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  1. My Site (click to edit) says:
    September 4, 2011 at 9:04 am

    May be just a glitch in the new, improved, cheaper, faster and better (there are several ‘The Editors’ posts to tell us so, if oddly quickly closed when facts started spoiling things) BBC blog system, but I was amused by the ‘latest’ (‘we don’t want to go back to skool, mummy’) post from Paul Mason:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14579710

    This current message rather neatly sums the BBC’s ed/mod policy:

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    Again, for ‘Beware of the Leopard’ levels of two-faced incompetent irony, Douglas Adams would have approved.

     

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    • It's all too much says:
      September 4, 2011 at 11:24 am

      Only in the BBC can they make a fully paid up communist the economice editor.  Perhaps thley should recruit an Afrian Shaman to be chief health editor, and a levitating Fakir (many thanks for the great ‘Fakir Off’ gag whoever posyed it yesterday) to be aviation reporter.

      Even as I jest a Beeboid is noting these down and a n e-mail is on its’ way offering £250K + expenses to a Namibian San bushman shaman healer.  Ticks two boxes you see, proper reporting and addresses the terrible under representation of african nomadic hunter-gatherers in senior BBC reporting positions.

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      • As I See It says:
        September 4, 2011 at 11:44 am

        BBC’s Paul Mason on economics!

        They just don’t see the irony.

        I remember a mate once offering me a look at the Guardian business pages. To which offer I said ‘what would be the point, considering they don’t believe in capitalism?’

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        September 4, 2011 at 4:16 pm

        At least a Namibian shaman would have a firm grasp of basic supply and demand economics.

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  2. George R says:
    September 4, 2011 at 9:48 am

    BBC-NUJ’s permanent political vendetta against English Defence League.

    It must be remembered that BBC journalists’ trade union, NUJ is politically opposed to the EDL, and supports the UAF, as is apparent in all the NUJ ‘reporting’ on EDL.

    What BBC-NUJ censors:

    “Video: Islamo-Marxist Mob confronts Police”

    http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/09/video-islamo-marxist-mob-confront.html

    Also at ‘Durotrigan’, 3 Sept:

    “Celebrities note the Death of London and the EDL prepares for Tower Hamlets ”

    http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/09/celebrities-note-death-of-london-and.html

    BBC-NUJ (note how UAF is not mentioned, and how it is not linked by BBC-NUJ to any arrests):

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14778429

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  3. George R says:
    September 4, 2011 at 10:32 am

    BBC-NUJ is applying censorship also to revelations about its beloved Labour government’s political alliance with the Gaddafis.

    ‘Daily Mail’ has more:

    “Devastating secret files reveal Labour lies over Gaddafi: Dictator warned of holy war if Lockerbie bomber Megrahi died in Scotland”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033460/Secret-files-Labour-lied-Gaddafi–warned-holy-war-Megrahi-died-Scotland.html#ixzz1WyhlDnop

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  4. cjhartnett says:
    September 4, 2011 at 11:14 am

    If the BBC fear and despise the EDL that much, then I hope that many others will look into them as an alternative.
    At least the Tommy Robinsons of the world are human…the confusion of Newsnights team is evident whenever they speak to him.
    Like Geert Wilders…if the Beeb hate you, you`re alright by me!

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    • George R says:
      September 4, 2011 at 11:31 am

      Quite.

      This was the prosecuted, persecuted, cornered, BBC-NUJ condemned, ‘Tommy Robinson’ yesterday (10 min video):

      Tommy Robinson’s Speech in Tower Hamlets

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      • Reed says:
        September 4, 2011 at 4:19 pm

        I thought he handled himself very well on Newsnight a few weeks ago. Even Paxman seemed to struggle to lay a finger on him.

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        • Wally Greeninker says:
          September 4, 2011 at 10:33 pm

          Actually, Paxman presented him with an open goal which he failed to take. At one point, a propos of the Pakistani groomers and gang rapists, Paxo hectored him along the lines of: ‘don’t you realise there are any number of purely white paedophile rings doing exactly the same thing?’. Robinson could have replied:’ I’m in your debt, Jeremy – up to now I’d had no idea there were gangs of English paedophiles exclusively targetting vulnerable, underage Muslim girls.’

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  5. George R says:
    September 4, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Just as BBC-NUJ relegates anti-Israel sabotage of London Proms, so too, BBC-NUJ censors reports of Islamic propagandist at Amsterdam concert, two days later.

    Netherlands: Muslim disrupts concert for Queen to preach Islam

    Re-BBC Proms:

    “A Proms protest with a whiff of Weimar about it”

    (Stephen Pollard)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/proms/8737692/A-Proms-protest-with-a-whiff-of-Weimar-about-it.html

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      September 4, 2011 at 4:31 pm

      No surprise that the BBC censored this news.  It might give the public cause to think an unapproved thought.

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  6. Martin says:
    September 4, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    I see the BBC are going to do a Panorama into Osbourne and Coulson, no doubt backed by the Guardian.

    How about a Panorama investigation into 13 years of corruption and lies from Nu Liebore?

    Thought not.

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  7. Martin says:
    September 4, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    How typical the Tories just can’t get anything right. Some wanker in Scotland says lets scrap the Tory party so it’s an excuse for the BBC to ignore the Brown/Darling story (which is the top story on Sky News) and go on about it at the top story. Who gives a toss about Scotland?

    The Tories really are thick shits.

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  8. pounce_uk says:
    September 4, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    The bBC, reporting from Korea and half the story.  
    S Korea activists protest at Jeju naval base  
    Demonstrations have been held on the South Korean island of Jeju to protest at construction of a new naval base.Tensions have been rising over the past week as police moved in to the site to remove protesters who have been blocking access since June. The government says the $970m (£600m) development is vital for national security. But residents and activists argue that the base could spark regional tensions and is damaging to the environment.  
     
    So reading the above it appears the locals are against the military from building a Naval Base because of a fear of damaging the environment and of upsetting the neighbours. However while at first sight that report comes across as open and informative here is what the bBC doesn’t tell you.  
    Have a look on the map to see where Jeju Island is, why it’s right down at the bottom of korea, it is closer to Korea than anybody else, it is much much closer to Japan than China, yet the report points to upsetting China. Have another look at themap, (Something the bBC doesn’t provide) why would China get bothered about a Naval base in clearly Korean waters in which Chinese shipping has no need to traverse.  
     
    Also the bBC doesn’t mention that Jeju Island was the scene of pro North Korean protests prior to the start of the Korean warand when those protests turned violent a clamp down by the Korean government saw 13,000 people killed ,  Things only got worse during the North Korean War and the government clamped down hard on the land and it is estimated that over 20,000 people picked up by the police were killed inside prisons. Until 2006 it was an arrestable crime followed by beatings, torture and a lengthy prison sentence if any South Korean even mentioned the events of the Jeju uprising. 

    Yet instead of telling it how it is,(that the Islanders mistrust the Korean military)  the bBC tell us how they think it should be, which kind of explains this little snippet:  
    “They say the naval base – which will be open to US warships “  
    Tell me, is it a crime to be American nowadays?, according to the bBC it is.  

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  9. David Preiser (USA) says:
    September 4, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    So Turkey is apparently going to take Israel to some international court over the blockade of Gaza.  Fine, that’s better than a war or a proxy war.  But check out this bit from the accompanying article by BBC Istanbul correspondent Jonathan Head about how this is a “new low” in the relationship between the two countries.

    The gist of the piece is that this is Israel;s fault, and that Ertogan is acting only to reflect the wishes of the people.

    Senior diplomats have been exploring a form of words which could sound like an apology to Turkey, but be presented as something less than an apology to Israel. The publication of the UN inquiry was delayed three times to allow the talks to progress, and as recently as last month they seemed close to a deal.

    That this did not happen is a consequence of domestic politics in both countries. Hardliners within the governing coalition in Israel opposed any statement that sounded like an apology. And the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, kept up a torrent of criticism of Israel.

    “Hardliners” in the Israeli government, so is Ertogan a hardliner as well for his actions? Don’t be sily:

    His constituency is a conservative, Muslim one which is strongly sympathetic to the Palestinians, and hostile to Israel, so talking tough goes down well with his supporters; a compromise would have been a harder sell, and probably distasteful to a politician who gets visibly angry about Israeli policies.

    As if Turkey has always been this way, and  nothing to do with Ertogan’s Islamism and the rise of fundamentalist Islam in the country.

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