174 Responses to OPEN THREAD…

  1. Grant says:

    I notice that Pastor Terry Jones has been banned from entering the UK.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    In a world of subjective interpretation (of events), it’s hardly surprising that folk may have different takes…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2011/01/vote_lib_dem_sa.html#P105382470

    Which is why it is perhaps less surprising is how unilaterally consistent the BBC/employee line is, and how often others seem less impressed by it…

    ‘You have chosen to infer that’s what he meant and proceeded to build a generalisation on it. ‘


    Don’t see what all the sensationalism is about.’

    “Now, lest everyone gets over-excited,”
    Nick, too late for you I think !

    Or… just another day at Aunty’s views as news station. Shame 99.9% of the population see and hear the ‘broadcast only’ versions.

    In passing, this guy seems to have a detailed handle on things, some mentioned hereabouts, on which the usually vocal thread defenders of the faith currently seem mute (I foresee a closing if that keeps up):

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2011/01/vote_lib_dem_sa.html#P105392325

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  3. Guest Who says:

    Got to all of 13…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/dailypolitics/andrewneil/2011/01/its_a_pretty_big_blip.html

    As predicted.

    One suspects the hall monitors have put Mr. Neil on the naughty step.

    The BBBorg at ‘work’. ‘First they came…’

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  4. Cassandra King says:

    The BBC toady show invites General Melchett/Dannat for a chat and Dannat gets to pull the hurt and wounded by false accusations type victim, how very dare they

    When all else fails a stubborn refusal to look facts in the face will see us through yeeeees Darling.Did Dannat really conspire with grubby politicians and do deals offering the blood of his Tommies in exchange for favours? Is Dannat the hero he thinks he is? The BBC knows well enough to only ask the questions that dont hurt their labour lovers and partners.

    Sending British troops into a battle without ammo and vehicles that  have all the ballistic protection of a mini moke, no body armour eh Darling? The good old Tommy doesnt need that kind of thing eh what!
    Cheapest ammo available that jams and misfires? Give em the cold steel eh Darling, they dont like it up em you know. No aircover? baaah humbuggery Darling who needs aircover anyway.

    So the modern General Melchett lived in luxury while his Tommies did what they did in WW1 they died and came home shattered in bits to rely on charity. Everything Dannat did, every submissive act of crawling to the newlabour slime assiduously forgotten a legend in his own lunchtime.

    Bomb disposal experts became disposable, send em in on foot and without protection Melchett orders, the enemy wont be expecting that will they Darling yeeees. Who needs proper advanced bomb proof vehicles, they cost too much and the politicians will be upset eh what, that wont do Darling it just wont do! Why my Knighthood/pension might be threatened.

    So British Tommies went off to war without proper arms and ammo and kit, vehicles were provided and accepted and praised by Dannat even though they were known to be death traps, the Pingauer vector was an obvious death trap from the start and yet Dannat praised it and the gigantic waste of billions of pounds on a ridiculous fantasy of lightweight airportable amoured vehicles that cost lives and put the Army back decades. FRES was the name and Dannat thought it was a fantastic idea to buy armoured vehicles that had no armour so they could fit into a airbus transport that didnt exist, huuuh? Oh yes folks the military genius of Dannat believed that armoured vehicles light enough to fit onto planes so they could arrive quickly onto the battlefield, the only slight problem was clear from day one, a vehicle light enough to fit onto a plane cannot have enough armour to allow its crews to actually live. The armour(less) tanks would get to the FEBA quickly enough to be destroyed by anyone with an RPG costing a couple of hundred dollars.

    General Melchett(Dannat) a legend in his own tiny fantasy world doesnt remember the failures and the blood and smashed Tommies and the widows and the damage done to the army he claims to love. Instead of fighting for the right kit and tactics and making sure the political imbeciles fantasies were kept in check old Melchett was applauding from the sidelines as FRES and the A400M and the scrapping of the Jaguar and the takeove of operations by civilians took place.

    Time after time these people are allowed off the hook, there is no hard questioning and bringing people to account for past mistakes. Reputations are protected and wrongdoing erased, asking the right questions would lead to some very disturbing realities that the political class and the toady have no interest in. As usual Tommies die and politicians and their stooges like Dannat lie and get rich and thrive with seats on boards of companies selling rubbish like the Pinzgauer vector and much much more.

    The establishment is rotten to its core, the bleeding of defence funds to fund self interest and corruption now rivals anything India or the USSR could dream of, brown envelopes and deals for rubbish kit made in gentlemens clubs and cricket matches, greasy pole climbing stooges only too willing to sell out just for a place on the gravytrain and the cost? Only an armed forces crumbling before our eyes just at the time we need a strong well equipped and vital protector, the euro armed forces picks up the bits and the plan comes together.

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  5. Maturecheese says:

    Tonights QT should be a bundle of fun.  Alastair Campbell, George Galloway, Simon Hughes:(  Is Caroline Spelman the best example of a Tory they can muster (expenses?) and a footballer to top it off.   No addressing of any important issues then.   It will probably be a muzzie lefty love in.

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  6. Demon1001 says:

    I always record Prime Minister’s Question Time when it’s repeated at night on the BBC Parliament channel, because I can watch it and listen and make my own mind up – and ignore or whizz through the BBC spin.

    However, the recorded programme last night was nothing of the sort – it was a bunch of boring Labour Lords filibustering about the bill to increase fairness in the Commons.  I assumed, therefore, that Cameron wiped the floor with Brain-dead Ed. 

    I had the brilliant idea then to record a couple of other programmes during the night to watch them this morning.  What a suprise – all they had were Labour Lords fillibustering yet again, or Andrew Neal talking to a couple of Lords (including Trimble). 

    So, it would appear that pointless wasted air that their beloved red lords were spouting was more important than Prime Minister’s Questions.  To do that once is suspicious, to do it every time looks like malice.  The BBC just have no standards – they must have flushed their genes down the toilets to join their prejudices in the sewer.

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  7. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Check out this new Tea Party group in Houston:


    Black Tea in Houston

    It’s a tea party unlike any Houston, and perhaps the entire country, has ever seen. The first Black Tea Party held its inaugural meeting Tuesday night in the Third Ward. Organizers of the Crispus Attucks Tea Party are quick to point out that anyone is welcome and it’s not a political party.

    Their mission statement reads in part:

    “To build a strong base of conservative Black entrepreneurs, elected officials and constituents that provide Black conservatives a viable way to express and implement their conservative values politically.”

    Co-founder Anita Moncrief says the party is also looking to overcome stereotypes.

    “We’re trying to break the stereotype that the tea party is racist,” said Moncrief.

    A stereotype promoted and endorsed by the BBC.  Now for yet more proof that what I’ve been saying for two years is true and that the BBC has been lying the entire time:

    At least half of the 75 or so people who attended the first meeting are white and have been defending the rights of taxpayers for a while.

    Defending the rights of taxpayers?  I thought the BBC told me it was about hating a black man as President.  Yet, here are these allegedly racist Tea Partiers turning out to support their fellow citizens, regardless of race, simply because they agree with their principles.  What a shock.   If they were really racist, they wouldn’t be there, and the black folks wouldn’t have tried to start a Tea Party group.

    BBC: ZZZZzzzzz

    Don’t trust the BBC on US issues.

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  8. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Nice to see the BBC advocating for the cause of respite benefits for parents of disabled children.  James Robbins just asked Call Me Dhimmi Dave about – what else? – boodget coots to councils which allegedly might cause a woman to lose benefits for her disabled child.  The Beeboids asks if this is something we should blame on the national Government and not local council management of the new budget arrangements.

    “Can you guarantee” that the money “will be ring-fenced” is the demand of an advocate.  A proper, unbiased journalist would have phrased it along the lines of, “Will you be ring-fencing,” or similar.

    Instead of asking a legitimate question, the Beeboid advocated for a cause.  I’m sure neither Robbins nor his bosses even notice the difference.

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  9. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Now the BBC is continuing its advocacy of respite care money.  They seem either not to understand or, more likely, not to care that the whole point of localizing authority and budget control means that the national Government isn’t going to be “ring-fencing” anything.  That’s the job of the local councils.  James Robbins, and now Jo Coburn and the rest of the dopey Beeboids need to go ask the local council.

    No Jo Coburn is saying that the Government should still be sending instructions to local councils on how to spend their money.  Hey BBC:  What part of “local control” don’t you understand?  I don’t care how important you think the cause is.  The BBC is not only scolding the wrong people, but are directly opposing the biggest change in government budget management of the new Government.  All to score political points and advocate for a cause.

    I say it’s being done to score political points because they wouldn’t be scoring any if they went after the local council.  It’s Bristol, after all.

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  10. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC going on again about how nasty Tory cuts are causing a woman to send her severely disabled child into care because the local council didn’t give her even more respite benefits.

    Hey, BBC:  Go scold the LibDem and Labour councillors in Bristol!!!!  They’re the ones being mean, not Dhimmi Dave.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      5Live this morning had an excellent guest on making exactly this point.  He said people needed to hold local democratically elected politicians accountable.

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  11. Martin says:

    Anyone else seen how the scum at the BBC have personally attacked Cameron over Riven Vincent’s comments on Mumsnet about her child?

    The BBC’s website goes straight for the attack, only hiding away the truth that Ms Vincent’s care isn’t being cut but she can’t get the extra hours she wants.

    So did she ask for these extra hours when the one eyed twat was in power?

    Mu understanding is extra money is available but Cameron can’t force her council to provide the care if they want to use the money on paying higher wages, flash council cars and so on.

    This story of course was all over the lefty papers this morning so quite obviously the BBC went with it without checking any facts out first.

    Ms Vincent posted a message on the website yesterday, saying she had contacted social services for respite help with her daughter but was told that none was available.

    She said: “Have asked ss (social services) to take dd (dear daughter) into care.

    “We get 6 hours respite a week. They have refused a link family. They have refused extra respite. I cant cope.

     

    The BBC start off saying

     

    The mother of a disabled child has criticised Prime Minister David Cameron saying he should do more to protect respite care for families like hers.

     

    Protecting implies not cutting or keeping the same, she’s actually asking for MORE time, how is that Cameron’s fault?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Yes, I’ve been listening to their nonsense for the last hour or so.  LibDem and Labour councillors in Bristol seem to be innocent, and the BBC is attacking the Government’s fiscal policy of giving control of funds to councils.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        In fact, the BBC just lied about it again.  BBC News Channel just did a top-of-the-hour summary by saying that the Prime Minister claims that council budgets should not be protected.  This is framing the issue from the wrong direction.  He doesn’t want to direct what they do from on high, which is the entire point of the policy of localization. He’s not saying that local councils shouldn’t ring-fence whatever they want.

        Local power means local power, BBC.  What’s so hard to understand?  Go yell at the LibDems and Labour luvvies who run the council in Bristol and stop making ideological attacks.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Yet another fabricated segment about this on the News Channel.  Looks like this “broken promise” is the story of the day on the BBC.  There’s nothing to stop local authorities from ring-fencing the money either, Beeboids.  Go sing your song to the LibDems and Labourites in Bristol.

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    • Cassandra King says:

      The BBC chose the story for one reason only, its a perfect attack vehicle for them.

      The BBC going after ONE mums story? Yeah right BBC one mum has problems and the tories are to blame of course. Giving up her child? WTF kind of mother would even think that just to score a political point. Any normal person would see the story stinks of political smear, it stinks to high heaven and yet the BBC are in like flint.

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  12. Guest Who says:

    As some are wont to say… ‘reports’ just in, The BBC has learned….

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/01/getting-things-right/

    If this had ‘lurked’ a little longer, I wonder if the analytical might of the 3 Whores of the Ecolypse at Aunty would have missed this in the rush to retype the press release? What with their degrees in degrees from Brainiac Poly, Oxon.

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  13. David Preiser (USA) says:

    High Priest Richard Black preaching Warmism again:


    2010 hits global temperature high

    2010 was the warmest year since global temperature records began in 1850 – although margins of uncertainty make it a statistical tie with 1998 and 2005.

    But never mind, Warmism is REAL.

    Like the Church Fathers censored things like the Gospel of Thomas from the canon, Black and the BBC censor the following:  the record cold temperatures and the effin’ Sun.

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    • Cassandra King says:

      But then again the BBC are shooting themselves in the foot by pimping this trash because it goes against peoples actual experiences, its bloody cold everywhere, from Spain to Australia to South America to Russia to China. Its bloody cold and we know it so the BBC pimping the hottest year evah crappola simply creates more sceptics. Funnily enough for some strange reason its only hottest where there are no people to feel it, funny that.

      Let the morons carry on, its their stupidity and arrogance that will be their undoing.

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  14. Martin says:

    So Postman Twat has gone and toenails sounds like someone shot his dog.

    Can I tell the BBC, that if you shuffle shit, you are still left with shit.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Does this say something about Miliband Minor’s leadership?  The BBC isn’t going to bash him over it, that’s for sure.

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  15. Martin says:

    Guido predicted Johnson would resign last week, fucking MSM they are shit.

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  16. davejan says:

    Will there be a long talk about MR Postieson on QT or will it be a quick post-it note at the end of the show?.
    What do you call Postman Pat when he gets the sack?,,,The answer is PAT………

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  17. Martin says:

    Oh Jesus the BBC are going on about Alan Johnson as if the queen has died. Yet another simpering lefty twat on BBC News 24.

    But over on Sky News, Adam Boulton points out that none of Red Ed’s top team actually voted for him as leader.

    So WHO is really pulling the strings now? I’m betting Mandelmong and McWanker.

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  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Clive Myried just defended Ed Balls and Labour’s track record, and made a partisan remark about how Johnson “was an easier target for you guys”, but Balls will be a more difficult challenge to a LibDem (Coalition member) MP.  Now he’s actually explaining Labour policy on behalf of Balls.  Lame and shame.

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