Hilarious conversation with Hazel Blears and John Humphrys about new policy against political correctness. (Inability to mention certain things.) This new policy of abandoning political correctness, (Unfortunately P.C. prevents us from saying out loud what we really mean,) is, for some coincidental reason, designed to prevent radicalisation.
Up till now political correctness has prevented us from making jokes about the Irish, Welsh or Scots. (To name just a few.)
“Of course we mustn’t allow racist jokes. People will say we don’t want any part of that. Because it’s not even funny’ (Well, not always)
“Muslims are not offended by us celebrating Christmas! We celebrate their rituals, after all.”
“Sorry, political correctness prevents us from telling us exactly who we’re afraid will be radicalised. “
Up till now political correctness has prevented us from making jokes about the Irish, Welsh or Scots. (To name just a few.)
“Of course we mustn’t allow racist jokes. People will say we don’t want any part of that. Because it’s not even funny’ (Well, not always)
“Muslims are not offended by us celebrating Christmas! We celebrate their rituals, after all.”
“Sorry, political correctness prevents us from telling us exactly who we’re afraid will be radicalised. “
Dear Hazel,
Does that mean we can’t call the Welsh “barking” ?
Is this the govt who just banned that dutch bloke fore not being PC?!
Perhaps the BBC and the Labour government, arch perpetrators of ‘political correctness’, could familiarise themselves with this:
-from website: ‘Political Correctness the awful truth’ –
‘Political correctness has replaced British politics’
[Extract]:
“So what is political correctness, how did it start and how did it become so successful? Political correctness is first and foremost an attack on free speech, clear thinking and discussion. Political correctness is perpetrated by the left in politics as a cover for their flawed ideology – a sort of cultural Marxism. By cloaking their strange ideas under the cover of not wishing to offend anyone (which naturally appeals to peoples’ better nature), they try to bypass debate and give a ‘received wisdom’ which must not be questioned. And anyone who disagrees with this ‘received wisdom’ must therefore be a really nasty person and deserves to be ostracised by their peers. This peer pressure is instrumental in enforcing and expanding political correctness.
“For example, if you question whether unfettered immigration into this country is necessarily a good thing or perhaps whether immigrants should be health checked, then you must be a nasty bigoted ‘Little Englander’. Come on everyone – shout him down with cries of ‘racist’. Of course, only the hard of thinking could be drawn into this charade – anyone with an ounce of common sense can see right through it.
“So how did it all start? Political Correctness started in a think tank (called The Frankfurt School) in Germany in 1923. The purpose was to find a solution to the biggest problem facing the implementers of communism in Russia. Why wasn’t the wonderful idea of communism spreading? Read the short history here,*[*referenced at website] the full history and purpose here* (or watch a 22 minute documentary here*”:
http://www.politicallyincorrect.me.uk/
So the BBC’s oafish political correspondent says that David Cameron cannot expect to gain any political advantage from the death of his son Ivan, because Gordon Brown has lost a child too.
How disgusting.
I thought Ross-Brand was bad enough.
This marks a new low.
You can rely on a Beeboid to sink to the occasion.
“Lord” Ahmed sentences to 12 weeks imprisoment
anton, If Lord Ahmed has been sent to prison for 12 weeks, does that mean that he has forfeited the right to sit in the House of Lords?.
Does this not also disqualify him from all the NCO’s and other Labour appointed committees he currently sits on?.
Why wasn’t Ahmed’s sentence the first item on the news ?
And when they report it more fully – will they mention his threat to bring 10,000 to besiege the Houses of Parliament ?
JohnA:
I can’t think why … its not like there been a plane crash or the Leader of the Opposition’s young son has died.
Oh, wait …
Has anyone got a link to Ahmed’s sentence so I can gloat, please?
Political correctness is simply an “intellectual gulag” where all alternative opinions are locked away.
It was established by the Left to cower the proles into submission through the use of language and a checklist of “appropriate” behaviour, acceptable victims and one dimensional opinions. This tactic was in use in the first Parliament under Blair and where all critics of government policy on every subject from gay adoption to mass immigration, from croynism to the link between Islam & terror were isolated into hated groups and only allowed to speak of their fears in private.
PC is promoted actively by the Marxists who dominate our education system and media. Most of us and our children have been indoctrinated at school, college or university through the use of “Marxists tools of analysis” and intimidation. It’s raison d’etre is to close down debate, argument and discourse. It functions around pure emotionalism and not reason. Thats why Marxists favour cutting academic links with colleagues in Israel through academic boycotts. If you cannot win the argument, you make it into a pariah.
PC focuses upon the premise: Minority Good, Majority Bad.
I recommend an excellent book on the subject:
The Retreat of Reason by Anthony Browne publ by Civitas.
Colin W | 25.02.09 – 11:40 am
If Lord Ahmed has been sent to prison for 12 weeks, does that mean that he has forfeited the right to sit in the House of Lords?
Not under the present rules, sadly.
There are many criminals in the Lords – some already convicted; most yet to be convicted.
‘Harry’s Place’
“Lord Ahmed jailed”
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/02/25/lord-ahmed-jailed/
Political Correctness has served its totalitarian purpose for the Orwellian Left.
Or maybe they’re just spooked by the rise in the BNP?
They’ll probably be holding talks to form a coalition government with them before long.
‘As much as we disagree with and dislike many of their policies, we have to recognise our common bond of socialism … ‘
Political Correctness is as much a perversion of ‘equal opportunities’ as fascism is of patriotism.
Yes,
I’m sure the rise in support for the BNP has a lot to do with this new policy.
There must be a hell of a lot of public disquiet these day to have forced them to adopt this shambolic unPC policy that isn’t.
I even heard Gavin Esler (I think) on News 24 mentioning the emails they’d received about Mr. Mohamed – it seems not everyone is as sympathetic to him as the BBC and certain MPs have assumed. There must have been an overwhelming amount of such dissenting views to have pressured them to say so.
What with all that and the Geert Wilders fiasco, I think spooked is what they are. But not spooked enough yet.
hippiepooter – absolutely, the bnp , those nasty proles getting uppity and not thinking as their betters tell them, is the ultimate nightmare for the beeboids and nulab !
Witness the recent cancellation of a bnp rally in Liverpool, where the bbc news trailed them as ‘the far right bnp’, despite the fact that big chunks of the bnp manifesto is markedly socialist.
In reallity they are mainly disaffected white working class former labour supporters !
John Pinhead on Radio 5 has been almost as bad. Remember though, beeboids happily lick Liebour arse, so getting on their hands and knees and giving head as well to Liebour is not surprising.
steady on!
–but I suppose one eventually runs out of adjectives / anecdotes to illustrate one’s frustration!
“Weakened by multiculturalism and its evil twin political correctness – along with the European Union’s ludicrous anti-indigenous Human Rights Legislation – British Ministers now find it is “too politically sensitive” to curb a thousand muslim men (and counting) living in the UK — guilty of polygamy — and using their multiple wives to milk the British benefit system”
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/02/muslim-polygamists-milking-britains-benefit-system.html
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hmm, yes thinking about it, its obvious, every news item on the bnp has been dreadfully biased against them as thugs and racists, I sit on the fence, and have noticed that, they are scared stiff of them and it shows.
and the bbc have totally come clean saying that muslims must be treated more sensitively in the media, the director general mark thompson said that, talk about bias inherent, institutionally biased should be a term given to the bbc
as a follow up, yes it is to do with the rise in the bnp, blair said at a last crucial election I think that ” we listen really” meaning he was scared stiff and wanted to reassure people when the opposite was in fact the case, this is a case of opportunistic cynical politics that is trying to grab the disaffected vote.
decent people everywhere are noticing the farcical damaging effects of the new society that’s being pushed upon us as PC, secularist, and are sick and tired of it and its ridiculous effects that idiots can’t make decisions and have to rely totally upon guidelines, if they were decent they could rely on commonsense, its what’s wrong now, wrong people picked for positions in the interests of supposed fairness, most are fit for the dustbin.
in fact where has this secularist society come from? where has this pc come from? I don’t subscribe to it, I didn’t vote for it, why is it endemic in the fabric of our society?
bring back the 1950s
wonder if the bbc will report that article about polygamy, thought it was illegal? can we have multiple wives then, paid for by the state?
Er…can “we” have multiple husbands please?
Long piece on polygamy being supported by our benefits system in the Mail today :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1154789/Polygamy-UK-This-special-Mail-investigation-reveals-thousands-men-milking-benefits-support-wives.html
I saw that article. Talk about an immigration and benefits racket! I’m really cheesed off about what is allowed to go on and what some people get away with wholesale in this country. Meanwhile we have a lot of elderly people who could do with a proper state pension to help them pay their bills and survive.
The politically correct way to deal with polygamy is to give multiple spouse allowances,after all it is unfair to discriminate against those who have no spouse.
Does that mean we can’t call the Welsh “barking” ?
You can, if you want to be seen as a racist tosser.
The political ‘liberal/left’ (inc Labour government and BBC )uses ‘political correctness’ as a pretext, with discussion, for stopping free speech, and entry to Britain, as in the scandalous case of Dutch MP Gert Wilders.
Here is Geert Wilders analysing what we are up against:
‘Jihadwatch’:
“Wilders: ‘Our enemies should know: we will never apologize for being free men, we will never bow for the combined forces of Mecca and the left’.”
[Extract]-
“My friends, make no mistake, my prosecution is a full-fledged attack by the left on freedom of speech in order to please Muslims. It was started by a member of the Dutch Labour party, and the entire legal proceeding is done by well-to-do liberals, the radical chic of Dutch society, the snobbish left. Too much money, too much time, too little love of liberty. If you read what the court of Amsterdam has written about me, you read the same texts that cultural relativists produce.” (Geert Wilders.)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025016.php
Is the BBC interested in this?:
‘Mail’:
‘Will Labour allow THIS Muslim hardliner with links to Hezbollah into Britain?’ (by James Slack.)
“Jacqui Smith was tonight warned against exercising ‘double standards’ as an Islamic extremist prepared to travel to the UK.
“Ibrahim Moussawi, a known hardliner with links to Hezbollah, has been invited to speak at a London university.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1154827/Will-Labour-allow-THIS-Muslim-hardliner-links-Hezbollah-Britain.html
Remember if every Muslim male were to bring in 4 wives that’s FIVE Liebour votes in every election.
That’s a lot of votes Liebour can buy.
‘Political correctness’ means a ban on Geert Wilders, by the British Labour government, and its supporters, while mass immigration of Muslims into Britain leads to this; and these are not the first such reports:
‘Evening Standard’ –
“UK troops fighting British Muslims in Afghanistan”
[Extract]
“THE British Army is facing increasing numbers of British Muslims fighting for the Taliban in Afghanistan.
“Senior officers claim they are engaged in a ‘surreal mini civil war’, having to face fighters from the West Midlands and Yorkshire.
“Dozens of British-born Muslims, mainly of Pakistani and Somali origin, are believed to have travelled to the country to wage holy war against British troops in Helmand province and other parts of southern Afghanistan, according to intelligence reports.
“Interceptions of Taliban communications have revealed ‘seemingly committed jihadists’ speaking with ‘West Midlands accents’.
“MI5 has estimated that up to 4,000 British Muslims travelled to Pakistan and, before the fall of the Taliban, to Afghanistan for military training.
“Recent ground and air surveillance has shown increasing numbers of ‘British voices’ in the front line.
“A senior military source said: ‘We have been hearing a lot more Punjabi Urdu and Kashmiri Urdu rather than just Pushtu, so there appears to be more men from other parts of Pakistan fighting with the Taliban than just the Pashtuns.
“‘It is this second group, the Urdu and Punjabi speakers, who fall back into English, for example Brummie accents.'”
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23652231-details/UK+troops+fighting+British+Muslims+in+Afghanistan/article.do
Were these three British soldiers in Afghanistan killed by ‘British’ Muslims?:
BBC report:
“UK soldiers die in Afghan blast”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7910885.stm
And did ‘British’ Muslims provide the electronic devices for the Taliban bombs?:
‘Telegraph’
“British Muslims ‘providing Taliban with electronic devices for roadside bombs'”
[Extract]
“British Muslims are providing the Taliban with electronic devices to make roadside bombs for use in attacks against British forces serving in southern Afghanistan, The Telegraph can disclose.”
(By Con Coughlin in Helmand )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7910885.stm
George R
I think there should be a ban on all flights by any males under 30 to Pakistan, unless really good cause can be shown. If this stops only a few jihadists getting training and maybe joining in fighting, that is a reasonable justification for travel restrictions.
its interesting to note, no-one calls the auzzies racist for calling us pommie bas**, but its pretty disgusting, but nothing said against normal white middles classes is racist, we are the perpetrators, never victims, even worse if you’re a man, the most unprotected species there is that’s open to victimisation with no defence whatsoever, everyone else has an excuse, cos a woman, cos black, etc…
if you take it to its limit, anything said about anyone is offensive, baldy, fatty, its a criticism about a characteristic, just the same about skin colour, just that that’s taboo, but its the same thing.
shows about jo brand, mrs bbc walking out over thatcher’s daughter, probably the types running the beeb actually, liberal 60s students.
perhaps the best death knell we can have to end the ridiculous pc isms is to make it get really stupid and take offence at everything, so it will have to be re-thought.
bbc on about global warming again tonite btw…there are gushings by the press about lots of things and people, media darlings, quite obvious in fact.
I found the term hideously white to be VERY VERY offensive, imagine if you said the reverse? the uproar? doesn’t bear thinking about.
shows its got to end.
A lot of news is overtly full of minorities and I got criticised for bringing attention to that, every cop program there’s someone coloured, every news bulletin with schools is full of minorities, the beeb is full of women, sometimes with 2 on the news, if you put 2 men on, no doubt they would say that’s sexist, but not for the women, I am not biased, just bringing attention to it as the lack of the other made me think.
JohnA
Yes; Geert Wilders, knowing it’s late in the day, urges no more Muslim immigration to Europe. (And there are 75 million Muslim Turks being urged in by Brown and co.)
For more on British Muslims fighting with the Taliban against British troops, suggest check, if not seen, the items at ‘Jihadwatch’ archive. This is what comes up googling ‘British Muslims in Afghanistan’:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=013255222075609514560%3Ayu16amghxpi&q=british+muslims+in+afghanistan
Millie, lovely name btw, if there are multiple wives, then to be fair of course there has to be the converse, of course you should be allowed.
And the main issue this Mail article highlights is the freeloading benefit system – (not to mention the absence of individual rights in any forced marriage, especially where minors are involved).
Cut welfare payments and council housing and see the motivation to live a freeloading life diminish.
Britons need to rediscover the backbone of self-sufficieny; but labour/tories want all of us to be dependent on stolen tax pounds from the middle/working classes to give them some bargaining power to buy your vote. It’s that less-than-lovely, rotten to the core system called democracy that the bbc love so much. I wonder why!
‘Moral maze’ question for the BBC-
Whom do you support in the conflict in Afghanistan:
either (a) British troops, or (b) British Muslims killing British troops?
(If there were a secret ballot at the BBC, I wonder what the result would be?)
Talking of ‘terror’ or the public indoctination of it, anyone hear about the story in the telegraph about a teaching pack available for secondary schools for pupils to put themselves in the mindset of a terrorist?
talk about ridiculous, the pack was withdrawn, but even the west yorks councillors defended it, after the govt. doing all it can, kids could be brainwashed into seeing things from the terrorists p.o.v. anything is possible.
why did this pack even get the go ahead in the first place?
its unbelievable in the extreme.
some of our values are so far gone we are allowing anything to happen.
why is no-one really bothered or doing anything about the crap that’s happening? don’t they feel they can?
I don’t object to muslims, all I have met are reasonably good moral people, but what I object to is the p.c. brainwashing, the whole thing like that, being forced on me.
and the idiots on tv, ross, brand, norton, ramsey, people swearing, violence everywhere, why are these idiots letting these things happen, what’s happened, what’s gone wrong, if this is liberallism its really bad and damaging in the extreme, perhaps some old gentlemen are a million times more honourable people than these wet bbc new labour types, bring back olde english values
I though Hazel Blears was moving in the right direction. I think that the labour party is trying to keep the Muslim vote and reclaim support from the white working classes. This will involve telling different groups different stories. Tony Blair was a master at this.
Ron Todd, I fear that this is yet another ’empty promise’ from Labour, how many other ‘new policies’ have they advertised, and how many have they actually implemented?.
Hazel Blears has obviously realized that Labour under its current regime is doomed, she has also realized that her own constituents will vote her out at the next election, and that this policy announcement is Ms Blears attempting to mitigate the Brown effect, that is the only reason that this Minsiter is promoting this idea.
Lets see if Labour and the BBC start to follow this ‘policy’, If they do can I expect to see the following banned words?.
Terrorist
Recession
Feel free to add to the list !!.
So a reduction in PC.Is is alright to call a shortarsed carrot head now?
Hazel Blears is as sinister as she looks
“A guidance document put out this week by Hazel Blears’ Department of Communities has laid out plans for community “tension monitoring”, entailing snooping on neighbours and political activists, restrictions on the media, and large-scale data sharing.”
http://thejournal.parker-joseph.co.uk/blog/_archives/2008/5/16/3694538.html
Like all the other New Labour totalitarians – I wouldn’t believe a word she says. Every time the Labour party get desperate they try and peddle some populist ideas – they do not have any intention of curbing their odious PC, its at the very heart of their twisted thinking.
“Muslims are not offended by us celebrating Christmas! We celebrate their rituals, after all.”
I don’t – do you?
http://religiousfreaks.com/UserFiles/Image/ashura.jpg
Not kind, Jon
I should point out that Nick Robinson never said anything about David Cameron seeking to gain political clout over todays tragic news, nor was it implied by Robinson that Cameron would not gain politically. The fuss being made over Robinson on Guido Fawkes is about the fact that Robinson mentioned Gordon Brown’s equally tragic loss – and some people thought that was trying to ‘spin’ the story somehow in favour of Labour. Robinson was clearly just pointing out the tragic link that exists between the Tory and the Labour leader.
George R
That is an interesting link about political correctness. I don’t know where it originated (perhaps in the 30s as you say) but it’s impact on mainstream society has been felt since the 80s really. The British brand of PC is really modelled on the US/Canadian policy. It’s also worth remembering that not everything about politically correct behaviour is bad – it is helping to stamp out prejudice, bigotry and racism in our society. There is a way to go, but we are on the right track. I do agree that political correctness is really the obstacle to people speaking their minds. Remember also, that if we all spoke our sincere thoughts all the time, none of us would have wives/husbands, none of us would last a day of work without getting fired, and society would be an incredibly rude place. Even ruder than it is now! So my point is, sometimes PC behaviour is good – speaking our minds all the time is not really an option in our every day lives. It might work for ‘House’ on the tele, but not in reality!
“We call it “Political Correctness.” The name originated as something of a joke, literally in a comic strip, and we tend still to think of it as only half-serious. In fact, it’s deadly serious. It is the great disease of our century, the disease that has left tens of millions of people dead in Europe, in Russia, in China, indeed around the world. It is the disease of ideology. PC is not funny. PC is deadly serious.
If we look at it analytically, if we look at it historically, we quickly find out exactly what it is. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious. ”
http://www.academia.org/lectures/lind1.html
This why Labour will not ditch PC – it is part of their ideology. What Blears calls PC is probably not what other people associate with it.
Gunter: Gunter, Gunnar or whatever frigging troll name you are using today Robinson DID say those things on the BBC. He and John Pinhead have been spouting political bollocks about Cameron all day.
Why don’t you piss off back to you public toilets with your other beeboid druggie mates?