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popeye, I started listening to BBC radio when it was still the Home Service (before the name was changed to… - JohnC Dec 26, 19:33
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Not having a ‘woke free’ Xmas at all with the TV this year !. After the ridiculous black-washing of history… - Zephir Dec 26, 17:58
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And off the the local church to integrate, Sundays just get better and better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW28nbADKFQ - wwfc Dec 26, 17:12
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White women of course. Why don’t they show some Muslims – they would be able to drink it? - Fedup2 Dec 26, 16:02
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Tim Montgomrie writes in the P.S. of his post on Conservative Home re Mark mardell bigging up what was really Obamamessiah’s failure:
“The BBC’s Mark Mardell is spinner-in-chief for Barack Obama this morning – blogging that the White House deliberately held back so that US leadership wouldn’t frighten the horses. This really is nonsense. Obama’s administration was paralysed with divisions over the last fortnight. Mardell has been fed post-event rationalisation and he should know better.”
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/03/can-cameron-turn-a-diplomatic-triumph-into-a-military-success.html
The problem is, Mardel doesnt know better.
He is a lefty democrat lover through and through so he simply doesnt have the ability to know better.
Mailman
Maybe Conservative Home needs to be reminded of just how awful Mardell actually is.
Mardell does know better. He is a hot, steamy propaganda turd.
http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/bbc_gives_staff_a_lesson.html
First twitter, then this… tomorrow… ze verld!!!!
Wonder what next?
Unbelievable. They make a Labour run council look efficient.
My offspring, young Bup and his sister Bupa, torture me every morning with BBCC Radio 1. As you might expect Radio 1 News, pitched as it is at people with an attention span of duh whatevva, brings an entirely new dimension to the word ‘lite’.
‘Lady Gaga grows a third breast, woohoo Coxy’s just brought me in a cappucino, and bee tee double you we’ve invaded Libya’, is about the form.
This morning shoehorned into the 30 second slot we had,
‘Last chance to apply for a jobs scheme that has helped a hundred thousand young people to find a job. THAT’S BECAUSE THE NASTY TORIES WITH THEIR LIB DEM AUXILIARY UNTERMENSCHEN ARE CLOSING DOWN THE FUTURE JOBS FUND !!!! DID YOU GET THAT EVERYONE THE NASTY TORIES ARE CLOSING IT DOWN. CUTS !!!!! CUTS !!!!! AND CUTS !!!!!
Oh yes and Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas has gone blonde.
And woohoo Fearne Cotton’s brought me in a doughnut.’
The trials of modern parenthood are not to be underestimated. The good thing about modern youth attention span, perhaps, is they dont pay enough attention to be indoctrinated by BBC Marxist bilge like ‘horrid histories’.
Back in the ’70s, when I was so much younger and prettier than now 🙁 there was justification for a lot of women’s lib grouses (seriously). Now, however, the pendulum has swung so much the other way that the old intolerance has been replaced by a new intolerance. Of late, I’ve noticed (has anybody else?) that BBC News 24 has been pulling out all the stops to interview female pundits in huge numbers on all kinds of issues ranging from banking crises to earthquakes. The men seem to be slowly becoming eclipsed, unless, of course, there is no female available. If the femaleshave an ethnic name, so much the better.
In fact, I’m only half joking when I say that the average white male applicant to the BBC should seriosly consider changing his name to something like Kwami Chung Mustafa Olafsdottir if he’s to have any chance of getting to the first hurdle …
A surname of Chakrabarti certainly seems to help.
Beeboids hate their nation with a passion. They’ll do all they can to destroy it. It represents a moral heritage that they can’t live up to. Their selfish, self-deluding lives are constantly under indictment while Britannia still remains.
Drat! That loaded before I’d proofed it – the perils of not using the mouse on this laptop :-[
No, you’re right, I agree that ethnic females should shave.
Quite correct, some are quite hirsute. I always thought Moira stewart looked like a black Noddy Holder
Defunding NPR, and BBC.
If only British MPs realised that similar arguments against American government funding of NPR apply to British licencepayers funding BBC:
“House Approves Measure to Defund NPR”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/house-approves-measure-to-defund-npr/
A reminder abour NPR and Juan Williams:
(Bill O’Reilly, ‘Fox News’ Oct 2010; 6 min video clip)
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/10/21/juan_williams_oreilly
So I turn the telly on and there on News 24 is a woman (haven’t a clue who, but she has dark skin) bitching about how NATO troops should not be setting foot on ‘Islamic’ Lands.
Isn’t it great how the bBC can find an alternative view to any story they air. A story I should add which has the approval of the (islamic) Arab League.
A friend of Gerry Adams?
Maybe the BBC interviewer should ask her if we should have Islamists on BBC airwaves?
Cameron being interviewed by Robinson stated repeatedly that he was determined to “stop the slaughter” in Libya. Robinson didn’t ask “What slaughter?”. So if it exists, why have we not been shown any evidence of it?? The nearest I have seen was in the Sky News Pallywood production from Zawiyah a week ago, where a couple of boys thrashed around on a hospital trolley showing no more than superficial cuts.
Oh, the BBC occasionally brings it up in the text crawl on the News Channel. That’s plenty of coverage, surely. After all, as John Simpson told Marr on Sunday, it’s really only a little skirmish, just a few dozen people on one side fighting against an even fewer dozen on the other, although he granted that one side had big guns and tanks.
Oh, dear, what a dilemma for the Beeboids. Cameron looks good now because the UN and The Obamessiah gave their blessing to what the BBC makes out to be his idea for military intervention in Libya. BBC female newsreader clearly not happy, disappointment dripping even when mentioning the Prime Minister’s name.
But The Obamessiah says we should do even more, and the UN and the Arab League are backing it, and they can’t criticize them.
So they have to come up with new ways to attack Cameron over this. Criticize the military strategy, spin Ghaddafi as having his power ‘cemented’ (as Barbara “Tears” Plett just said), and anything else they can think of.
The Guardian‘s chief political correspondent Nick Watt calls the UN resolution “the first major foreign policy triumph of (David Cameron’s) premiership”, highlighting the support of those old anti-Iraq War campaigners, Sir Malcolm Rifkind and Sir Ming Campbell.
Contrast that with Radio 4’s chief political correspondent Norman Smith. On Today this morning (i-Player, beginning at 0.38.45). Not a sniff of any praise for Cameron, no quoting of support, just Anti-Tory Norm’s usual negative spin and hyperbole. Woe, woe and thrice woe!
Indeed. Do we call him “Cowboy Dave” now?
I had imagined that, if the intention was to stop Col and mini-Col’s rampage, that they seem to have done so (for now) might be deemed some measure of success, strategy-wise.
However….
@bbc5live Gadaffi calls the world’s bluff, latest from Japan, Lawro on the CL Draw and#comicrelief at Cheltenham
It seems it is just the latest cunning ruse by the desert lion to tweak the nose of the venal West…. according to the UK national broadcaster.
And in more important news, lavish money on our attention-starved ‘stars’ to give to an odd variety of ‘worthy causes’… but don’t dare mention Japan.
No pleasing some. Though this was a nice summary of the miserable reaction from the mediumratti (so little rare, so little well done)….
TimMontgomerie RT @JohnRentoul Stop The War will be marching this afternoon in opposition to a UN resolution that has just stopped a [civil] war
Cheerled, no doubt, to the official opposition (to near everything) that is the BBC.
The BBC has the horror of Cameron being able to contrast his record on Libya with that of Blair and Brown at the next election.
Of course they’ll look for ways to undermine Cameron. Who said Libya is not like Iraq?
I heard Justin Webb interview Gaddafi’s Deputy Prime Minister this morning. The Gaddafi flunky was insisting that Gaddafi is popular and has the support of the Libyan people. At no time did it occur to Webb to ask him if Gaddafi was so confident of his popular support, why at no time in his 40 years rule has he called an election, why, instead of strafing and killing his own population, didn’t he call an election instead?
If today’s BBC was part of Britain’s democratic culture, these questions would have been axiomatic.
Aunty ran it up the flagpole…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/03/comments_and_making_our_covera.html
Not many seem to be saluting so far.
And, woe, the Graun crew have clocked off for the weekend already!
I thought this one was of note..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/03/comments_and_making_our_covera.html#P107389449
‘Amongst the foreign population here, most of whom were previously BBC enthusiasts, there is a lot of disbelief concerning how low the organisation has fallen in recent months.’
r nige gives gives it rumpy again.
sorry i ment r nige gives it to rumpy agian.
Two stories from the bBC about modern day slavery in the UK.
One is ref a woman from Harrow; the other is an illegal immigrant who apparently is a church pastor. Want to guess which religion the former belongs to?
I’d say both stories prove more that there’s a problem with slavery in African cultures immigrating into the UK than anything to do with religion. Not that the BBC would address the larger issue or anything.
You do make a point, but mass immigration into the Uk from Africa is fairly recent. The influx of Pakistani muslims has been going on a lot longer. (Christ, they get their own country in 1947 and the first thing they do is leave to live in the land of the people they hated and helped kick out so as to live as free people) and one of the reasons why Pakistani women are brought over here to marry isn’t because of love, but rather to have somebody to do all the dirty work. Why the bBC even admits to it.
The problem here David is that nearly every incident concerns coloured people and the PC brigade have ensured that whatever coloured people do, they can get aeway with. No matter how odious the act, somebody somewhere will excuse that behavior.
You only have to look at how people who have lived in the Uk for years require interpreters when their day in court comes along, This isn’t becasue they can’t speak english. But rather they know that if the court feels they can’t speak english, then they can’t be expected to know the law and thus get a lighter sentence.
Can’t argue with that. I was just wondering why the BBC sub-editor didn’t find space for someone from an outreach organization to say that this was a problem in African communities. I mean, it sure seems like a trend worthy of the BBC’s attention. Being British = Human Rights and all that.
“Ignorance of the law is no excuse” – a policeman informed me once when I said I didnt see the 30mph sign. Maybe I should have replied in Latin and I may have got off.
Slightly off the usual topic. I heard a snippet of some R4 comedy show- at least I think it was- round about 630. The gist of it was that the heat from a nuclear reaction is used to drive a steam turbine and how old fashioned is that and so a source of amusement.
Idiots. Dumb and dumber is too kind. It just shows the level of general knowledge in the average beeboids brain. Non exisitent.
Dave this was the “Now Show” a truly dire show that keeps getting recomissioned.
I heard the same section you did and was gobsmacked they didn’t understand the basics of how a power station worked. From memory I was taught that when I was 10 or 11 at middle school. The thought of adults with degrees not knowing that is frightening.
dave s, lighten up! **It’s a comedy show!!** I find that highly amusing.
Mind you, I have been known to be called dumb before.
=-O
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That was so good, I have put it up here.
Two unelected despots
Here we have a report that will never ever ever ever be shown on the BBC, here we have an elected representative of a democratic political party with significant electoral support making a very important speech in the BBCs own much loved parliament and what is the BBC reaction?
Libya NFZ: who pays?
Given that BBC-NUJ is careless about the cost of its activities because they are enforcibly and publicly funded by the British people, can BBC-NUJ tell us who is paying for the cost of the Libya NFZ to be imposed by ‘the international community’?
This morning I saw the programme Newswatch on the BBC where many viewers complaints were aired about BBC coverage of Japan. For example why were so many correspondents there? Were they using resources such as fuel and food which were running short?
In response we got a beeboid in essence telling us that he knows better. When challenged about hyping up the nuclear problems on the news and then going to scientists who were calmer he told us that he knows better.
If he in fact has such expertise why aren’t his skills being used at the nuclear plant itself?
‘In response we got a beeboid in essence telling us that he knows better.’
You have just described Newswatch to a ‘T’.
Missed it, but was he perchance a) grumpy at having to be called in to answer such stuff to the great unwashed who fund his market rate career, if only as a box tick sop, and b) very casual, near anorexic with shaved head and/or chubby, florid in a blazer?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qjrk2
Ok, the latter.
And of most concern? They have blown the budget.
A ton of useless makeweights flew to Japan to get in the way and accuse everyone of anything they could think of based on pure prejudice and gossip… and…. they have spent too much. Again.
Mr. ‘our research shows 90% agree with us‘ Backhurst, I can see a major saving right away. All you need is a mirror.
I was informed by the 08:00 news bulletin on TODAY that 50 people have died in protests in Yemen and that the deaths ‘have been condemned by the United States and the EU’.
Maybe I’ve missed something. As far as I’m aware the license fee is still payed by British taxpayers not the EU. The BBC should inform us of what Her Majesty’s Government says ahead of the EU. It’s rolling coup against British self-governance isn’t yet that consumated.
They’re still bound by the Charter to represent the UK first and foremost. Nobody will hold them accountable even for this.
But how much EU money do they get ?
A it of topic but isn’t it funny how the beebs poster girl for anything and everything Caroline Lucas has nailed her colours to the mast reference Libya. She has joined stop the war in condemning no fly zone as neocolonialist. Tell that to the poor bastards in bengazi you handwringing watermelon fithcolumnist bitch.
The no fly is too little too late. We cant stop gaddafi now and all the guardianistas and huffies and CNNts and beeboids with their marshmallow politics should hang their heads in shame. Lucas, with her haircut of indeterminate sexuality her whiney voice and her misanthropic Luddite politics can go shove it!
Oops. A bit off topic. Sorry one handed typing on ipad
Paddy, ain’t no such thing as off topic on the open thread.
Fair, but she isn’t so much a beeboid as a beeboid’s wet dream and thus her connection to auntie is a bit indirect. It doesn’t matter though , I still f:::in hate her just as much 🙂
you handwringing watermelon fithcolumnist bitch.
Lucas, with her haircut of indeterminate sexuality her whiney voice and her misanthropic Luddite politics can go shove it!
the finest insult i’ve heard in a while……..kudos my friend!!
Cheers, The little trot troll boils my p.ss
Caroline Lucas is Shami Chakrabarti without the tan.
I’d like to see Lucas and all the Stop The War crowd go to Benghazi and tell the Libyans to their faces that they think it’s wrong to help them. Protesters in London screaming blue murder at the police and news cameras means nothing to me, and is not a sign of integrity or true strength of conviction.
If they really feel we shouldn’t do anything, don’t tell us, go tell the people getting their asses shot that, gosh, sorry, but their principles dictate that the Libyans should keep on dying.
Say it to their faces or I have no respect.
Anyone who sympathises with terrorism will sympathise with Gaddafi, just as the stoppers were more ‘yes’ to Saddam Hussein’ than ‘no’ to the Iraq war, these will be the same in favour of Gaddafi.
I wonder if this (right click to open new window) individual will be among the scum attending? Why not? We are all anti-Semites now.
As Guest Who mentioned on page 2, the BBC in its wisdom is doing away with the Have Your Say blog:
It is a reflection of the changing online landscape and the advent of social media that we feel the time is now right to move on from Have Your Say.
This process is essentially about us online focusing more now on encouraging discussion around our content itself, rather than looking to host or manage a community.
Disentangle that and the BBC is really saying this:
We want more direct control over what we let the public say.
Well, at least they are going to have a “recommend comments” function in the new system, or so they say.
Looks like the writer was aware of how bitterly opposed people were to the removal of the old Comments Recommended page on the old HYS:
… we hope – with the introduction of editors’ picks and the return of a recommend option – to showcase interesting additional insight and perspective.
Editors’ picks will be the default view once any comments have been selected, but users will be able to then tab to see all comments and also rate them, functionality I know has been sorely missed since we had to remove it in last year’s transition phase.
Funny, that. I don’t remember him replying even once to the hundreds of comments that flooded HYS at the time, imploring the BBC to reintroduce the Comments Recommended page. Seems he was content to simply ignore them.
Editors picks=propaganda opportunity
Thus if 3% of the posts are pro agw/green/pro labour/antiwar/republican/anti-American/anti Christian/anti-Semite then they will get 90 % of the editors picks.
This is not just a random assumption but is based on the weighted position auntie gives the grauniad given it only accounts for 3% of the daily national newspaper circulation (stat curtesy of the uk press gazette December abc figures)
The whole thread is a classic.
They are either in denial or actively lashing out like some media monolothic Gadaffis… ‘but you all love us… you have to… we say you must!’
Most posts have ’em totally nailed, but they are still purging away or drumming up ‘support’ that seems to come in a form that reads more like a press release template.
Morons.
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BBC doing everything it can to keep the student loan polemic in the headlines:
“Twenty largest student debts revealed”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-your-money-12794863
“By Julia Ross Freedom of Information researcher”
The biggest debt currently owed to the Student Loans Company is £66,150, the BBC has learned.
A Freedom of Information request has revealed that the total sum of the 20 largest student debts is over £1m.”
So, the BBC is spending UK taxpayers money employing FOI researchers (??? for news? How odd) but let’s remember that they also spend UK taxpayers money to pay lawyers to PREVENT FOI about the BBC!!!
can you delete all that html please.
I liked it!
Its a Biased World
A heroic effort by a blogger (salute!) to capture the wicked false alarm reporting by the Worlds print media of the Japanese Tsunami/ Nuclear problems.
http://jpquake.wikispaces.com/Journalist+Wall+of+Shame
Quotes, byline attributions, and links. Whistle-blowing the trash that made the title “Journalist” more worthy of contempt than Human Rights Lawyer, Estate Agent, Member of Parliament, and NHS Manager.
Wow.
I guess the threads here are a blog equivalent, but the wiki idea is an interesting one.
Looks like a lot of people are not just fed up with the calibre of so-called ‘reporting’ these days, but are actively taking it to task when beyond the pale.
I’d have loved to have seen this deployed to Mr. keith ‘I think we are always just about right’ Backhurst on Newswatch.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zm0ft/Newswatch_18_03_2011/
Christmas Island: two contrasting versions-
1.) ‘Gates of Vienna’:
“It’s Christmas Time for Asylum-Seekers”
2.) INBBC version:
“Fresh riots at Australia’s Christmas Island centre”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12782424
BBC R4 Sunday morning pleasure alert.
Following on after the tale of eveyday country folk in fictional Ambridge, at 11.15 we have the Reunion, an account of the real events from April 1981 of 5 everyday inner city folk.
Yes that’s right, a celebration of the Brixton Riots !
A not to be missed unique listening experience.
You linked to two identical reports by the Telegraph.
Thanks TT, duly amended ..Two reports on rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza:-
Report 1
Report 2
One report states:-
“Hamas spokesman Ismail Radwan said the shelling was in reaction to recent Israeli airstrikes that killed militants. He warned Israel “not to test Hamas’ response.””
The other:-
“The Islamist group Hamas, which runs Gaza, said it fired some of the mortars. Three days ago an Israeli air strike killed two of its members.”
Report 2 ends:
‘Hamas is recognised by the US and the EU as a terrorist organisation. It’s charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Hamas controlled media and education indoctrinate their population with the most virulent forms of anti-Semitism.
Elections in Gaza were due 2 years ago but Hamas has refused to call them’
Sorry, the last bit I made up. The organisation behind the last report only ever tries to make democratic Israel a pariah.
WASHINGTON– The US State Department issued an explicit condemnation of the naming of a square in a West Bank town for a Palestinian terrorist
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=212812
I guess we’re unlikely to see this anytime soon on the BBC. But a quick Google also shows that the mainstream media is uninterested in the story. Not sure why. This is quite startling news – not, of course, the fact that Abbas glorifies terrorists but that the State Department, normally implacably opposed to Israel, would come out so strongly against Palestinian incitement.
Maybe Hillary Clinton bulldozing Obama to do the moral thing over Libya (I’m still pinching myself about that) has emboldened people with a conscience in the State Department?
Anyone in the MSM knows that reporting things how they are in the Arab/Israeli conflict stands every chance of making themselves and colleagues a target in the Arab countries and themselves targets for their anti-Semitic colleagues.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/20/whats-wrong-with-the-bbc-ask-bosses?CMP=twt_fd
Maybe the wrong folk are always being asked?
Even more disgraceful bias than usual from the BBC this morning.. apparently, the real story of when Israel had (yes 50) rockets fired into her territory yesterday, some Hamas terrorists got wounded.
Somebody (and not just some Stop The War Coalition numpty in the newsroom that put it together) needs to be fired for this.
“Hamas security personnel were among those wounded”.
Which leads the reader to assume that most were civilians wounded in the Israeli response.
Note also how the BBC seeks to implant in the reader’s mind that the ‘Gazan’ action was just a response to Israeli aggression? Nothing about the prior Israeli strike on Hamas being a pre-emptive strike because they knew this attack on its civilian population was brewing?
On a slight tangent, I wonder if Gaddafi promises that Libyans can only foster if they think homosexuality is normal will mean that Cameron will start bombing the rebels instead?
From the pro-BBC-NUJ ‘Guardian’s Peter Preston:
-he only superficially sees some faults with the BBC-NUJ; not crucial ones on the politically pro-left/ pro-Islam propaganda of its content. (There is no reference to Peter Sissons critique on biased content.)
“What’s wrong with the BBC? All its old bosses are eager to tell you”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/20/whats-wrong-with-the-bbc-ask-bosses?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Fmedia%2Frss+%28Media%29
INBBC and Egypt: opening the door for Muslim Brotherhood.
No mention of fate of Christian Copts.
INBBC’s earlier support for ‘popular uprising’ in Egypt turns out to be encouragement for Muslim Brotherhood supremacy.
Two contrasting reports:
1.) Reuters:
“Many Egypt Christians vote ‘no’, fearing Islamists”
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE72J03K20110320?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0
2.) INBBC:
“Large turnout for Egypt’s constitutional referendum”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12793484
“Muslim Brotherhood Goes Mainstream in Egypt”
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=54919
Will BBC-NUJ-Labour be pursuing this story about the close political relationship between Labour Government and GADDAFIS?:
“MI6 gave Gaddafi’s son London minder: Questions over Labour ties with Libya after playboy Saif given ‘point man’ ”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368026/MI6-gave-Gaddafi-s-son-London-minder-Questions-Labour-ties-Libya-playboy-Saif-given-point-man.html#ixzz1H8fMD8zI