BBC’s Jeremy Paxman, flagship presenter amongst a flotilla of BBC presenters, sets off on a mission to aid Hamas and uphold the embargo on reason, logic and truth.
(Note: The BBC seems to have issued a special edict. A permanent sneer must be attached to matters concerning Israel. The qualifying prefix “Israel says” must be added to anything speculative, factual, or plain as a pikestaff, if it alludes to Israel in any favourable or mitigating kinda way, to remind the gullible viewer that “Israel” may be lying.)
Newsnight. The Trial.
“Now; Israel has started deporting some of the survivors of the convoy which set out to bring aid to Gaza and ended up being attacked by the Israeli military-who-killed-9-people. They’re being deported from a country they hadn’t want to go to anyway. The UN Human Rights panel, a body usually roundly ignored by Israel, meanwhile has condemned the attack. It’s striking that the US hasn’t questioned Israel’s right to blockade Gaza which they say is an attempt to protect their citizens.
But what’s it like inside Gaaarhza? Tim Whewell has spent a day there.”
Oh what the hell. I might as well add emphasis to the whole lot.
NB. Tim W’s report was almost reasonable yesterday. Will he be psychologically spooked into colluding with Paxman the bully?
Not really, till he consults the repulsive, ex-BBC, Christopher Gunness of the UN relief and Works Agency, whose primary role is spewing propaganda against Israel. “Poverty rates have gone up by threefold in the last year” he says with a triumphant smirk.
“There’s not many people here with not enough to eat,” says Tim, casually. Wait a minute, we thought people were starving but no time for splitting hairs. We’ve a mission to complete.
Back to Pax.
“We’re joined now from from Washington by US Assistant Secretary of State P J Crowley. Mr Crowley why hasn’t the United States condemned this Israeli attack on the flotilla?”
“Well, the US supported the UN Security Council President’s statement which does use the word condemn, we obviously deeply regret the loss of life, we’ll continue to work with the international community to see how we can expand the amount of assistance to the people of Gaza.”
“So the United States does condemn this attack by the Israelis?”
“Well, the US regrets that this confrontation led to a civilian loss of li……..”
“ That’s a different word. Its a different word of course. Regretting and condemning are different things.”
“But we absolutely understand that Israel has legitimate security needs, its people have suffered through rocket attacks over months and years from Gaza, the Israelis had indicated in advance to this flotilla that there was a mechanism by which this material could be inspected and then brought into Gaza, [……….]”
“You don’t use the word condemn let me put to you the remark of the secretary of state…”
No punctuation needed because the beginning was uttered under Paxman’s breath with the comically exasperated yet sarky tone typical of Rowan Atkinson’s Blackadder and straight into the next line of attack.
Now Paxman is emoting about the settlements, “Are we entitled to wonder” [….settlements. Joe Biden. deliberate. blah blah….. ] “and now launching this attack on the flotilla. Is there anything Mr. Netanyahu could do which would incur condemnation from the US?”
“You use a very loaded term there by saying this was the launch of an attack…. this was a military operation by Israel, which Israel believes is perfectly legal to be able to make sure that it can prevent the flow of dangerous materials including weapons….”
“Could you give me another word apart from that”
“This is a very legitimate concern that Israel has…”
Enough.
Paxman’s unimaginative, worn out tactic is to attempt to trap the accused into saying a particular word, which Paxman hopes will reveal what he has deemed to be the truth, so he can conclude with a dramatic, “gotcha!” flourish. He wants to expose Mr. Crowley’s refusal to use the word ‘condemn,’ which is what professor Paxman deems righteous. He imagines he’s Rumplole of the Bailey. Or, who was that barrister who won cases for the defence against all the odds, for defendants guilty or not? Oh yes, it was George Carman. Paxman is suffering from delusions of grandeur. Some loonies think they’re Napoleon, or Jesus. Paxman thinks he’s George Carman. He’s descended into a fantasy in which he is judge, jury and probably executioner.
Excuse lack of brevity.
Good piece by Beck.
Ephraim Hardcastle (‘Daily Mail’) on JON SNOW, BBC’s KIRSTY WARK and Israel:
“Channel 4 News’s veteran presenter Jon Snow made a fool of himself interviewing Israel’s adroit, Australian-born spokesman, Mark Regev.
“When Snow, 62, suggested the storming of a Gaza aid convoy by Israeli troops – in which nine were killed – might result ‘in major warfare’, Regev, 49, smiling patronisingly, replied: ‘You’re telling me the Turks are about to attack Israel? Really sir? I don’t think so. I don’t know where you’ve got this from.’
“Cool and polite, Regev also ran rings round Newsnight’s Kirsty Wark, who demanded brusquely: ‘Who ordered the raid?’ She was noticeably more polite to the Palestinian spokesman. “
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1283537/EPHRAIM-HARDCASTLE-Is-normally-fastidious-Tristram-Hunt-trying-little-street-cred.html#ixzz0pnLB5wi6
I’ve never rated Paxman or Snow. both fail to carry out real interviews and instead try to play ‘gotcha!’. I remember Snow interviewing someone (a Tory I think) and he badgered and badgered until the interviewee slipped up and Snow nearly had an orgasm. It’s just crap journalism.
Wark is even worse.
Oh and talking of twats, Alistair Campbell is now on Radio 5 yet again (for a man who hated the BBC when in power he loves them now) flogging another of his shit books that reads like they were written by a drunk mong.
When it comes down to it the likes of Humphrys, Paxman et al are petty tyrants. They would be in their elements if they could be the ‘Grand Inquisitors’ in the Jew hating dictatorship they clearly yearn for.
I’ve been very impressed with Mark Regev against the onslaught of Hamas supporting meeja mouthpieces.
The atheist cabal at the BBC would love to see the holy land and all references to Judaism and Christianity turned into a public urinal for Muslims.
My next holiday will be in Israel to show my support as a Christian, wonderful people and country.
I have a crush on our Mark, he reminds me of Capt ferrillo from the old NYPD series of the 70s/80s.
Cool knowledgeable unruffled calm and confident and always on top of his brief, he brings openess and gravitas to the game.
Hill Street Blues! (it was unofficially set in Chicago though the creators tried to make the setting obscure). 4OD have all the episodes available along with MTM’s sister show St Elsewhere. Far superior drama than anything the BBC currently produces.
I’m gonna go and do some shopping in M&S today 🙂 Today we are all Jewish!
Shalom. Bagels are on Marty!
I worked on a kibbutz in the 80s we started work at 5am, the Israelis were very hard working, on an evening we would go to the coffee bar and discuss politics, world events and have a real ding dong of an argument, but we remained good friends and respected each other. Having been through Gaza many times I know who I would fight for. Palestinians are indoctrinated they are unable to discuss world events or why they suffer such poverty even though billions have been spent on their behalf, all they really want to do is kill a jew.
I am one atheist who hates the BBC and fully supports the Jews and Israel.
Please don’t tar us all with the same brush.
Paxman, pass me my AK47 !
I have been thinking the same way, for next year. It looks a hugely interesting country anyway.
If people were not so brainwashed, there would be a mass diversion of resort tourism from Turkey to Israel.
Paxman is a bore, an ignorant one-trick pony. In which connection, reporter on BBC World earlier: `Yes, most people seem to dispute Israel’s version of events.’
“Most people” being a BBC, bigotted , anti-semitic clique in Islington. Who the hell gives the BBC the right to speak for “most people” ?
I was amazed to hear this morning, one of the Toady presenters, has actually flown out to do a live on the spot report on the ‘aid convoy’ !
So, a group of various muslim agitators, set out to knowingly provoke Israel and Israel defends itself – quel surprise ! Only the bbc could gloss over this fact !
Unfortunately there’s quite a few media outlets in ‘glossing over’ the facts, but the BBC leads the pack.
In amongst all the handwringing about how awful the blockade is for the Palestinians, has anyone heard any article on the BBC looking into why the Israelis might feel they have to act this way?
The BBC even fail to notice the irony in their own mongs reporting. You can get a new car smuggled into Gaza says’ camp ugly male beeboid. So in which case the bastards can’t be that hard up.
The hundreds of millions in aid money pouring into Gaza has made a lot of gangsters very rich, very rich indeed. The aid comes in and a chunk is stolen and sold on, hamas gansters have their ‘Chicago angles’ worked out perfectly. The UNRWA bosses pay protection money and are used to ship cash in and out like mules. Swiss accounts bursting with cash and all the luxuries aid cash can buy.
The layer cake is open for business and doing fine thanks be to Allah and the useful idiot collborators, money and power rules, anyone not toeing the line or making trouble finds his family members get no aid(whats left after the bosses take their cut)
I used to deliver aid to the Greeks in the north of Cyprus for the UN many years ago, the turkish police took their cut of the aid straight away and the UN allowed it. Turkish authorities took a portion and what was left was handed to lines of old decrepit refugees unable to look their new masters in the eyes under a Turkish flag the size of a bedsheet, just to remind them I suppose who the new masters were.
Things never change, the UN just as weak and corrupt then as now, just as stupid and inefectual.
Gaza just one big gangsters paradise, the bosses in control and billions to be embezzled, just like the whole refugee charade with the useful idiot handwringers cringing with guilt and the gangsters ruling their cattle with a rod of iron, must have those victims in place with their hands out or the free cash comes to an end!
Listening to Radio 5 I noted that we have YET ANOTHER EX GOVERNMENT minister being interviewed about the shootings yesterday. Newsnight had 2 on last night (no Tory or Lib Dem) and Radio 5 thinks we need another one today. Why? I don’t remember the BBC giving the Tories much airtime when they were in opposition every time there was a major incident, in fact the beeboids went out of their way to give us any other opinion.
On a general issue anyone else disgusted with the way our media have behaved the last 24 hours over the shootings in Cumbria? It reminds me of the way they acted during the search for Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in the way the media seem to want to generate pure crap from pure crap.
Do we need the beeboids having wall to wall reporters in Cumbria? I think Tony Livsee or whatever his name is got told to piss off live on air last night or something.
I despair at the lack of humanity these BBC (although Sky and ITV are little better) twats seem to have. They harass the Police and in particular the medical staff.
I’d like to see just one hack do a real job for just 24 hours.
My boss in Spain was watching the BBC for 20 minutes and was still none the wiser about what had happened. She said they turned over to Sky and knew all the details in 2 minutes. She thinks the BBC is terrible. Too many presenters asking their own correspondents what they feel and think instead of reporting facts and asking people with opposing views what they think.
Smart lady.
THE BBC: WE TAKE THE FINEST CRAP, MASSAGE IT AND FILTER IT WITH LOVING CARE TO MAKE THE FINEST CRAP YOUR MONEY CAN BUY AND THEN WE SERVE IT UP 24/7 AND FORCE IT DOWN YOUR NECKS.
Naughtie just told the former US ambassador to Israel that the real problem with Israel and a Hamas-controlled Gaza is that Netanyahu doesn’t want to deal with Hamas any more and would prefer this status quo of low-level war.
Once again the BBC carries the torch for Hamas.
Is Jeremy Paxman Jewish, just a thought !
Puhlease!
“Paxman was the subject in January 2006 of an episode of the BBC genealogy series Who Do You Think You Are?.[6] The documentary concluded him to be descended from one Roger Packsman, a 14th century politician (to use a pointedly ironical anachronism) from Suffolk who had changed his name to Paxman (man of peace) to impress “the electorate.” His maternal grandmother was born in Glasgow, Scotland. The programme generated much pre-publicity by displaying the usually pitiless Paxman teary-eyed on camera when informed that his impoverished great-grandmother Mary Mackay’s poor relief had been revoked because she’d had a child out of wedlock.”
Boo Hoo.
Sue,
As you know Jews in history , for understandable reasons, often take non-Jewish names.
Paxman’s “story ” does not ring true . I think he is a big liar ! But, I do not have the evidence .
Why change “pk” to “x” ?
I know this. My father had to do it. Also, some of the most rabid Israel haters and Jew-haters turn out to have a bit of Jew in the old blood line. Sometimes they think it gives them authority to speak ‘asajew.’
I think I’ll refuse to recognise Paxo’s claim though, if such a thing exists.
Sue,
I guess I am clutching at straws, but wouldn’t it be ironic if Paxman did have some Jewish ancestry !
One of my Uncles, who is generally a very good man asked a genealogist to do a report on his ancestry. Lo and behold, some members of the family were Jewish. He never mentioned the subject again !
Grant,
Actually, Jew-bashers who discover Jewish ancestry use it as evidence of their impartiality. Then they can carry on with impunity.
Anyway, don’t we all come from the same primeval slime?
Sue,
Speak for yourself. I certainly hope I don’t come from the same slime as Paxman !
Hmm. What is your slime of preference?
What do you think of this: An Open Letter to Turkey By Daniel Greenfield?
Grant — I’m sure I’ve seen elsewhere that he was of Jewish heritage.
Sad isn’t it? But some posters have cast doubt.
I like to think of him as Judge Judy Paxman.
Thank God for BBBC, this one small, flickering light in the deluge of brazen anti-Semitism sanctioned by the BBC.
David versus the many Jew hating Goliaths.
Remember folks, 8 years from a minority government to the gas ovens in one of the most cultured peoples in Europe.
Further to the appearance of the attachment “Israel Says” to everything that spokespersons for Israel do happen to say, the BBC leads the way in casting doubt on Israel’s reliability and honesty in general.
Although the existence of Pallywood and Hezbollywood is widely recognised, it’s Israel, people are starting to allege, that must have doctored the videos they have released, because they show what people don’t want to see.
Apart from the incredible blindness that has afflicted the mob, there is also a new no-win situation that is about to blight the aftermath. Israel is keen to investigate this whole affair, but as self-policing is only acceptable when applicable to trusted paragons such as the police and the BBC, any conclusions that Israel might reach will be distrusted. So there will be calls for an impartial body to carry out the inquiry. The first body whose name will be put forward will surely be the UN, and the cartoonists already have Obama phoning Richard Goldstone.
Avigdor Lieberman has called for an outside body to join Israel in an internal investigation, but I predict that the international community has made up its mind already, and whatever the findings, they’ll only be believed if they come down hard against Israel.
The report has probably already been written. They will just delay publication to make it more credible.
BBC = Nazi Ministry of Propaganda
headed by Obergruppenfuhrer Jeremy Goebbels
I’m very sorry that people lost their lives. But there’s one person in particular who I hope survived.
The BBC is making a real effort in Istanbul to cover the angry mobs mourning the Turkish citizens who were killed on the ship. Jonathan Head (the Beeboid who this morning said that the video footage of the “activists” beating Israeli soldiers with axes and metal bars was merely propaganda and not the truth), Ed “Other Projects” Stourton, Jeremy Bowen, as well as others.
Tim Jenkins was just on the World Service trying to find any angle to show that this incident will seriously hurt Israel’s international trade dealings. After stating the obvious about Turkey, he finished by eagerly telling how Israeli businesses are reporting that European deals are being put off, meetings postponed, etc.
The guy on mediagoliath says the media fell for the suicide activists’ propaganda strategy ‘hook, line and sinker’, but surely much of the media is wilfully complicit in this strategy?
With the information that is available anyone who cares about the truth can see that Israel responded to deadly force but the MSM, led by the BBC, wants people to believe a lie.
It can’t come as any suprise that Cameron and Hague go along to a great extent with this lie. Our country is crying out for a new democratic party that will stand up for truth and justice.
the new BBC logo……
What do you mean “new ” !
I think it is too simple to ascribe the BBC’s ,and the European Libleft’s, hostility to Israel as old fashioned anti Semitism.
It feels more complex than that. It is as if Israel is letting the side down. It is a first world country that does not subscribe to the all pervading cultural bent of the elites in that it still believes in itself as a coherent nation state and is prepared to defend itself against all detractors and enemies.
There is an inverse racism in the elite’s attitudes. Savagery and murder are expected in third world autocracies and peoples so they are often excused or glossed over. The Western liberal will not do this in the case of Israel. By contrast Israel, when faced with savagery does not meekly submit or try to act “reasonably’
This is what the elites really cannot understand
Another major strand is the undeniable fact that Israel is a successful modern country created out of unpromising material. It stands as a reproof to those Europeans who see all the ills of the third world as western in origin and thus excuse their poverty and repression as somehow the fault of the European, If Israel by hard work and skill can do it why not others? This is not something the libleft want to hear. It does not fit their world view .
The Arab hostilty to Israel is easy to understand. The hostlity of the Western liberal intelligentsia is at first sight irrational. But so irrational is the pervading culture of the West that this hostility is perhaps directed against a people and a nation that should be part of the irrationality but somehow is not.
The Jewish members of the Western liberal elites exhibit this irrationality in a quite marked way. They need to wake up before it is too late.
Dave S.
Excellent post.
The left elite are quite racist in believing we cannot expect some races to behave in a civilised way and, therefore, they are excused.
I read Biased BBC every day, but nothing posted here actually seems to have any impact on the BBC unlike Guido Fawkes’ blog on Westminster which is taken seriously by all sides. I also note that those who post here never actually state whether they have made a formal complaint either to the BBC Trust, or the Equalities Commission or even the DPP (incitement to religious/racial hatred).
Perhaps it is time that Biased BBC actually took serious and concerted action against named BBC employees, and gave the BBC Trust an ultimatum: either put your house in order or face prosecution under the race relations and religious discrimination laws.
To organise something concerted against the BBC it would require real world action. B-BBC does a great job in cataloguing BBC bias, but there is no replacement for real world action in getting things done. That does not seem to be on the horizon, so B-BBC is mainly a forum to let off steam.
Amelie,
Actually, quite a few posters here do make complaints to the BBC and the Trust and report back. The BBC always deny any bias, so the only point in complaining is to make them aware that they are being watched.
But, any successful prosecution of the BBC would just result in a fine, paid for by guess who ? On the other hand , the publicity may make a difference.
Amelie Smith,
We had a thread about that subject recently, as you will know.
We are a disparate bunch. No advertising, no funding, no organised strategy.
Personally, I’d love it if there was a way of having our case well and truly brought to the attention of the powers that be.
The BBC responds to complaints with automated replies, or if the complainant persists, a cursory letter from an underling who hasn’t addressed or understood the point.
So, what concerted action would you recommend?
There are already several organisations and individuals working on this problem. Just Journalism, Honest Reporting, and legal specialists such as Trevor Asserson, and Steven Sugar who has attempted to get the Balen report released. To no avail.
There are individual bloggers and writers who regularly expose outrageous prejudice in the media, against Israel and AGW, in particular. We are another of them.
Not so long ago certain BBC spokespersons joined in the argument here, but no longer. Either they’ve been warned against, or they have dismissed us as a bunch of mouth-frothers and Daily Mail readers.
Sue,
Quite agree. On this site we have free open debates and lightly, if at all, moderated. Thanks David Vance for that.
What a contrast with the BBC !
Don’t like to go contrary on this one but I have to.
I am a rabid Zionist, however, even I held my head in my hands at the latest Israeli f*ck up in public relations.
However authorised this act of piracy is a complete idiot. If they had attempted to turn them back and they refused then a boarding action in international waters would have been defensible.
Instead, they launch an unprovoked attack at night with armed commandos and kill several Turkish citizens.
The BBC and evey lefty on the planet will have a field day, we’ve already had (Shine on) Banki-Moon gobbing off with international support.
Errm, they did attempt to turn them back and they refused.
I mean a la Cuba, you know, warship comes alongside during the day and say “Heave to and prepare to be boarded..”
Even leave it until they enter their waters. Then they can do what they want and no-one can realistically say a meaningful word.
What are BN’s PR men doing????
I wouldn’t deny that it’s been a PR disaster for Israel. I think the gripe here, certainly mine, has been the BBC actively trying to stoke up the anti-Israeli angle by not putting matters in perspective. It constantly casts doubt on the Israelis’ side of the story while accepting without question every utterance of the protestors – even when they were on different boats and could not possibly have seen what happened. (This blind acceptance has been seen before – Binyan Mohammed anyone?)
I think the BBC showed less scepticism to the Iranians when they captured the British soldiers than they do to the Israelis.
I don’t remember any criticism of the Iranian action from the BBC.
The BBC just decide which side they are on and stick with it, whatever the evidence.
Teapot,
The mishandling almost goes without saying. It has been acknowledged by the Israelis. The PR, or lack of, has been much lamented by many. If you think anything on this site contradicts that, you’re mistaken. We’re discussing the BBC’s attitude, and we’re not ‘Israel Firsters,’ or ‘Israel Right or Wrongers.’
It’s worth adding though, that I’d prefer not to go down the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” route with the PR.
Doctored film, lies and self-pity is not the way to go. Good PR would be to show the world the many positive sides of Israel, but the obstacle is persuading the media to do so.
I think David as the owner of the blog should compile a printed dossier on every article to do with Israel and give it to the chairman of the BBC Trust, the DPP and Trevor Phillips. He should formally request that the appropriate legal/disciplinary action be brought immediately. The sheer weight of evidence ought to grab their attention. Equally the knowledge that they have been reported not only to their own internal disciplinary bodies but to two organisations that have the power to prosecute them should concentrate the BBC’s news journalists’ minds wonderfully.
Equally you could set up an e-petition on this site and other sites and submit it to the BBC Trust. A really large number of signatures might finally help to persuade the Trust that there is a genuine problem.