Community Reinvestment Act, which is such a HUGE cause of the current financial crisis.
The only mention you will find of it is in a couple of articles from almost 10 years ago which basically sneer that Republicans were attempting to undermine the act, much to the horror of those morally superior Democrats. No mention is given of the ways in which the act forced lenders to lower their standards to dangerously low levels.
The BBC’s journalistic standards are disgraceful. They’re less sophisticated than your average 6th form newspaper.
Martin
Free market capitalism is not our problem.
Free market capitalism TOTALLY controlled by Marxist/Fascist corporatist, internationalist, mega wealthy elites, attempting complete world domination, is our problem.
IMO this is one of those problems that has no easy answer worth having, to say the least. However when trying to find an answer it is very useful to know what exactly the problem is.
this is not so easy because
Our minds have been so completely brainwashed by our history books and MSM into pointless divide and they rule, dialectic party politics, that we NO LONGER HAVE FREE MINDS TO THINK WITH.
Which is why nobody anywhere right now seems to have an answer to our current economic and social problems.
The so called LEFT think the problem is too much free market capitalism and not enough state control. Where as the so called right think the problem is too little free market and too much state control.
They cant both be right, or could they?
Yes, in a way they can.
It is perfectly possible to have a civilized, just, progressive, liberal, cohesive, peaceful, prosperous society, a strong supportive regulatory state and an active free market, at the same time.
Unfortunately the people that have the power to make it happen, have to want it to happen. Our collective problem is that the people in control want nothing of the sort for long. They want to periodically murder, enslave and impoverish. They do this because they know that their old tricks ( including world wars, depressions, famines, civil-disorder, propaganda, black-ops, etc ) still work best when it comes to retaining their own families position of almost absolute power.
Our beloved BBC works for these people, not a little or sometimes but 100% of the time. Which is why the BBC NEVER EVER under any circumstances mentions the name of the person that ultimately controls the BBCs every move.
Which is the same guy who controls the Corporation of London. The Bank of England, The Federal Reserve, and every single British government policy since his father gave up the job when he died. He is reported to control 70% of the entire wealth of the world. His son heads up and funds the Ecology Movement along with his favored CO2=AGW theory. Oh I almost forgot. Is also directly related to Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, George Bush, Tony Blair, The Queen of England and ALL of whats left of the British and European aristocracy.
We know responsibility should in a perfect world, always be taken at the highest level.
So finding out why this excuse for a civilized world is very far from perfect is easy. Look up to the highest part of the highest pyramid you can find, and there is your man.
It is perfectly possible to have a civilized, just, progressive, liberal, cohesive, peaceful, prosperous society, a strong supportive regulatory state and an active free market, at the same time.
Atlas shrugged | 18.09.08 – 1:34 am | #
I agree, except to me, “strong supportive regulatory state” is one which limits itself not to telling people how they can and can’t do business with each other on their own terms, but one which protects individuals from physical coercion and fraud. One which enforces contracts and allows appeal to a system of justice.
The kind of regulation which is NOT required is that which sets quotas, prices, wages, interest rates and the like.
So Governor Palin’s email account got hacked. Well, if this weren’t bad enough it seems like these fucks also disclosed Bristol Palin’s mobile phone number. Lefties and moral highground – my arse!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31286_New_Lows_Every_Day
Good to see that we agree on everything then.
BTW
Did I mention that one of this chaps forefathers also employed Karl Marx as a reporter for one of his many news-papers?
He who controls both sides of a political divide ALWAYS gets the result they want?
Those that do not understand this are going to get seriously buggered again. Only this time there will be nowhere to run too.
Atlas shrugged | 18.09.08 – 2:08 am |
If I understand you correctly we’re either doomed and should contemplate suicide or we need to kill who?
Seriously though. If I decide to get involved in local politics I’m not part of the global conspiracy. Where does it start? What are the nuances?
I understand there’s a lot of angst out there and there are a lot of politicians who propagandise all day long but people aren’t as stupid as they once were. We’ve got the internet – that’s why we’re here. Liberals, conservatives, anarchists and even guys like you. If there were a conspiracy you wouldn’t be able to “speak”.
P.S.: It’s always the left who kills free speech.
gunnar | 17.09.08 – 11:31 pm |
Perhaps it boils down to the definitions of left and right. We seem to have a different take on it. Besides that, political beliefs are rather more complex than that they could be put on just a single dimension.
Nonsense. Unless, that is, you’re using Tony Benn as a median. Stop dancing around, gunnar. You know perfectly well that both Matt Frei and Justin Webb are openly supporting any Democrat candidate, and have done since that low-budget news broadcast targeted directly at me and my fellow citizens came on air. Playing word games doesn’t change that.
Have a look at the site, take the test and see what you think. Obviously, it is a model and not representative of the real world, but still, it puts things in some perspective.
I know all about these idiotic algorithms. You’re correct that they are not connected to reality, so I won’t bother.
You will be happy to learn that Obama is left of McCain. However, he still sits (better sat during the primaries) in the “authoritarian and right” quadrant. The differences between them are marginal.
More nonsense. On paper, a short list of very specific issues might show them fairly close together. In reality they would be miles apart as President. In case you forgot, the Obamessiah has already stated his desires for an authoritarian rule. He has spoken of his intent to forcibly seize money from a specific group of people in order to redistribute it to another group. He has also spoken of his desire for some sort of mandatory labor program for all citizens of a certain age. His description reminded me of those “volunteers” one sees on the roadsides in totalitarian states, smiling while painting or sweeping or building a monument. His followers move en masse to stifle dissent and silence critics, just like so many brownshirts.
That’s your boy, the Obamessiah, about whom you have chided me so often. You continue to deny reality, and seem to be totally unaware of what he has said and done, even though I am constantly telling you. I don’t know why I bother.
Have a look and take the test. No prices for guessing where I sit.
On your head, perhaps?
There is a priceless clip on YOUTUBE of George Galloway interviewing Ch4 producer David Henshaw from Iranian TV. It’s also being carried on LGF
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/
Don’t miss it! It’s what happens when the lunatics get to run the asylum.
John Bosworth | 18.09.08 – 4:07 am | #
That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen in ages. Now the real question is: when is Galloway planning on converting?
He’s like an articulate 8 year old.
Jews For John McCain Poll Shocker
New York Jews have not voted republican en masse since Ronald Reagan and as of six months ago didn’t appear to have changed.
The tide has seemingly turned though. In the Siena Poll (cross tabs) section is a demographic which should make Mr Obama start thinking about what to do with all of his spare time after next November.
The issue would be Sen. John McCain garnering 57% of the New York Jewish favorable view and Mr Obama getting a miserable 38% favorable rating.
That is not good news for the Obama/Biden camp, since the last time this happened Ronaldus Maximus Reagan won in such a landslide the world doesn’t even remember who his opponent was. (actually the guy who ran against Reagan went on to get a job building houses for free and roaming the globe trash talking the United States and Israel)
In all, John McCain outscored Obama in most of the categories when the Jewish vote was tallied. And in many of the areas John McCain outscored Barack Hussein Obama even when all likely voters were tallied. particularly in areas such as security, patriotism (go figure)
The Jewish vote really shouldn’t be able to make much of a difference in the total electoral process, but it does tend to do so. Jews make up approximately 2% of the US population, but also have the ability to swing quite a few of the states in which they make up a larger percentage of the population. New York and Pennsylvania are two of those states according to Jeffrey S. Helmreich at Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (JPCA)
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/259962
One in the eye for the antisemitic left!! 🙂
I’m surprised this site didn’t pick up the issue of the Islamic death threats against McCartney, due to play in Israel.
It has been widely reported that Muslim savages have promised to kill the ex-Beatle if he plays his scheduled gig on Sept 25 in Tel Aviv.
So am I correct to wonder where the BBC report of this was? In fact the only mention of it I can find on the BBC news site is this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7612038.stm
“Sir Paul defiant on Israel show”
Sir Paul McCartney has insisted his first show in Israel will go ahead, despite pressure from campaigners who want him to cancel it.
The 65-year-old will perform some of his biggest Beatles and solo hits at the Tel Aviv gig later this month.
But protesters asked him to reconsider over Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and its Gaza Strip blockade.
Absolutely no mention of the death threats at all. Oh sure, the BBC reports that there’s some kind of conflict about him going – but only from “campaigners” angry about Israel’s “occupation of the West Bank”.
Given that the BBC has deliberately failed to report Islamic terrorist death threats against a knighted British subject who is perhaps one of the most famous artists in the world, don’t you think it’s about time an official inquiry was carried out into the BBC’s pro-Muslim agenda? Oh I forgot, there already has been one, but the BBC got a court injunction to prevent the results being known.
More on the death threat made against McCartney and the Beeb:
I notice when Heather Mills claimed that death threats were made against her, the BBC had no problem in reporting that…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6197754.stm
Could it be that Al-Beeb is deliberately snubbing Sir Paul since he has publicly voiced support for the BBC’s hated Israel?
I found comments on the Jerusalem Post regarding the Beeb’s refusal to carry this story:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1221142464894&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
79. The BBC may aswell support Al bakri and personally help him murder Paul McCartney..
This important stroy is nowhere to be seen and BOY have i checked. When will i ever stop being angry with the BBC. That robs me as a householder over £100 every year to watch repaets and third rate ‘reality’ tv shows – yawn … somedays i could foam at the mouth im that angry. I want inner peace and the BBC to be honest, and remove their blatant bias’..
Lee – UK (09/15/2008 19:17)
73. just checked the BBC, and CNN, did not see one word about this
not suprised
Brian – Aliyah (09/15/2008 04:48)
53. If the BBC had the courage and the decency to run this story nationwide …
it would cause national outrage. That one of our national treasures is being held to ransom for performing his historic and wonderful legacy upon Israeli soil – or any soil for that matter by muslim terrorists. Hoe dare they! Muslims are already getting a more tough time of it here as it is with the way they behave. Its only beginning to come to light in the lulled British psyche what these people have been all about and are still all about. We know how they hate us all. Muslims cause apartheids wherever they live. British people are waking up – and this story wakes us up all the more!
Lee – UK (09/14/2008 19:32)
Atlas shrugged | 18.09.08 – 1:34 am |
“Which is the same guy who controls the Corporation of London. The Bank of England, The Federal Reserve, and every single British government policy since his father gave up the job when he died. He is reported to control 70% of the entire wealth of the world. His son heads up and funds the Ecology Movement along with his favored CO2=AGW theory. Oh I almost forgot. Is also directly related to Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, George Bush, Tony Blair, The Queen of England and ALL of whats left of the British and European aristocracy.”
So, who is it then?
Gunnar: “Rep Convention bounce broken… nothing of it on the BBC.”
Here you go: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7622246.stm
“In the words of Nate Silver of the website fivethirtyeight.com, “a veritable orgy of polling” was published today…CNN/Time’s batch bring positive news for Barack Obama…
Today’s tracking polls all appear to confirm what the last few days’ polls have been indicating: John McCain’s post-convention bounce has receded…
A nation-wide poll from Zogby also has Mr Obama leading, by two points.”
MisterMinit: So, who is it then?
Noel Edmonds.
That link didn’t come out quite as I intended. I’ll try again.
TORY BROTHEL
Anon | 17.09.08 – 6:19 pm |
Thank you for that. I am now better informed about the sex scandal story than before, and certainly at the hands of my local broadcaster.
However, at this point, I do think it important to stress that this story of minor political suburban peccadillos is (I hope) a lot different to the vicious murder of two young women (who we now know to be Algerian, and sisters). I fear at first the way I read your edit they seemed to be linked.
Anyway, this still seems to me a very good example of the following:
David Preiser (USA):
JohnA | 17.09.08 – 5:25 pm |
The BBC has a policy to defer rporting stuff
until things are clear – to get the facts absolutely right before broadcasting.
As with many aspects of various policies, charters, claims, etc made by and/or on behalf of an entity I have to pay for but seem powerless to reach or influence, there is what ‘should be’ and what ‘is’.
John Bosworth | 17.09.08 – 3:36 pm:
I’m flattered that you picked up on my post. Thanks.
The British media industry is a veritable rats’ nest of spineless, arse-licking, back-slapping, nepotistic lefties whose purpose seems to be to milk the system whilst running down anything that smacks of conservatism and at all times keeping schtum about their cosy friendships, family connections, business links and fat cheques.
Of course there are people out there in TV land with balls who steer independent, unbiased courses. Panorama’s John Ware, C4’s Dorothy Byrne, and the Sunday Telegraph’s Alasdair Palmer, all formerly of Granada TV’s World in Action, prove that not all who worked on that programme are screaming leftwing bigots such as David Leigh, Ed Vulliamy, and Mark Hollingsworth, who most certainly are.
Production company Darlow-Smithson is one of the best, and was responsible for the patriotic C4 series about the Bletchley Park code-breakers, Station X; plus the utterly amazing BBC documentary series Tory! Tory! Tory!, which, shock horror, actually told the story of the Thatcher phenomenon through an unbiased prism – that is to say, it dissected and celebrated the woman’s immense achievement in turning the UK around from a union-run, strike-ridden, basket-case economy. (I wonder if the BBC commissioning editor responsible still has a job.)
But such examples are the exception. To get on in factual television without risking ones career, one usually has to toe the Guardian line and keep quiet when the dishonesty, bigotry, glad-handing, nepotism and bias start to annoy.
I didn’t, and I was out on my arse from Granada after a series of reports that later won me a shortlisting for a regional media award. My sin? Not for the first time I refused my producer’s demands to put a particular leftwing spin on my reports.
My experience led me to suspect that there must be scores • perhaps hundreds • of non-leftwing broadcast journalists out there who’ve found them selves unemployed simply because they didn’t subscribe to the Groupthink.
IMHO, one the things the Conservatives ought to instigate, once they’re back in power, is set up a department to hear the stories of bias from whistleblowers in the media, such as people like myself who’ve found themselves kicked out of broadcasting because they refused to play the game. Such an entity would create havoc among the BBC’s News and Current affairs and just might over time help restore a sense of balance and truth-telling, and could conceivably even break the liberal consensus.
That’s your boy, the Obamessiah
David Preiser (USA) | Homepage | 18.09.08 – 3:56 am | #
Apparently, you have not followed the link, nor have you understood that I do not support Obama. Besides, it is matter of the american people who they want to have as their president.
I am also amazed that you know how the algorithm works, when you are not familiar with the space it attempts to fill.