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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7864733.stm
haha stupid smutty americans say the BBC
actually it was a tiny proportion of a tiny proportion of a tiny proportion of the american viewers of the superbowl and this sort of thing has actually happened elsewhere before even in the uk
still nice chance to have a go at the americans without having a pop at obama eh BBC?
I wonder if the BBC will be reporting on the Sainted one keeping rendition flights open?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1133883/Barack-Obama-preserves-CIA-renditions-keeps-elements-Bushs-war-terror.html
I was also watching Fox the other day where some commentators (including Dems) were saying Obama is already dragging his heels about getting out of Iraq in 16 months as he promised that he will slow down the closing of Gitmo and much of Bush’s policies on terrorism will remain.
The BBC must be very cross with the planet for cooling down when it is supposed to be warming.
I imagine a couple of global warming stories will have to be quietly put on a shelf until we have some warmer weather.
Martin 12:30
“Up in Lincolnshire”. You mean “down in Lincolnshire” !
Anyway, it is Russian snow, not Scottish ! Either way, it is the wrong kind of snow.
But you are right, Brown is facing in many directions at the same time, amusing, but dangerous.
News24 have just been over to Moscow for reaction to how England seems to have fallen apart under today’s snow. “Oh, it’s minus 23, and everyone copes here,” said the correspondent.
Wasn’t Moscow being held up recently as a prime example of record high temperatures?
[It was also very depressing how often “Y’know” and “kinda” kept being used – but that’s just me being old-fashioned.]
The so-called ‘Human Rights Watch’ have flip-flopped and now consider rendition “legitimate”. Obama brings change!
http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/02/major-flip-flop-by-human-rights-watch.html
Stick the following into google:
site:news.bbc.co.uk “human rights watch” rendition
“Results 1 – 10 of about 121”
Add “advocacy” to the search and you only get two results. One of those occasions is the BBC mentioning the job description of a HRW employee… the other is the HRW world report hosted by the BBC:
Click to access 31_01_08_hrw_annualreport.pdf
Why is the British TV taxpayer subsidising an organisation with funding from George Soros and an annual budget of $50m?
So, that’s 121-1 times the BBC have referenced a umanritesgrup without clearly stating its advocacy role as an attack dog for the left.
Alex R | 02.02.09 – 12:28 pm
“I bet Gordon Brown personally made it snow, just to keep the recession off the news!”
The Beeb told us George Bush was to blame for Hurricane Katrina .
How can Brown escape their logic ?
Man, this Global Warming! is really depressing me. I’ve just ordered 20 copies of ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ a case of CFL lightbulbs, and invested some money in a company (I’m not sure just what they do, but they have ‘Eco’ in their name and their CEO has dreadlocks, a scraggly beard, a Che Guevara t-shirt, a kaffiyeh and a vacant look, as though he’s done too much acid, in his eye. So you know that whatever it is they do, they’re kicking Global Warming! in the spuds. Hard). I urge you all to do the same. With any luck, it’ll have the desired effect and I’ll be able to get my car out of the drive tomorrow.
Alan Healy: Don’t forget the BBC actually blamed George Boosh for all climate change.
Rich beeboids flying all over the world in their thousands of course don’t contribute anything to climate change.
The amount of fuss that the BBC is making over a bit of snow is ridiculous all that “ooh, it’s snowing, don’t travel” for half of the 1 o’clock news. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mandelson has phoned them up and asked them to massively exaggerate the snow in the hope of discouraging the refinery protesters from holding their protest and to get the protests off the top story slot.
Of course here’s a fuss. It’s happenig in London!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s where Beeboids live, so of course it’s a major story!!!!!
Caveman,
The BBC has become so desperate for any pro AGW/MMCC news its started making it up in ‘drop the dead donkey’ style. Obviously faked up and ill thought out stories that starts with a supposed effect and then hidden within is the phrase if & could & may, IF the poles melt, IF temperatures rise, IFs and more IFs!
As the BBC/AGW believers keep smashing their collective heads against the brick wall that is the iron clad law of observed reality they seem to have developed collective brain damage!
Socialism is a mental illness? Certainly the AGW/MMCC believers make the mistake of all children since time began ‘wishing it dont make it so’ the believers are now coming face to face with cold hard reality, it happens everytime, they have always been unable to face upto the fact that their belief systems are flawed.
History has shown us time and time again that socialism is evil and a flawed ideology yet time after time the socialists are invited back to make the same mess time and time again, you have to wonder who the real idiots are, them for selling their delluded fantasies or us for buying into them?
Just watched BBC news at 6.
The first 17 minutes devoted to snow. Quick clip of the “workers protests”, then, with big smile on his face, Alagiah, boosts Brown’s meeting with the Chinese PM.
To be fair they reported the Tibet protests and also that a shoe was thrown at the Chinese PM, but all very briefly.
And nothing about the RECESSION !!!
But, also nothing about Gaza. Maybe some Israeli successes, or Bowen and his cronies on a bit of R and R somewhere ?
The BBC must be very cross with the planet for cooling down when it is supposed to be warming
Unfortunately for your theory, it is not ‘cooling down’ just because you’ve had an inch of snow in Basingstoke.
But don’t let facts stand in the way of your nonsense.
Chuffer: Yes, the BBC sent that tosser Harrabin to Moscow just before Christmas to tell us (no doubt he and his overpaid crew went first class) that Moscow was a classic example of climate change as there was no snow. A few days later it snowed in Moscow and now of course the place looks like the Arctic.
Where’s Harrabin? Probably flying (first class of course) to Australia to lie to us that the heat wave in Australia is all now to car drivers and meat eaters.
Nearly Oxfordian:
“…Unfortunately for your theory, it is not ‘cooling down’ just because you’ve had an inch of snow in Basingstoke…”
Perhaps not, but then again the BBC keep using that principle of one off events to claim that the planet is warming up. How often has tosser Harrabin linked the summer floods ot climate change? Yet most of us know that the flooding is caused by over population, the concreting over of large areas of land and Victorian drains that get overloaded. But that doesn’t fit with the BBC line on climate change.
Can’t have it both ways.
I heard some liberal moron on the BBC the other day talking about “How can we reverse climate change?”
What like how can we reverse the tides?
Without going over old ground yet again, the BBC have lost all credibility on climate change when their climate analyst has a poor degree in English and no science background.
Trying to claim that some flowers blooming early at Kew gardens (as Harrabin did last year) is a prime example of climate change just devalues the debate.
“Up in Lincolnshire”. You mean “down in Lincolnshire” !
But you are right, Brown is facing in many directions at the same time, amusing, but dangerous.
Grant | 02.02.09 – 2:58 pm |
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It’s well known that even places that are down can be up and vice versa. Going “up west” or “down town” has little to do with real up or down. And there is a famous electric brae in Scotland that is up and down and all over the place all at the same time…or something.
Brown facing many ways at once, (however he manages that), reminds me of the man who got on his horse and galloped off in all directions.
You have seriously lost the plot now Atlas. Your last posting was borderline messianic.
What exactly is wrong with being messianic?
It is whether I am materially correct that matters, or certainly should matter to YOU and your family.
Please keep this next statement under your hat.
When saying certain things in public it is not a bad idea to appear to be more then slightly unhinged. David Icke for example among countless others. If people generally started taking me too seriously I would have to shut up, before I get shut up. Get IT?
I do not expect a medal, or pay, do not have a book coming out, and are not up for election to anything, and never will be. Therefore what you think of me is of absolutely no importance whatsoever.
All I ask you to do, is to read it, and start THINKING and researching for yourself.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to be well informed and not come to very similar conclusions.
Very unfortunately for us, history as it is presented to us bares very little resemblance to our actual real history.
As Churchill once famously said.
“History is written by the winners. I know because I am going to write it.”
Which of course he then did. 99.9% of which was most likely the truth. It is the .01% that he deliberately failed to mention, that is the bit that really matters.
Atlas, the problem with being messianic is it kind of dilutes your credibility.
We know you are RIGHT, you are always telling us, albeit at the expense of most of us being wrong.
However, it seems ironic that you choose to deliver the epistles of conspiracy theories to the apostles on the B-BBC forum. Seems a bit low rent for someone of such omniscient stature.
The Childrens society produced a report that said working women are damaging childhood, but of course this doesn’t fit into the political agenda of the BBC. So the BBC have spun it in their usual left wing slant as “selfish adults damage childhood” and singled out “unprincipled advertising, too much competition in education and income inequality” (hint hint blame capitalism). Then it says some of the findings of the report are “controversial” (hint controversial = doesn’t fit into the BBC’s left wing political agenda). The report’s findings on working mothers are “controversial”.
Here is a “controversial” quote from a non-BBC news source that Mark Easton would disapprove of:
Working women ‘damaging children’
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5h2BbnjNvD00HWfk85fiHT7mRkY1Q
Women’s increasing economic independence from their male partners is contributing to family break-up which is in turn damaging children, according to a wide-ranging survey into British childhood.
More mothers of babies under 12 months old now work than do not and their children are being looked after in childcare rather than by their parents, the report notes.
These two major changes in society have altered the face of childhood and family life in Britain, according to A Good Childhood, produced for The Children’s Society.
Here is a less “controversial” quote from the state broadcaster:
Selfish adults ‘damage childhood’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7861762.stm
The aggressive pursuit of personal success by adults is now the greatest threat to British children, a major independent report on childhood says.
It calls for a sea-change in social attitudes and policies to counter the damage done to children by society.
Family break-up, unprincipled advertising, too much competition in education and income inequality are mentioned as big contributing factors.
A panel of independent experts carried out the study over three years.
The report, called The Good Childhood Inquiry and commissioned by the Children’s Society
These two major changes in society have altered the face of childhood and family life in Britain, according to A Good Childhood, produced for The Children’s Society.
Nice analysis Bias Must End.
I’d e-mail the BBC and ask them why they’ve been caught with their pants down again but they’d just deny it.
I hesitate to enter debate with my old chum n ox., but here goes:
But I thought the big news in the world of Global Climate Study was that the world IS cooling down, and has been for eight years or so, depite rising levels of carbon dioxide.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23411799-7583,00.html
-Just for the record, BBC:
this recent BBC News web-page, which provides an Al-Jazeera Islamic TV channel type ‘report’, received full positive prominence on Ahmadinejad’s PRESS TV channel today:
The BBC ‘report’ in question, which PRESS TV likes so much:
“Arab press praises Erdogan”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7860328.stm
The Labour government (led by the Brown-Miliband appeasers of Turkey), together with their supporters at the BBC, will do their utmost to make sure that the following does not come true, and the BBC decides not to discuss it. BBC licencepayers’ interests come last.-
‘Haaretz’:
“Israel: Erdogan’s Davos behavior may ruin Turkey’s EU chances”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1060369.html
If the weather is unseasonably warm then its due to Climate Change, if the weather is unseasonably cold then it’s due to Climate Change, if the weather is unseasonably wet then it’s due to Climate Change, if the weather is unseasonably dry then it’s due to Climate Change. Don’t you realise that it has been decided that Climate Change is an indisputable fact, that way Green taxes can be imposed.
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Rich beeboids flying all over the world in their thousands of course don’t contribute anything to climate change.
martin | 02.02.09 – 5:00 pm |
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(I wish I could do italics like N.O. does, but I cannot work out how to)
Imagine asking a BBC executive to explain why he is damaging our planet whilst he is sitting back relaxing on his flight. He would explain that his employer (ie you) buys ‘carbon credits’ which means they pay someone somewhere some money and in a complicated system the CO2 is cancelled out carefully with some CO2 non-production somewhere else. In fact, if you pay a bit extra, it follows that you have actually reduced the amount of CO2 by the time the plane lands.
Either that will be his reply, or he will say ‘F** O**! Get out of first class.
Caveman: The BBC doesn’t do Carbon credits. I believe Sky does, but the Caron credit system is a sham. Planting trees to offset your Carbon emissions is just leftie twaddle. It assumes that the trees will be around for long enough to take out the CO2 that the person offsetting generates and the CO2 is still put into the atmosphere to start with.
The BBC’s answer to Carbon reduction is easy. Unwashed white working class scum don’t fly, whilst leftie veggie eating rich beeboids continue to fly first class.
i thought i’d bring you this nugget .. .seems like the eco-loonies are hell bent on breeding themselves to extinction.
http://gpso.wordpress.com/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article5627484.ece
“DR PIPPA HAYES, a Devon GP, has a conscientious objection. She believes couples should restrict their families to two children – and says she would not help to provide fertility treatment for women who want to have exceptionally large families.
Hayes is a member of the Optimum Population Trust, a campaign group that tells couples to “stop at two”. Membership of the group has doubled in the past 12 months to about 1,000 and it aims to double its membership to 2,000 this year.”
how wonderful. my grandchildren will be free of eco-madness hopefully. we will have outbreeded the ecoloons…
Unwashed white working class scum don’t fly, whilst leftie veggie eating rich beeboids continue to fly first class.
martin | 02.02.09 – 10:11 pm | #
i’m sensing a 17th century trend here..
“let them eat cake”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/you-can-go-and-work-in-europe-mandelson-tells-strikers-1522527.html
OH MY GOD..
the bbc just called the superbowl and the NFL
“sporting socialism”
in BIG WHITE LETTERS..
deadly serious!!! they just did it.
WORDS FAIL ME…
Did anybody else catch the little slip on BBC Breakfast this morning ?
An item on work/life balance with a vox-popper asking members of the public the question:
“Which country in the EU works the longest hours ?”
Answered without exception: “The UK” (which is the answer I’d have given too, if asked).
Back to Bill in the studio to give us the answer:
“Actually, it’s Turkey !”
So they’re already in are they ? I must have missed that.
archduke: I saw that as well. At least we got a clip of some horny looking cheerleaders. I guess in beeboid land they’d be transvestites.
The report was utter tripe from that idiot Mihar Bose or whatever his name is.
Now on Newsnight the BBC are putting the boot into the strikers suggesting they are ‘racists’ so that makes it OK for the BBC to attack them and stick up for McFatty one eye.
Yay!! Paxo calling the Union bloke a Xenophobe!!
So now the BBC have finally worked out how to back Liebour.
You lot striking are just WHITE RACIST SCUM.
So now all beeboids have wiped Gordon’s bottom.
All is well again in Beeboid land. job done.
Martin – It was not me speaking, I was mocking what the BBC-type of character says. I don’t treat carbon trading seriously – in fact I name it the top scam ever. Not only are you buying air, you are buying air that does not even exist yet.
But just suppose for a minute you have to treat it seriously. In that case, surely it follows that the trees that get planted must NOT be burned, or be used for furniture or buildings or paper that might get burned, as, if this happens, all the CO2 will just go straight back in the air. It is essential therefore that the trees when grown are buried somewhere. But where?
Who said all those selfish trees could steal all that carbon thousands of years ago and hide it underground in the form of gas and coal? Release the stolen carbon back to where it was in the first place! Give the air its carbon back! Let the plants grow faster again like in old times.
Cassandra 6:38 – is socialism a mental illness?
Or it could be caused by certain human genes? In primitive times the gene that gives you an urge to steal could be quite rewarding, provided there are more providers than takers. Sit around whilst the hard working ones build up their food stores, then just march around in a gang and help yourself.
If the gene theory is correct, then today the same gene might expresses itself not as straightforward pillaging, but as an urge for socialism. Everyone is in favour of fairness and a reasonable amount of wealth redistribution, but when you have the socialist way of thinking from your genes it can make you can take redistribution too far, and, even worse, you can even end up with a strange desire to destroy anything that is better or appears superior. In fact you will shudder when you even hear the word ‘superior’. You will also feel drawn towards a large state-run organisation that will help you put your urges into practice.
oh dear – newsnight doesnt understand the concept of a “limited company”
somehow, its a “wrong” thing for a limited company to go bankrupt while oweing money to suppliers.
/me bashing my head against the wall now.. i dont need to educate anyone on here on how the capitalist system works.
martin | 02.02.09 – 10:47 pm |
martin – it is very worrying. rather than engaging with the workers, who have legitimate concerns – they choose to have a conflict.
the strikers have a point – whats the stop employers shipping in Turks in hotel ships when turkey joins the EU. and the turks number in the 80 million…
i think its the hotel ship stuff that really gets on their goat. wouldnt be so bad if they had italians mixed up with the brits, and everyone getting paid the same and with the same conditions.
instead – they get called xenophobes.
at this stage, i think its goading – its DARING them to vote BNP.. and when that happens above a certain percentage threshold (say 10 per cent) .. then the civil contingencies bill kicks into action.
now newsnight is on about “overpopulation”..
yeah – i’ve walked into a 1970s discussion.
these fascist ecoloons never give up do they?
Photos the bBC won’t show
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0aoc4084Le3fv
I wonder if that sign is aimed at Israel troops .
Abu Bowen CAIR to comment.
Stories the bBC won’t report from Gaza.
Fatah has released a list of 181 attacks carried out by Hamas against Fatah terrorists in Gaza during the Cast Lead counterterror operation in the area. Spokesman Ziyad Abu-Ein encouraged reporters and international organizations to contact the 181 victims or their survivors to verify the stories.
According to the list, 11 Fatah members were murdered by Hamas during Cast Lead, 58 were shot in the feet or legs, and 112 had their legs broken.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/160193
Everyone is in favour of fairness and a reasonable amount of wealth redistribution,
Caveman | 02.02.09 – 11:11 pm
my genes must be different so – i dont believe in “fairness”. i believe in competition. tis the only way we humans have progressed. and no matter what religion or politics has happened, it has always been the case.
in fact, when “fairness” started to overcome the competitive element, our civilisations declined and destroyed themselves.
a prime example being the Roman Empire.
archduke: That woman on with Paxo and the eco loon was weird. Notice how she refused to even look at eco loon once? Then at the end she gave her feminist rant.
Perhaps she felt it beneath herself to talk to a mere ‘male’?
Caveman: I know what you mean. Thing is the BBC actually has NO policy on reducing its Carbon footprint. Paxman has even mentioned it.
That’s the problem with rich Socialists at the BBC, the ‘sacrifice’ has to come from the ‘white scum’. Funny thing is that’s just what Stalin thought as well.
pounce | 02.02.09 – 11:22 pm
and several were shot dead , while wounded, in a gaza hospital. by hamas prowling hospitals for “fatah informers”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/world/middleeast/30mideast.html?_r=2
the following has NEVER been followed up or reported on by the BBC..
it documents real war crimes. or course , the UN ignores it.
and this is the NEW YORK TIMES – the most liberal newspaper in the U.S.
“On Monday, Dr. Ashour was not the only official in charge. Armed Hamas militants in civilian clothes roamed the halls. Asked their function, they said it was to provide security. But there was internal bloodletting under way.
In the fourth-floor orthopedic section, a woman in her late 20s asked a militant to let her see Saleh Hajoj, her 32-year-old husband. She was turned away and left the hospital. Fifteen minutes later, Mr. Hajoj was carried out by young men pretending to transfer him to another ward. As he lay on the stretcher, he was shot in the left side of the head.
Mr. Hajoj, like five others killed at the hospital this way in 24 hours, was accused of collaboration with Israel. He had been in the central prison awaiting trial by Hamas judges; when Israel destroyed the prison on Sunday he and the others were transferred to the hospital. But their trials were short-circuited.”
martin | 02.02.09 – 11:26 pm
indeed.. very odd. i note that they had no religious figure on to argue against the loony ideas..
would have liked to have an articulate catholic on instead. sanctity of human life and all that…
“instead – they get called xenophobes.”
These slurs are used by all loons to end an argument they cannot win.
Frightened you are loosing your culture? Your a racist
Frightened of your country being run by a unelected bunch of bureaucrats in Brussels? Your a little Englander
Frightened of losing your job to underpaid migrant labour? Your a xenophobe.
Believe that a child should have a mother and father? Your a bigot.
Everyone is in favour of fairness and a reasonable amount of wealth redistribution,
Seems a bit of a BBC mantra –except when they are the ones having to resdistribute
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archduke: now newsnight is on about “overpopulation”..
yeah – i’ve walked into a 1970s discussion. – 11:21 pm | #
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I remember they said copper was going to run out due to the demand from telecommunications, as were loads of other rare metals for various other reasons. Now, instead of copper in telecommunications, we use optical fibres. They make a big fuss when the scare comes out, but 30 years later no-one ever comes back to admit they were wrong.
I think what they must have meant was if the state was in charge of everything we would run out.
pounce | 02.02.09 – 11:21 pm |
Abu Bowen CAIR to comment.
Speaking of CAIR, I don’t suppose the BBC has informed your countrymen of the following?
FBI Cuts Ties With CAIR Following Terror Financing Trial
Seeing as how CAIR is the US equivalent of the MCB and all.
I’m unable to stomach listening to Katty Kay’s introduction on BBC World Propaganda America to the segment celebrating – yes, celebrating, as there is no other word to describe the attitude on display – the tenth anniversary of the rule of BBC beloved Hugo Chavez. I’ve said before that Katty isn’t as bad as Matty with the sneering and editorializing, but she very obviously brought a smile out as she introduced the segment about the “controversial and confrontational” dictator…er…leader. It’s just like Castro, where the Beeboids actually get a kick out of reporting that he’s still in power. Editorializing the news, as usual at the BBC.
Katty said that while much of the world viewed Chavez as controversial, “most Venezuelans regard him as a hero.” Now, I would almost be willing to accept this as some sort of over-enthusiastic attempt to provide balance, as there is – on paper – an argument that this is merely a subjective matter. But when did anyone ever hear the BBC qualify George Bush’s reputation in such a way? Never. It’s always “the grim last eight years”, and all that crap. Any mention of US citizens who might have supported him was always colored with contempt.
But not with Hugo the BBC hero.