49 Responses to OPEN THREAD…

  1. ltwf1964 says:
    January 23, 2010 at 10:06 am

    anyone watch the Obama drool fest after Newsnight last night?

    the usual lefty puke inducing garbage

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    • Martin says:
      January 23, 2010 at 11:20 am

      Yes I commented on it in the thread below. It was a disgrace and pathetic. 4 wet liberals plus rat face whining about Fox News and Sarah Palin. The BBC made no attempt at impartiality last night.

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    • John Anderson says:
      January 23, 2010 at 11:23 am

      That Newsnight  discussion was the epitome of unbalanced, biased political “analysis”.   Plus – it was incoherent, just whistling past the graveyard,   trying to blow life into the Obama mirage

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  2. Hippiepooter says:
    January 23, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Given that the BBC is a key propaganda arm of the enemy at time of war, I think its relevant to post this email I have had the satisfaction to send to some friends I used to work with and with whom I shared many a debate with on the terms below:-

    Oh joy of joys!  Didn’t I used to tell you guys that opposition to Gitmo was just a huge (and obscence) posture that was aiding and abetting our terrorist enemy at time of war?  That no matter how much Democrats degraded themselves with this obscene posture in Opposition, if they were in power Gitmo would stay open?  Enjoy! … “Sources close to the administration said that in practice the decision meant that those detainees would be held until the conflict had subsided to the point where releasing them would no longer pose a threat.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/7054981/Barack-Obama-to-hold-50-Guantnamo-detainees-without-trial.html The War against Islamic Terrorism would have been won by now if you and yours hadn’t launched a huge propaganda effort on behalf of the enemy.  Better that a war is needlessly prolonged than Conservatives get elected to Office, eh? Saludos,

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  3. Martin says:
    January 23, 2010 at 11:25 am

    News 24 have some liberal dyke on trying to stick up for the two little shits that attacked those two kids.

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  4. deegee says:
    January 23, 2010 at 11:42 am

    Does the BBC have any supervision at all over the Day in Pictures?
    Check out Picture 4 Friday, 22 January 2010
    The BBC caption says, An effigy of Philipine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is burnt by farmers in Manilato mark the Mendiola massacre of 1987 when 13 farmers were killed by security forces.

    I know effigies don’t have to be exact images but this one look remarkably manly and the Stars and Stripes hat looks nothing like the Philipines flag. I thought even BBC editors would recognise Uncle Sam. Before Obama they probably burnt a few themselves.

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  5. deegee says:
    January 23, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Compare these two stories.
    From the BBC Haiti quake victim rescue operation declared over
    Haiti’s government has made the “heartbreaking” decision to declare the search and rescue phase for survivors of the earthquake over, the UN says.

    The announcement came a day after two people, an 84-year-old woman and a 21-year-old man, were pulled alive from the rubble in Port-au-Prince. Emmannuel Boso was rescued from the debris of his home on Friday.

    From the Jerusalem Post Haitian government declares end of search-and-rescue phase

    Ten days after a massive earthquake devastated the Caribbean country, an Israeli search and rescue team saved a 22-year-old Haitian man from the rubble of a collapsed building in Port-au-Prince, according to a statement from the IDF Spokesperson.

    The man, Emmannuel Buso, was in stable condition, and was being treated at the IDF field hospital.

    So in answer to the question will the BBC give Israel credit must be …

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  6. thespecialone says:
    January 23, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    I watched Newswatch this morning and saw that a lady member of the public was questioning why the BBC needed so many reporters in Haiti.  She asked where did they get their water & food from and how dd the manage to get there so quickly. A fair point I thought.  Step forward Jon Williams, Editor of World News.  Basically I thought his response was downright rude to the lady in question.  He brushed off her concerns with a simple ‘she is wrong’ type statement.
    That is the trouble with an organisation that has a never-ending supply of money which it doesnt have to work for.  They are nauseating to the point of arrogant.  What they say is right and nobody else’s opinion counts.

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  7. Martin says:
    January 23, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Dateline London. More whining from the left. It’s all the fault of Sarah Palin according to the vile Yasmin alibi Brown (god that dyke gets everywhere) along with shock jocks.

    Gavin Esler whining that “people outside of the US just don’t understand why he’s so unpopular”

    To the BBC. STOP WHINIG YOU STUPID DRUG TAKING TOOLS, BARRY IS A FAILURE.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      January 23, 2010 at 8:39 pm

      “people outside of the US just don’t understand why he’s so unpopular”

      Which people? That is a bit of a generalisation by Esler or do the BBC speak for the rest of the world.

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  8. edward bowman says:
    January 23, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Time to break up the BBC and to give viewers the freedom of not having to pay for some pretty vile output

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  9. burbette123 says:
    January 23, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    The beeboids had to mention the Israeli rescue of the 22 year old, and almost begrudgingly let an Israeli say how pleased he was to have saved a life.  I say that because after that few seconds, and that’s all it was, they gravitated to a long report about the career and times of an 80 year old actress who just died of lung cancer. Talk about tabloid bread and circuses journalism!

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  10. Will says:
    January 23, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Martin “News 24 have some liberal dyke on trying to stick up for the two little shits that attacked those two kids.”

    I was stupid enough to listen to Fatboy Nolan’s newspaper review on R5 midnight. Fatty is supported by a lefty retired bishop, also in the studio is a stupid sap who is prepared to try to put an opposing view but is shouted down by the other two.

    Nolan & bishop spent half an hour criticising the print media for regarding the Edlington Two as villains.

    A chap called Lee was then foolish enough to text in that there should be some sympathy shown for the victims of the extreme violence. This got Nolan squealing like a suck pig, demanding that Lee be contacted so that he could be put right. Lee wasn’t nuanced you see, it went without question that there  was sympathy for the victims. But Nolan told us he was putting a more sophisicated argument.

    Lee was quite correct however, in 30 minutes Nolan & bishop had not made any mention of the victims . All too erudite for me.

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    • Martin says:
      January 23, 2010 at 4:49 pm

      Nolan is a vile fat slug. I can’t stand him or his shit show. But he’s typical of the Radio 5 lot. You should have heard radio 5 the other night after that bloke who battered that thug half to death with a Cricket bat got released. They were up in arms. Dopey dyke claimed that if someone comes into your house you should “just hide under the bed”.

      Wow, must remember that one.

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      • Teddy Bear says:
        January 23, 2010 at 8:19 pm

        Martin says:  Dopey dyke claimed that if someone comes into your house you should “just hide under the bed”.
         
        Wow, must remember that one.
        No need to try and remember, it’s basically what we observe on a daily basis with the dhimmi attitude the BBC portray in their output.

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  11. John Anderson says:
    January 23, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    The BBC is the home of pacifism and cowardice.

    Just watched a rtepeat of BBC2 prog on Lawrence of Arabia – an hour given to some untidy young-punk ex-Foreign Office type saying that Iraq was a mistake,  that Bush and Blair were wrong,  suggesting that US troops should be withdrawn immediately from Iraq.

    One long yellow streak down the back of the BBC. And the FCO,  for that matter.   

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  12. Guest says:
    January 23, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Can anyone explain why the trial of Geert Wilders, possibly the most important trial in Europe for twenty years or so, is being ignored by the BBC?

    I cannot believe this is simply an oversight.

    Is it because it is a show trial? Is it because Geert has more credibility and integrity than the shower of bastards lined up against him? Is it because he will win?

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  13. David Preiser (USA) says:
    January 24, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    The BBC has reported that their beloved Hugo Chavez just shut down some cable TV networks because they wouldn’t broadcast a “government speech” yesterday.

    Why did Chavez want to broadcast a “government speech” yesterday?  The BBC doesn’t say.  As far as the BBC audience knows, it’s just part of his self-described “media war” against a couple of networks who oppose him.

    Could it be that Chavez wanted them to broadcast his own speech in the face of massive protests that were going on yesterday?  You know, the protests that the BBC doesn’t want you to know about?

    Naturally, the Beeboid in Caracas assures us that this is only temporary.  Just like Chavez’s takeover or dismantling of all those other business is only temporary, yeah.

    The BBC continues to downplay or just sweep under the rug the ongoing Mugabization of Venezuela by their beloved Hugo Chavez.

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  14. David Preiser (USA) says:
    January 24, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    I know it’s hard to come up with original thoughts once per week, but this latest “From Our Own Correspondent” is a weak effort.  It’s little more than an excuse for a bored Beeboid to take a swipe at Sarkozy and Conservatism.

    According to Hugh Schofield, French films are lame because the French are too conservative and like to keep their stale celebrities around under the aegis of preserving their culture.  He takes an enormous leap of logic from there to claim that it’s also why Sarkozy is having a hard time, because just like movie critics in Le Figaro continue to flatter the movie makers, Sarkozy’s inner circle is full of ass-lickers.

    Weak, just an excuse for a lazy Beeboid to take a swipe at someone who isn’t on the Left.

    Aside from the lazy bias, check out this bit, written without the slightest hint of irony:


    If you have ever watched French television, you will get the picture.
    A typical mid-evening programme is a chat show on which the invitees are members of the small, unchanging – and therefore ageing – club of national celebrities

    Behind in rows of seats, a youthful audience hand-picked for telegenic good looks bursts into applause at every anecdote or hackneyed clip from the archives

    Sound familiar?

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    • Millie Tant says:
      January 25, 2010 at 12:06 am

      David Preiser wrote:
      According to Hugh Schofield, French films are lame because the French are too conservative and like to keep their stale celebrities around under the aegis of preserving their culture.  He takes an enormous leap of logic from there to claim that it’s also why Sarkozy is having a hard time, because just like movie critics in Le Figaro continue to flatter the movie makers, Sarkozy’s inner circle is full of ass-lickers.  
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      An intriguing coincidence that just today I came across this more thoughtful and thought-provoking piece – a tribute to the “cultural superiority residing just 22 miles from our coast” in the form of contemporary French cinema. What a striking contrast to the Beeboid’s sour opinion.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/simonheffer/7004667/Theres-a-golden-age-going-on-next-door.html

      It’s lucky we still have some other sources and points of view, besides the BBC’s.

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  15. John Horne Tooke says:
    January 24, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    This is interesting

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  16. John Horne Tooke says:
    January 25, 2010 at 12:27 am

    I wonder if Harrabin has spotted this

    http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-tangled-web-we-weave.html

    It seems even our own government is into altering data and not telling anyone.

    As one comentator notes:
    “This attempt at doctoring an offical UK government review should be reported to the UK’s House of Commons Science and Technology Select Committee.”

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  17. David Preiser (USA) says:
    January 25, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    The Obamessiah, endlessly praised by Beeboids during the US elections for His wonderful public speaking skills, is so brilliant that He needs a teleprompter to give a speech to 30 children in a classroom.

    If this was Bush, it would be fodder for an endless parade of Beeboids and comedians on BBC shows.  Yet, because it’s Him, there will be silence, no fun had at His expense.

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  18. George R says:
    January 25, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    What recession (at BBC)?

    “C4 head slams BBC’s ‘office-block’ refurb” ((£850m -so far)

    http://www.fm-world.co.uk/news/fm-industry-news/c4-head-slams-bbcs-office-block-refurb/

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  19. Biodegradable says:
    January 25, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Given the prominence the BBC have given to the story of Jews allegedly vandalising a Muslim cemetery we have to wonder why they haven’t even mentioned this:
    Greece: 4th arrest over synagogue burning on Crete

    Two of those arrested are described as British. One has to wonder whether they’re called Mohamed, Achmed or Ali.

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  20. George R says:
    January 25, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    BBC Asian Network report:

    “Single British Asian mums losing their ‘honour babies'”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8475386.stm

    Hey, this problem is apparently for the apartheid-engendering BBC Asian Network (paid for by the British, not ‘British Asian’ people) to describe and resolve.

     But, BBC Asian Network, dont’ mention the word ‘Muslim’ in this context.

    (I know not all ‘honour babies’ are of Muslim women. But most are.)

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  21. freddo41 says:
    January 25, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Full marks to the BBC for Analysis on Radio 4 this evening.
    ‘Are Environmentalists Bad for the Planet?’ asks Is the green movement using the spectre of ‘global warming’ to promote an eco-socalist agenda based on sin, guilt and fear?

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  22. George R says:
    January 26, 2010 at 9:09 am

    BBC’s Gavin Hewitt propagandises for burqa in France ( in this stilted ‘interview’ with burqa wearer):

      “Behind the burka”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/

    BUT,  he, and BBC, avoid reporting continuing mass immigration from Islamic countries to Britain, via France (illegals in this case): 

     “Migrants freed to head for Britain”

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/154141/Migrants-freed-to-head-to-Britain

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  23. dave s says:
    January 26, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Rumour has it that we have emerged triumphantly from recession, I have yet looked at anything from the BBC on this.
    Way odds on that during the day the BBC will relentlessly tell us that we are on the way to the broad sunny uplands of socialist prosperity That Gordon is magnificent , that- you know the usual gibberish.
    Anyone prepared to tell me I am wrong?

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  24. Trifecta says:
    January 26, 2010 at 11:15 am

    I have just sat with flabber gasted as Victoria Derbyshire shrieked at George Osbourne “We are £190 billion in debt what are YOU going to do about it”? If I had been George Osbourne I would have told her one immediate and obvious saving.

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  25. Will says:
    January 26, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    “We are £190 billion in debt” I realise that these numbers are so large as to be beyond comprehension, but it is remarkable how often the deficit for this year alone (£178 bn) is taken as the total UK national debt (in fact some £870 bn)

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  26. David Preiser (USA) says:
    January 26, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    I like how Mark Mardell, in his Today segment, acts as if his BBC audience knows that the Tea Party movement has been around all along, as if he and his BBC colleagues have kept you all informed.  Let’s just pretend the BBC hasn’t been dishonest the whole time, eh, Mark?

    I did not like, however, the way Mardell kept calling it “conservative”, even though he admitted that for the most part hot-button issues like abortion and gay rights advocates are told to make their noise elsewhere.  Everything he said these protesters are about points to fiscal conservatism, full stop, and not the generic “conservative” label.  Do the Beeboids ever refer to ACORN or any similar organization as Liberal or Leftist?  Of course they don’t.

    It’s misleading for Mardell to call the Tea Partiers “conservative”, without adding a qualifier explaining the fiscal concerns.

    Of course, as usual, Mardell displays his personal bias when he asks one person if this isn’t really just a bunch of “mostly white” and “affluent” people.  Once again, the BBC plays the race card, as if to say that the ethnicity of the protesters is a determining factor in whether or not they’re right or wrong.  This is a racialist attitude.  Worse, it continues the BBC’s Narrative that anyone who opposes policies of their beloved Obamessiah must be doing so out of racial animosity.  By doing this, Mardell smears everyone involved up front, thus severely diminishing any chance for his audience to take the protesters’ actual concerns seriously.

    Sure, we hear from Mardell that the concerns are about excessive taxation and excessive spending, but when he tries to make it an issue of race instead, any honest policy debate is shut down.  That’s a classic Saul Alinsky tactic, and has become standard practice for all BBC reporters covering the US scene ever since Senator Obamessiah was first mooted as candidate for President.

    Oh, and of course Mardell’s attempt to tar the protesters as “affluent” is part of the BBC’s favorite Class War game.  If they’re “affluent”, they must be wrong, and their motivations must be questionable.  Once again, this stifles debate of the actual issues at hand and shoots the messenger instead.

    Mark Mardell is a dishonest reporter, and heavily biased.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      January 26, 2010 at 6:24 pm

      Mark Mardell repeats his racist and class accusations on his blog, showing that he actually didn’t listen to what people were telling him. 

      But I have to ask, is this movement really of the people, or of largely white, largely well-off people?

      His prejudice and personal political biases remain intact.

      Notice the little giveaway in the title he chose:  “Tea Party seek purity and victory”

      I wonder what BBC viewers think of this sudden – to them – emergence of a Tea Party movement.  The one time the BBC reported on it last year, we were racist haters.  Mardell still wants you to think that’s what lies underneath, even as he reports what the people are telling him what’s actually going on.

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  27. David Preiser (USA) says:
    January 26, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Most people here will remember that the BBC never missed an opportunity to show a picture in which George Bush looked even slightly foolish, regardless of topic or context.  Like when he tried to open a locked door, tried cricket for the first time (every photo after the first one), or attended a traditional ceremony in Africa.

    Defenders of the indefensible came up with all kinds of excuses for why the images either weren’t as bad as we said, or there were valid reasons for showing them, or that it we should just stop being po-faced and laugh along as it’s all harmless and not biased at all.

    With this in mind, I await the BBC’s report on the story that President Obamessiah needed a teleprompter to give a speech to 30 children in a classroom, and looked really bad doing it.

    Even Leftoid media darling Jon Stewart noticed.  Will the BBC?

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    • Jack Bauer says:
      January 26, 2010 at 8:28 pm

      DP — and not just Bush, but conservatives in general, and even Bush appointees.

      Remember when the AP, I think, reproduced a photo of Condi Rice in which her eyes had been retouched super-whitened to make her look like some sort of crazy, insane eyed cartoon black person?

      Liberals have no compunction of being racist to black conservatives all the time. Ask Clarence Thomas.

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  28. Heads on poles says:
    January 26, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Thought I’d pass on some observations from an item on the Today programme.
    John Humphreys did an item about how liberal, we as a people have become.
    He said that the most astounding part was how our attitudes to homosexuality have changed – they DO love this subject.
    What they seem to have forgotten is that it is illegal to say anything untoward about homosexuality or homosexuals. In fact, freedom of speech has been eroded to the point where as a nation, we are forced to be mute. An example would be whether the state broadcaster reflected national opinion – I’ll leave that up to you.

    The whole item revolved around the same idea, that although we call ourselves Conservative, we are in fact a Liberal thinking society.
    Another back handed dig at anything slightly right of centre.
    Bring on the election, then bring on the axe.

    If you ever have any doubts about how biased the BBC, avoid everything BBC for a week or two then start listening. It may be that we are close to an election but the radio and television almost smell of bias when tuned in to the BBC.

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  29. George R says:
    January 26, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    BBC 2 TV’s episode 3, of 6 tonight (10 pm):


    “Muslim Driving School” -including the burqa-clad Muslim driving instructors, from the Islamic zone of Blackburn, England.

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  30. George R says:
    January 26, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    BBC website reports this:

    “Lorry’s 600 airfresheners stolen”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8481482.stm

    But the BBC doesn’t report this:

    “Boy, 13, who raped woman in front of his friends is jailed for just three years… because he said ‘sorry'”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246195/Boy-13-raped-woman-friends-jailed-just-years.html#ixzz0dl3n2FzR

    No prizes for working out why the BBC avoids it.

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  31. George R says:
    January 26, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    ‘Mail’:-

    “You do WHAT at the BBC? After vow to get rid of ridiculous jobs, the corporation advertises for a ‘Change Lead'”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246037/You-WHAT-BBC-After-vow-rid-ridiculous-jobs-corporation-advertises-Change-Lead.html#ixzz0dl5QaaON

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  32. Terminal says:
    January 27, 2010 at 7:42 am

    No inverted commas here:
    Muslims attack government silence over anti-Islamic hostility
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8482030.stm

    BBC scum do love their vile, distancing inverted commas.

    Shouldn’t that read 
    Muslims attack government “silence” over “anti Islamic hostility”

    No, because the Muslims in the headline are the appalling MCB, and of course whatever they say is unquestioned and doesn’t get the inverted commas treatment.

    As in:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8333000/8333370.stm
    Kaminski ‘today against anti-Semisim’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8478019.stm
    Washington responds to ‘Bin Laden tape’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8458085.stm
    Israel ‘sorry’ over Turkey snub

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