I was reading through this article on the outcome of the Israeli election. Can you guess to whom the BBC gives the last word ? 😉 It’s also funny to read BBC veiled disapproval of a “horse-trading” PR system which they know will lead to Benjamin Netanyahu becoming the next Prime Minister in preference to their own favourite, Livni.
THE LAST WORD
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Do the BBC really prefer Livni? I’ve gained the impression they hate all Israelis. I can’t see why a former Mossad agent who was foremost in bombing Gaza would escape their ire.
Indeed. But that doesn’t quite suit the B-BBC script well enough.
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David Vance, please check the link.
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If the BBC had a vote they wouldn’t support either Livni or Netanyahu although they would probably prefer Livni. I suspect they would vote for Meretz as the party whose members come closest to the BBC profile:white, leftist, liberal, upper middle class, university educated, gay or strongly supporting Gay Rights. They might vote for Hadash, the descendants of the Communists, which is formally a mixed party but receives 99% of its votes from Arabs.
Here’s a question for you all. Who does the BBC support Hamas or Fatah?
You must have got your facts mixed up. Israel has Apartheit so Arabs can’t vote.
Something odd has occurred to Ed Stourton while he’s based in Israel, a mini transformation. The way he interviews people as though they are almost human beings, the way he describes the political parties almost as though they could be normal political parties; it is all very suspicious.
Has he been got at? Is there somebody holding a gun to his head? Yes that must be it.
As soon as he escapes back home no doubt the Ed Stourton we know and love will revert back to his old familiar self, and normal anti-Israel service will be resumed.
Sue, I’ve always regarded Stourton with high esteem. Can you imagine if it had been James Naughtie or Sarah Montague over there?
One Eyed Idiot
I fear you must be living up to your pseudonym. There are numerous Israeli citizens originally from the Horn of Africa and many other parts of the world. They, as well as Iraeli “Arabs”, all have the vote. If they did not I think the BBC would have majored on it in their broadcasts.
Strange how the vast majority of Arab Moslem countries, even those nominally democratic, seem to have some form of autocracy.
Al-beeb is never to be expected to tell us the truth. They are ignorant to boot. Just listen to their horrid and laughable distortions of Hebrew names of basic things like political parties.
But this should set you up nicely. It’s something our tax-guzzling apparachiks would never air. Go here:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3668921,00.html
The report DV is talking about is here:
Israeli rivals claim election win
I saw Version 11 (of 28 ) of this report last night. There’s a lovely line which has since been removed.
Correspondents say that a right-wing coalition would complicate things for US President Barack Obama, who is promising a strong push for peace in the Middle East.
The part about Lieberman being a “kingmaker” has been softened to saying that the Yisrael Beitenu party will be needed by either side to form a coalition.
The “last word” David Vance is talking about has already become the BBC Narrative for the election result and where things go from here. I guess they couldn’t find an Israeli with anything like a hopeful thought.
Why, it’s almost as if the BBC believes that Israel just wants to keep killing Palestinians forever.
While Israel has democratic elections, in Gaza, HAMAS rules by Islamic jihad.
The BBC has a mealy-mouthed headline on it:
“Hamas ‘harming Gaza opponents'”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7881182.stm
In contrast, even CNN is more direct:
“Hamas tortured, killed Palestinians, rights group charges”
[Extract]:
‘During the Gaza conflict, medical officials at Gaza City’s main medical facility, Shifa Hospital, said injuries they witnessed were consistent with people being shot in the kneecaps, elbows, hands or feet.
‘Punishment shootings are a time-tested tactic used worldwide by guerrilla and militia groups, from Che Guevara in Cuba to the Irish Republican Army in Northern Ireland. They are meant not only to take revenge but also to send a message to others.
‘Two self-described Fatah loyalists were found heavily bandaged at a Gaza City safe house during the recent conflict. One of their colleagues refused to say where or why they were injured, but they denied spying.
‘”They shot him at close range with a pistol,” he said of one man. “His bones are shattered. They shot him point-blank in the foot. … This was done by Hamas people.”
‘The other man, he said, was struck on his legs with a metal construction bar. “Four people were beating him,” he said.’
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/10/gaza.reprisal.killings/index.html
Where are such details in the BBC account?
One-eyed idiot: not only do Arabs in Israel have the vote, there are Arab members of the Knesset. That’s one of many reasons we should give Israel a fair hearing – it is a modern liberal democracy which allows everyone the vote, irrespective of race/creed.
So why aren’t the Jews voting in (say) Yemen? Ah yes, they’re either dead or they’ve been kicked out by those super tolerant Muslims! You could say the same of most other Arab countries. We’re anxious about democracy & they’ve yet to join the 14th century.
Mikewhineliberal….
Gloves off mike.You really are a pain up the a***.It wouldn’t be too bad if you acknowledged some of the relentless bias highlighted on this site,but you don’t.You are selective in the extreme,constantly picking up on ‘borderline’ examples.It is you and your bbc cronies that act in your own smug,treasonous ways to defend every crappy,liberal viewpoint,all of which fly in the face of public opinion.You are not only a disgrace to this site but a disgrace to your country!
This in the Daily Mail
BBC Spends £200,000 licence fees in legal fees to try and suppress report on their anti-Israel bias
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1142222/BBC-spends-200-000-licence-fees-legal-fight-suppress-report-anti-Israeli-bias.html
jeffD | 11.02.09 – 5:21 pm
It is very rare indeed i see an example on b-bbc which demonstrates any hint of bias. Genuinely. Some posters throw up interesting instances occasionally. But David Vance warps his interpretations to such a degree, any real or arguable instances are lost in a sea of exageration and paranoia. The Iraq election coverage was a classic. What he said was demonstrably wrong. He even carried the seed of rebuttal in his article. If you’re happy to nod along with what he says, then fine. But I’m not.
Mikey babes, do you run a website in the UK by any chance?
I don’t. SB?
mwl
You wouldn’t be nicknamed Nelson would you? He had great trouble seeing the signals when he chose not to!
Mikewineliberal….
” If you’re happy to nod along with what he says, then fine. But I’m not.”
Why bother visiting this site then?..Unless you are a bbc employee paid to counter any argument that is highlighted here.
I wish I was. i’d be on
for a large bonus.
Could someone out there please ask the BBC to define what it collectively means by a RIGHT WING Israeli government???????????
Israel has had successive so called right and left governments since they first had elections.
HOWEVER
Most would certainly agree, I am sure that the situation is about as bad as it ever has been, if not worse.
It is certainly true by any objective standards that whatever the Israeli government is supposed to be, by the BBC.
The State of Israel is a NATIONAL SOCIALIST country in spirit and in reality. At least and IMO, more socialist and almost infinitely more nationalist then this one. Which is already far too Internationalist and Socialist by half.
It could very well be argued, Israel is the most socialist democracy in the entire god forsaken world.
However and this is the real point.
It could also be argued just as well, that Israel is also the most Conservative, with very much a big C.
I have said once and it seems I will have to say it again. The entire establishment invented concepts of left and right are meaninglessly and deliberately divisive NONSENSE.
A person is either a small c conservative ie property rights, and common law, loving libertarian, ( which is the vast vast majority of ordinary people thank god ) or a mind controlled to self destruct, mindlessly establishment enslaved idiot.
These days especially, only complete fools would describe themselves as being either.
mikewineliberal..
“Why bother visiting this site then?..”
Answer the question.
Atlas shrugged,
Where would you put your political leanings?, somewhere south of Uranus is my guess.
jeffD: The tosspot never does Jeff. As soon as something that is bad for the BBC happens he goes missing only to surface a few days later.
Reminds me of another useless leftie coward called Mc Fatty One Eye who does the same thing.
Perhaps MWL is the snot eater?
John
No TRUE conservative in all and every respect. It is very unfortunate that you do not find this fact self apparent.
John please read the following and please refrain from your apparent ignorence and rudeness.
I am in politics because of the conflict between good and evil, and I believe that in the end good will triumph.
Margaret Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher LG, OM, PC, FRS.
We have not overthrown the divine right of kings to fall down for the divine right of experts.
Harold Macmillan, 1st Earl of Stockton, OM, PC. (Prime Minister 1957-63 )
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Sir Winston Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, FRS, PC (Can). (Prime Minister 1940-1945, 1951-1955)
I am a Conservative to preserve all that is good in our constitution, a Radical to remove all that is bad. I seek to preserve property and to respect order, and I equally decry the appeal to the passions of the many or the prejudices of the few.
Benjamin Disraeli KG, PC, FRS, Earl of Beaconsfield. (Prime Minister 1868, 1874-1880)
Sebastian Weetabix | 11.02.09 – 10:17 am,
The fact that Tsipi Livni is a woman might strike a faint feminist chord among BBC hacks. She’s also to the left of Likud.
But most importantly, the Palestinians have insisted that a right-wing coalition would destroy the peace process and the BBC will, by default, accept the Palestinian stance on any issue.
mikewineliberal | 11.02.09 – 10:28 am,
Ain’t no B-BBC script.
“Why bother visiting this site then?..”
Answer the question.
jeffD | 11.02.09 – 8:53 pm
A bit of sport. What’s not to like about having an argument?
whitewineliberal…
“A bit of sport. What’s not to like about having an argument?”
Tosspot.I’d like to argue with you face to face.
BBC spends £200,000 of licence fees on legal fight to suppress report on anti-Israeli ‘bias’
By PAUL REVOIR
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1142222/BBC-spends-200-000-licence-fees-legal-fight-suppress-report-anti-Israeli-bias.html
Gerald Brown,
I agree with your comment:
“Strange how the vast majority of Arab Moslem countries, even those nominally democratic, seem to have some form of autocracy…”
Likewise, I’ve always found it highly ironic that basket cases such as the former “German Democratic Republic”; the “Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea”; the “Lao People’s Democratic Republic” and the “Democratic Republic of the Congo” in reality are communist – and thereby, the least democratic countries in the world. What’s in a name?
Well give us a clue Mikey. If you don’t run the SB website (which is still possible) then do you work in the public sector?
Tell me what the SB website is and I’ll tell you.
It’s a download site for XXX videos run by a demented liberal fascist that can’t even see the irony of what he does compared to what he believes.
So public or private?
Thanks. Not me I fear.
You said you’d tell me if you worked in the private or public sector, but didn’t keep to your word. How typically lefty of you mikey.