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  1. David Preiser (USA) says:

    More information to correct Rachel Harvey’s falsehood about Joe Biden:

    Biden garbles Depression history

    Biden was on national television being interviewed by Katie Couric when he said:

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.'”

    As Reason’s Jesse Walker footnotes it: “And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, ‘Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?'”

    Roosevelt was Governor of New York at the time, and RCA was still trying to broadcast – to themselves – a solid image of a Felix The Cat figurine. There was no such thing as “television” yet.

    More qualified than Gov. Palin? And McCain is supposed to be old and senile? They sure made a big deal about McCain’s slip up over the President of Spain. This is a much more ridiculous statement. Plainly Biden is just making it up as he goes along, and Katie Couric and the MSM didn’t even notice. Don’t expect to hear about this from the BBC either, because they are ignorant of all history outside of the Russian Revolution.

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  2. emil says:

    Biden, only a heartbeat away from being President. Now that is extremely ‘king scary.

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  3. GCooper says:

    Mark Lawson on Radio 4’s Front Row, ‘interviewing’ Culture Secretary Andy Burnham at around 19.30 on 23rd September: “… suppose you get the dream ticket, as we used to say in the Labour Party?”

    Among his other responsibilities, Burnham is in charge of funding for the BBC.

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  4. Martin says:

    How could sweet bimbo Katie notice? She’s got her head up Osama’s arse like the rest of the MSM.

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  5. John Bosworth says:

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is Larry King’s guest tonight on CNN. Nice soft questions, nice smooth answers, makes you sick.

    Is the next stop for Ahmadinejad Johnathan Woss?

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  6. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Here’s a bit of nonsense. Henry Mance has an article about how The Obamessiah’s candidacy is good for blacks in Latin America.

    Obama buoys black LatAm politics

    Other than a black Brazilian politician – who has to work in a country with very real racial issues – the best examples this dopey Beeboid can come up with for countries with success in the race-relations department are….wait for it….Venezuela and Cuba.

    Chavez is apparently considered “mixed-race”, but I guess when one is desperate that’s good enough for a mention in a discussion about blacks. I’m sure racial equality is just peachy in Venezuela, but how many black faces did anyone see in Gustavo Dudamel’s world famous wonderful youth orchestra?

    And of course, “Racial equality advanced in Cuba after President Batista was deposed.”

    LOLROTFLMAO.

    It’s not hard to achieve racial equality when everyone is deprived of freedom. I forget – how many black people are in Castro’s inner circle or other positions of leadership in Cuba?

    So not only will an Obamessiah Presidency redeem the US from it’s nasty history of racial horror, but it will redeem all of Latin America as well. Drip, drip, drip.

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  7. George R says:

    Ending political dissent on internet:

    1.) Malaysia – BBC report:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7630789.stm

    2.) European Union – no BBC report:

    “Freedom of speech – EU style”

    [Extract]:

    “That, ladies and gentlemen is freedom of speech EU-style. Where they can, they shut down debate and, if they could, they would close it down on the blogosphere and everywhere else. ”

    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/09/freedom-of-speech-eu-style.html

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  8. adam says:

    most people wont see this as bias but i do.

    Newsnight has said congress is grilling Paulson and co. over their bailout plan.
    The real politik of this is congress is under pressure to accept this bailout plan or see the economy collapse, while those bankers sit their and claim the system they oversaw is wrong.

    At minimum it shows an amateur comprehension of what is taking place, and more likely sympathy towards the bailout.

    imo

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  9. JG says:

    This is the sort of quality that you’re TV tax is paying for. “a few minutes of genuine radio gold: BBC West Midlands’ Les Ross attempting to interview writer/broadcaster Hardeep Singh Kohli.”

    http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/when-hardeep-met-les

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  10. JG says:

    hmm, you’re -> your 🙁

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  11. George R says:

    BBC view of Ahmadinejad:

    “Iran defends nuclear plans at UN”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7632691.stm

    ‘Jihadwatch’ view of Ahmadinejad:

    “Who is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?”

    [Extract]:

    “Ahmadinejad and his ilk are not interested in any negotiation, any compromise or any live-and-let-live final solution. They are determined to be the soldiers of Mahdi come-what-may. They have no problem with the total destruction of the world. They are headed for a life of eternal bliss in Allah’s paradise.”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022812.php#more

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  12. Anonymous says:

    Iran will resist “bullying powers” trying to thwart its peaceful nuclear ambitions, its leader has told the UN.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7632691.stm

    Why are the words bullying powers inside scare quotes but not the word peaceful?

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  13. Verity says:

    G Cooper – I have been saying for the past six years that the Islamics were imported to be a tool to destroy Britain.

    We never had the faintest need for them. They were forced down the throat of the indigenes and long-term, well-settled and integrated immigrants, for purposes of disrupting the norms of civilised society. That was why the appearance of halal shops – despite this method of slaughter of animals having been illegal in Britain for a long time. (Kosher killing should also be halted, but the Jews haven’t made an issue of forcing real British children to eat halal meat without their parents being informed. But there should never have been an exception made for kosher, because this is what happens when more vicious people with an agenda want to open the gate wider.)

    The muslims were imported as a weapon against our cohesive and largely familial British society. They were imported to be divisive. They were imported to threaten the accepted ways of doing things and make us unsure of the ground we had owned for thousands of years. They were imported to gag free speech.

    Short sighted people chuckle comfortably, saying the Marxists/Trots/Gramscians “couldn’t run a whelk stall”.

    They don’t have to.

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  14. Anonymous says:

    BBC view of Ahmadinejad: George R | 24.09.08 – 12:20 am

    A genocide inciter gets the red carpet welcome in New York
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5D7CD1F1-862F-41E6-AA57-1A6301CC621E

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  15. George R says:

    Why does the BBC do this? No prizes.

    The BBC is largely uncritical in its reporting of the United Nations speech of Ahmadinejad of Iran, a speech hostile to the United States:

    “Iran defends nuclear plans at UN”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7632691.stm

    -BUT the BBC, in its report on President Bush’s speech to the UN, largely EXCLUDES his comments on Iran (and Syria):

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7630698.stm

    So, one has to turn to, e.g., the ‘Telegraph’ to get a proper picture of Bush’s response to Iran:

    “George Bush attacks Iran and Syria in final United Nations speech”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3068682/George-Bush-attacks-Iran-and-Syria-in-final-United-Nations-speech.html

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  16. Bryan says:

    Cassandra | 23.09.08 – 9:37 am

    Was that on BBC World?

    Is there a connection between the events in the Israel government and the terrorist attack? Was Qassem al-Mughrabi frustrated by corruption and disorder in the Knesset? If not, why is this comment in the report at all?
    deegee | 23.09.08 – 10:38 am

    Yeah I noticed that as well.

    The bBC, a terrorist can only be a victim and half the story.
    pounce | 23.09.08 – 7:23 pm

    Too true.

    The BBC couldn’t minimise a terror attack more if it tried. Oh, hang on, it does try:

    About a dozen soldiers have been wounded in an apparent attack [my emphasis] in central Jerusalem, Israeli police say.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7630534.stm

    A black BMW mounted the pavement and hit a group of Israeli soldiers, who were wearing their uniforms.

    Valid target then, I guess, by yet another noble revolutionary guerrilla fighter from the ranks of the brutally oppressed Arabs.

    Of course, the terror-friendly subversives at the BBC wont tell us that the terrorist was evidently lusting after his 72 virgins in paradise, having been denied permission to marry his cousin:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017359506&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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  17. la marquise says:

    The today programme Wednesday, -James Naughtie during the first review of the papers “The Telegraph talks of the Labour party’s ‘Sarah moment’…. not that they are comparing the prime minister’s wife to Sarah Palin we are glad to say..”

    Heaven forbid.

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  18. pounce says:

    The bBC, those nasty nefarious yanks , those bold Russians and half the story.

    Russian drone ‘hit over Georgia’
    Georgia says its military has shot down a Russian reconnaissance drone that was flying over Georgian territory – a claim denied by Russia. The unmanned plane was downed south of the de facto border with breakaway South Ossetia, the Georgian government said, though no evidence was provided. Russia dismissed the claim as “another media provocation by Georgia”.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7630978.stm
    Pakistan recovers ‘US spy drone’
    The Pakistani army has found the wreckage of a suspected US spy plane near the Afghan border but has denied claims it was shot down. A military spokesman told the BBC that the drone was recovered on Tuesday in the South Waziristan tribal area and the wreckage was being examined. The spokesman said the crash appeared to have been due to a malfunction. The US has not confirmed the loss of the drone. It has denied that any of its aircraft have been shot down.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7632957.stm

    So when the Russians lose a UAV its carrying out a reconnaissance mission. Yet when the Yanks do so its spying. Same thing different meanings.
    The bBC, those nasty nefarious yanks , those bold Russians and half the story.

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  19. pounce says:

    The bBC, the Pakistani fight against terrorists and half the story.
    In Pakistan the army killed over 60 terrorists yesterday in reaction to those so called bBC freedom fighters who have no problem murdering who they want when they want in order to gain the respect of the bBC. Yet does the BBC lead with this story. No it pushes that story to the back of an article about how 5 protesters were shot dead by the police after they confronted gangs who were burning and looting banks.
    Pakistan police kill protesters
    Pakistani police say they have shot dead at least six people during protests against military operations in the north-western area of Swat. More than a dozen others were injured when police opened fire on hundreds of protesters in the city of Mingora. Police say they fired to prevent banks being looted. Locals are angry at army shelling which they say killed five people in the area earlier this week. Troops have been fighting a rising tide of militancy in Swat since last year….
    Military spokesman Maj Murad Khan said 50 militants had been killed in clashes since Monday in Dara Adam Khel, close to the city of Peshawar.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7632114.stm

    and how the Scottish herald reported the above story;
    http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/foreign/display.var.2451514.0.Security_forces_kill_60_insurgents_in_fighting_over_safe_havens.php
    The bBC, the Pakistani fight against terrorists and half the story.

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  20. pounce says:

    The bBC, turning the ratchet against Israel and half the story.
    McCartney arrives for Israel gig
    Sir Paul McCartney has landed in Israel ahead of his first ever concert in the country on Thursday. He told fans at Ben Guiron airport that he wanted to bring “a message of peace and love” to the Middle East, according to Israeli Public radio. The 66-year-old is due to rehearse at Tel Aviv’s Yarkon Park on Wednesday, and may also hold a press conference. Protestors had asked Sir Paul to cancel the one-off gig over Israel’s occupation of the West Bank.
    Syrian-born cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed urged the star to cancel his visit out “of respect of the feelings of Muslims in Palestine”. Mr Mohammad, who lives in Lebanon after being deported from the UK in 2005, denied reports he had made death threats against Sir Paul.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7633013.stm
    Wow, the bBC brings out a twisted self appointed so called Islamic cleric in which to condemn Macca’s tour of Israel. Funny how the bBC quotes this political agitator with;
    “”of respect of the feelings of Muslims in Palestine”. Yet didn’t mention that this scrounging workshy bastard is on record of saying this;
    “”We don’t make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity.”
    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true
    But what really takes the biscuit from the bBCs fawning towards a religious bigot is how they report he was deported from the UK in 2005. Err no BBC he left of his own accord when after gobing off after the 2005 tube bombings he legged it in which to allow the heat to cool off. Only after he left was he barred. But hey the bBC doesn’t miss a trick in which to defend Bowens little helper.
    Cleric Bakri barred from Britain
    Radical Islamic preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed has been excluded from the UK. The Home Office said Home Secretary Charles Clarke used existing powers to exclude Mr Mohammed as his presence was “not conducive to the public good”.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4144792.stm

    The bBC, turning the ratchet against Israel and half the story.

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  21. moonbat nibbler says:

    It’s official: Eurozone falls into recession

    http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/09/24/16268/its-official-eurozone-falls-into-recession/

    Where is the BBC report on this? If the USA falls into recession can we expect a similar silence?

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  22. will says:

    If the USA falls into recession can we expect a similar silence?
    moonbat nibbler

    haven’t got the will to listen again, but I’m pretty sure that Brown made this claim in the midst of Traktor stats in this morning’s Today interview.

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  23. will says:

    Re above, Risking all, I have listened again. Naughtie details warnings of bust to follow boom, his references place the action in the present- not 2001/2. Brown responds (at 8:22 into recording)

    8:22 James this is completely nonsense, you know this because we have had negative growth in Germany,negative growth in France, negative growth in Spain, Ireland is undergoing a recession, America has had negative growth We have not yet recorded negaive growth

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7632000/7632987.stm

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  24. George R says:

    Pounce 11:10 am

    Yes, the BBC won’t like this (and doesn’t report it here anyway):

    [Extract, ‘New English Review’]:

    “A MEETING for Muslims has been cancelled over fears it was organised by extremists.
    “The conference entitled ‘Meaning of Ibaadah’ was due to take place at Harmony Hall in Walthamstow on September 27 and was advertised on a website which is believed to be run by Omar Bakri Muhammad and his followers.”

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/17214

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  25. David Preiser (USA) says:

    A seemingly balanced report about Gov. Palin’s first meetings with a couple of foreign heads of state has the BBC attempting to flog the canard that she has no foreign policy experience.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7632750.stm

    Sen. Biden has lots of foreign policy knowledge, we’re told. Yet, there are to key facts which show this them to be false.

    Firstly, how many VPs have anything to do with foreign policy before they take office? Dick Cheney, George HW Bush (under Reagan) and who else? The following VPs had little or none, and certainly weren’t known for their expertise in the area, and hadn’t spent much time around heads of state before becoming VP:

    Dan Quayle
    Al Gore
    Walter Mondale
    Gerald Ford
    Spiro Agnew
    Hubert Humphrey
    Lyndon Johnson

    LBJ was Senate Majority Leader before Kennedy added him to the ticket, but other than that none of the above were known for foreign policy anything. In short, the idea that a VP needs foreign policy experience is total nonsense. Nobody ever gave a damn until now. Magically.

    The only reason anybody is making a big deal about Gov. Palin’s lack of experience in this is area is because they must deflect attention from the other key point: The Obamessiah has none whatsoever.

    John McCain has plenty of knowledge and experience in the area, so he doesn’t need the help. Conversely, The Obamessiah has zero experience, and so far just about every opinion he’s given on the subject has turned out to be wrong. Or, he said one thing to the public, while his advisers said something entirely different to Canada and Newsnight. Naturally, it becomes necessary for the BBC to pimp Sen. Biden, who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and has broad knowledge of US foreign policy challenges.

    What’s that you say, BBC? Her lack of any kind of experience outside of Alaska is worrisome? Normally VP nominees are expected to have at least some knowledge, blah, blah, blah? How much time did Bubba Clinton spend on foreign policy when he was Governor of Arkansas? What about the effin’ Obamessiah, then? Or should we all pretend that’s not the real problem here?

    The BBC is peddling nonsense yet again. And you’re all supposed to worry about her “lack of experience”. Completely bogus story. It’s a big smoke screen to hide more flaws of The Obamessiah.

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  26. jimbob says:

    al beeb does find the time and space to report this heartwarming tale.

    allah akbar !

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7633623.stm

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  27. whitewineliberal says:

    David – Palin not having any foreign policy experience isn’t a canard though is it. You don’t dispute this fact, but rather offer an argument (a good argument) why it doesn’t matter.

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  28. Anonymous says:

    What a disappointment

    Olympic park toilets ‘will not face Mecca’
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/olympic-park-toilets-will-not-face-mecca-941030.html
    .

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  29. moonbat nibbler says:

    will,

    Technically Broon is correct, the US fell into negative growth (0.2%) for Q4 2007. This doesn’t make it a recession though, the rule of thumb being a fall in GDP for two consecutive quarters.

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  30. Verity says:

    Obama has zero, zilch foreign experience. How could he get any high altitude foreign experience when he’s not a head of state, nor a deputy head of state? He’s just a senator. One of the pack of legislators in the capital. What head of state is going to meet to discuss policy with a senator?

    He managed to get a photo op with the dullard Brown because he’s a presidential candidate. Having your photo taken outside No 10 just doesn’t count as “foreign policy experience”. Neither does getting up on a platform in Berlin and spouting dated platitudes in front of a young (“idealistic” – as in, before the Berlin Wall came down; not today) crowd who had come along for the free beer and the concert afterwards.

    I suspect that Governor Palin has more foreign policy experience than she can discuss. Considering the proximity of Russia (30 miles) and issues of sea resources, use of sea lanes, and the incredible amounts of oil and gas reserves in Alaska, there will be quite a few Russian spooks floating around the state, and I suspect the Governor is kept informed of every one of them and what they are up to.

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  31. will says:

    Thanks for the correction, mr N, I’d missed that.After downward revisions, I think.

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  32. Writer says:

    Not sure if this has been covered, but why is it necessary for the BBC to run a writing competition which excludes the majority of the population – who pay it’s bloody fees.

    “New playwriting project for young people of Muslim heritage aged 16-25.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/opportunity/search_party.shtml

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  33. Jason says:

    The BBC still refuse to mention the fact that Islamic death threats have been made against Paul McCartney who is due to play a concert in Israel tomorrow.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7633013.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7612038.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7584179.stm

    Three articles about the gig and yet the Beeb deliberately omit what is an incredibly newsworthy aspect of it, for reasons I can only assume have to do with their left wing obsessions with “not demonizing Muslims”.

    It doesn’t matter if the threat was subsequently downplayed – the fact is that virtually all other news outlets reported it, except the Beeb.

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  34. David Preiser (USA) says:

    whitewineliberal | 24.09.08 – 6:25 pm |

    Palin not having any foreign policy experience isn’t a canard though is it. You don’t dispute this fact, but rather offer an argument (a good argument) why it doesn’t matter.

    That’s the canard. It’s a non-issue dressed as a problem.

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  35. George R says:

    BORAT to ride tandem in 2009 Tour de France?
    http://www.hbo.com/alig/bios/

    Apparently there is speculation that BORAT SAGDIYEV, Kazakhstan’s sixth most famous man may ride tandem with seven times Tour winner (and cycling maestro), LANCE ARMSTRONG, who has joined the Kazakhstan team of Astana:

    BBC report:

    “Armstrong to return with Astana”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7632837.stm

    Telegraph report:

    “Lance Armstrong confirms his return for the 2009 Tour de France with Astana”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/3075200/Lance-Armstrong-confirms-his-return-for-the-2009-Tour-de-France-with-Astana—Cycling.html

    It is understood that Borat has three conditions before any deal can be agreed for his participation:

    1.)that he will only ride on the back of the tandem, and will pedal occasionally;

    2.)that Lance does not annoy Borat by talking about global warming all the time. (Lance is worried about global warming, but Borat isn’t);

    3.)Borat insists that drug-testing on him is unnecessary.

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  36. Cassandra says:

    Aleem Macbool, the BBCs very own Islamist anti semite Jew baiter and the price of Alan Johnsons release(the Hamas gift that just keeps on giving)is at it again peddling his Islamist views!
    He is under the distinct impression that because Hamas is firing fewer rockets(Macfool forgets Hamas is still trying to murder Israelis)the IDF should lift its blockade of Gaza! Hmmmmm, so the blockade is linked to fewer terrorist attacks on civilians is it? Now call me dippy but I thought the blockade was in place untill the terrorist attacks stopped altogether!
    I wonder if thats fair and even within the ceasefire agreement, but the Macfool who reported with a Jewish settlement behind him saw no room or need to balance his ‘report’ with the Israeli position, I mean he must think that Jews are not really people at all, therefore they are always to blame!
    The BBC and its very own holocaust denying, racist, terrorist sympathising Jew murdering Hamas version of the facts! All paid for by the mug taxslave and its Islamist scumbag employee.

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  37. Cassandra says:

    Oooops, Islamist scumbag employee should go after BBC!

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  38. George R says:

    Memo to Lyse Doucet/Barbara Plett:

    read, or listen to Audio report, from fellow female BBC correspondent, Ginny Hill, on what it’s really like for a Western woman in a country rampant with Islamic jihad supporters:

    “Hostility on the streets of Yemen”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7633259.stm

    AUDIO version:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7635359.stm

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  39. George R says:

    ‘Londoner’s Diary’ /Evening Standard

    “Nasty Whiff at BBC’s £250m media village”

    [Extract]:

    “Oh dear. The BBC is literally going down the pan. Four years ago the BBC’s new £250m Media Village at White City was officially opened to great fanfare by Jonathan Ross – he’s got to earn his keep somehow.

    “Five new buildings by Allies and Morrison were added to the original BBC White City building to create the new 17-acre BBC Media Village site on Wood Lane, W12, providing office space for approximately 6,000 people. But there is still a nasty whiff in the air.

    “Despite the installation of such office essentials as fluffy chairs, the more prosaic need for working lavatories has been overlooked. Worse, staff have been told they must put up with the problem until November.”

    http://londonersdiary.standard.co.uk/2008/09/nasty-whiff-at.html

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  40. Martin says:

    Can someone please move this up the list of threads or start a new one.

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  41. Hugh says:

    Done

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  42. davka says:

    The BBC Today programme this morning continues its irritating coverage of Paul McCartney’s concert in Tel Aviv. Why does the BBC have to view everything to do with Israel through the prism of the Israel-Palestine conflict? Of course the Israeli fan vox pops have to be ‘balanced’ with the views of a frustrated Palestinian band. But the Palestinans belong to a separate and largely hostile entity and should not expect access to Israeli pop concerts anymore than Israelis should be allowed into an Egyptian or Jordanian gig.

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