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  1. David Preiser (USA) says:

    What a surprise. I just posted this comment, and now I find this:

    Q&A Obama stimulus plan

    According to the independent Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the stimulus package is likely to reduce the severity of the recession, although not eliminate its impact entirely.

    A total lie.

    There are a couple of other gross misrepresentations and fudges, but what’s the point of mentioning them when there’s this big, honking lie?

    It’s been 20 Days of Freedom from the tyranny of George Bush, BBC. You don’t have to lie anymore. Or do you?

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  2. Zevilyn says:

    Obama’s stimulus package probably won’t work, just as Hank Paulson’s “Give Taxpayers Money to my Wall Street Buddies” TARP has been an utter failure.
    Such epic fails should be named after the master of economic stupidity, Ben Bernanke. Brown’s VAT cut is a classic “Bernanke”.

    One of the reasons the US is in debt is because the Pentagon has lost trillions of US taxpayers money through its superhuman incompetence.

    Obama could save alot of money by sacking the inept Perfumed Princes at the Spentagon.

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  3. Cassandra says:

    Martin,

    So climate change forced arsonists to set fires in the bush? Perhaps it was all the CO2 in their brains!

    The key to wildfires is of course the amount of undergrowth and the lack of regular back burning to control it, this lesson was learned in the USA where the national parks upto the 70s controlled fires so well for years that when fires did start the years of accumulated dead brush caused huge infernos that destroyed everything.
    In OZ the ecosystem is set up perfectly for regular bush fires,everything that grows relies on the regular burning off of the scrub, the Abbo’s knew this thousands of years ago and took full advantage of it, in Africa millions of animals base their migration patterns around the regular brush fires at the end of the dry seasons.
    The expansion of settlements into the ‘firebelt’ and the lack of regular scrub burning and maintained firebreaks are basic common sense, the eucalypts are full of oil and cant wait to burn, they rely on it and have for eons.
    The giant redwoods need the same regular scrub burning to thrive, the thing is, the utter lack of common sense and the lack of basic knowledge about how nature works, the reckless stupidity of the authorities never ceases to amaze me!
    We have the accumulatesd wisdom of humanity to rely on and yet its ignored, the repeated mistakes that could easily be avoided are being made by ellected officials.

    The Ozzie PM dribbling on about crimes against humanity would be more convincing if he promised to investigate official innaction.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    Anonymous:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol…icle5693687.ece

    quel surprise

    al beeb is not covering the FCO man going to court for ranting about “fucking jews”.

    imagine if this was a rant by an american diplomat about palestinians!
    we would never hear the end of it.

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  5. Cassandra says:

    Did anyone else liston to the amazing defence of nulabour by peston’N’robinison on TOADY this AM? How do they think the blatant partisan reporting will go down with the viewers?
    Are nulabour so desperate that they have to order their followers in the media to pull out all the stops in defending Brown/nulabour?
    Toady did a ‘Smith is innocent’ routine and then a ‘greedy bankers=peoples enemies’ routine and pushing nulabour propaganda so obviously blatant that I cannot believe they dont know what they are doing.
    They forget to mention that Browns poll ratings has collapsed and Cameron is now almost twice as trusted on the economy as Brown, the TOADIES feel the proles dont need to know this!

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  6. George R says:

    This BBC political bias on climate change issue in Northern Ireland is indicated in this BBC report, sympathetic to Green Party political pressure to have N.I. Minister sacked:

    “Quit call over blocked green ad”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7878399.stm

    The predominant line of the BBC report here is not the intimidating ‘left’ political line of sacking a Minister for his criticism of climate change propaganda, but the audacity of said Minister to question a ‘left’ truth.

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  7. George R says:

    Some Cambridge University students organise a ‘British Empire ball’: BBC gives uncritical prominence to self-styled ‘anti-fascist’ protests against it:

    “Empire ball defended by students”
    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7880138.stm

    Of course, in the BBC’s political hegemony, the British Empire can only be viewed negatively, and with white guilt; the BBC is reluctant to give the following view house-room:

    “Misplaced Guilt” (a review by Andrew Roberts):
    http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/misplaced-guilt-1289

    But, of course, in the BBC’s version of cultural relativism, the British Empire is only criticised, whereas the Islamic Caliphate is not:

    “The Caliphate fantasy”

    (by Hugh Fitzgerald, 2005)

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009441.php

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  8. JohnA says:

    David Preiser

    As you say – that remark about what the Congressional Budget Office has said about the stimulus package is a total lie. They said that it would have precious little impact in 2009.

    I understand that most of the US media have deliberately ignored the CBO report. Trust the BBC to go one better and falsify it.

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  9. JohnA says:

    David Preiser

    6 reasons why the stimulus package is a crock.

    Including a quotes from the CBO appraisal.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2009/02/10/the_top_six_problems_with_the_stimulus

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  10. George R says:

    Daily Express:

    ‘BBC in new Thatcher row, but this time it’s Maggie, not Carol’

    [Extract]:

    “Jo Brand, who stormed out of The One Show green room when Carol Thatcher made her remarks last month, caused her own furore on QI by comparing Lady Thatcher to a personal hair remover.

    “She said: ‘It was great, actually, when she became Lady Thatcher, because then she sounded like a device for removing pubic hair.’

    “The host, Stephen Fry, laughed and said: ‘It’s true. Absolutely. The Brazilian Lady Thatcher.’

    “Later in the episode, when a doctored picture of the former prime minister was shown with her mouth and eyes altered, Phill Jupitus pointed and shouted: ‘Burn the witch!'”

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/84100/BBC-in-new-Thatcher-row-but-this-time-it-s-Maggie-not-Carol

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  11. frankos says:

    makes you proud to have such excellent comedians on the BBC .
    We could of course replace them with a bunch of sixth form wits at a considerable saving

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  12. jeffD says:

    A Sheffield head teacher has resigned after complaints from muslim parents about mixed faith assemblies.
    The media have covered this story in full….apart from one organisation.Here is the beeb’s take on the story.Notice how there is no mention of MUSLIM parents….

    “A Sheffield head teacher has resigned after parents complained about her plans to scrap separate assemblies for Muslim pupils.

    Julia Robinson had wanted to hold one assembly for pupils of all faiths at Meersbrook Bank Primary School.

    Her replacement said the school did now hold one “daily act of worship in keeping with legal requirements”.

    Sheffield City Council said the school had acted with the “best interests of all its pupils in mind”.

    Council leader Paul Scriven said: “Sheffield is a diverse and culturally rich city and is a place where everyone matters regardless of their background and as a city we will support that.

    “The school acted with the best interests of all its pupils in mind but it is clear that this has caused misunderstanding and anxiety for some parents.”

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  13. caveman says:

    A good article by C Booker this Sunday 8 Feb 09. Unfortunately they seem to have stopped contributions to the blog – yet they leave up the link ‘comment on this article’ – come on Telegraph, it is easy enough. Sort out the website. If you don’t want contributions, take down the link inviting them.

    As councils ran out of the grit they had failed to stockpile because they fell for the Government line that climate change made it unnecessary, Britain was last week doubly-carpeted, partly by snow, partly by a blizzard of tributes to Charles Darwin. What did these have in common? In contrast to the centenary of Darwin’s death 26 years ago, what has been noticeable about this homage, not least on the BBC, is how relentlessly reverential it has been.

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  14. pounce says:

    The bBC, segregated schools in Sheffield and half the story.
    Head resigns over assemblies row
    A Sheffield head teacher has resigned after parents complained about her plans to scrap separate assemblies for Muslim pupils. Julia Robinson had wanted to hold one assembly for pupils of all faiths at Meersbrook Bank Primary School. Her replacement said the school did now hold one “daily act of worship in keeping with legal requirements”.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7880690.stm

    And how the people of Sheffield see the same story;
    Racism storm head quits
    A SHEFFIELD headteacher has resigned in a row over her plans to scrap separate assemblies for Muslim pupils.
    Julia Robinson moved to stop the assemblies at Meersbrook Bank Primary on Derbyshire Lane soon after taking up her post last February.In their place she wanted to hold assemblies for all the pupils, which would encompass all faiths – which is common practice in most schools.After taking advice from the local authority, Ms Robinson set up a working party to look at alternatives – but their work was stopped after a number of parents complained about the plans.
    “The headteacher inherited the separate assemblies when she started the job and she took careful advice from the authority on what to do about them,” said a school insider. “But when she tried to stop them, feeling they did nothing to promote inclusiveness, she was accused of being a racist.”
    Following the accusations Ms Robinson was away from her post for most of last year – but was due to make a phased return to her duties this term. But again there were protests from some parents when they heard the news – and later Ms Robinson resigned her post. The school’s chair of governors Sarah Browton has also quit.

    “Many of us here just feel this is all very wrong,” the insider said. “The day after the resignation the director of children’s services Sonia Sharp came into school to tell us it was Julia’s personal decision. “Everyone was told that we had to heal and we had to move on. There’s now an interim head in place and that situation could drag on for some time to come. A letter has gone out to parents saying that the head will not now be coming back.”The feeling is that Julia was doing the right thing and went through all the right routes as to what she was trying to do. The aim was for inclusion – there’s no other school we know that has separate assemblies like these.

    “The buzzword from the authority at the moment is all about community cohesion but there is little cohesion here. The staff are very upset at what has happened,” the insider added.

    The bBC, segregated schools in Sheffield and half the story.

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  15. Robert says:

    Jeff and Pounce: and note that repulsive thought-policing word “appropriate” creeping in, as when the Muslim Council of Britian determines what is “appropriate” (excuse me while I vomit)

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  16. George R says:

    jeffD 12:32 pm

    Late in the day, the BBC comes up with a typically obfuscating report:

    “Head resigns over assemblies row”

    (Question: how many Muslims are there in this school, BBC?)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7880690.stm

    A less bland view:-

    “Another Muslim ghetto takes shape as head teacher is ‘forced out’ for opposing Islamic assemblies”

    (Damian Thompson):

    [Extract]-

    “Julia Robinson, head teacher of Meersbrook Primary School, wanted to end the divisive Islamic assembles for Muslim pupils, who make up about a quarter of her 240 pupils. Staff and many parents backed her; Muslim parents accused her of being – you’ve guessed it – ‘racist’.

    Those Christians who think that it’s better to have separate Christian and Muslim assemblies rather than the ‘inclusive’ services Mrs Robinson planned are missing the point. They think ‘faith’ is good, irrespective of what faith it is. Myopic idiots.

    “Admittedly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the ‘inclusive’ services were annoyingly PC, like 99 per cent of all school assemblies in Britain. And I don’t know what went on in the weekly Islamic assemblies led by a parents at Meersbrook School. But I do know this: Muslim ghettos are being constructed across the North of England, and among their building blocks are school-sanctioned meetings for children from ethnic minorities designed to turn them into strictly observant Muslims • whether they like it or not.

    “The Muslim indoctrination of primary school children is designed to produce young adults who reject and despise the tolerant, liberal society in which they live. No wonder staff and most parents backed Julia Robinson; we should, too.”

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/damian_thompson/blog/2009/02/10/another_muslim_ghetto_takes_shape_as_head_teacher_is_forced_out_for_opposing_islamic_assemblies_

    [Footnote: the ‘Daily Record’ has this on Muslims in UK education, but the BBC doesn’t]:

    ‘Race row at top Scots private school after Muslim kids are asked about Jews’

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/01/14/race-row-at-top-scots-private-school-after-muslim-kids-are-asked-about-jews-86908-21039465/

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  17. pounce says:

    The bBC, segregated schools in Sheffield and half the story.

    Further to my last here is how the Guardian reports on the above story;

    Fiyza Awan, 19, who is Muslim and has a sister at the school, said: “When Mrs Robinson took over she said she wanted one assembly for all the students.

    “We didn’t have a problem with that, but wanted a non-secular assembly where no hymns were sung and topics involving all the children could be discussed. But after a while, hymns were introduced again and we objected.

    “We felt we were being marginalised. We didn’t put any pressure on her. We want continuity at the school, it was her decision to leave.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/feb/10/secondaryschools-schools

    Yes no pressure. Calling her a racist, objecting to her being there and that is alright according to that Islamic minority. Thanks to Islam in the Uk anybody who is deemd a racist can kiss goodbye to their life. It is that bad.
    And the bBC doesn’t happen to mention the Islamic angle in all of this?

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  18. pounce says:

    The bBC racist attacks and half the story.

    When the bBC reports on an attack on a non white person in the UK it is highlighted as a racist attack and given front page coverage . Yet when white people are attacked by non whites they are always given back page coverage and for some reason refered to as a race attack.
    Can anybody from Al Beeb please come on board and explain why race attacks on non whites are always given larger coverage than on white?

    Snowball fight led to race attack
    Police have appealed for witnesses after four white men were seriously assaulted by a group of Asian men in the Pollokshields area of Glasgow.

    The victims, all aged 20, were having a friendly snowball fight with a group of Asian youths on Kenmure Street at about 2030 GMT on Sunday.

    Police said four other Asian men got out of a Toyota car and attacked them with a variety of weapons.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7879596.stm

    BBC officals are deeming the home made snowball attack as a militant incident.

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  19. pounce says:

    I see the bBC has now changed its headline from plain;
    Head resigns over assemblies row
    to
    Head quits in Muslim assembly row

    I wonder why?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7880690.stm

    Also why have they included the MCB at the bottom of that article do the MCB represent the British Muslim population or just the Pakistani ones?

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  20. George R says:

    ‘Evening Standard’:

    “Why pay for a BBC licence when the net’s made TV free?”
    (Emma Duncan)

    [Extract]:

    “The BBC’s bosses are constantly under fire at the moment. If they’re not being attacked for sacking presenters who say offensive things off-air, they’re being lambasted for failing to sack presenters who say offensive things on-air. There’s a gathering sense that the BBC has shot itself so often in the foot that quite soon it won’t have a leg to stand on and sooner or later the Government will remove the crutch that props it up – the licence fee. The remnants of what was once one of the world’s greatest broadcaster will then be sold to Al Jazeera.”

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23637946-details/Why+pay+for+a+BBC+licence+when+the+net’s+made+TV+free/article.do

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  21. deegee says:

    ‘Race row at top Scots private school after Muslim kids are asked about Jews’
    George R | 10.02.09 – 12:48 pm | #

    Jews make up about 12% of the attendance.

    Don’t think you have heard the end of this from (Muslim) parents. TheSchool Crest has a pig on it!

    At least, as far as we know, the teddy bear’s name isn’t Mohammed.

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  22. Susan Franklin says:

    http://antigreen.blogspot.com/

    Australian bushfire catastrophe had its prime source in Greenie resistance to preventive burnoffs

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  23. DB says:

    During R5L’s 2pm news bulletin the item about the bankers appearing before the Treasury Select Committee included a clip, taken from the Simon Mayo show minutes earlier, of the opinions of the Guardian’s Michael White! R5L’s increasing tendency to report as news things said during its programmes is getting ridiculous.

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  24. Reimer says:

    Very odd development on the often-bland Jeremy Vine Show today (R2 12.00), with the normally single-handed JV accompanied by Richard Brunstrom, Chief Constable of North Wales, probably the best known (and loathed) pseudo-copper in Britain after Ian Blair, apropos of nothing other than “it’s good to have someone from the real world presenting with us”(sic) (ie there was no obvious Police/Law & order theme to the two hour show’s discussion topics to warrant a senior plod’s presence/input).

    What gives????

    First topic was the following –

    “The Church of England is to consider banning clergy from joining the British National party amid fears the far-right party is promoting its image as Christian.

    Next month’s General Synod, the church’s national assembly, will debate a motion calling on Anglican bishops to formulate a similar policy to that of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) on the BNP.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/19/church-bnp-ban

    The C of E rep was from Putney and sounded suitably right-on for a 21st century inner-city vicar. Opposing the motion was someone from another point on the arc of the Left, Brendan O’Neill of ‘Spiked Online’ magazine who objected to the BNP being singled out given that the present NuLab regime has been failing to deliver totally open borders to quite the degree wanted by PoMo Trotskyites.

    R

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  25. George R says:

    The continual anonymous BBC political propaganda for the Iranian Islamic ‘revolution’ – latest misleading instalment:

    “Iran’s women in the frontline”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7879639.stm

    For an alternative view of the role of women in Iran (and a critique of Foucault on Iran):

    Ibn Warraq:

    [Extract]-

    “Women are always the first ones to suffer whenever Islamic Laws are promulgated and enforced. Foucault dismissed feminists’ warnings as to the direction the revolution was heading, describing the feminists as westernised and hence inauthentic, regarding such criticisms of Islam – as ‘Orientalist’ in the pejorative sense. He seemed to be indisposed and incapable of grasping the nature of Islamic Law especially as it related to the rights of women. The limitations of their rights are enshrined in the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which explicitly reduces women to second-class citizens. A segregated health care system means that many women receive inadequate attention as there are not enough well-trained women doctors and nurses. A raped woman is liable to be executed or stoned to death for fornication.

    “I apologize for all these details but they are necessary in order underline how horribly Foucault and other Western Leftists got it wrong”,[not least in the BBC], “and show that while it was all an amusing intellectual game for irresponsible intellectuals intoxicated with their own theories, words and power, it was devastatingly serious for the victims of what Foucault enthusiastically called ‘political spirituality.'”

    ‘Apologists of Totalitarianism: From Communism to Islam’
    (Ibn Warraq).

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/31136/sec_id/31136

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  26. deegee says:

    (ie there was no obvious Police/Law & order theme to the two hour show’s discussion topics to warrant a senior plod’s presence/input).
    Reimer | 10.02.09 – 2:55 pm | #

    I don’t listen to the Jeremy Vine Show but BBC World Service News did mention something about the Anglican Synod considering a move similar to the Association of Chief Police Officers. Perhaps that’s the connection?

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  27. David Preiser (USA) says:

    JohnA | 10.02.09 – 10:17 am |

    I understand that most of the US media have deliberately ignored the CBO report. Trust the BBC to go one better and falsify it.

    The BBC simply has to keep up the lie. Tragically, they’re as emotionally invested in Labour staying in power (and some individuals are invested in Mr. Brown) as so many in the US media are invested in President Obamessiah. At least in the US, the rumblings from the proles are starting to be heard anyway. Not that it’s going to do much good, I’m afraid. The only opposing voice you guys get to hear seems to be Vince Cable.

    Seriously, though, I do think a lot of this scaremongering and fibbing has to do with the fact that most of them really are just scared and don’t understand any of what’s going on, other than the part about “greedy bankers” and “It’s Bush’s fault”.

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  28. TPO says:

    jeffD | 10.02.09 – 12:32 pm |
    pounce | 10.02.09 – 1:37 pm |

    We have our own problem over here.
    In a small town in New Brunswick an immigrant family complained about the singing at morning assembly of “O Canada”, the National Anthem.
    The head teacher, a member of the green party and an anti Afghanistan activist decreed that rather than the immigrant child stay out of assembly, they would cease to sing it.
    One of the parent’s, whose nephew had been killed in action in Afghanistan got to hear about it and the campaign to reverse the decision began.
    The district schools superintendent has ordered the anthem be sung daily and parliament has now waded in on the side of those that want reinstatement.
    Last night we had the ‘tearful’ head on CBC wingeing about the death threats he’d received.
    CBC spun it in his favour (after all they are a mini version of the BBC and run some total tosh called ‘little mosque on the prarie’)
    Apparently the same problem has occurred in Australia where muslims have managed to get the Aussie National Anthem dropped.
    Here in Canada, like me these muslim immigrants chose to come here. Unlike me they have chosen not to embrace the country to which they have chosen to come to but to start belly-aching.
    having lived and worked in muslim countries I know their mindset only too well. The presence of just one muslim usually turns out to be the thin end of the wedge.

    By the way has anyone seen anything on the BBC anywhere about the CIA’s assessment of islamic terrorist cells in the UK and the resources that the CIA are now devoting to combatting it, including running more informants that the whole of the UK law enforcement and Security Services put together.

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  29. TPO says:

    Reimer | 10.02.09 – 2:55 pm |

    Appropos the Chief Constable of North Wales, Richard Brunstrom.
    A few years ago someone I knew had to go to Holyhead where the North Wales police had detained a known IRA killer. My friend and his colleague arrived to interview the IRA thug only to find that the custody sergeant and his assistant would only converse in Welsh. All statements and custody records were in Welsh. They refused, point blank to speak English.
    The impasse was finally broken when a Met Deputy Commissioner was summoned from his bed to phone an Assistant Chief Constable in North Wales who was also in bed, who then had to order the two prats to stop pissing about.
    Brunstrom and his ‘force’ are viewed as little more than a joke by serious policemen.

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  30. pounce says:

    Thanks for that snippet TPO.
    Reminds me somewhat of that old adage of;
    “You can take a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”

    Attending anything non Islamic doesn’t mean a dilution of your faith rather it means you are sharing the outside world which is the central premise of multiculturalism

    Unfortunately there are people out there who presume that multicultural simply means monocultural when it comes to Islam.

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  31. jeffD says:

    TPO…
    ‘The presence of just one muslim usually turns out to be the thin end of the wedge.’

    Never a truer word!!!!!

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  32. martin says:

    Cassandra: Yes and are we supposed to believe that Climate Change is causing more people to turn to Arson for some reason?

    As you rightly say it’s poor management of the forests and as i pointed out allowing such close home building to the woodlands. This was picked up in the USA as well.

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  33. TPO says:

    Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC bias.
    Kent police promoting sodomy.
    Police force invites young schoolchildren to write essays on homosexuality

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4579965/Police-force-invites-young-schoolchildren-to-write-essays-on-homosexuality.html

    Bye bye Britain. Isn’t it odd that all empires, when they collapse, go beyond decline and fall and enter a realm of debauchery.

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  34. DB says:

    Today’s Simon Mayo show had a discussion about the anniversary of the Iranian revolution. Mayo read a text to the BBC’s Tehran correspondent John Leyne about grotesque human rights abuses in Iran. Leyne’s response was astonishing and pathetic in equal measure: he evaded the point, waffled on about “developing countries” and stumbled towards a classic BBC foreign correspondent’s relativist conclusion…

    Simon Mayo: John Leyne, a text from a listener, Rob in Salford: “How do we show respect for Iran, a theocratic fascist state that hangs 16 year old girls from cranes for adultery when they’re rape victims?”

    John Leyne: Yuh, no, I mean I think that’s the perspective that a lot of people see of Iran. I think, though, that looking at it from this perspective I think though, not just Iran but a lot of Muslim countries, a lot of developing countries, the biggest issue they have really is that they’re not treated as equals, that they’re somehow looked down on and you may say, well, that they haven’t earned that respect with their human rights record, that’s obviously the argument from the other side, but whether it’s from here or countries – from more moderate Muslim countries – that they just want to be treated as equals, and that’s the big argument.

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  35. Colin W says:

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=43042&c=1&disqus_reply=6143606#comment-6143606

    The BBC Trusts statement is a comedy masterpiece, 40% down in viewers of it’s flagship children’s news show, yet they congratulate the channel for managing to produce good quality news on limited resources ???.

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  36. David Preiser (USA) says:

    A little cultural anthropology exercise that should be required viewing at Broadcasting House:

    Muslim study group surprised to find Alabamans don’t hate Muslims

    Listen to the massively bigoted comments from the students at the start. The girl hopes nobody gets violent, one of the guys expressed his concern over seeing so many churches, etc. You’d think they were all junior BBC producers.

    I’d feel safer wearing a turban or a yarmulke in Alabama than I would wearing a t-shirt with the US and Isreali flags on it while walking around in front of the BBC headquarters.

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  37. Reimer says:

    “I don’t listen to the Jeremy Vine Show but BBC World Service News did mention something about the Anglican Synod considering a move similar to the Association of Chief Police Officers. Perhaps that’s the connection?”
    deegee | 10.02.09 – 3:58 pm |

    Yes, the ACPO precedent was mentioned and a similar split between public duty & private conscience proposed by Mr Vine as an argument AGAINST the Synod’s view.

    But Brunstrom didn’t weigh in heavily IIRC e.g. “Well, in MY force we’ve found that…” etc.

    Come to think of it, a later item on the risks of taking Ecstasy vs horse-riding might have been more in RB’s zone (I gather he is noisily pro-legalisation). Did anyone hear this and the rest of the show, which concerned top ****-up bankers’ reparations and Squirrels, neither of which is obviously relevant to his presence?

    Perhaps listeners will be invited to submit essays on the doctrinally-correct position to take on the four topics of the day and the Beeb is just doing its bit in helping the regime acclimatise us to having Police more prominently participating in the roll-out of the New General Synthesis (eg Ian Blair as a straight-man to Jonathan Ross on his chat-show, Paul Stephenson delivering ‘Thought for the Day’)

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  38. Colin W says:

    Here we have the BBC’s view about the governments latest initiative to steal more personal data, the article does mention that many of Labours natural bedfellows also have problems with this initiative, what is missing are statistics showing how much data has been lost, and the opinion of the Information Commissioner:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/

    Now compare with this article from the Times, which mentions that UK citizens’ private information is being lost at record rates, the comments made by the Information Commissioner are truly shocking, I recommend that you all read the Times article, what a pity that the BBC failed to mention the concerns of the Information Commissioner.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5688347.ece

    The next time that Labour say “you have nothing to fear if you have done nothing wrong”, I would suggest quoting the Commissioner word for word !!.

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  39. Colin W says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7881752.stm

    This article by the BBC on the court case in Germany is riddled with pro-Lisbon Treaty bias, it is only in the last line that the BBC mentions that the legal challenge has been brought by members of the opposition, it also fails to explain why they are challenging the German Governments position.

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  40. TPO says:

    one of the guys expressed his concern over seeing so many churches, etc. You’d think they were all junior BBC producers.
    David Preiser (USA) | 10.02.09 – 7:33 pm |

    Watched the link. Wow. Drive down any street in Taif, Saudi Arabia, which I have done, and you’d be amazed and ‘concerned’ at seeing so many mosques.
    What a plonker that guy is.

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  41. pounce says:

    The bBC, Racist friends and half the story.

    What if you had a racist friend?
    What do you say when a friend or colleague utters a remark that could be regarded as racist? Whether or not Carol Thatcher’s use of the word “golliwog” was racist, comedian Jo Brand found it so offensive she walked out of the room.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7879169.stm

    yet again tthe bBC promotes this view that only Honky can be a f-ing racist.
    To that end how many people here know of a Muslim girl in the UK who is married to a White guy who isn’t a Muslim? I wonder what happens to nice Muslim girls who date white guys?

    Yup the bBC,racist friends and half the story.

    Exactly…

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  42. TPO says:

    It’s how you report it.
    Trash TV:
    Former banking bosses say ‘sorry’
    The former bosses of the two biggest UK casualties of the banking crisis have apologised “profoundly and unreservedly” for their banks’ failure.
    Former Royal Bank of Scotland chief executive Sir Fred Goodwin told MPs on the Treasury Committee he “could not be more sorry” for what had happened.

    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7880292.stm

    What’s missing from the Trash TV report?
    To a more reputable reporting source for the missing information.
    Senior HBOS executive ‘sacked for warning of banking crisis’
    Paul Moore, a senior executive at HBOS, was sacked by one of Gordon Brown’s favoured bankers after warning his bosses they were taking excessive risks, MPs were told.

    The former head of risk at HBOS – one of the biggest casualties of the banking meltdown- told the Treasury Select Committee how he predicted the bank’s practices could “lead to disaster”.

    He informed the bank’s board of his concerns, but was later sacked by Sir James Crosby, the bank’s former chief executive.
    Sir James is now the deputy chairman of the Financial Services Authority, the watchdog tasked with monitoring wrong doing in the City. He was appointed by the Treasury and has also carried out a wide ranging investigation into the mortgage market for the Prime Minister.
    In a damning testimony, submitted to the Treasury committee’s inquiry into the banking sector, Mr Moore said it was clear that “excessive consumer credit based on massively increasing property prices” was bound to cause problems…….
    “Paul Moore has made very serious allegations about how his warnings about the risks being run at HBOS were dismissed by the then chief executive, James Crosby.

    “Given that as Chancellor, Gordon Brown appointed Sir James as Deputy Chairman of the FSA and that as Prime Minister he relies upon him as a key economic adviser, the Government need urgently to investigate the allegations and discover the truth.
    “What is at issue here is Gordon Brown’s judgement and the people he takes advice from.”
    ……Sir James is still deputy chairman of the FSA and advises the Government on how to solve the mortgage crisis. Some might now question what his ‘contribution to financial services’ has been when this will have led to millions of people in excessive debt, 10,000s who will lose their jobs and many more who balance sheets have been impacted by precipitous fall of the HBOS share price.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/4582535/Senior-HBOS-executive-sacked-for-warning-of-banking-crisis.html

    The bitter pill that trash TV cannot swallow. So the BBC ignores the most damning evidence given to the Treasury Select Committee. The BBC unbiased? Don’t make me laugh.

    BBC: No credibility whatsoever. Just trash.

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  43. Muslim Wars says:

    Pounce – the muslims believe in separation between the races far more than the BNP ever did. For example, a muslim girl can be stabbed to death by a small religious posse including a few brothers and a parent for going out with someone from a different religion.
    Most Pakistanis, for example, send their children to the mosque every evening after school. Partly for brainwashing, and partly for keeping them from mixing with other races/religions.

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  44. Muslim Wars says:

    Look at all the problems with muslims in Britain now. Are they going to suddenly all settle down and become peaceful? Many seem to be getting more extreme, not less, as time passes, and as more arrive from abroad, including amongst their number, more terrorists. Thank you, MPs. As they increase in numbers and boldness, egged on by the BBC, I dread to think what will happen.

    And if you look at how it all kicked off over the word ‘golliwog’, imagine how much mischief the BBC will be able to stir up if they catch out someone important saying something about their prophet during their snooping and spying in one of their ‘green rooms’.

    Advice to Boris Johnson – please be careful if you are tempted to take your own advice and make fun of muslims.

    Below is an extractfrom his book (2006 edition) ‘Have I got Views For You’ p149:
    ‘Militant Islam has been shielded from proper discussion by cowardice, political correctness and a racist assumtion that we should priviledge the beliefs of a minority, even when they appear to be mediaeval. It is time the discussion was opened up not just to reason, but to reason’s greatest ally, humour. Instead of banning the discussion of the 72 virgins of paradise, the alleged need of the suicide bomber, would it not be much more efficient to make fun of this ludicrous claim?’

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  45. TPO says:

    Further to my comment here: TPO | 10.02.09 – 9:42 pm |
    After every news outlet has latched onto it the BBC have finally been shamed into shoving onto their website, but it’s still an adjunct to the ‘Bankers sorry’ story and it’s now spun as a ‘Tories want enquiry’ story.
    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7882119.stm

    BBC just another trashy mouthpiece for Labour.

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  46. matthew says:

    The BBC has decided that it’s legitimate to

    (a) laugh at a story about George Bush dying
    (b) use the word “Bushism” in its reporting
    (c) to use that word to describe an erroneous story, even though it was made by a South African story, and had nothing to do with Bush himself
    (d) to completely fail to say which George Bush they are talking about – the picture is of George W Bush, but the story mentions only ‘George Bush’, which generally means refers the elder.
    (e) to imply that Bushism was coined because of George W Bush’s mistakes, when it was in fact first used of George Bush the Senior

    The Bush-bashing, it seems, continues even in death (political and mistaken actual).

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7880832.stm

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  47. Cassandra says:

    There is growing anger in Australia with the green fundamentalists for blocking the essential forest management, clearing fire breaks and regular controlled back burning was blocked by the ecomentalists for years and now the ordianry people pay the price of unthinking and ucaring and plain retarded eco lunacy!
    I wonder haow long it will take the BBC to report on the failure of the absolutist ecomentalist religion to take even basic common sense into account?
    The greens have blood on their hands as have the weak polititians who caved into the new religion.

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  48. Paul C says:

    Don’t know if anyone has spotted this one.

    From

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7882655.stm

    Naiz’s vicar – who didn’t want to be identified for fear of further exposing Naiz – takes a similar view to Abu Eesa.

    So the CofE vicar just takes a similar view to their (exceptionally moderate) mohammedan counterparts? I guess the BBC reckon the whole CofE might as well all convert to moon-god worshipers since they apparently copy their views!

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  49. John white says:

    The Brown bounce may be finished if the results of an opinion poll in yesterdays Times are to be believed or a similar poll in a Sunday broadsheet. Not so for Auntie. Not a dickey bird on the website about either of these results.

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  50. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Paul C | 11.02.09 – 8:49 am |

    Interesting find. How nice that the BBC is openly equating the spreading of the message and teaching of the Bible as a “second front against liberalism”.

    Do any other religions qualify, BBC?

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