Vintage morning on the BBC. Is it REALLY necessary for immigrants coming to England to learn English?
Give THIS interview a whirl if you dare. It concerns Rashida Chapti, who has lived here for six years (the basis of her residence is not discussed or considered) and whose husband cannot join her unless he learns our language. She is challenging the law as a breach of her human rights! Listen to the easy ride her risible story gets – apparently her husband, at 58, is just too old to learn a new language. It’s an intolerable burden that the wicked Coaliton is imposing!What a scam. My question is why is she here The idea of wannabe immigrants being forced to assimilate into our British culture offends the multiculturalist elite (Am I allowed to even SAY that after Oslol?) in the BBC and the idea is being projected that expecting people coming to live in England to go to the bother of learning English is racist. Simple as that.
I picked up a wonderful cliche t’other day – “social cohesion”. It is seen as “good” by the sort of people who think about society. It seems to me that speaking the “native” language is an essential pre-requisite to achieving this end. Ah well.
Now to pay my gas bill.
58 too old to learn the language?
but not too old
to get over here?
for , the benefits?,
the NHS?,
increased living standards?
etc etc etc
another scammer from the sub continent
We got that cliche from the EU.
Yes, folks, we are now fluent in Eurospeak!
A reprise:
“Requiring immigrants to speak English ‘breaches human rights,’ claims couple as they launch legal bid to overturn ruling”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019056/UK-immigration-Speaking-English-requirement-breaches-human-rights-claim-couple.html#ixzz1TJqLrToy
As someone in my 50s trying to learn Latin from a book for pleasure I don’t appreciate being told I am too old to learn another language. At least I can look to my great-grandmother who came to the UK in her 80s and then spoke English (speaking German didn’t go down well in England during WW2) and learnt Ancient Greek at the same age to read the bible in an original form.
Maybe someone needs to tell the BBC and the Human Rights lawyer that languages don’t have to be learnt on-line.
But like David V I asked myself why this lady came to the UK 6 years ago and how she affords her regular trips back to India. In addition with all the Today’s menitoning of pensions I wondered what savings she has for her pension and will her husband be able to claim a UK pension with less than 10 years of paying into the system.
In my late 50s I needed a change of career course – so I self-trained to be a Cisco design engineer. Yes it was a sweat, but needs must when the devil drives.
Hell, the man’s wife doesn’t appear to speak English.
The couple do need to be re-united. In India.
Whatever about the pension, he will in any case be able to get free health care from the NHS.
Latin, a wonderful language. Wish I had paid more attention when at school in Latin class.
David Vance,
Same here. I wish had paid more attention in latin classes. I am not 58 yet , but am trying to learn Portuguese and latin is a great help.
Also trying to learn Wolof and a bit of Mandinka.
My late father started learning Turkish in his 50s ( and spoke and wrote it beautifully ) and Scots Gaelic in his 70s.
What is wrong with these people ? Are they thick or lazy or both ?
I suspect your great grandmother was grateful to this country which provided her with a sanctuary from persecution and, probably, murder. I also suspect that – along with any number of Jews fleeing here from persecution in the late 19th century and the 1930s – her first thought was not to rip off as much she could from Britain’s taxpayers. Rather she and her descendants worked bloody hard to make their way without being parasitical on the host country. The history of Jewish immigration to the UK is a fascinating one. Moreover, the results of that immigration are a credit to the Jewish community here and have been of substantial benefit in any number of ways to the host country.
Now contrast that stirring story to that of the waves of immigrants who have been welcomed to this country since WW2. Need I write more?
She and her husband sound like parasites.
And they will want to bring all their children – plus grandchildren.
We have to be crazy to even contemplate this nonsense. Australia, NZ, Canada, the US, most countries in Europeb would say “Nice to have met you, Goodbye”.
Indeed – they would have sent her home a long time since.
(Have you found the Latin version of Winnie-The-Pooh” ?
How does this breach her human rights? She could go and live in India with her husband? Why does he have a right to come and live here? In many other countries a person of that age would have to prove they are financially able to support themselves, but given the description on the radio I guess he would come and be able to draw on the pensions that we have all paid for.
The laxity of control and scale of immigration to the UK in recent decades is an issue that no-one has been able to raise in debate – and the BBC has never discussed it. During my own lifetime my home city, in the Midlands, has reached the point where I would now be an ethnic minority if I still lived there – this is a real possibility in the 2011 census. This is an extraordinary situation of social change, but I am scared to mention the city and hesitant to raise this issue even in this posting because I will be accused of being a racistll
if it is a real problem, to travel from a “remote village” to learn some english, but to get here to England…no problem
i like, the manner in which the the asian contributer said ”
of course i don t see anything wrong, if someone speaks english”
says everything
I know! Very generous of him to concede that it isn’t wrong to speak English in England. Amazing.
Is this the woman that has seven grown up children who are going to be allowed to come here no questions asked.
Seven children now equals seven spouses next year plus several children each in a few more years plus cousins to marry those children in another twenty years.
yep! really going to town on this
bbc r5contrive 9.00am 1hr long drone…i mean phone in
“do you, REALLY, need to speak english ?” in the uk…
obviously an issue close to beebos heart…
as above interview with an indian (translated) 🙂
her husband….immigrant welfare board etc
suppose chakrabati is somewhere
lurking with intent
ohhh brother!
Easy solution.
1. Close down the BBC
2. Keep the rump of a World Service to be an Open University conduit for the English Language Unit.
3. Transmit said courses-nation shall speak unto nation and all that.
4. If they can pay and pass the exams-let `em in!
We therefore lose the BBC, provide plenty lecturers with work to offset the Tory cuts, we become a world leader-and we squash immigration as seen by the time servers, greasy advocacy “champions”…and keep Labour forever unelectable!
What`s not to likey-likey?
I should ,of course: have made it clearer that the courses need only BBC English to pass.
1.Cuts
2.Tory Cuts
3.Unacceptable/inappropriate/disproportionate/regrettable/lessons will be learned.
4. Passionate, caring, quality, deliver, excellence, investment, equality anf fairness.
5. Cheque please(oh they`re outdated)-well “where is Lunar House bruv innit?” ought to do it!
Bersteins restricted code never looked so good!
Yes, why IS she here? Well said Ron Todd, another massive third world family on the threshold of a bountiful life in the UK, free to breed like rabbits. Angry, i’m apoplectic. What to do though? Civil disorder is just around the corner.
The most worrying thing is that our historical laws can be overthrown for the abstract, ideological nonsense of ‘human rights’. As Disraeli wrote of England’s great statesmen;
‘They knew that if once they admitted the abstract
rights of subjects, they must inevitably advance
to the abstract rights of men, and then that the
very foundations of their civil polity would sink
beneath them.’
Just when you think it may all have been a bit exaggerated, all this multiculti stuff, tyhis is still England isn’t it, what lands on my doormat today? A flyer from my local Tesco
http://tinyurl.com/42oeuut
Such sensitivity in the wake of Oslo.
Ah Ramadan.
I spent a year in the Gulf a few years back.
Took a cutting from the local press. I always think of it when the Ramadan stuff comes wafting through the airwaves courtesy of the BBC.
“Guests at a hotel buffet in Bahrain queue for meats, stews, curries and pastries, balancing food on their plates in increasingly precarious mounds to break the daily fast during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. The banquet often continues late into the night in Gulf Arab countries, and many Muslims end up gaining weight during a month that is meant to improve health and remind the devout of the plight of the poor. Muslims do not eat or drink from sunrise to sunset in Ramadan, during which followers are meant to renew their ties with God through prayer. Islam’s Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is said to have broken his fast gradually and eaten modestly, starting with dates and water – a far cry from guests seen pouncing on piles of rich food at any of the Gulf’s iftar, or breakfast, banquets. “I always put on a lot of weight during Ramadan. It’s a big problem,” said student Ali Hussein. “Firstly people eat too much, secondly they don’t carry on their normal routine and sleep a lot, and thirdly Ramadan food is very rich.”
Tents are erected around the Gulf during Ramadan to house the banquets, usually buffets laid on by hotel chains. Many are lavish affairs sponsored by large corporations. Tasty but calorific delights particular to the season’s feasts include various pastries stuffed with cream and nuts or soaked in syrup, or both. Iftar weight gain is compounded by sohour or ghabga feasts, a similar meal to iftar scheduled later in the evening, and also by the Gulf’s shorter Ramadan working hours, when many choose to sleep during pre-iftar hours rather than feel hungry.”
Well its obviously a waste of time for them to learn to speak English when in a few years time it will not be the principal language in this country .
As a counter to INBBC’s daily campaign for Islamic colonisation of Britain:
“The inability to speak a host country’s language reinforces dangerous divisions in society – and it is a very reasonable requirement of any immigrant. ”
(by David Green).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8666450/If-you-dont-speak-English-you-cant-belong-in-Britain.html
Radio 5 did a phone in on this this morning, dame Nicola Campbell seemed rather flustered that “overwhelmingly” the callers and texters were in agreement with the government. So Dame Nicki wheeled out some dozy bird who champions the rights of immigrants (to presumably abuse the welfare state)
We got the usual lie from some Liebore halfwit who prattled on that the English don’t learn Spanish when going on holiday to Benidorm.
Of course the Costa del Sol is a tourist area, it makes billions for Spain not just from Brits but other nationalities as well.
Yes some Brits retire there but that is nothing like people who move to the REAL parts of Spain, or France who do learn the language.
Friends of mine moved to the south of France BECAUSE of the French culture and lifestyle, what they didn’t do is move there and then demand the whole village speak to them in English etc.
No doubt the BBC think they could bump up the TV tax is they could get the Government to fund more BBC channels in foreign languages.
Too true, sick of hearing the “quivering lips & ” im aghast” diatribe
from these bloody beeboites, in their bullsh-t bubble
They want to get stuck in the middle of Oldham for a couple of months
wake up & smell the coffee.
The reasons that this old indian wants to be here :- free health care,
free benefits., free roof over his head, this tosh about him working …give me a break, if he was bothered about that, he ed have been paying in to the system, the last 30 yrs, instead of just another freeloader fleecing the system.
I’d make a crass remark about how people should encourage the creation of an underclass who don’t speak enough of the local language to succeed and will permanently be that much-needed low-wage working class à la Huxley’s Deltas, but we all know these people will be on benefits and not work. If they do work, it will be for cash under the table at a local business run by one of their ethnic brethren, and will not contribute to society outside of the street in which they live. If they don’t learn English, that is.
Well everything then is racist really.
The fact that someone of another race is not allowed to just walkin and settle down here cause they’re not British is also racist, by definition. As the Tory guy mentioned, you have to draw the line somewhere.
I do however think most Indians would actually agree that this person should learn English before being able to settle here.