OPEN THREAD

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  1. Paddy says:

    Here’s a quote from wiki

    Embezzlement is the act of dishonestly appropriating or secreting assets, usually financial in nature, by one or more individuals to whom such assets have been entrusted

    And yet Nick Robison describes claiming for a mortgage you no longer have as just breaking the rules. If it were only Tories he’d want them tarred and feathered

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  2. David Preiser says:

    This is an insane sentence from Richard Lister’s apologia for The Obamessiah’s flip-flopping on Guantanamo:

    The five detainees charged with involvement in the 9/11 attacks – including the alleged mastermind Khaled Sheikh Mohammed – have said they want to plead guilty to the charges.

    There seems to be no prospect of their being released without first facing some kind of judicial process.

    Released? They plead guilty to plotting mass murder, and this dopey Beeboid talks about prospects for their release? Oh, Listie, you’ve got no clue, have you?

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  3. Martin says:

    David Presier: Obama restarting these trials and also blocking the release of the photos has raised him in my estimation. He’s still a low life, but less of one now.

    If he continues to piss off the drug using twats at the BBC, I’m happy.

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  4. Ratass Shagged says:

    Martin,

    He won’t piss them off. Instead he will lead them to the promised land.

    If Obama gradually showed signs of being the new Hitler, and chose to exterminate muslims by the million, the doe eyed Beeboids would follow him.

    “Coz he is black innit”?

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  5. David Preiser says:

    Martin,

    I agree with you. Of course, it’s funny how the Beeboids won’t see this as a case where Bush was right after all, but rather that “these are tough decisions”.

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  6. George R says:

    The BBC and its lack of coverage of 4 June E.U. election campaign in Britain:
    the BBC feigns more interest in how the Indians are voting in India’s election, e.g. BBC hiring a TRAIN for a month there.

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  7. Craig says:

    I’ve only just got round to watching last-night’s very satisfying ‘Question Time’. (Very satisfying? Wow! How often can you say that?). I read this website’s Liveblog, of course, much earlier. It’s always fun.

    Labour’s chief mole on the Today programme, James Knockerty, mentioned the delicious horror show (7.13) and said: “Liberal Democrat, Sir Ming Campbell; the Conservative Theresa May; and the housing minister, Margaret Beckett got a pretty rough time.”

    Watching it, I thought Liberal Democrat, Sir Ming Campbell, and LABOUR housing minister Margaret Beckett got a pretty rough time (to put it very mildly), whereas wet-lettuce Conservative Theresa May, got a noticeably less rough time.

    Noticeably? Not by Naughtie, whose agenda is to spread an idea of “general malaise”, helpful to his party and damaging to one of the major parties in particular.

    Who would that be?

    Of course there is a general malaise. Still, Naughtie was being dishonest.

    P.S. This continual banging on about the BNP (on Question Time, and by politicians of all the major parties – but especially Labour- and by the Beeb), when polls show that UKIP are likely to gain a lot more in the Euro elections than those white-loving lefties, is ludicrous. The Beeb and Liebour would hate it if UKIP rather than the BNP got a sack of seats! Go UKIP!

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  8. Martin says:

    Craig: The BBC have been shocked to see the hatred towards politicians but in particular Liebour and the Lib Dems. As i commented elsewhere the BBC were really happy to tear into the Tory toffs at the start of the week. But for all that has gone wrong Cameron has come out of it very well and McTwat just looks hopeless. The BBC hate that.

    What with Malik (a left wing spiv Socialist Muslim – all that the BBC loves) being forced out and another LIEBOUR MP being in the crap the BBC now just want to move the story on.

    Sky even mentioned Balls and Cooper today, the BBC …..zzzzzzz…….zzzzzzzz………zzzzzzzz

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  9. adam says:

    anyone see the pro green party report on the daily politik on thursday. BNP/UKIP wouldnt have got that treatment.
    No criticism at all that i could see

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  10. George R says:

    For BBC: E.U. elections and reality of the city of Brussels –

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    “Brussels: Capital of EU, center of Al-Qaeda recruiting network”

    [Extract]:

    “Italian jihadists tied to Brussels-based Al-Qaeda recruiting network. ‘Italy arrests linked to Brussels al Qaeda recruiting network,’ by Paul Cruickshank for CNN, May 15 :

    “‘European intelligence agencies are on alert for new al Qaeda terrorist plots following the arrest of two men at an Italian port and investigations into the activities of an alleged al Qaeda network based in Brussels’.”

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  11. David Preiser says:

    Credit where due: a BBC employee has an epiphany about the Taleban in Pakistan and his editor allows it through (Inset text from Owen Bennett-Jones):

    Those who have actually lived under the Taleban held areas have been particularly disgusted by the floggings and the beheadings.

    Yes, I imagine it would take having to live under such a regime to actually be disgusted by all that. Still at least they’re admitting the ugly truth for a change.

    That’s why it angers some of us when the BBC rolls out the Northern Ireland model for dealing with the Taliban in Afghanistan. The Beeboids never want to talk about any of this when they bring in Hugh Orde or whatever. So, how long until they start applying it to Pakistan?

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  12. cassandra says:

    The BBC are bleating on about the latest AGW lies, knowing that world temperatures are falling now they have to divert the publics attention away from ‘dangerous global warming’ to dangerous ocean acidification’.

    The crooked dishonesty of the BBC is overwhelming isnt it?
    The BBC bleats on about how manmade CO2 can have a dramatic effect on the oceans acidity when in fact there is no evidence that the tiny amount of atmospheric CO2 has any effect, the vast majority of CO2 is natural so even a massive reduction in manmade CO2 could only have a tiny impact if any.
    They even have a truly retarded computer cartoon to back up their case, it only portrays them as ignorant fools.

    This dishonest shifting of the goalposts is obvious, their resident non scientists cannot spew out their lies about global warming because the planet is cooling, their ridiculous assertions about the poles melting is a pack of lies BUT they have to peddle the alarmist psuedo science mumbo jumbo about our impending demise and the ocean acidification lies will give them a few years breathing space before it too is proven false.

    The sheer desperation of the BBC is visible, they cling onto the AGW/MMCC lies, they know that when the lies are found out their poltical dream will die forever so they tell ever more depserate lies and lies on top of lies to cover up the original lies, we are forced to fund a pack of liars wallowing in stinking lies to bring about a new world order!

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  13. piggy kosher says:

    Beeboid home page “Man Sought Prostitute for 14 year old Son”
    If it was a Pakistani sending his 14 year old daughter off to the old country to be married and raped, he would probably be made beeboid D.G.

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  14. Anonymous says:

    Never seen a word on the BBC about the Members of that Peaceful Religion shouting abuse at our troops:

    “The ugly scenes came when members of the regiment – nicknamed the Poachers – were being welcomed home after a tour of duty in Basra.

    As the soldiers’ families looked on in horror, protesters yelled“butchers of Basra” and “Anglian soldiers go to hell”.

    To compound the injustice, police stepped in to defend the militants from patriotic well-wishers who tried to oppose them.
    Daily Express

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  15. Rex Lepond says:

    Anyone noticed the news BBC4 series on Ireland and the rise and fall of its economy? Was there any reason apart from malice to call it In Search of the Pope’s Children?

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  16. Emperor Zog (All Hail !) says:

    Nice little moment on Eggheads just now.

    Question: “Which US Presidential candidate was targeted by Swift Veterans For Truth ?

    Surprisingly the Egghead “hadn’t heard of that organisation”, which puts him in the same boat (sorry) as anybody else relying on BBC News for their worldview.

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  17. M.N says:

    Did some body actually refernce ‘Jihadwatch’? Please tewll me you were kidding?

    I suppose Jewwatch is also a reputable site !!!!

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  18. piggy kosher says:

    Jihadwatch is one of the few reliable sources of information available on the growing aggression and ambition of real islam.
    “jewwatch” is a scummy neo nazi site run by tragic entities with varying personality disorders.
    Are you thick or something?

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  19. the Grey Matter of The pro Zionist Cabal says:

    Who is M.N?

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  20. M.N says:

    Jihadwatch and Jewwatch are two sides of the same dirty little sectarian coin.

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  21. the Grey Matter of The pro Zionist Cabal says:

    This is the famous website cultural relativism, yah?

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  22. Craig says:

    On Obama's Guantanamo summersault, the BBC News website reveals exactly how Beeboids are coping with the story, & rationalising it so as to forgive their messiah.

    "The BBC's James Coomerasamy, in Washington, says that although some are disappointed, for others it is further evidence of Mr Obama's pragmatic style of leadership, one that recognises the need to balance the change he has promised with the reality he has inherited."

    Isn't this, to use Orwell's term, 'double-think'?

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  23. piggy kosher says:

    I think its called disengenuous crap.

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  24. Anonymous says:

    6:16 PM, May 15, 2009 – piggy kosher

    The man that wanted a prostitute for his 14yr old son was a Polish immigrant. He had been in the UK for 8 years but still required a translator in court. The BBC “forgot” to mention these facts (which were reported by the Independent.)

    Yet again, the vile BBC is hiding facts that it finds politically inconvenient.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/father-tried-to-hire-prostitute-for-14yearold-1685480.html

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8052090.stm

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  25. sue says:

    the Grey Matter of The pro Zionist Cabal 7:27 PM, May 15, 2009
    Who is M.N?

    It’s Michael Neumann. Google and ignore.

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  26. piggy kosher says:

    I like Polish immigrants. I dont like moslem immigrants.
    Least he tried to help the U.K economy.
    Green shoots anyone?

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  27. M.N says:

    ahh sue….whats wrong, don’t like conversing with jews?

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  28. piggy kosher says:

    Wow. its like having a special guest villan, a la Batman.

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  29. Anonymous says:

    Just been watching “Thing You Should Know About Sleep” that was on BBC1 a few days ago where Kate Silverton takes a sly dig at the British. She says, “Taking siestas is common on the Continent, but we *stuffy* Brits turn our noses up at them (makes a sneering expression on her face), but taking naps is really good for you.

    So the BBC’s attitude that British people are inferior scum and that Continentals are superior sneakily drips into the mindset of the unsuspecting viewers. As far as the disgusting BBC is concerned, it’s job done. More psychological abuse has been successfully delivered to it’s targets. Drip drip drip.

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  30. sue says:

    MN,
    At the top of this website is a huge banner. Red and Blue and shiny.
    With text that is fairly self explanatory.
    As far as I can see none of the comments you have made on any of the threads you have alighted upon here have anything to do with it, so it looks as though you’re merely having a bit of sport. You won’t be the last I suppose, and you’re certainly not the first.
    I’m not taking any more bait, so off you go and get on with your moronic boycotting campaign.

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  31. TooTrue says:

    Yes, and under the banner it says

    Open Thread:

    No abuse and no trolls.

    Guy can’t read.

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  32. Anonymous says:

    “Coz he is black innit”?

    No, it is not because he is black. The BBC is not racist, it is just very nasty and highly dangerous. The BBC is just as happy being responsible for the deaths of non white people, as white people.

    It is because he is a democrat leader, and the latest presidential servant of The NWO.

    We all know, and have done for some considerable time, the distance between The Republican Party and the Democrat Party in as thin, as thin can possibly get. In fact the only difference these days is in the spelling of their names.

    George Bush, in terms of his actions, was about as much of a Constitutional Republican as Castro.

    (The man is a criminal and a liar, but far too stupid to have been allowed to have anything to do with the planning or implementation of 9/11. But I am confident that he has a very good idea who really planned the deed, and it was not who we are told it was)

    So why does The BBC, not see things this way. Even though at least 30% of the US electorate certainly don’t see any difference whatsoever between the two, and hardly any other people in the entire world can see any difference either?

    Thatcher, was a women remember, the first western female leader since Bodacia. However being the best thing since sliced breed in many ways, and a women, did not do her any favors with the BBC.

    The BBC’s JOB, when not doing far worse, is to keep people as divided as possible, preferably down BBC defined Left/Right lines.

    However The BBC gets just as orgasmic dividing people away it can. Poor against not so poor, white against white, black against black, white against anything slightly less then white, child against parent, brother against brother, Muslim against Muslim, Muslim against Jew, everyone else against REAL Christians, employed against unemployed, husband against wife, government against subject, employer against employee. In fact you name it, the BBC would simply love to divide you as much as possible from it.

    So much so the BBC even tries its best, and largely succeeds to divide the left side of our brains from the right side of our brains.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    This is not so much a prediction, more a vision of what could likely happen, within the next 3 years.

    If we are allowed another general election in this country, which is a reasonably big IF. Cameron will win big time. The Labour Party will die as a party of government, and will combine in some way with The Lib/Dems.

    LIB/LAB will be BACK, you could say.

    Things will start off reasonably well, and we will feel a little better for a short while.

    As the months and hopefully years go by, not only will the economy not recover. ‘Certain events,’ will be conspired to happen, which will seem to force Cameron to abandon every principal he got elected on, in true FDR, George Bush type style. So little change there. Along with the usual riots, discontent, and general civil disorder, all very well covered by the BBC, in their tried and tested fashion. The BBC will return very much to how we used to think we knew it.

    At some point a new leader will be elected, which is clearly planned at least to be David Davis, on a largely libertarian and selectively authoritarian ticket.

    Many, or certainly enough will see that most of our problems where not his fault, but that of the two previous administrations, combining with seemingly unforeseeable EVENTS.

    Two of which will be the total collapse of the pound and Dolla, followed by consequent hyper-stagflation, and ever increasing violent protest.

    There will of course be some form of middle eastern, more likely far eastern war, or serious bullshit going on somewhere by then. Therefore a Churchillian stile ex military man with a history of apparently being a libertarian in principal, will seem like a good idea at the time.

    The libertarian bit will then be swiftly forgotten and our EX reserve S.A.S. man will show his real colours, and they will not be pretty ones.

    Oh yes, this war thingy.

    Europe will find a common cause with which to unite in battle. This Continental style stand off will facilitate the urgent election of a new European President to front up the seemingly desperate problem.

    The problem will eventually subside, but we will by them be living within a European fascist dictatorship, with no way back.

    This is one of the reasons why our own parliament has been deliberately corrupted and shown to be so.

    The peoples next HEROS will be shown to be EUROPEAN leaders saving the world, not national ones.

    European hegemony will be popular for the first time in history, and the BBC, ( or should I say EBC? ) will be right behind, cheering it all along.

    A few million people may by then be prematurely dead. But then what sort of leading politician worth the name, ever really gave a sod about that type of thing?

    This could all kick off before the next election. In which case Cameron will head up a government of national unity, which will basically hand over the keys to the first European President, which will not be Tony Blair.

    Atlas shrugged

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  33. Anonymous says:

    “Rise in armed forces recruitment

    There were 20,000 new recruits in 2008, up by 7.1% compared with 2007……”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8041368.stm

    etc etc.

    Another view would be that due to underinvestment, overcommitment and the legacy of the Strategic Defense Review which left the forces cut to the bone…

    …..that 10% of Forces personnel left in the last year and had to be replaced. (from the total of 191,900)

    …..so in 10 years…..there will be few serving soldiers, sailors or airmen with more than 10 years experience.

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  34. GCooper says:

    “The crippling cost of right-to-buy ” shrieks the headline on the BBC’s ‘news’ website tonight.

    And, yes, the story that accompanies the headline is truly tragic – though perhaps not for the reasons the BBC imagines.

    It concerns a Ugandan couple who left the country ten years ago and moved to England, where they were duly housed in a hostel.

    Cut to 2000, when they were given a three bedroomed council house.

    Fast forward to 2003 when they were ‘thrilled’ to find they had the right to buy it at a knock-down price.

    But wait, there’s more! The couple managed to raise £15,000 for a deposit but that wasn’t sufficient, so you and I gave them a further £16,000! I bet you didn’t realise you were that generous, did you?

    Of course, it has all ended in tears. The couple obtained a mortgage with a sub-prime lender, the payments were higher than they had imagined, their business (selling East African food, in mysterious Hackney – ain’t this integration a wonderful thing?) failed to prosper and so their home is now being repossessed.

    There are so many scandalous elements to this story that it’s hard not to sound like Nick Griffin’s speech writer when discussing them but, just leaving the obvious ones aside for a moment, the clincher comes at the end, with a spectacular piece of editorialising from the BBC’s crack Janet and John reporting team of Nicola Cutcher and Andrew Verity.

    “Councils have had less incentive to build social housing and in 2009 there are one million fewer social homes to rent than in 1979.”

    So there you are. That nasty, nasty Margaret Thatcher.

    And our Ugandan couple? What will become of them? Will they be returning home? Will they be tossed, starving, onto the cruel streets of East London?

    Well, the £16,000 we gave them is gone, so:

    “If they are repossessed, they will be back to a homeless hostel or temporary housing while waiting for a place on the council housing list.”

    So, in other words, we’ll be putting them back into housing we pay for.

    You have one hour to complete this essay. Please write on both sides of the paper.

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  35. Martin says:

    GCooper: did they say who they vote for at General Elections? Can I take a wild guess? A man with one effing eye?

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  36. Martin says:

    Cassandra: You only have to look at the scientific qualifications of the BBC’s senior Environment Analyst. That would be Roger Harrabin with um..er… a degree in English.

    The world is full of scientific experts with degrees in English.

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  37. GCooper says:

    Good point, Martin.
    And, while we’re at it, I wonder if anyone can guess which party Cutcher and Verity vote for?

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  38. Anonymous says:

    The truth is you really do not need to be an expert, a scientist, or have a degree, A or O level, or any other more then useless piece of worthless paper, to fully understand that the BBC talks establishment bullshit 24/7.

    It does this not some of the time, it does it ALL of the time. There is not a single BBC product that does not have establishment propaganda and vile disinformation stamped large all over it.

    Well OK, it is hard to mind control people while reading them the cricket scores. But please believe me, if the BBC could work out how to do it, they would not give it a second thought. If fact, the person who thought up how to do so, would likely be promoted to Director General.

    Atlas shrugged

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  39. Anonymous says:

    Giving this a second thought.

    The BBC has indeed worked out how to mind control you while simply reading the cricket scores.

    The BBC increasingly gets a women, who clearly has absolutely no liking or understanding of ANY sport whatsoever, apart from make up, breast implants and large expense accounts. To read them to us.

    They do this simply to piss serious sports fans off. While seriously insulting male intelligence, by taking advantage of mans sometimes unfortunate instinctual addiction to female breasts.

    Perhaps they will give me the Director Generals job?

    Atlas shrugged

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  40. George R says:

    For any gatecrashers to this site who don’t know, this is what the excellent ‘Jihadwatch’ site is about, (extract from ‘Jihadwatch’ front page:

    ‘Why Jihad Watch?’

    “Because non-Muslims in the West, as well as in India, China, Russia, and the world over, are facing a concerted effort by Islamic jihadists, the motives and goals of whom are largely ignored by the Western media, to destroy their societies and bring them forcibly into the Islamic world — and to commit violence to that end even while their overall goal remains out of reach. That effort goes under the general rubric of jihad.

    “Jihad (Arabic for ‘struggle’) is a central duty of every Muslim. Modern Muslim theologians have spoken of many things as jihads: the struggle within the soul, defending the faith from critics, supporting its growth and defense financially, even migrating to non-Muslim lands for the purpose of spreading Islam. But violent jihad is a constant of Islamic history. Many passages of the Qur’an and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad are used by jihad warriors today to justify their actions and gain new recruits. No major Muslim group has ever repudiated the doctrines of armed jihad. The theology of jihad, which denies unbelievers equality of human rights and dignity, is available today for anyone with the will and means to bring it to life.

    “Jihad Watch is dedicated to bringing public attention to the role that jihad theology and ideology plays in the modern world, and to correcting popular misconceptions about the role of jihad and religion in modern-day conflicts. We hope to alert people of good will to the true nature of the present global conflict.”

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  41. George R says:

    BBC closes ranks on information about their salaries and expenses (paid for by British licencepayers):

    ‘Telegraph’ (Tim Walker) –

    “BBC presenters are warned to keep their salaries to themselves.”

    [Extract]:

    “The disclosure by the BBC newscaster Carrie Grace – after much browbeating by the Labour hardman Lord Foulkes – that she earned £92,000-a-year has prompted widespread speculation about what other other presenters are earning. ‘It’s hardly the sort of thing that engenders team spirit,’ mutters one corporation hireling. “

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  42. John Bosworth says:

    It’s official. According to Justin Webb, Obama can do no wrong.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2009/05/pragmatic_on_guantanamo_and_he.html

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  43. Ron Todd says:

    1. Cricket is not serious sport it is a game for posh people who run for shelter from the least bit of rain.

    2. If I was a BBC doly bird presenter I would compare my £92000 with what others are getting and would be very angry.

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  44. Craig says:

    John (2.43 am)
    Webb doesn’t even leave his toenails visible, he’s so far up Obama’s sunshine-filled backside.

    His blog article is (as Piggy would rightly put it) “disengenuous crap” and shows the BBC’s party-line strategy in action.

    Webb’s defence of Obama is exactly the same as that of his colleague James Coomerasamy (me, 7.52 pm), except that Justine uses the word ‘compromise’ whereas James prefers the word ‘pragmatic’. (Their use of a thesaurus to try and cover their tracks ought not to fool anyone!)

    We are going to have to get used to both these words (and any others they can find) over the next few years, as the Beeb tries to double-think itself and hoodwink us into accepting that Obama’s flip-flops are nothing more than new proofs of his perfection.

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  45. Grant says:

    Ron Todd 7:12
    Re. cricket. Guess you never faced Malcolm Marshall’s bowling. Certainly glad I didn’t !

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  46. piggy kosher says:

    “Bells to play anti – religion song”
    A cheerful little piece about Liverpool cathedrals “performance” via campanology (bells to you) of the dreadful scouse bore martyr joko lenings ditty “imagine”.
    First strike by the beeboids new religious supremo?
    Will be beeb be giving equal prominance to my newly completed piece “Put your koran..in the trashcan”? (coming to a synagogue near you) I doubt it.

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  47. cassandra says:

    Whats the difference between the Westminster parasites and the BBC parasites?

    Both leech off the taxpayer and both have the same bloated sense of entitlement and a perverted sense of reality, both share a contempt for the truth and both lie and cheat as though that were normal and acceptable.

    The BBC however will never have to reveal anything about the pig trough they gorge themselves on, its all secret and the taxpayer who funds their lavish lifestyle and their political ambitions will never get to find out their dark and grubby activities.

    Whats the difference between the BBC and Westminster?
    We can vote out the MP parasites but the BBC parasites are latched on like hook worms to the public purse and they are accountable to nobody!

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  48. piggy kosher says:

    A nice comparison.

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  49. Craig says:

    Cassandra,

    The shock at Beebette Carrie Gracie’s £92,000 salary (revealed during her scrap with Lord George Foulkes) would have been doubled (as Guido has noted) if his Lordship had got his hands on her co-presenter, Simon McCoy. He earns an eye-watering £190,000 of tax-payers’ money.

    I had at least heard of the lovely Carrie’s name, but who the hell is Simon McCoy? (He turns out to be the one that looks like ‘PC Tony Stamp’ from the ‘Bill’ crossed with a gerbil).

    What an outrageous wage for an autocue-reader! £190,000!!!!

    Once the tumbrils have finished rolling down at Westminster, let them move on to the BBC.

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  50. piggy kosher says:

    She would be worth every penny if she read the news topless. least my licence fee would then be paying for something tangible.

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