Just a reminder that we go live again here on Biased BBC tomorrow night and this time I will have another moderator to help me so let’s make this the biggest and best liveblog yet. Here’s the panel for tomorrow night!
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Ole’ Farmer Brown asks the Fox’s to guard the Hen house.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5614639.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
Brown: “What do we do?”
Banker: “Give more money to the banks.”
I think every British citizen should, as soon as the opportunity arises, move to foreign banks such as the excellent Santander.
Let the British banking “industry” die, we can use foreign banks instead.
Professor Arnold J Toynbee, at the 4th Annual Conference of Institutions of International Relations, held in Copenhagen 8th-10th June 1931, stated the following:
‘We are at present working, discreetly but with all our might, to wrest the mysterious political force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local national states of our world. AND ALL THE TIME WE ARE DENYING WITH OUR LIPS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR HANDS…. The… local states of the world will no doubt survive as administrative conveniences, but sooner or later sovereignty will depart from them….’
To me, that is treason – the Toynbees are treasonous filth who hate this country and its indigenous people.
Allan@Oslo | 30.01.09 – 8:25 am
To me, that is treason –
Are you a lefty? Back in the 30s that was known as good, old-fashioned British Imperialism. It is a tragedy for the world that it did not survive.
Toynbee may have had some odd ideas, but he anticipated the ‘clash of civilizations’ long before Sam Huntingdon.
Nor was he antisemitic. When he called the Jewish Diaspora a ‘fossil’, he was not insulting it. The context was a discussion of the Parsees, whom he likened to the Jews and the Nestorians and Monophysite Christians as a people who’s culture lived on for more than a thousand years (like a fossil) after their lands were lost, kingdoms/empires all gone. Those Jews who don’t want always to play the victim and bemoan their grievances have taken it as a compliment.
In fact, when Israel was established, Toynbee welcomed it. Though this was a change of mind – he had resisted setting up any more nation states.
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And this wanker ‘offered peace’.
Abu Cuffer: I lie. It’s what I do.
Are you a lefty? Back in the 30s that was known as good, old-fashioned British Imperialism. It is a tragedy for the world that it did not survive.
Oh yes, no other nation but Britain is allowed to have independence. I can see how it’s a tragedy that this fascist idea didn’t survive.
Nor was he antisemitic…In fact, when Israel was established, Toynbee welcomed it.
Oh really? I remember reading where he opposed the Joos having an independent state.
Owl of Minerva – you are writing absolute nonsense. Toynbee’s own words condemn him for the traitor that he was. He also admits lying and dissimulation – in his own words. The conference where Toynbee revealed the intentions of the left was in Copenhagen. As you know, Copenhagen is in Denmark and Denmark was not part of the British Empire.
Grant
I fear that Obama will be tested by Alqueda and other protagonists very soon. He will then be left in the quandry Bush was –to attack or endlessly negotiate –either way he will lose Obamaphiles.
Wonder when the BBC will start seeing his Achilles heel?
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Nearly Oxfordian:
The same Government that published it was busy drafting the Balfour Declaration at the same time
Governments are made up of factions.
Nearly Oxfordian | 29.01.09 – 10:51 pm | #
Are you some form of public information service?.
frankos 1:13
So true !!
Nothing about Obama’s background leads me to believe he can deal with people like Putin.
( By the way I am a fan of Putin, wish he was PM of UK ! ).
But, Obama will need to get out of his pram !
Sorry to see that you need all the dots joined up for you, boxerdogsareclever.
By the way I am a fan of Putin
A mass-murdering gangster – yes, just what we need. It’s bad enough to have incompetent gangsters without wishing for competent ones.
frankos
PS.
Normally what happens with new Presidents , or PMs, is that they get a serious briefing from the intelligence services and they start to see a World they did’t know existed.
The classic example in recent UK history, was David Owen !
Allan@Oslo | 30.01.09 – 12:35 pm
Arnold J Toynbee:
“The last stage but one of every civilisation, is characterised by the forced political unification
of its constituent parts, into a single greater whole.”
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Arnold.Toynbee.Quote.C36C
suggests that far from being a sell-out-to-Brussels type, he would probably be in UKIP if he were alive today as the Lisbon Treaty would mark the penultimate stage in European Civilization.