“Who is the BBC’s poster boy, the expert on Islamic radicalisation?
Frank Gardiner, BBC, uses Hanif Qadir to tell us how angry Muslim youth are about our foreign policy.
he happily confirms that Jihad is fundamental to his beliefs…as long as innocents are not killed….and ,er, none in Britain anyway.
He also tells us that the most vulnerable to radicalisation are those with ‘sympathy, compassion and pity along with anger against Western oppression.’….and as his brother tells us ‘they are right to be angry’ as Muslims are oppressed around the world by the West….so really they are quite good people, maybe the best, just mislead in how they go about standing up for their views.
Harry’s Place tells us more about who he associates with and why these anti-radicalisation groups (mostly run by so called ex-radicals) are not all they seem….anything involving Tariq Ramadan has to be suspect.
Note also that the BBC, and Eliza Manningham-Buller, still insist the Muslim Brotherhood are entirely benign and pro democracy….aren’t they?
‘They (MB) stand for the fusing of church and state, and the dominance of non-democratic religious law over man made law, the rejection of fundamental human rights standards, the entrenching of gender and religious inequality, the lack of freedom to change or abandon religious beliefs, except in one direction, and the death penalty for those who do. They are not a non-violent organisation. In Egypt, they do not engage in terrorism, but that is a tactical decision only. However, Hamas – which is the Muslim Brotherhood – directs terrorist attacks against civilians, without shame: a policy which is sanctioned religiously by the Muslim Brotherhood’s religious leader, Yusuf Al Qaradawi.’
http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/06/campus-salam-the-institutionalising-of-the-muslim-brotherhood/
‘Campus Salam held its first event:
‘What is the place for Islamic Political thinking in the UK today?’
What is the place of Islamic political thinking? You decide! A free event where students interrogate the experts, who are Tariq Ramadan , Anas Altikriti, Barbara Zoller, Sheikh Bahmanpour, Osama Saeed & Hanif Qadir.
The Centre for Social Cohesion has it spot on:
” Campus salam’s inaugural event was a debate featuring Tariq Ramadan (arguably Europe’s most prominent defender of the Muslims Brotherhood), Anas Altikriti (the former spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain), Barbara Zollner (an academic who believes the Muslim Brotherhood are now moderate), Osama Saeed (the Muslim Association of Britain’s Scottish spokesman). The two other panelists included Sheikh Bahmanpour, who teaches at the Hawza Ilmiyya, a Shia school in East London which reportedly teaches that unbelievers are “filth” and Hanif Qadir, a youth worker who tried to join the Taliban in 2002.
The ‘anger’ meme, as sloppy journalism or moronic editorial, has long grown very thin outside the MSM bubble.
Especially as any form of excuse, for actions or how they are portrayed.
If you are English, who are your “Community Leaders”? What “Prevent” strategy is their to wean vulnerable young England football fans from falling under the spell of the EDL? They have every right to be angry. How else is their natural anger at seeing their communities overrun to be channeled? Join the bBC and spend each day standing on your head.
You write ‘he happily confirms that Jihad is fundamental to his beliefs…as long as innocents are not killed….and ,er, none in Britain anyway.’
Remember who is considered ‘innocent’ by Islamists… as Anjem Choudary (and other Islamists) have declared:
‘When we say innocent people we mean Muslims, as far as non-Muslims are concerned they have not accepted Islam and as far as we are concerned that is a crime against God… As far as Muslims are concerned, you are innocent if you are a Muslim, then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are a non-Muslim then you are guilty of not believing in God… I must have hatred to anything that is not Islam”‘
Remember that comment the next time some Islamist apologist says that Islam forbids the killing of ‘innocents’. They do not consider anyone non-Muslim to be innocent; to them we are now, as we were on 9/11, all legitimate targets.
As you wrote, it depends on what the definition for an innocent is in Islam.
Again Islam is the religion of peace. But what kind of peace, when Muslims aremirdering each other and innocent non-Muslims. Peace of course means the time when the nation is under sharia.
Seem to recall over thirty Muslims died in the WTC at the hands of the “glorious 19” hijackers
Muslim Victims of 9/11
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/a/Muslim-Victims-Of-9-11-Attack.htm
Explain that one Anjem? The man who claims he can’t afford to get a job because he would lose the subsidy on his council flat. An Islamic parasite on the infidel? Guess that’s OK then.
‘What is the place for Islamic Political thinking in the UK today?’
there we are from the political ideology itself.
religion?????
no more words needed
Islam to me is right to use its calendar.
It is 2011 A.D to us…it is 1430( or therabouts)to them I think.
If we look at where we were in 1430 as a society, then it is safe to consider Islam as being like that…pre reformation, pre enlightenment, pre criticism.
That the BBC and this worthless state apparatus trat them like they have a 21st Century view on anything is ludicrous.
As long as they are literal Muslims, their voice is as relevant as whether Gloucester or Buckingham were to blame for starting the Wars of the Roses in their choice of Latin or French.
Now then -there`s this new free school called Eton I to open today, and an opinion piece on whether Joan of Arc might have had less influence had she received a “frappe de la commune” and not “morte de la feu”
I still think the year 666 must be significant, it’s in the same time frame that islam began its evil plan.
Is INBBC’s political line on ISLAM at all different to that of Soros-CAP-Media Matters-CNN-Guardian-Al Jazeera and Iran’s ‘Press TV’?
“Iranian TV Loves Soros Report on Islam”
(by Cliff Kincaid)
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/09/09/kincaid-iranian-tv-loves-soros-report-on-islam/
It never ceases to amaze or anger me that Muslims are permitted, even encouraged by the BBC, to have dual loyalties yet Jews are condemned for concern about Israel’s welfare.
Unusual of you DV to have such a long post, but worth every word. We can debate who are fools and who are knaves and deserve hanging at the BBC, but one thing we can all agree on is they are enablers of Islamic terrorism and its propaganda jihad.
I think this bloke was one of the main speakers on radio 4 today on a program about how Muslims were the real victims of 9/11. I did like the part where women in Bradford were allowed to claim that actually it is britis non Muslims who refuse to integrate
A Muslim woman in Bradford had an opinion? I don’t think her husband would be too happy about that. This is 1600 after all.
And INBBC, so gullible to the kafir dream of ‘moderate Islam’ in Libya.
INBBC:
“Libya: NTC’s Jalil vows state based on ‘moderate Islam'”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14894264
For INBBC:
‘Kafir dream’ (2008)
http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/kafir-dreams
Mustafa Abdul Jalil, Chairman Of The National Transitionial Council (Rebels) In Benghazi
INBBC: promoting JALIL’s Islamic Libya.
Of course, INBBC has to include an Islam-promoting piece to supplement its euphoria for some bogus ‘moderate Islam’ (see above).
And who does INBBC get to assess the new/old Islamic Libya? A Westeren, non-Muslim sceptical commentator?
No, it is a rule at INBBC: for expertise on all matters Islam: defer to a Muslim.
So, that is what INBBC does in this case. And to which Muslim does it defer? To one Omar Ashour, of Exeter University, Middle East Graduate Studies, which has received considerable financial funding from Saudi Arabia, to assist in teaching the right sort of things about Islam.
See: “A Degree of Influence”, pages 103-109 for details
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/files/1238334247_1.pdf
INBBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14728565
In this report, jihadists become ex-jihadists in the blink of an eye.
And jihadists again?
KABUL.
INBBC doesn’t want this to be seen as the ISLAMIC JIHAD violent attack on the West which it is, so the phrase ‘Islamic jihad’ is routinely censored; instead, INBBC uses its usual euphemisms to put people off the truth -‘ insurgents’, ‘militants’ etc.
[Islamic jihad] “Afghan gunfight: Explosions and firing rock Kabul”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14897358
Islamic jihadists firing rockets at US embassy in Kabul
Coincidentally, the sub title of the article here (about beards and Islam) is ‘connecting the dots’:
Raymond Ibrahim: Why the Muslim Beard Bodes Trouble