Hands up everyone who wants a thread just about Daniel Hannan.
Haven’t we exhausted the subject yet? By the time it gets going the BBC will have reported it. Or some of it.
Surely the BBC will be forced to mention it in a minute, even if only because of the ‘viral’ aspect. Bias by omission will then have to be downgraded to bias by sluggishness, then bias by selective editing, bias by dismissive editorials, then just bias; then it will be buried. Bias by premature burial.
Oh well. I suppose 600.000 youtube hits does deserve this thread.
Haven’t we exhausted the subject yet? By the time it gets going the BBC will have reported it. Or some of it.
Surely the BBC will be forced to mention it in a minute, even if only because of the ‘viral’ aspect. Bias by omission will then have to be downgraded to bias by sluggishness, then bias by selective editing, bias by dismissive editorials, then just bias; then it will be buried. Bias by premature burial.
Oh well. I suppose 600.000 youtube hits does deserve this thread.
have emailed + asked Daily Politics show and Girly Vine show if they are going to report it –no reply as yet
At bloody last! I was wondering when this was going to get put on.
The BBC was in danger of beating you to it, or maybe not…
spreading except in the UK
ta Sue!
600,000 hits – wow!
—why is this bloke stuck in Europe – we need him on telly – all the time!….silly me..what am I saying?!
I wonder what this does for BBC notion of dumbing down to attract a young audience (you pay the license – non-earners watch it) – all those Youtube folks cant be brainless Big Brother fodder then….
The BBC will cover it, reluctantly, eventually, and they will spin it as ‘Cameron fears new rival’. Too bloody predictable.
Actually there is a bit on it on the Daily Politics.
Draper has just make a bit twat of himself defending McNulty.
Bring on Guido.
Draper making a twat of himself again
Here we go
The useless MSM/dead tree press was well and truly behind the curve on this one!
The lobby whores and pimps ignored it but the new media picked it up and hey presto, the new media shows the way, if it werent for the new media we would be living in a recreation of the old USSR with glorious five year plans/rekord harvests/traktor production, the takeover of the traditional media was a NWO priority from the start but they obviously didnt take the new media into account so their best laid plans are coming unstuck, nearly but not quite will be their epitaph I hope.
The Tories should be putting their message over like this all the time, they should but wont, they come across as timid,appologetic,ultra reasonable to the point of handwringing and cringing, whittling and whinning on about trivial detail while the BBC rub their hands with glee, if the Tories had the proper controlled rage, courage and self belief they would destroy the newlabour charade in short order, if only eh?
Guido has a Berkeley sweatshirt on. Nice one. Draper making a twat of himself again
I love this show – you’d never get a question like that on the BBC!
Hannan tells it like it is – but to be fair you would never get a question like that on Channel 4 either, which under Jon Snow is even further to the left than the BBC.
Too right Oxfordian.
Funny, that website that reports on all things cutting edge to do with the media, especially new media – MediaGuardian has not made a single mention about the Hannan clip – even considering its import on the web leading the way in real information – – its quite some axis to beat – govt/bbc/guardian – but maybe their stupity and dinosaur-like ways (although Beeb like to go on about their website – the importance of the web was a long time dawning on them) – will help us.
Oxfordian: That’s the problem. The bint off the Daily Politics sneered that this story just went round the bloggers world, but of course the media is a small world of wet liberals.
The reason right wing blogs are more successful is that in the UK they are denied access to the broadcast media by the wet liberals.
That Draper is one smug looking son of a bitch!
Am I the only one who things looks like Ricky Gervais’ invidious rival character from Extras? The one who said in an interview “Ricky said he picked me for the role as I ‘had a face you’d just wanna punch’.”
I bet he’s going to snort some lines and go chasing rent boys after the show.
For the BBC, if it stops censoring this story, and decides to catch up instead:
‘Mail’
“DANIEL HANNAN MEP: Read the tirade against Gordon Brown that’s become a huge hit on YouTube”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1165007/DANIEL-HANNAN-MEP-Read-tirade-Gordon-Brown-thats-huge-hit-YouTube.html?ITO=1490
Derek draper, what an arsehole.
I felt terribly sorry for the poor translators trying to understand his wonderfully arcane language.
I must say I got a bit baffled by his references to using Goodyears for this and that; I’m sure Mr Pirelli was a bit upset.
This is terrific, a glaring proof that the BBC is biased, technologically obsolete and politically out of touch.
And remember, Daniel Hannans articles can be found regularly in the Telegraph – theyll have previous ones somewhere on the site..
I wonder whether it’ll get a mention on “The Week in Westminster” on Saturday? That would mean the Beeb could claim to have covered the story without actually transmitting the clip.
The point about this interweb thingy is that once people start reading interesting journalism, or in this case seeing something direct and for themselves, the pabulum churned out by the State-approved, taxpayer-funded broadcaster seems ineffably dull. The BBC is the broadcast equivalent of dead-tree media. We can argue over individual instances of bias, but I think we can all agree that the BBC with the very occasional exception – the BBC4 series on the Baroque, Top Gear – is unutterably boring.
I am such a sad case , I have just watched for the third time and emailed it to some friends.
I love the sheer look of contempt for Brown in Dan’s eyes when he sits down at the end.
Great stuff !
Very good so far but NOW:
QUESTION TIME????
We’ll see but I doubt it.
It may be just my dodgy screen, but does Hannan not blink? Is he that angry?
PS: We’ll see how much the left fears him if the character assassination on the Today programme and the personal attack jokes on Radio4’s News Quiz etc begin.
RR
Dull dull dull – you are right – but so self-congratulatory on their output – sure – there ought to be some successes for all those billions!
If nothing else, the clarity of thought and delivery by Hannan, plus the eyes of belief and conviction – make for great telly – in the same way they fawn over Obama’s charisma (prompted) – so they really fail on that count alone!
Nice link, Libertarian.
What I found interesting about the interview with Daniel Hannan was that, whilst I agreed with what was being said, I could recognise the bias in it.
Lefties don’t seem to recognise left-leaning bias when they see it. Perhaps because in the UK, and particularly the BBC, it’s the norm?
Hang on a minute – shouldnt questions be asked in the House?
Shouldnt this be ‘Clipgate’ or ‘Hannangate’ – god knows weve outrages about other things going public?!
Even better on the Vine show we have Mark Lawson saying MPs ought to be on a standard wage–whilst this is not a bad idea (but far too much for the Labour MP detritus)the BBC has hell of a cheek with their huge wages + pensions.
Mark Lawson should start the ball rolling!!!
According to Iain Dale, PM will be covering the story.
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/
They must have found some dirt on Hannan!
Libertarian 12:42
Thanks for that link to the interview with Dan on Fox yesterday.
Anyone who hasn’t seen it yet, please take a little time. It is a cracker !!
600,000 hits – wow!
Ah, see now, there you have it: it’s obviously ‘not really newsworthy’
‘Compare the news feed, what con?’ Simples!
Theres no mention of the clip and its response anywhere on the Guardian website – I guess describing itself as a newspaper would be a breach of the trades descriptions act then?
As for the BBC’s news web blog of convoluted rationalisations, ‘The Editors’, there nothing on there on this.
Give the BBC their due.
It was on the Daily Politics earlier today.
You can also see the speech that preceded Dan’s here:
Noticable was the BBC letting Draper have the last word as in “He (Hannan) got it all wrong”, and never challenged by these “oh so expert” BBC journalists. But then that would show the BBC for what it is, a rest home for failed journalists.
Derek
On The Daily Politics the presenters, trying to explain away why the BBC hasn’t shown the Hannan 3 minutes (emphasising that no other major MSM had either), asked why should the BBC show Daniel Hannan’s response to Brown at Strasbourg, because (they think) no-one knows who Hannan is. What a pathetic excuse. And they said that bloggers/blog readers/commentators are an isolated group talking between themselves. Au contraire • they must have been thinking about themselves.
Has anyone (besides Matt London) seen Andrew Neil’s post on this at the Coffee House? It reads like a kindergarden teacher smiling to her colleagues that the children seem to have found some new toy, and isn’t it cute, I guess we’d better let them play with it for the rest of the day. B-BBC commenter Matt London posted a good reply there.
Established broadcasters, while recognising that the Hannan attack was a cut way above normal party political banter, didn’t quite see how “Tory MEP savages Brown” made it a story.
What can one say?
Then the bloggers got a hold of it — they have made it not just a story but a phenomenon.
Because the silly Jay Hunts at the BBC didn’t.
The right-wing bloggers posted it and emailed it around. Before long, the speech was racking up tens of thousands of hits on YouTube and, not much longer after that, it made the Drudge Report which gave it far wider trans-Atlantice exposure. No surprise that Mr Hannan was soon popping up on Fox News and other sympathetic news outlets.
And those whose sympathies go the other way sat on their hands.
The fact that Neil felt he had to do this post at all is a bit of a confession of guilt, as far as I’m concerned. Even if he’s pretending to take the moral high ground by showing everyone how media savvy he really is, looking to the future and everything.
UKIP 2:43
Yes, to be fair, Nigel Farage’s speech was also excellent, but the BBC are even less likely to report that than Dan’s !
Like a complete idiot – ive read loads of the comments with the video – and most are from the States.
Funny how the lefty media are always going on about getting people ‘into’ politics and voting – well this episode seems to be galvanising them – surely thats a story in itself? Get those questions asked in the house!
Well, at least the bin man is back on Al Beeb’s “news homepage”. Their priorities say a lot about the whole “organisation”.
I have just watched the Daily Politics clip covering Daniel Hannan ( up here in bonnie Scotland , we are condemned to First Minister’s questions from Holyrood, instead of the Daily Politics ).
The BBC line seemed to be that blogs are just for a small minority talking to themselves, Dan Hannan is an unknown etc.
Andrew Neil’s final comment “well we have covered it now” had “so that’s ok , let’s move on now” feel to it.
I think the odious Derek Draper would have come over better, if he had a hair-cut, shave and shower before the show, but , maybe it is not that time of year yet.
The BBC finds room to mention that an obscure local council member at Thurrock defects from the Conservatives to Labour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/7964803.stm
Congratulations to the junior BBC journalist who sniffed this out.
He should be elevated immediately and given Mark Mardell’s job, who clearly is incapable of reporting anything apart from EU press releases.
Though I do suspect that Labour Central rang the BBC to say this ‘defection’ was about to take place and the BBC duly obliged.
er…who is Dan Hannan? whats this story about?
“The BBC finds room to mention that an obscure local council member at Thurrock defects from the Conservatives to Labour.”
How many defections AWAY from Labour has Al-Beeb not mentioned then ?
They said on the Daily Politics that none of the UK media covered this. Except, Hannan himself wrote about it and posted the video on his blog at the Telegraph Tuesday evening.
Nobody knows who he is, says the BBC, yet he has had a regular blog at the Telegraph for over a year.
The regular news end of the Telegraph website had a piece about it yesterday as well (I can’t say if it was in the dead tree edition, obviously). I guess the BBC assumes nobody reads that, either.
Nobody knows who Hannan is, and no UK media covered it, BBC?
i guess credit to them for talking about it, though it seemed reluctantly to satisfy potential critics.
i can recognise improvement though
La la la! I can’t hear you Mr Hannan.
Nick Robinson | 26.03.09 – 4:15 pm
Who is Nick Robinson?
I don’t know who he is.
Get him off the television!
If the BBC did finally get to show a short bit from that speech on their news programs, which bit do you think they would use?
My money’s on
“You spoke about an international recession, international crisis, well it is true that we are all sailing together into the squalls”.
It’s the sort of selective quoting the BBC are good at.
Daniel Hannan is a rising star, well capable of taking on some of the labour attack dogs, unlike Cameron, and the nervous Osbourne. No wonder the BBC does not want us to know about him.