The BBC is hyping up it’s refusal to air the ad from the DEC appealing for cash for Hamastan, thus suggesting it is without bias. Mark Thompson was on to say that he believed showing this appeal could be taken as favouring one side over another. Quite right. Sky has also refused to show the DEC sppeal so BBC virtue in this regard is not unique! So what do we make of the BBC approach here? Superficially I welcome it but of course having endured three weeks of pro-Hamas propaganda dressed up as news reporting, I rather worry that what the BBC is actually doing here is a little bit of sophisticated triangulating, giving itself cover so that any future criticism of its coverage of matters in the Middle East is invalidated because of this move. Your view?
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Mikewine
Re. my post at 4:49
I still invite you to come out to Casamance with me, but, I can’t pay your expenses !!!!
Such a fuss about this. Why is it important for the British public to give aid anyway? Surely the government does that, plus the EU and no doubt lots of other national and international organisations, never mind Saudi billionaires and all the rest.
Sorry: I have gone off topic a bit there.
Nearly Oxfordian tries so hard to be the authoritative figure. He demeans people, he throws terms like ‘anti-semitic’ around, he is so sure of his superiority.
You are preaching only to the converted sunshine, and the converted in this case are buying into the same myths and conspiracy theories you are.
No one mentioned the BBC report about the aid broadcast tonight?I guess not, thats cos the report didnt show any signs of bias, and people here are so desperate for it to do so they deny the truth right in front of their face.
Grant | 26.01.09 – 10:04 pm | #
It doesn’t sound very nice. And i’m quite busy at work. Can you get Radio 4 there?
I think that the BBC have analysed the results of the thousands of have your say responses, which when i looked at them showed an overwhelming disgust at the way the BBC was reporting events.
all the most highly reccomended comment were pro Israel
This must have surprised them big time and they have gone into damage control.
only problem all the usual islamist left coalition are seriously pissed off at the Beeb showing a modicum of impartiality.
So then why do the BBC run the Children in Need appeal? Why the double-standards? Were copious children not murdered or rendered homeless due to the Israeli genocide? Of course there were; but rather the BBC’s participation with the Zionist lobby is the real reason they refuse to air the appeal, and the Biased BBC’s participation with the Zionist lobby is why David Vance is defending the BBC in his blog. Yet I note he never criticises Israel for its mass killing of infants. The BBC is just as responsible for the inflictions against the Palestinians (namely the financial aid blockading) as the Israelis are. The aid is going to the UN, so you can’t use Hamas as an excuse. As for claiming that it is Hamas “cowering behind civilians” who are to blame for the deaths caused by ISRAELI bombs (I find the excuse of “collateral damage” a disgusting attempt at trying to justify genocide); when Israel coerces a mass population into the tiny region of the Gaza strip post annexing the indigenous inhabitant’s homeland (hence Israel being a nation of murdering thieves), then starts bombarding dense populations (whose reason for density was engineered by Israel in the first place), do not try justifying their massacre by blaming it on the innocent prisoner for being in the crowded cage Israel locked them all up in the first place.
Oh, and Jack Hughes making a mockery of the humanitarian disaster; i.e. including scores of murdered (by Zionists) innocent women and children in Gaza by likening its seriousness to that of his village cricket club shows exactly the sub-maggot level of “principles” the Zionist-lobby hold.
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nick:
labour only keep getting re elected cos of the bloody immigrants they let in! the more muslims we let in, the more antisemitic the country gets. labour lets the muslims in and its gonna change our country forever
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Agree, but many of the white working class also have brains which can only vote Labour, even though if you take the policies of the local Labour and Conservative (proper Conservative, not Dave’s friends)one by one they will discover that they agree with the Conservative candidate on every issue apart from benefits. (Europe, the Armed Forces, School discipline, patriotism, crime, waste in the NHS, arrogance of local councils, political correctness)
You aren’t a Jew then?
“You are preaching only to the converted sunshine, and the converted in this case are buying into the same myths and conspiracy theories you are.”
Well prove us all wrong then.
You think the BBC is “neutral” then please explain how this neutrality comes across to the viewer/listener.
Is splicing Obamas sentences “impartial” . Is the BBCs agenda on AGW “impartial”. Please explain how and I might not be one of the “converted”.
Bilal | 26.01.09 – 11:06 pm |
You need serious help. Do you understand the term “genocide”? Obviously not.
a cunning plan–spend weeks presenting Israel as an ogre and then realise the public are beginning to twig your bias, so then get Thompson to pompously declare that showing this charity request would be a deviation from the BBC’s famoue objectivity.
In the mean time get Tony Benn + George Galloway to come on the TV and radio to repeat the telephone no + website details ad nauseum.
If the BBC weren’t so useless in the first place this bit of Blackadder cunning plan trickery wouldn’t have been needed, and they could have shown the charity request with a clean conscience.
Pandachops
I suggest the following question for your phone-in competition:
Which of the following statements has never been broadcast by the BBC?
a) It takes 5 years of voice training to call the faithfull to prayer, and they are as highly trained as opera singers
b) Islam is a religion of peace
c) Palestinians want to reach a peaceful settlement with Israel
As they all have been broadcast, no-one can win, so you do not need to have the expense of giving anyone a prize!
frankos | 26.01.09 – 11:52 pm |
Quite – and there was someone from one of the charities on Radio 4 today, giving out the number and other details. And the presenter said “Do you think you have been given more publicity since the BBC decided not to air the appeal?” or words to that effect.
If they were balanced and believed that they were right not to air the appeal – why do they have so many people on talking about it?
Its really a case of the BBC not reporting the news but setting the agenda.
“The Islamic prophet Muhammad chose Bilal as his muezzin, effectively making him the first official muezzin of the Islamic faith”
I idly googled Bilal, just to see where the name came from. Am only posting this to point out that if wikipedia can refer to ‘the Islamic prophet, Mohammed,’ why the hell can’t the BBC.
Bilal | 26.01.09 – 11:06 pm |
do not try justifying their massacre by blaming it on the innocent prisoner for being in the crowded cage Israel locked them all up in the first place.
Quite right. We should blame the corrupt prison guards who beat them, take their food, and use them as cannon fodder.
Oh, and Jack Hughes making a mockery of the humanitarian disaster; i.e. including scores of murdered (by Zionists) innocent women and children in Gaza by likening its seriousness to that of his village cricket club shows exactly the sub-maggot level of “principles” the Zionist-lobby hold.
We want less people to die than you do, I bet.
The Palestinians already receive the most aid per capita of any country (or in their case self-created festering wasteland quasi-country) – what’s a few million (that this appeal’ll raise) more? I mean all that money is doing them so much good. It warms the cockles of my heart to see them pouring through the border with Egypt (when they elect to open it) to buy essentials like superbikes, big-screen TVs and mobile phones. Those things ain’t cheap.
anyone see Tony Benn
left is upset they are not getting their way. They make a lot more fuss than the right, dont they.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E21MdXe3BOQ
“when Israel coerces a mass population into the tiny region of the Gaza strip”
“bilal” – there was so much rubbish in your rant that I was hard pressed to pick out just this one gem to ridicule.
The Israelis didn’t coerce the so-called “Palestinians” into the Gaza Strip ..the Arab states of Egypt & Jordan did that in 1948. Once they were there what did the “Palestinians” do ? Did they try to create a decent, civil society and make an economic way of life ? Did they hell ! Living like parasites off international aid money they taught their children to hate Jews, they spent all the money they suckered from the UN on weapons and then had between 8 and 15 children per family knowing that the rest of the world would pay for their upkeep. Kept in a state of festering ignorance by their political leaders and islamist clerics, the “Palestinians” sole purpose in the Arab world is as a propaganda tool against Israel. They are encourage to breed even though there are no jobs because the more of them they are the more wretched their plight becomes and the better propaganda the anti-semites get from them. . And the West, by giving them aid, allows this sick situation to carry on, generation after hate-filled generation. . No responsibility, no attempt to better themselves, no attempt to limit their families (“Allah will provide” NO..the UN will provide!) the “Palestinians” are the epitome of all that is wrong with Middle East “culture”. The Arabs built the cage, the “Palestinians” built the conditions.
I note that Newsnight, in providing in depth coverage of the manufactured “row”, showed most of the appeal (including donation line) anyway. So hopefully everyone can be happy and we can get back to some proper news like Chelsea Davy and Prince Harry.
if wikipedia can refer to ‘the Islamic prophet, Mohammed,’ why the hell can’t the BBC.
wally | 27.01.09 – 1:00 am | #
No one objects to refering to Mohammed as the Islamic prophet (small ‘p’) Where there is an objection is refering to him as the Prophet (big ‘P’) Mohammed.
He is not a prophet in Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Sikh, Hindu, etc. religions and every one who is not Muslim is under no obligation to accept his authority or prophetic abilities.
Neither Moses, Shiva, Buddha or Jesus are referred to as the Prophet (big ‘P’) or for that matter, Lord or Saviour, Enlightened One or God (big ‘G’) on the BBC. Those who do object. object to Mohammed receiving a privileged treatment against the ‘heroes’ of other religions.
Do a quick Google on prophet Mohammed site:bbc.co.uk and prophet Moses site:bbc.co.uk and you will see this confirmed.
It’s a little hard to find – a common tactic when the BBC feels obliged to broadcast an article that it wants de-emphasized.
Could ad ban be good for appeal?
BTW on the same de-emphasis track has anyone heard from Quil Lawrence. He contributed two articles from Gaza stating that Gazans are not necessarily accepting the Hamas narrative – then he disappeared from the BBC. I tried to email him to ask but found that finding his address was impossible.
wally | 27.01.09 – 1:00 am |
I may have misunderstood your question. If you meant why doesn’t the BBC call Mohammed, the Islamic prophet, I apologise.
I wonder which BBC Department Bilal works for. If he does work there, he must be shocked by the decision, since he will have never met anyone who disagreed with his point of view.
deegee
Quil Lawrence:
http://www.theworld.org/node/94
Terry Johnson | 27.01.09 – 4:21 am
Though you make a few fair points, much of your post seems just the reverse side of the coin to Bilal’s rant.
In particular:
….had between 8 and 15 children per family knowing that the rest of the world would pay for their upkeep.
In Gaza the average number of children per adult member of a household is 1.02.
The average number of children in Moslem households is 3.5. In Christian households it is 1.5.
(Households often consist of more than one nuclear family unit • e.g. two brothers plus wives and kids living together in the same apartment.)
In the Gaza Strip, households in refugee camps actually have a lower average total number of members than both non-refugee households and refugee households outside camps.
You also neglected to mention that until three and a half years ago, Israel had been governing Gaza for almost 30 years…. so must accept some responsibility for its condition.
The vile, grasping, disgusting BBC is up to its usual tricks. When I called the complaints line (03700 100 222 – always fun to tell them how vile they are) to register my view that this trumped-up story was a stupid, crude and blatant attempt to sanitise themselves, the recorded message invited the caller to simply press a button to register the complaint. No option was given to those of us who, while despising the vicious BBC, nonetheless supported the decision.
During the Jonathan Ross fiasco, no such option was provided. After 3 days of trying to get through, I gave up.
Lies, lies and lies…. it’s what they do.
Bilal 11:06
To describe what the Israelis did in Gaza as “Genocide” is offensive to all victims of real Genocides and suggests that you are mentally deranged.
If the Israelis wanted to commit Genocide against the Palestinians, it would be quite easy, but they have chosen not to. This is in contrast to the Hamas policy of killing every Jew.
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Robert S. McNamara:
The Palestinians already receive the most aid per capita of any country (or in their case self-created festering wasteland quasi-country) –
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Why do you paint a negative image of our life here in Gaza? It’s a great life! We love it! War War War, war and more war. If we didn’t have this great war here we would have to fight each other which is not so much fun. Also, if we fight each other you foreigners won’t give us aid to pay for it all.
We live for the glory and honour of victory. Look at pictures of us chanting when we have a little victory! Imagine our chanting all over the world when we kill all the Jews! It will make the Nazis look like the pathetic half-finished job types they were.
Plus we are the centre of world attention. Just look at all the BBC crews fawning all over us. We must be very important people.
We lost these lands 1500 years ago, before our religion was even invented, and now we have the chance to get them back for the glory of Islam. Do you think we are going to throw away our chance of honour and glory for a boring old life of peace and prosperity? Not likely!
Only two mentions of the Balen report? Do try to keep up. Damn right it’s triangulation.
Terry Johnson:
You say 8-15 children per family for the Palestinian ‘refugees’
Roger Reid
Your figures are slightly confusing because you quote 1.02 per ‘adult member of a household’, but then the next figure of 3.5 is per ‘household’. Was this a typing mistake or are you not comparing like with like? In a household in Gaza there will often be two adults, or more.
Anyway, rather than argue the details about children per household, or per adult, or per whatever, let us look at the bigger picture:
The main points are that:
1) The refugee camps originally contained about 145,000 people
2) They now number millions
3) They are not self-supporting, they live off foreign aid
4) That is a pretty impressive rate of increase of population by any standards in the entire history of mankind.
There is an excellent article by Frederick Forsyth
http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/78095/Frederick-Forsyth
Extract:
Back then, in 1948, the Palestinians listened to the fiercely pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Al Husseini. He actually urged Palestinians to quit their farms and homes and flee across the Jordan on the grounds that the war that four Arab nations would launch on Independence Day would enable them all to return in triumph when the last Jew had been swept into the sea within a month.
The war was duly launched on May 15 but did not work out quite as planned. It lasted until December and when it finally petered out, the Israelis had gained more ground than they lost, but not Jerusalem. The ousted Palestinians, estimated at 145,000, were then herded • not by the Jews but by their fellow Arabs • into concentration camps called ”refugee camps” and there, now numbering millions, they still eke out miserable lives.
Instead of absorbing the displaced persons (DPs) as we Europeans absorbed 13 million DPs after the Second World War, the surrounding Arab states kept them penned in misery as a demonstration to the world.
Roger Reid. Just a quick question about your figures. Please tell me where I have gone wrong.
With a population increase rate of 1.02 how can the Palestinian ‘refugeees’ go from 145,000 to several million?
Every time I see a Palestinian family on the BBC, the number of children is closer to Terry Johnson’s estimate than Reger Reid’s. The scary part of Roger Reid’s figures is the 3.5 one.
With a population increase rate of 1.02 how can the Palestinian ‘refugeees’ go from 145,000 to several million?
Bob, son of Bob | 27.01.09 – 11:39 am
Over reporting? The Million Person Gap
UNRWA’s definition of a refugee also covers the descendants through the male line of persons who became refugees in 1948. The number of registered Palestine refugees has subsequently grown from 914,000 in 1950 to more than 4.6 million in 2008, and continues to rise due to natural population growth.
UNWRA never officially acknowledges that they have no way to really check how many ‘Palestinians’ actually exist now and how many in 1948 and how much aid really reaches them. Corruption ensures high figures.
Pride of the anything you can do I can do better type: If the Israelis have reached seven million then dammit the Palestinians must have reached the same figure.
BTW Estimates of how many refugees were displaced in 1948 range from 367,000 to over 950,000. I don’t know where the 145K figure came in.
Bob, son of Bob | 27.01.09 – 11:39 am & deegee | 27.01.09 – 12:06 pm
Please tell me where I have gone wrong.
The average Gazan Muslim woman will have 5 children in her lifetime.
By comparison, the average Jewish Israeli woman will have 2.7 children.
Infant mortality rates are probably rather lower in Israel • you could check the Lancet for comparisons.
Pre-48 there were approximately 140,000 Arab residents of the Gaza district. Estimates of the number of refugees moving to Gaza in 48 range from 145,000 to 250,000.
It’s probable that the larger refugee figures include refugees from the northern part of the old Gaza district , which is now in Israel. So they shouldn’t be double counted.
The population today is 1.4 m
Te Jewish population of Israel has risen from 800,000 in 1948 to 5.5 million.
The Jewish population of Beersheba in 1948 was 510. Today it is 180,000 +
In 1948-9 the entire Arab population of Beersheba (92.5% of the town’s total population) was transported to the Gaza strip.
These Arabs didn’t run away in response to Arab leaders telling them to flee.
They stayed put throughout the war.
There were some injustices, you know.
Please tell me where I have gone wrong.
Roger Reid | 27.01.09 – 12:38 pm
1) You have completely ignored positive and negative immigration. In Israel this is freely acknowledged and in Gaza ignored. Put simply many Gazans have left but they are still ‘on the books’ and ‘receiving’ aid.
2) The definition of family is unresolved. Most Gazans are Muslims and many have more than one wife. Often extended family (several generations) lives in the same dwelling. Figures assuming a nuclear family of mother, father and kids may not be appropriate.
3) Infant mortality rates dropped enormously during the Israeli years but I can’t access Lancet for exact figures.
4) You really have to read the article I linked:
Bennett Zimmerman, Roberta Seid and Michael L. Wise,
The Million Person Gap: The Arab Population in the West Bank and Gaza
“Can this be true?”
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/01/can-this-be-true.html
I did some rudimentary research with a stopwatch last night, and discovered that by whipping up this faux storm the BBC actually increased terrestrial prime-time coverage of the DEC appeal by 9mins 20seconds (in fact it was more than this, as I didn’t include ITV’s 10PM). Contrived, much? Here’s my article:
http://riverscrap.typepad.com/home/2009/01/bbc-accused-of-hypocrisy-over-gaza-appeal-boycott.html
Out of the 1.4 million, how many are reasonable people would choose peace and prosperity, and how many would prefer war with the possibility of the ‘honour and glory’ of complete victory, even if it takes another 1000 years, or it never happens?
I wonder if the proportion of BBC reporters in Gaza who would prefer war is more, or less than in the general Palestinian population.
I wonder how long I would last if I went to Gazza and tried to carry out a survey for myself by interviewing general members of the public.
I wonder if the Palestinians are grateful towards us in the West for all the aid our governments have given them on our behalf. Given the amount received so far, they must be extremely grateful and feeling very kindly towards us.
A question for any muslim scholars present, re the 72 virgins. Do you have to accept whatever age range is provided when you get there, or can you specify the ages? Can you go down to as young as 9 for all of them? I believe there is a precedent.
My brother has been attending the mosque a lot recently and it has made him want to blow himself up too. But he is too young to be interested in girls. He wants to know if he can have 72 Playstations instead.
RE: Terry Johnson | 27.01.09 – 4:21 am & Grant | 27.01.09 – 10:46 am
Check your statistics before you project how ignorant you are on the topic you engage a discussion in. Egypt and Jordan? What was the 6-day war all about then? What was the Balfour declaration of 1917 all about? What side of the fence were Egypt and Jordan when these events took place? What stupid fabricated drivel you spout which highlights the sheer idiocy rife in the blind-followers of the Zionist death-cult.
Secondly; how can the Palestinians create an economic life for themselves when upon them democratically electing Hamas as their government; who built Universities, Hospitals, Orphanages, etc; Israel cowardly bombs them (with civilians and children inside I might add) from hundreds of feet up in the sky? Don’t say “because Hamas uses them as launching pads”; because it has already been exposed how in the UN school sheltering children you child-murderers bombed, there were witnesses saying that Hamas militants were NOT occupying the school in any way, shape or form. In other words; you’re all parasitical massacring, child-murdering, annexing, thieving, torturing, homes-bulldozing, displacing, trespassing and oppressive tyrants; who shamelessly lie to try and justify your immoral massacring of innocent civilians and children whose land you stole and have been squatting on for half a century. Call this a “rant” if it lifts the complex of these home truths off your shoulders, but you all know it’s true • even if you try to failingly twist the reality.
How hypocritical and ironic that you refer to the Palestinians as Parasites. Check the Oxford dictionary and read what the definition is:
• noun: a person who lives off or exploits others.
This clearly describes the state of Israel and their trespassing inhabitants. You have exploited the Palestinians via their lesser-equipped armoury, by leeching off your puppet-masters for military (i.e. massacre) aid of over a billion US dollars annually, and you live off what is theirs by occupying their country and leeching off their land.
As for the term Genocide, which I used accurately and correctly. What does the Oxford English dictionary define it as?
• noun the deliberate killing of a very large number of people from a particular ethnic group or nation.
Over 400 babies and children (alone) died, let alone the rest. The Israeli army sealed off access to foreign journalists in an effort to stem the flow of information leaving the region, which would expose the genocide they were perpetrating; hoping that the masses would be “kept in a state of festering ignorance by their political leaders and Zionist clerics”. Now there are reports of indiscriminate firing into groups of women and children and the use of white phosphorus in highly populated areas. Furthermore, the Israeli government has stated that it will protect its soldiers from any international courts that govern warfare. So yes, it was a genocide and the genocide has been occurring against the Arabic ethnic group belonging to the occupied Palestinian nation.
Don’t pull the anti-semite card out either. I could easily bat the “Islamophobe” one back. Any Anti-Semitism is merely the reaping of what you yourselves have sown. You want to whinge about concentration camps from over half a century ago; why should anyone show you an ounce of empathy when you cause the same effects as what happened to your ancestors in World War 2. Go to Germany if you want reparations; and in the meantime you don’t possess anything in this world that would compensate the Palestinians for what you owe them. In the meantime, those with an ounce of sanity will upon looking at the reality, contemplating on whether Hitler actually had a point.
RE: deegee | 27.01.09 – 7:03 am
The fact other maggots (such as the above referenced) on this cesspool of filth is inaugurating the discussion on emphasizing the way you write a lower case ‘p’ when writing Prophet Muhammad (SAW) proves how pathetic, pitiable and laughable you scum-of-the-earth truly are.
David Preiser (USA) | 27.01.09 – 1:16 am
“We want less people to die than you do, I bet.”
Regardless of whatever your perception of what I apparently “want”; the statistics prove otherwise, don’t they David?
Robert S. McNamara | 27.01.09 – 1:23 am |
The Palestinians already receive the most aid per capita of any country (or in their case self-created festering wasteland quasi-country) – what’s a few million (that this appeal’ll raise) more? I mean all that money is doing them so much good. It warms the cockles of my heart to see them pouring through the border with Egypt (when they elect to open it) to buy essentials like superbikes, big-screen TVs and mobile phones. Those things ain’t cheap.
Speaking of which, the EU guy who finally came out and said that we have to blame Hamas as well mentioned that the EU gives 600 to 700m euros every year, and were going to add another 60m this time. The rest of the world gives that much and more. Where is all that money going? It’s simply not credible that 700m €pa, never mind the rest of it, is such a tiny amount that baby’s milk and flour must be smuggled in or sent by aid agencies.
Where’s all that money going, Jeremy Bowen? If you truly cared about the Palestinian people for their own sake, you’d find out.
Since I don’t like to see General Comments threads fill up with this topic any more than anyone else, I’m putting this here.
Even the simplest things are beyond BBC sub-editors when it comes to Israel and Gaza. This latest report about an attack on the border needs a headline. An Israeli soldier was killed, and three others injured in a bomb attack on their patrol.
Two dead in Gaza border violence
Why “two dead”? Because the BBC likes its quotidian blood libel:
Israeli troops crossed into Gaza looking for the militants who carried out the attack, Israeli defence officials said.
Palestinian residents of Kissufim, the border crossing into Gaza near where the blast hit the Israeli patrol, said they could hear Israeli helicopters circling overhead and the sound of heavy gunfire.
Medics in Gaza said a Palestinian farmer was killed by gunfire.
Borders now closed, aid agencies struggling, etc.
Yes, Israeli soldiers always shoot farmers indiscriminately. Every IDF soldier I’ve ever met loves “Apocalypse Now”, and behaves accordingly.
So, what should be a story about the anonymous militants (no group admitted the attack, yeah) focuses instead on Israeli nastiness. I mean, they can always find somebody to say the Israelis killed somebody today, so it’s a no-brainer.
Oh, wait. It’s just the balance we’ve all been claiming to want, right?
Bilal
your knowledge is outstanding –please accept my humble apologies for daring to live on the same planet as such a prodigious intellectual.
Now please go and sign up for your local Alqueda suicide group.
RE: frankos | 27.01.09 – 3:00 pm
The fact you have resorted to stereotypical snide remarks proves the fact you’ve lost the debate. Lol.
I hit “Publish” instead of “Preview”, and left out the most important part of the above BBC blood libel report.
As usual, they give the body count of “nearly 1300 Palestinians and 10 Israeli soldiers were killed. Three Israeli civilians were killed by rocket fire from Gaza in the same period.
Notice the distinction. How many of those 1300 Palestinians were Hamas members or “militants” or fighters, BBC? Don’t you want the public to know that? Isn’t that equally important?
No. The BBC is interested only in the body count, in blood libel. I’d like to hear a real explanation of why they present the figures in such a blatantly false manner.
Yes, I’m saying it’s blood libel. Newssniffer is particularly helpful here. In Version 6 of this report, the BBC said:
Medics in Gaza said the Palestinian killed was a farmer caught in an exchange of fire between Israeli soldiers and militants.
That’s a bit different from the current Medics in Gaza said a Palestinian farmer was killed by gunfire.
Huge difference, really. Not only that, but by looking at the different versions, one can see that originally the headline and story was “Israeli soldier killed”. Since that’s not good enough, they had to find way to balance it out.
Of course, none of the versions contain any honesty about the Palestinian casualties. As usual, the public is left to assume that they’re all innocent victims.
Anonymous | 27.01.09 – 12:49 pm |
Te Jewish population of Israel has risen from 800,000 in 1948 to 5.5 million.
Ever heard of immigration?
Too much of a coward even to come up with an alias before you post such idiocy?
Yes, you scoundrels!
Check the Oxford dictionary and read what the definition is:
Parasites:
• noun: a person who lives off or exploits others.
Palestinians: A Proper noun: A person or persons who follow a peaceful religion and who wish to drive the Jews into the sea.
If are genetically related to the Palestinians, you have rights over land by virtue of your genetic ancestry. That alone entitles to to specific land rights.
Jews: Proper Noun: A race which has no rights to any lands.
Bomb: noun: a device or set of devices to be self-connected to a muslim who has spent too much time in the mosque.
English: A Proper noun referring to a race which does not have rights to ancestral lands according to their genetic make up – that would be racist.
BBC noun: an organisation also known as the Guardian of the airwaves
BBC research assistant | 27.01.09 – 3:24 pm
Meanwhile Schneerson from Bobruisk and Horvitz from Lvov are entitled to free real estate in Palestine because the sky fairy promised it to their ancestors?