78 Responses to OPEN THREAD…

  1. Span Ows says:

    Tim Montgomrie writes in the P.S. of his post on Conservative Home re Mark mardell bigging up what was really Obamamessiah’s failure:

    “The BBC’s Mark Mardell is spinner-in-chief for Barack Obama this morning – blogging that the White House deliberately held back so that US leadership wouldn’t frighten the horses. This really is nonsense. Obama’s administration was paralysed with divisions over the last fortnight. Mardell has been fed post-event rationalisation and he should know better.”

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/03/can-cameron-turn-a-diplomatic-triumph-into-a-military-success.html

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    • Mailman says:

      The problem is, Mardel doesnt know better.

      He is a lefty democrat lover through and through so he simply doesnt have the ability to know better.

      Mailman

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Maybe Conservative Home needs to be reminded of just how awful Mardell actually is.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Mardell does know better.  He is a hot, steamy propaganda turd.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/bbc_gives_staff_a_lesson.html

    First twitter, then this… tomorrow… ze verld!!!!

    Wonder what next?

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  3. Bupendra Bhakta says:

    My offspring, young Bup and his sister Bupa, torture me every morning with BBCC Radio 1.  As you might expect Radio 1 News, pitched as it is at people with an attention span of duh whatevva, brings an entirely new dimension to the word ‘lite’. 

    ‘Lady Gaga grows a third breast, woohoo Coxy’s just brought me in a cappucino, and bee tee double you we’ve invaded Libya’, is about the form.

    This morning shoehorned into the 30 second slot we had,

    ‘Last chance to apply for a jobs scheme that has helped a hundred thousand young people to find a job.  THAT’S BECAUSE THE NASTY TORIES WITH THEIR LIB DEM AUXILIARY UNTERMENSCHEN ARE CLOSING DOWN THE FUTURE JOBS FUND !!!! DID YOU GET THAT EVERYONE THE NASTY TORIES ARE CLOSING IT DOWN.  CUTS !!!!! CUTS !!!!! AND CUTS !!!!! 

    Oh yes and Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas has gone blonde. 

    And woohoo Fearne Cotton’s brought me in a doughnut.’

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    • hippiepooter says:

      The trials of modern parenthood are not to be underestimated.  The good thing about modern youth attention span, perhaps, is they dont pay enough attention to be indoctrinated by BBC Marxist bilge like ‘horrid histories’.

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  4. Daphne Anson says:

    Back in the ’70s, when I was so much younger and prettier than now πŸ™  there was justification for a lot of women’s lib grouses (seriously).  Now, however, the pendulum has swung so much the other way that the old intolerance has been replaced by a new intolerance.  Of late, I’ve noticed (has anybody else?) that BBC News 24  has been pulling out all the stops to interview female pundits in huge numbers on all kinds of issues ranging from banking crises to earthquakes.  The men seem to be slowly becoming eclipsed, unless, of course, there is no female available.  If the femaleshave an ethnic name, so much the better.
    In fact, I’m only half joking when I say that the average white male applicant to the BBC should seriosly consider changing his name to something like Kwami Chung Mustafa Olafsdottir if he’s to have any chance of getting to the first hurdle …

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    • NotaSheep says:

      A surname of Chakrabarti certainly seems to help.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Beeboids hate their nation with a passion.  They’ll do all they can to destroy it.  It represents a moral heritage that they can’t live up to.  Their selfish, self-deluding lives are constantly under indictment while Britannia still remains.

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  5. Daphne Anson says:

    Drat! That loaded before I’d proofed it – the perils of not using the mouse on this laptop :-[

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    • Mohammed Lovespigs says:

      No, you’re right, I agree that ethnic females should shave.

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      • Paddy says:

        Quite correct, some are quite hirsute. I always thought Moira stewart looked like a black Noddy Holder

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  6. George R says:

    Defunding NPR, and BBC.

    If only British MPs realised that similar arguments against American government funding of NPR apply to British licencepayers funding BBC:

    “House Approves Measure to Defund NPR”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/house-approves-measure-to-defund-npr/

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  7. pounce_uk says:

    So I turn the telly on and there on News 24 is a woman (haven’t a clue who, but she has dark skin) bitching about how NATO troops should not be setting foot on ‘Islamic’ Lands. 
    Isn’t it great how the bBC can find an alternative view to any story they air. A story I should add which has the approval of the (islamic) Arab League.

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  8. Shay says:

    Cameron being interviewed by Robinson stated repeatedly that he was determined to “stop the slaughter” in Libya. Robinson didn’t ask “What slaughter?”. So if it exists, why have we not been shown any evidence of it?? The nearest I have seen was in the Sky News Pallywood production from Zawiyah a week ago, where a couple of boys thrashed around on a hospital trolley showing no more than superficial cuts.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Oh, the BBC occasionally brings it up in the text crawl on the News Channel.  That’s plenty of coverage, surely.  After all, as John Simpson told Marr on Sunday, it’s really only a little skirmish, just a few dozen people on one side fighting against an even fewer dozen on the other, although he granted that one side had big guns and tanks.

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  9. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Oh, dear, what a dilemma for the Beeboids.  Cameron looks good now because the UN and The Obamessiah gave their blessing to what the BBC makes out to be his idea for military intervention in Libya.  BBC female newsreader clearly not happy, disappointment dripping even when mentioning the Prime Minister’s name.

    But The Obamessiah says we should do even more, and the UN and the Arab League are backing it, and they can’t criticize them.

    So they have to come up with new ways to attack Cameron over this.  Criticize the military strategy, spin Ghaddafi as having his power ‘cemented’ (as Barbara “Tears” Plett just said), and anything else they can think of.

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    • Craig says:

      The Guardian‘s chief political correspondent Nick Watt calls the UN resolution “the first major foreign policy triumph of (David Cameron’s) premiership”, highlighting the support of those old anti-Iraq War campaigners, Sir Malcolm Rifkind and Sir Ming Campbell.

      Contrast that with Radio 4’s chief political correspondent Norman Smith. On Today this morning (i-Player, beginning at 0.38.45). Not a sniff of any praise for Cameron, no quoting of support, just Anti-Tory Norm’s usual negative spin and hyperbole. Woe, woe and thrice woe!

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    • Guest Who says:

      I had imagined that, if the intention was to stop Col and mini-Col’s rampage, that they seem to have done so (for now) might be deemed some measure of success, strategy-wise.

      However….

      @bbc5live Gadaffi calls the world’s bluff, latest from Japan, Lawro on the CL Draw and#comicrelief at Cheltenham

      It seems it is just the latest cunning ruse by the desert lion to tweak the nose of the venal West…. according to the UK national broadcaster.

      And in more important news, lavish money on our attention-starved ‘stars’ to give to an odd variety of ‘worthy causes’… but don’t dare mention Japan.

      No pleasing some. Though this was a nice summary of the miserable reaction from the mediumratti (so little rare, so little well done)….

      TimMontgomerie RT @JohnRentoul Stop The War will be marching this afternoon in opposition to a UN resolution that has just stopped a [civil] war

      Cheerled, no doubt, to the official opposition (to near everything) that is the BBC.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      The BBC has the horror of Cameron being able to contrast his record on Libya with that of Blair and Brown at the next election.

      Of course they’ll look for ways to undermine Cameron.  Who said Libya is not like Iraq?

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      • hippiepooter says:

        I heard Justin Webb interview Gaddafi’s Deputy Prime Minister this morning.  The Gaddafi flunky was insisting that Gaddafi is popular and has the support of the Libyan people.  At no time did it occur to Webb to ask him if Gaddafi was so confident of his popular support, why at no time in his 40 years rule has he called an election, why, instead of strafing and killing his own population, didn’t he call an election instead?

        If today’s BBC was part of Britain’s democratic culture, these questions would have been axiomatic.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Aunty ran it up the flagpole…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/03/comments_and_making_our_covera.html

    Not many seem to be saluting so far.

    And, woe, the Graun crew have clocked off for the weekend already!

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  11. toddy 357a says:


    r nige gives gives it rumpy again.

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  12. toddy357a says:

    sorry i ment r nige gives it to rumpy agian.

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  13. pounce_uk says:

    Two stories from the bBC about modern day slavery in the UK.
    One is ref a woman from Harrow; the other is an illegal immigrant who apparently is a church pastor. Want to guess which religion the former belongs to?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      I’d say both stories prove more that there’s a problem with slavery in African cultures immigrating into the UK than anything to do with religion.  Not that the BBC would address the larger issue or anything.

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      • pounce_uk says:

        You do make a point, but mass immigration into the Uk from Africa is fairly recent. The influx of Pakistani muslims has been going on a lot longer. (Christ, they get their own country in 1947 and the first thing they do is leave to live in the land of the people they hated and helped kick out so as to live as free people) and one of the reasons why Pakistani women are brought over here to marry isn’t because of love, but rather to have somebody to do all the dirty work. Why the bBC even admits to it.
        The problem here David is that nearly every incident concerns coloured people and the PC brigade have ensured that whatever coloured people do, they can get aeway with. No matter how odious the act, somebody somewhere will excuse that behavior. 
        You only have to look at how people who have lived in the Uk for years require interpreters when their day in court comes along, This isn’t becasue they can’t speak english. But rather they know that if the court feels they can’t speak english, then they can’t be expected to know the law and thus get a lighter sentence.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Can’t argue with that.  I was just wondering why the BBC sub-editor didn’t find space for someone from an outreach organization to say that this was a problem in African communities.  I mean, it sure seems like a trend worthy of the BBC’s attention.  Being British = Human Rights and all that.

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        • John Horne Tooke says:

          “Ignorance of the law is no excuse” – a policeman informed me once when I said I didnt see the 30mph sign. Maybe I should have replied in Latin and I may have got off.

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  14. dave s says:

    Slightly off the usual topic. I heard a snippet of some R4 comedy show- at least I think it was- round about 630. The gist of it was that the heat from a  nuclear reaction is used to drive a steam turbine and how old fashioned is that and so a source of amusement. 
    Idiots. Dumb and dumber is too kind. It just shows the level of general knowledge in the average beeboids brain. Non exisitent.

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    • 1327 says:

      Dave this was the “Now Show” a truly dire show that keeps getting recomissioned.

      I heard the same section you did and was gobsmacked they didn’t understand the basics of how a power station worked. From memory I was taught that when I was 10 or 11 at middle school. The thought of adults with degrees not knowing that is frightening.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      dave s, lighten up!  **It’s a comedy show!!**  I find that highly amusing.

      Mind you, I have been known to be called dumb before.

      =-O

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  15. james1070 says:

    @toddy 357a<img src=”images/icon10-external-url.png”/>

    That was so good, I have put it up here.

    Two unelected despots

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    • Cassandra King says:

      Here we have a report that will never ever ever ever be shown on the BBC, here we have an elected representative of a democratic political party with significant electoral support making a very important speech in the BBCs own much loved parliament and what is the BBC reaction?

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  16. George R says:

    Libya NFZ: who pays?

    Given that BBC-NUJ is careless about the cost of its activities because they are  enforcibly and publicly funded by the British people, can BBC-NUJ tell us who is paying for the cost of the Libya NFZ to be imposed by ‘the international community’?

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  17. Samantha Vickers says:

    This morning I saw the programme Newswatch on the BBC where many viewers complaints were aired about BBC coverage of Japan. For example why were so many correspondents there? Were they using resources such as fuel and food which were running short?

    In response we got a beeboid in essence telling us that he knows better. When challenged about hyping up the nuclear problems on the news and then going to scientists who were calmer he told us that he knows better.

    If he in fact has such expertise why aren’t his skills being used at the nuclear plant itself?

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    • Guest Who says:

      In response we got a beeboid in essence telling us that he knows better.’

      You have just described Newswatch to a ‘T’.

      Missed it, but was he perchance a) grumpy at having to be called in to answer such stuff to the great unwashed who fund his market rate career, if only as a box tick sop, and b) very casual, near anorexic with shaved head and/or chubby, florid in a blazer?

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      • Guest Who says:

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qjrk2

        Ok, the latter.

        And of most concern? They have blown the budget. 

        A ton of useless makeweights flew to Japan to get in the way and accuse everyone of anything they could think of based on pure prejudice and gossip… and…. they have spent too much. Again.

        Mr.our research shows 90% agree with usBackhurst, I can see a major saving right away. All you need is a mirror.

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  18. hippiepooter says:

    I was informed by the 08:00 news bulletin on TODAY that 50 people have died in protests in Yemen and that the deaths ‘have been condemned by the United States and the EU’.

    Maybe I’ve missed something.  As far as I’m aware the license fee is still payed by British taxpayers not the EU.  The BBC should inform us of what Her Majesty’s Government says ahead of the EU.  It’s rolling coup against British self-governance isn’t yet that consumated.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      They’re still bound by the Charter to represent the UK first and foremost.  Nobody will hold them accountable even for this.

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  19. Paddy says:

    A it of topic but isn’t it funny how the beebs poster girl for anything and everything Caroline Lucas has nailed her colours to the mast reference Libya. She has joined stop the war in condemning no fly zone as neocolonialist. Tell that to the poor bastards in bengazi you handwringing watermelon fithcolumnist bitch.
    The no fly is too little too late. We cant stop gaddafi now and all the guardianistas and huffies and CNNts and beeboids with their marshmallow politics should hang their heads in shame. Lucas, with her haircut of indeterminate sexuality her whiney voice and her misanthropic Luddite politics can go shove it!

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    • Paddy says:

      Oops. A bit off topic. Sorry one handed typing on ipad

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      • TooTrue says:

        Paddy, ain’t no such thing as off topic on the open thread.

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        • Paddy says:

          Fair, but she isn’t so much a beeboid as a beeboid’s wet dream and thus her connection to auntie is a bit indirect. It doesn’t matter though , I still f:::in hate her just as much πŸ™‚

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    • ltwf1964 says:

      you handwringing watermelon fithcolumnist bitch.  



       Lucas, with her haircut of indeterminate sexuality her whiney voice and her misanthropic Luddite politics can go shove it!

      the finest insult i’ve heard in a while……..kudos my friend!!

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    • Llew says:

      Caroline Lucas is Shami Chakrabarti without the tan.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        I’d like to see Lucas and all the Stop The War crowd go to Benghazi and tell the Libyans to their faces that they think it’s wrong to help them.  Protesters in London screaming blue murder at the police and news cameras means nothing to me, and is not a sign of integrity or true strength of conviction.

        If they really feel we shouldn’t do anything, don’t tell us, go tell the people getting their asses shot that, gosh, sorry, but their principles dictate that the Libyans should keep on dying.

        Say it to their faces or I have no respect.

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        • hippiepooter says:

          Anyone who sympathises with terrorism will sympathise with Gaddafi, just as the stoppers were more ‘yes’ to Saddam Hussein’ than ‘no’ to the Iraq war, these will be the same in favour of Gaddafi.  
           
          I wonder if this (right click to open new window) individual will be among the scum attending?  Why not?  We are all anti-Semites now.

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  20. TooTrue says:

    As Guest Who mentioned on page 2, the BBC in its wisdom is doing away with the Have Your Say blog:

    It is a reflection of the changing online landscape and the advent of social media that we feel the time is now right to move on from Have Your Say.

    This process is essentially about us online focusing more now on encouraging discussion around our content itself, rather than looking to host or manage a community.

    Disentangle that and the BBC is really saying this:

    We want more direct control over what we let the public say.

    Well, at least they are going to have a “recommend comments” function in the new system, or so they say.

    Looks like the writer was aware of how bitterly opposed people were to the removal of the old Comments Recommended page on the old HYS:

    … we hope – with the introduction of editors’ picks and the return of a recommend option – to showcase interesting additional insight and perspective.

    Editors’ picks will be the default view once any comments have been selected, but users will be able to then tab to see all comments and also rate them, functionality I know has been sorely missed since we had to remove it in last year’s transition phase.

    Funny, that. I don’t remember him replying even once to the hundreds of comments that flooded HYS at the time, imploring the BBC to reintroduce the Comments Recommended page. Seems he was content to simply ignore them.

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    • Paddy says:

      Editors picks=propaganda opportunity

      Thus if 3% of the posts are pro agw/green/pro labour/antiwar/republican/anti-American/anti Christian/anti-Semite then they will get 90 % of the editors picks.

      This is not just a random assumption but is based on the weighted position auntie gives the grauniad given it only accounts for 3% of the daily national newspaper circulation (stat curtesy of the uk press gazette December abc figures)

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    • Guest Who says:

      The whole thread is a classic. 

      They are either in denial or actively lashing out like some media monolothic Gadaffis… ‘but you all love us… you have to… we say you must!’

      Most posts have ’em totally nailed, but they are still purging away or drumming up ‘support’ that seems to come in a form that reads more like a press release template.

      Morons.

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  21. Span Ows says:

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    BBC doing everything it can to keep the student loan polemic in the headlines:
     
    “Twenty largest student debts revealed”  
     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-your-money-12794863

     
    “By Julia Ross Freedom of Information researcher”
     
    The biggest debt currently owed to the Student Loans Company is £66,150, the BBC has learned.
    A Freedom of Information request has revealed that the total sum of the 20 largest student debts is over £1m.”
     
    So, the BBC is spending UK taxpayers money employing FOI researchers (??? for news? How odd) but let’s remember that they also spend UK taxpayers money to pay lawyers to PREVENT FOI about the BBC!!!

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  22. London Calling says:

    Its a Biased World

    A heroic effort by a blogger (salute!) to capture the wicked false alarm reporting by the Worlds print media of the Japanese Tsunami/ Nuclear problems.

    http://jpquake.wikispaces.com/Journalist+Wall+of+Shame

    Quotes, byline attributions, and links. Whistle-blowing the trash that made the title “Journalist” more worthy of contempt than Human Rights Lawyer, Estate Agent, Member of Parliament, and NHS Manager.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Wow.

      I guess the threads here are a blog equivalent, but the wiki idea is an interesting one.

      Looks like a lot of people are not just fed up with the calibre of so-called ‘reporting’ these days, but are actively taking it to task when beyond the pale.

      I’d have loved to have seen this deployed to Mr. keith ‘I think we are always just about right’ Backhurst on Newswatch.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zm0ft/Newswatch_18_03_2011/

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  23. George R says:

    Christmas Island: two contrasting versions-

    1.) ‘Gates of Vienna’:

    It’s Christmas Time for Asylum-Seekers

    2.) INBBC version:

    “Fresh riots at Australia’s Christmas Island centre”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12782424

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  24. john says:

    BBC R4 Sunday morning pleasure alert.

    Following on after the tale of eveyday country folk in fictional Ambridge, at 11.15 we have the Reunion, an account of the real events from April 1981 of 5 everyday inner city folk.

    Yes that’s right, a celebration of the Brixton Riots !

    A not to be missed unique listening experience.

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  25. TooTrue says:

    You linked to two identical reports by the Telegraph.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Thanks TT, duly amended ..Two reports on rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza:-  
       
      Report 1  
       
      Report 2  
       
      One report states:-  
       
      “Hamas spokesman Ismail Radwan said the shelling was in reaction to recent Israeli airstrikes that killed militants. He warned Israel “not to test Hamas’ response.””  
       
      The other:-  
       
      “The Islamist group Hamas, which runs Gaza, said it fired some of the mortars. Three days ago an Israeli air strike killed two of its members.”  
       
      Report 2 ends:  
       
      ‘Hamas is recognised by the US and the EU as a terrorist organisation.  It’s charter calls for the destruction of Israel.  Hamas controlled media and education indoctrinate their population with the most virulent forms of anti-Semitism.  
       
      Elections in Gaza were due 2 years ago but Hamas has refused to call them’  
       
      Sorry, the last bit I made up.  The organisation behind the last report only ever tries to make democratic Israel a pariah.

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  26. TooTrue says:

    WASHINGTON– The US State Department issued an explicit condemnation of the naming of a square in a West Bank town for a Palestinian terrorist

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=212812

    I guess we’re unlikely to see this anytime soon on the BBC. But a quick Google also shows that the mainstream media is uninterested in the story. Not sure why. This is quite startling news – not, of course, the fact that Abbas glorifies terrorists but that the State Department, normally implacably opposed to Israel, would come out so strongly against Palestinian incitement.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Maybe Hillary Clinton bulldozing Obama to do the moral thing over Libya (I’m still pinching myself about that) has emboldened people with a conscience in the State Department?

      Anyone in the MSM knows that reporting things how they are in the Arab/Israeli conflict stands every chance of making themselves and colleagues a target in the Arab countries and themselves targets for their anti-Semitic colleagues.

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  27. Philip says:

    Even more disgraceful bias than usual from the BBC this morning.. apparently, the real story of when Israel had (yes 50) rockets fired into her territory yesterday, some Hamas terrorists got wounded.

    Somebody (and not just some Stop The War Coalition numpty in the newsroom that put it together) needs to be fired for this.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      “Hamas security personnel were among those wounded”.

      Which leads the reader to assume that most were civilians wounded in the Israeli response.

      Note also how the BBC seeks to implant in the reader’s mind that the ‘Gazan’ action was just a response to Israeli aggression?  Nothing about the prior Israeli strike on Hamas being a pre-emptive strike because they knew this attack on its civilian population was brewing?

      On a slight tangent, I wonder if Gaddafi promises that Libyans can only foster if they think homosexuality is normal will mean that Cameron will start bombing the rebels instead?

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  28. George R says:

    From the pro-BBC-NUJ ‘Guardian’s Peter Preston:

    -he only superficially sees some faults with the BBC-NUJ; not crucial ones on the politically pro-left/ pro-Islam propaganda of its content. (There is no reference to Peter Sissons critique on biased content.)

    “What’s wrong with the BBC? All its old bosses are eager to tell you”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/20/whats-wrong-with-the-bbc-ask-bosses?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Fmedia%2Frss+%28Media%29

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  29. George R says:

    INBBC and Egypt: opening the door for Muslim Brotherhood.
    No mention of fate of Christian Copts.

    INBBC’s earlier support for ‘popular uprising’ in Egypt turns out to be encouragement for Muslim Brotherhood supremacy.

    Two contrasting reports:

    1.) Reuters:

    “Many Egypt Christians vote ‘no’, fearing Islamists”

    http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE72J03K20110320?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

    2.) INBBC:

    “Large turnout for Egypt’s constitutional referendum”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12793484

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  30. George R says:

    Will BBC-NUJ-Labour be pursuing this story about the close political relationship between Labour Government and GADDAFIS?:

    “MI6 gave Gaddafi’s son London minder: Questions over Labour ties with Libya after playboy Saif given ‘point man’ ”

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