You can’t do much about your reputation. A bad reputation can follow you like a shadow and place you at a considerable disadvantage in all your future endeavours.
Some movements, philosophies or ideologies are deemed so despicable that no affiliate or former member can ever dissociate themselves from the body’s loathsome reputation. But inexplicably, others with an equally ignominious record do it with ease.
Double standards exist. Some people can’t do a thing right, while others, apparently not for want of trying, just can’t put a foot wrong.
Take Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, representing the sunny-side of Islam. The commissioning editors of the BBC happily disregard all negative factors associated with the religion of peace, and give Shaykh Mogra a platform on radio 4 to preach to us every morning for a whole week, as though certain unmentionable issues had never raised their ugly heads. For instance Islam’s approach to women, to sex and to the non-believer; not to mention, literally, the antics of a certain publicity-seeking band of poppy-burning beardies, the Muslim Council of Britain’s duplicitous record, Islam’s inherent antisemitism, oh, and Islamic-inspired terrorism.
Ibriham Mogra can shayke off (sorry) all association with that nasty stuff and quote passages from the Koran as though butter wouldn’t melt in his beard. He evidently believes these unfortunate things are ‘nothing to do with me, guv.’
In stark contrast, certain other ideologies or movements are deemed ‘beyond the pale’. An individual associated with any of these despised bodies is automatically pushed into purgatory. Take the Nazi. Can there be a benign Nazi? At one end of the spectrum we have Goebbels and co., and at the milder end, the ‘gullible victim of propaganda’ and the ‘only following orders’ brand of Nazi. All are permanently regarded as personae non gratae, with the exception of one reformed Nazi who has made a convincing case by publicly denouncing his former incarnation and reinventing himself as the Pope. According to Wiki, Joseph Alois Ratzinger was “an unenthusiastic member” of the Hitler Youth all along, so that’s okay.
There’s little prospect of exoneration for Israel however. As far as the BBC is concerned Israel’s pariah status is set in stone. It is unremittingly portrayed as ‘beyond the pale’, and is seen by the BBC as indomitably fiendish, even though most of the evil-doing the BBC finds so unforgivable is a construct of their very own.
Organisations like the BNP can’t rehabilitate themselves. No matter how plausible he tries to be, Nick Griffin was caught on camera being racist and antisemitic, and his denials and ostensible changes of heart aren’t fooling anyone.
Similarly, Tommy Robinson has a lot of work to do on the EDL’s image before he’ll be able to distance himself from its reputation for thuggery and racism.
Incidentally, when the BBC set attack-dog Paxman onto ‘Tommy Robinson’, I doubt Paxo suspected he was in for a profound pasting. But that’s what he ended up with. The BBC was so confident that Robinson’s guilt-by-association was enough to crush him, that they didn’t bother to do any pre-interview research. In the event Paxo stabbed wildly and spuriously in all directions, and had to resort to making those faces. It probably wasn’t that particular humiliating fiasco of an interview that deterred the BBC from putting the good Shaykh up for a similar grilling before setting him up with a week’s worth of Prayers for the Day. But surely, if all things really were equal, they’d give Tommy a regular spot on the radio and send the Shaykh in for a couple of rounds with Paxo.
The BBC can brush aside the evil-doings of his religious compatriots, such as terrorism, wife beating, honour killing and gay-bashing, but can’t overlook alleged skinhead thuggery.
Every morning, for seven glorious days, Shayhk Mogra has been quoting some incomprehensible passages straight from the Koran for our edification.
On two occasions he assumed our fond familiarity with the Hajj, and an episode entitled “Kick Racism Out” contained the following:
“Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, “O people, indeed your Lord and Sustainer is One and your ancestor is one. All of you descend from Adam and Adam was made of earth. There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab nor for a non-Arab over an Arab; neither for a white person over a black person nor a black person over a white person except the superiority gained through righteousness. Indeed the noblest of you to God is the one who is most conscious of God.”
I wondered momentarily if the above-mentioned exception does subtly bestow superiority upon very ‘righteous’ Muslims, which by sleight of hand exempts me and the other kafir from being considered their equal. But I was all wrong, because he continued:
“Dear God, cleanse our hearts and give us the strength to be more righteous. Enable us to respect all human beings as equals and as members of Your family, amin.”
(‘Amin’ is Muslim for ‘Amen’)
Somehow Shaykh Mogra feels able to pick and choose which bits of the holy Koran he condones, and which bits he rejects. One of the latter is the death penalty for apostasy, which he says is outdated and old fashioned. But, would you adam an’ eve it, he’s sticking with the literal interpretation of the creation? “ All of you descend from Adam and Adam was made of earth.”
His Pollyanna version of the ROP doesn’t mention the Jihad. But he’s not your typical Islamic cleric. Hizb ut-Tahrir calls him a ‘government linked sellout’ and, on apostasy: “Even the kafir reporter knows more on Islam sharia then[sic] Mogra!”
I’m afraid today’s prayer really takes the biscuit. It’s called Caring for Women.
If the BBC can pretend that Islam’s record of caring for women bears any relation to this sermon, I’d like to know how.
The next passage has something of the literary style of Enid Blyton about it:
“He who supports three daughters or sisters by educating them and being merciful to them until they become self sufficient, God will make Paradise compulsory for him.” A man then asked, “What about two daughters or sisters, will the same apply to two?” Another asked, “What about one daughter or sister?” Muhammad said, “The same applies to one daughter or sister.”
(I don’t know how respectfully Noddy and Big Ears treated women, but they had a very unPC reputation with regard to golliwogs.)
He continues:
“He who has a daughter and looks after her and does not disgrace her, nor does he prefer his sons over her, God will admit him to Paradise.”
Disgrace her? How? Oh never mind. Next week’s Prayers for the Day are by Alison Twaddle.
Great post. Thanks Sue.
The prior question is – how dare the BBC give a Muslim – or any non-Christian – a whole week of Prayer for the Day ?
so so infuriating, but….hardly surprising
remember this bbc kneeslapper
“Ibrahim Mogra, is from the Muslim Council of Britain – described by the bbc programme as ‘an organisation seeking to promote a distinct Muslim identity in tune with British cultural norms and values’.
Yet this is the organisation with which the British government has twice broken off relations on account of its extremism. The first occasion was when it refused to take part in Britain’s Holocaust Remembrance Day ceremony. The second occasion was in response to the MCB’s deputy general secretary, Dr Daud Abdullah, signing the Istanbul Declaration, a public declaration of support for Hamas and call for violence against the British Royal Navy and Jewish communities.
The bbc film made no mention of this whatever. Instead it used the MCB man to attack Geert Wilders as a dangerous extremist.
bbc The world’s most dangerous broadcaster – Melanie Phillips
ie,
i dont want this shil, who couldn t “lie straight in bed” under the pretence of PRAYER????, proselytizing for islam on my radio at anytime…..period
The ROP wants the peace of the graveyard for itself, and the graves to be dug then filled by the rest of us.
The BBC are either the cowardly lion or the blustering wizard in Oz…they flip from one to the other depending on whether those that they talk to can physically hurt them or not.
Old white Jews…ha! Young dark bearded Muslims….scary and therefore lay out the rugs.
The BBC is its own faith system with enough temples filled with its priests and imams to concern Islam I`m sure.
Still they`re both doomed, but it might not be clear for a while yet-but Israel with its broken backed-idiot brother in the States will win.
The EU will shrivel and die as if we`d poured a little dead sea salt on it…Mystic Mug has spoken!
Thanks again Sue!
Islam Not BBC (INBBC) is politically committed to providing preferential treatment for Islam, and this comes from the D. G. Thompson (2008)
“The BBC will tackle Islam differently to Christianity, admits its Director General”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1077816/The-BBC-tackle-Islam-differently-Christianity-admits-Director-General.html#ixzz1eiseqWvo
INBBC allows no criticism of Islam; but INBBC freely criticises Christianity.
INBBC facilitates the propagandising of Sharia law, but denies criticism of this Islamic law’s imperative of violence and especially the subjugation of women.
For dhimmi INBBC: more on Shaykh Mogra:
Sharia courts in the U.K.: “these privatized legal processes were ignoring not only state law intervention and due process but providing little protection and safety for the women”
And, of course the Coalition government, which shows itself to be ignorant of the tenets and history of Islam is facilitating Islamic censorship in Britain by kow-towing to the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC)’s global campaign to ban all criticism of Islam.
There is a certain inevitability about the UK ‘political elite’s move in this direction to appease Islamic interests in Britain and globally.
In this particular case, it looks as though the UK government is setting up (or, more likely, being set up by) a committee of Muslims to ban criticism of Islam.
Central to all this is the unelected Muslim, Baroness Warsi, who was unnecessarily appointed as a UK government’s special representative to the global Conference of the Islamic Conference (OIC), which is trying to impose a global ban on the criticism of Islam.
“UK’s First Special Representative to the OIC”
http://islamicmonitor.blogspot.com/2010/06/uks-first-special-representative-to-oic.html
Warsi’s political role seems clear: to implement the OIC directive on the willing British government and on the ignored British vast majority still, non-Muslim people. But it’s coming, with UK government connivance, and Labour and INBBC in tow.
here is mogra, becoming nose growing world champion
laughably dis-associating islam from its mandated punishment for apostasy
http://youtu.be/IHG5Jdt6PAo
obviously a…ahem “believer” 😀 in that, “the old ones are the best”
every islamic whopper from the past decade turns up here.
oh & just look at, who s lapping it up…sheesh
Not a bad article Sue, except where you associate Robinson and the EDL with thuggery. I think if you read the non-~MSM news and ignore BBC propaganda, you’ll find that the police, islamicists and left have been thugs toward Robinson and the EDL – the only people trying to do something about the islamist menace (ranting right-wing bloggers having accomplished nothing).
Even though it’s tinged with ‘damned with faint praise’ I appreciate your comment, so thanks. *DONT_KNOW*
But I don’t think it is me who is associating Robinson with the thuggery. The article was about reputations, and the EDL’s reputation, deservedly or not, is undeniably associated with thuggery and nationalism-verging-on-racism, an obstacle it has to overcome before it can win wider acceptance.
Pro Israel activists, for example, are extremely wary of being associated with the EDL, who often use the Israeli flag, some say merely in order to ‘wind up the opposition.’ Even though there is a strong temptation to think in terms of “my enemy’s enemy.”
When I was writing the piece I tried not to sound particularly condemnatory or complimentary of the EDL – the jury’s out as far as I’m concerned – other than admiring ‘Tommy Robinson’s bravura performance on Newsnight.
So I don’t really see how you could have come away with the impression that it was *me* who making that association.
Nasser, Gadhaffi, Saddam…all were socialists first and Muslims only second.
Their notions of Third Way/scientific socialism were very much what the BBC would love to see happen in Syria(Socialist) and in Egypt.
These clots at the BBC may not know their recent history, but in all cases we have Sharia Islam waiting in the wings and able to look good on camera, biding their time until we get Iran Plus.
They know the useless idiots that run the western media, and how much they want the oil.
Israel therefore need bolstering with the fact that how it fares very much determines what will happen to the rest of us. The USA hopefully will ditch the likes of Obama and give us some leadership…and the post-political alternative to these decrepit parties that we choose to pay for will hopefully realise that Israel and the USA is the only axis we can spin freely with…the EU is building its own pyre, and we need not bother with it either…it will return to something worthwhile once it too loses its dandruff of political placemen and puppets.
A report for INBBC to censor?:
‘Telegraph’ –
“Christian worker loses her job after being ‘targeted’ by Islamic extremists”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8917675/Christian-worker-loses-her-job-after-being-targeted-by-Islamic-extremists.html
the supremacist racist fascist, aspects of the ideology AGAIN..
what is it going to take for the penny to drop, shameful
Nationally a bigger conern here, what are muslims doing as airport security scanners?
…its been proven time and time again, whether street sweepers, baggage handlers up to doctors or higher, the ideology clouds every judgement, they are incapable of independant evaluation away from it…..unbelievable…..that IS a big BIG security risk in itself
More Islam Not BBC (INBBC) preferential treatment for their Islamic chums as it censors this:
“Muslim medical students boycotting lectures on evolution… because it ‘clashes with the Koran'”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066795/Muslim-students-walking-lectures-Darwinism-clashes-Koran.html#ixzz1evpxSxJ9
Now if it were Christian students doing this, INBBC would pile in with its usual vitriol against Christianity.
Clearly, as such Muslims refuse to study evolution on a medical degree course (!), they should be expelled.
re – as previous post…………….ditto
Well, just for your further information on the crap the BBC spouts just look at this.
Now even the seaside is “too white” for the BBC.
http://bbc.in/rwTlKc or here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0174hrp/Thinking_Allowed_Race_and_the_Seaside_The_Brain/
Mr YENTOB, an overpaid director of BBC, happens to be of Iraqi Jewish origin.
I wonder whether, in his Radio 4 programmes tomorrow, 8 pm, he will emphasise the role of Islamic interests in reducing the population of the Jewish community of Baghdad from a third, to only seven.
“The Last Jews of Iraq”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017wyym
INBBC not interested:discrimination against British white people –
“White working class Britons ‘don’t get a fair deal compared with ethnic minorities'”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067081/White-working-class-Britons-dont-fair-deal-compared-ethnic-minorities.html#ixzz1f0YnS4x4
About time: BBC-NUJ’s ‘Panorama’s John WARE looks back and reports on Labour government’s PFI waste and profits for some. Where’s ‘Occupy’?
“JOHN WARE on the billion-pound ‘racket’ behind our schools and hospitals”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2066994/JOHN-WARE-billion-pound-racket-schools-hospitals.html#ixzz1f0bJwq38