OPEN THREAD


Well, the public sector may be closed but we are OPEN and awaiting your comments. Just to let you know that I am going to be away for a few days on holiday so I pass the torch to my fellow writers. I shall return…,..

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  1. As I See It says:

    News creation – BBC-PC style.  
     
    Yesterday morning the candidates for the BBC Sports Personality of the year were announced. (I know, who cares?).  
     
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_personality/15920702.stm  
     
    The Beeb quote Carl Doran (editor of the show) as saying ‘Its one of the strongest fields I have ever seen during my time on the show and the race itself is too close to call.’  
     
    Now I was getting ready to go out to work when I heard that arch-feminist Dame Nicky Campbell throw a theatrical minor on-air wobbly on the subject of there being no female nominees (go girl!).  
     
    There was the same process used as in previous years apparently and there have always been females listed. His colleages (male and female) seemed a little bemused at his faux outrage.  
     
    I come back from work in the evening and mysteriously the story seems to have taken off.  
     
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_personality/15936294.stm  
     
    ‘Some of Britain’s top sports stars have criticised the absence of women from the BBC Sports Personality of the Year shortlist’  
     
    Oh yeah? But we know what has happened here don’t we? The Beeboids broke the news when they phoned around and asked ‘how outraged are you about this?’  
     
    Of course the story is grist to the mill to their mates in the left-leaning press.  
     
    The Guardian picks it up and runs (like a girl?) with it.  
     
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/nov/29/women-sports-personality-year-2011?newsfeed=true  
     
    ‘The top 10 contenders for BBC sports personality of the Year are all male. It’s hardly surprising, given the sorry state of women’s sports coverage in the UK’  
     
    Notice how the Gruan moves the story on to one about the coverage of female sport – which suddenly has become deficient.  
     
    I guess since the Beeb have recently been edged out of Formula One there will be a bit left in the licence-payer kitty to dole out elsewhere.  
     
    Maybe one day in the Beeb plan for the world all sports people will tick all the boxes – like Casta Semenya.

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    • Jeff Waters says:

      Reposted from the other open thread as it was just about to close when I posted:  
       
      That expert on all matters sporting Harriet Harman has weighed into the debate, tweeting:    
         
      ‘Why no women on @bbcspoty top ten? Should be celebrating our great women athletes. BBC think again    
      bbcspoty
       
       
      Why not Rebecca Adlington, Hannah England, Jessica Ennis, Chrissie Wellington, Keri-Anne Payne or Shanaze Reade?    
       
       
      Nuts and Zoo on shortlist panel. Was the shortlist panel all men as well as the shortlist?’    
         
      —-    
       
       
      No doubt she will be taking this up with Mark Thompson at their next meeting, and subtly reminding him that, if Labour win the next election, they will be deciding how much money the BBC get…  
         
      Jeff

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      • Jeff Waters says:

        Just read that the BBC is going to review the procedure for SPOTY!
        Disgraceful!
        It’s been ticking along nicely for years, but because in 2011 no women have made the top 10, it’s probably going to be given a politically correct makeover!
        We can’t have merit trumping equality, can we?

        Jeff

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    • Martin says:

      Some dopey bird was also moaning about the lack of ‘wimmin’ on the short list (is that not sizeist to call it a short list by the way?).

      They fail to mention that a couple of women nearly got in but several top men also missed out. I want to know why Jenson Button isn’t in the list, he had a great season taking it to Red Bull, why is he not there.

      Then the same dopey bird on Radio 5 wanted ot know why lads mags got a vote and their airhead female mags don’t. Well it’s simple, the lads mags have a sports section, I’ve never seen a female mag that has a sports section have any of you?

      Also, the same dopey cow (Rachel Burden I think it was) was then moaning about the lack of ‘wimmins sport’ on TV.

      Well no Rachel you see if you look on SKY they have lots of womens sport, they have golf, tennis, netball, cricket, football, the lot. They cover the women’s stuff LIVE as well.

      Perhaps if the BBC stopped paying Dame Nikki £500K + a year they could afford some ladies sport on TV?

      The BBC always like to blame Sky for stealing ‘their sports’ yet Sky invest alot of money in minority sports, netball is hardly something to get massive viewing figures that will  make Sky a lot of money but they still promote it. What does the BBC offer?

      As for Hattie hatemen, she pipes up at this but why doesn’t she demand that more women serve in the front line in the army for example or that more women do the dirty dangerous jobs that women are often banned by law from doing (like working in mines)

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      • matthew rowe says:

        Great points Martin they should be dragged over hot things about  the Button- Giggs farce and Sky and ITV are so much better at sport then the bloody useless BBC  !
        Why wasn’t Guy Martin or Hutchinson up there [ soz big TT fan ] bloody beeble gits!

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        • ap-w says:

          Great to hear you’re a TT fan Matthew (I live within the course). I agree with you about Hutch, and am a big fan of Guy Martin and he is certainly one of the best personalities in sport but it would be hard to justify him given he still hasn’t won a TT race!

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          • matthew rowe says:

            True but I take the view it’s a personality thing not a best winner  as Giggs only got a premier league medal thingy and I think you get that just for turning up !!award so sod um  but Hutch should def have won it !

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    • Paddy says:

      The only decent female sports personality is the lass from the winter olympics that won on her tea tray, and thats because shes ‘fit’.

      If being a female sports star means you end up like Fatiman Whitbread then its no wonder young girls choose Dancing and modelling over competitive sports.

      MInd you my home womens footie team has some bonny girls in it. Its a pity most of them wear comfortable shoes.

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      • Martin says:

        Perhaps the BBC should get if its lardy arse and put some female sport on TV, I for one would like some ladies beach volleyball, which Sky do at the moment (and rather well)

        The BBC could easily buy up womens football or rugby and put it on TV, but they can’t be arsed, the arrogant pricks think THEY are entitled to first pick of any sport.

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        • Jeff Waters says:

          I for one would like some ladies beach volleyball’ – I bet you would!  <img src=”extra/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-wink.gif” title=”Wink” border=”0″ alt=”Wink”/>  
           
          The problem is that the demographic for such a program would probably be about 90% male, and it wouldn’t take too long for the likes of Hattie Harperson to kick off about how the BBC was objectifying women!  
           
          Jeff

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          • Reed says:

            It’s one of the very few times I have agreed with Germaine Greer (and hate to admit even that), when she said that only when women support female sports to the same degree that men support their versions will they receive the same amount of coverage. Fair point, although I guess there’s a catch 22 element in play.

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  2. deegee says:

    LAST COMMENT IN PREVIOUS OPEN THREAD  :-[

    Cognitive dissonance at the BBC?  
     

    Richard Coles confronts accusations that the West is attempting to force gay rights on Africa, Asia and the Middle East.  

    Most Western states are keen to spread gay equality around the globe.  

    But some local political and religious leaders often claim that homosexuality is a foreign import – leading to charges that the West is engaged in a new form of imperialism.  

    Looking to the past, Richard Coles attempts to sort out historical fact from political propaganda – exploring the degree to which modern gay identity is a Western construct which has no place beyond Europe and North America.  

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Maybe the BBC will finally start to be more honest about the homosexual culture among the Pashtuns.

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    • RCE says:

      It’s an important point.  The left (which includes the BBC, obviously) abhor the British Empire, yet see no problem in using superior western wealth and technology to force their cultural-relativist socialist values on the rest of the world.

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  3. deegee says:

    Britain’s Tehran fortress falls to rising Iranian ire

    Britain’s embassy in Tehran is one of the most forbidding buildings in Iran’s capital. The compound stands out on one of Tehran’s main avenues with its high walls, barriers and fortifications.

    1)  Clearly Britain should take a leaf out of Obama’s book and communicate with the surrounding community.  😉
    2) Not much of a fortress if it was so easy to breach.

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  4. cjhartnett says:

    Millions took to the streets today to protest against the savage cuts being imposed on the workers by the Tories.
    Babes in arms and little children took their turns to throw lotus leaves petals before Brave Dave Prentice and his passionate, ever so poor legion of heroes of the Soviets.
    Comrades Balls and Miliband(Edward) played football with the striking resurgents on the Green, and badges, pennants and bars of ethically-sourced chocolate weree exchanged.
    This is to be the news tonight…that all I saw here was some diversity officer strumming “Imagine” to himself near the local pub means nothing…millions were out and proud…comprendez wack?

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  5. Jeff Waters says:

    Is £40,000 really a liveable income for families in the UK? – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15197860

    Perhaps a BBC executive or Newsnight presenter wouldn’t get out of bed for 40 grand, but in my neck of the woods it’s not a bad income at all…

    Jeff

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  6. pounce_uk says:

    I work (without saying too much) on an army camp. Anyway as I am working on Sat and Sun I am taking today and tomorrow off. Unfortunately for me there is a job that needs doing and the only person who can sign the keys out for the job is me. So at 7am this morning I was in work as i drove in, there was one civilian outside the main gate protesting and he waved ‘hello’ as I drove in. At around 8 when I went to the guard room to sign out the keys for the back gate, there was around 10 people protesting at 9am when I returned to hand the keys in, they had all gone.

     

    Now here’s the crux, in the workshops everybody has turned up for work, the POL storeman was in, as was a large number of clerks in RHQ. A number of people took a sick day so as not to cross the picket line and garner the wrath of the unions. The civvies I asked on camp about why they were in work stated that there is nothing to prove by striking as the country is skint.

     

    A unison leaflet left in the guardroom reads that £11 billion of the budget goes on pensions, yet and a big yet nobody mentions that we give £10 billion away on foreign aid. Can anybody else see the obvious solution to all our problems.  

     

    Funny enough the bBC doesn’t mention any of that.

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    • Ben says:

      I agree that we should save the money wasted on foreign aid, but you’re not going to convince me we should spend it on better pensions for the so called “public sector” workers when there are already too many of them and they are already well enough paid.

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  7. james1070 says:

    The BBC for thr last 5yrs have been pumping out pro-Iranian propogands. Remember all those documentaries with John Simpson telling us how progressive the youth were?  
     
    Well it looks like the yoof generation is just as bad as their parents in 1979 with the storming of the Bristish Emabassy. How will the BBC explain that?

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    • George R says:

      Of course it can’t, as it has a basic misunderstanding of the nature of Islam.

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    • RCE says:

      Some Iranian youth.  I would be careful to distinguish between the people and the regime; Iranians are not like arabs and have a much richer and more civilized (ancient) history that has evolved into a very different culture.  Prior to ’79 the weren’t just westernized – they were part of the west.

      Sorry for the lecture!

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      • Henry says:

        This is correct. What happened in Tehran will simply be a bunch of thugs paid for (probably) by Ahmedinab’s political opponents. It’s probably internal Iranian politics. And unfortunately we are the “little Satan” – they seem to credit us with much more power than we have.

        The police stood by and watched, so either the Iranian Govt have gone all liberal on all public protest or (more likely) they are ‘allowing’ just this one 🙂 . 

        It’s also, of course, a kind of response to the sanctions and the West and Iran’s stand-off wrt nuclear weapons. I believe the thugs were paid for by government factions, not angry students who spontaneously rose up just because they independently believe the UK are Satan’s little brother 

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    • NotaSheep says:

      Israel’s fault ?

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  8. noggin says:

    post y/day.

     

    Yes, the Gov will have to really show, they mean business and send in the dynamic duo of Rumple Rifkind & William Vague,(donning his cape as we speak), along with his erm”bedwarmer”, (& obligatory mr teddy).

    To give a simpering speech, urging calm. He will have to write them a letter, he and Rumple Rifkind, will have to work out the best way to “take one fer the lads”

    …please sir may i have another

    That should do it ……… eh! Dave.

     

     

    Today he gives a speech, (WRITING to the EU, commending CALM & professionalism), closes Iranian Embassy giving Armii just the excuse to ramp up intransigence over weapon inspections, & grab a little more time

    ….yep looks like the plans worked

    something anything stronger. Willy,(…..sound of crickets…..) Willy

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  9. Manfred VR says:

    I just read this on another blog, and felt I had to ‘share’ this comment with you.

    http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/public-sector-perks/

    “Complete simpering wankfest on the BBC about the strikes, they might as well dub
    heroic music on it like the Soviets used to do with film of peasants scything fields, and that’s not me being idealogical, there I can’t even spell the word so how could I be accused of it?”

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  10. matthew rowe says:

    Bit off site topic but I think the BBC should do a horrible history on this little fact =
    ‘As the war progressed, the number of strikes sky-rocketed to reach a record 2,194 stoppages with 3,700,000 days lost in 1944 alone’ ??
    or this  one  =
    ‘Workers at the former Chrysler factory converted to make Halifax bomber tail fins were subject to Essential Works Orders banning all industrial action. In 1943 they challenged management policy of locking the gates at 8:30 for the morning by threatening to turn up en mass at 8:31. Management threatened to use the Order, but then capitulated.’
    The reason why it was Essential Works was that Halifax’s were crashing due to the tail assembly which needed to be changed A.S.A.P  crews were dying but they still picked a fight !!
    In this together arse !

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  11. Lewis Duckworth says:

    Never mind, according to a report this week our women have just won a first prize – most obese in Europe.

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    • cjhartnett says:

      Champions again….maybe there`s a reinforced podium to be built for the Olympics.
      Certainly we excel at all sports from pubs or where we sit on our arses(sailing, horseriding etc)…play to our strengths!
      Maybe one of our big-boned community of ladies might be a late entry for ” Sports Personlity of the Year”…and correct that sexist slant I believe is there! 

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  12. My Site (click to edit) says:

    Adopting a one degree of separation logic only a market rate could see as keeping him squeaky clean from The Editors blog, we are offered…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/11/bbc_online_homepage_launch.html

    Have to say, as a ‘it’s brill, you all agree, don’t you’ exercise, it seems to have gone down like a lead balloon pierced ny depeleted uranium rounds.

    So… they ‘got it about right’ then!

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  13. tiger says:

    Jeremy Vine/The Guardian got it right between the eyes today on his show;
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017kcs9 listen from 1:10
    He had Carol Sala [sp] on re phone hacking. He either didn’t know what she was going to say, hadn’t had her agenda vetted or is very brave in bucking the bbc standards.
    Carol absolutely went to town on the tv/radio media and the Guardian and their real agenda over NoW/news international. Really worth listening to. Doubt she will be invited back.

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    • Paddy says:

      Hasnt Jeremy Vine got the most smug expression possible on his site photo? If you stuck it on a new born baby or a puppy you’d still want to punch it.

      His brother is funny talented and normal yet Jezza is a smug selfrighteous beeboid dick sucking at the tit of the neverending licencefee.

      He epitomises everything that is wrong with the beeb. I would normally not wish ill on anyone but for him I’d make a exception.

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    • Mailman says:

      She did get stuck in to him didnt she…although I highly doubt it was a surprise to the geezer. She also could have banged on about many things, for instance the Guardian doing this in conjunction with the BBC for no other reason than their fear of a right leaning news organisation and the competition challenges their control of the airwaves.

      Mailman

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  14. George R says:

    The shameful London School of Economics (LSE), the Gaddafis, an INBBC report,  and no Chakrabarti?  
     
     
    Ms Chakrabarti, who, for some reason, got on the Leveson panel, has been on, (and still is on) the LSE board of governors throughout the time of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi at the LSE, without her resigning.  
     
    Not mentioned by INBBC, on which she appears regularly.  
     
    “LSE criticised for links with Gaddafi regime in Libya”  
     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-15966132

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    • George R says:

      “The Real Scandal of the LSE”

      by Peter Sandford (March, 2011)

      [Excerpt]:

      “The fact that among those members giving their assent to supping with the devil was Sharmi Chakrabarti, the director of Liberty and merciless scourge of those who compromise principles of justice, only adds to the air of unreality that surrounds the whole shameful episode. She has since spoken of her ‘bucketfuls’ of regret.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8362577/The-real-scandal-at-the-LSE.html

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      • Paddy says:

        And now we have the new BBC approved Libya light, all the biggotry and corruption but only half the middleclass guilt.

        Imagine if the UK banned islam. IMagine if the US banned Bhuddism, imagine if Germany banned Hindus. There woud be outrage.

        Yet when New Libya ( Get it , like labour only not as bad or destructive) ban Judaism and Jews not a whimper from the upholders of truth and justice at broadcasting house.

        Arab spring

        Arab Spriing my arse

        altogether now

        “Springtime for Libya not Germany,

        lalalala……. (With apologies to THE PRODUCERS)’

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      • NotaSheep says:

        ‘regret’ but no resignation; I thought she was a woman of principles…

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    • noggin says:

      chakrabarti, and the london school of extremists, yep, don t recall that on any of her QT appearances, standing up for all important, impeccable levels of honesty/integrity, maybe she ll take on Gadaffis cause, as one can assume the cheques been in the bank long enough.

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  15. Paddy says:

    Listening to the fragrant Vicky Derbyshires show today and she was interviewing people on the march in Birmingham.

    The first two were teachers then a college lecture and then a ‘Business environment promoter’

    Pardon my french but what the F is a Business environment promoter.

    No wonder the public sector is so parasitical its killing its host.

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  16. Jeff Waters says:

    Anyone see this evening’s One Show?

    I wonder how long Jeremy Clarkson will keep his job after saying the strikers should be shot!

    Someone at Broadcasting House must be kicking themselves for inviting Clarkson to appear today of all days!

    Jeff

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    • Martin says:

      Yes you can bet he’ll be in trouble for that. 

      However, you can bet that when Ken Livingturd is next on the BBC no one will ask him about calling for George Osborne to be hung.

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    • matthew rowe says:

      They have already issued a grovelling sorry to the tw*tter crowd of 3 complainers !!

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      • Jeff Waters says:

        Re: – ‘They have already issued a grovelling sorry to the tw*tter crowd of 3 complainers !!’ – Their complaint obviously wasn’t dealt with by the same guy who deals with my complaints!  LOL!

        About a week after making a complaint, I usually get a terse email telling me why I’m talking rubbish!

        Jeff

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Clarkson is a licensed buffoon.  All he has to do is make a half-hearted apology, then wave the Top Gear worldwide profit report in front of a few BBC mandarins, and they’ll all go back to trying to get tickets to the show for their relatives.

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  17. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC , praying for allah inside western schools and half the story.
    No right to pray for Muslim pupil at German school
    Germany’s top administrative court has ruled that a student does not have an automatic right to pray at school. The case was brought by an 18-year-old Muslim pupil at a Berlin school after he was told by his head teacher that prayer was not allowed on the school grounds… The German constitution guarantees freedom of religion and so a school pupil would generally be entitled to pray when at school, outside of lesson times. Judge Werner Neumann said that a school must decide if it is really necessary “to restrict religious freedom in order to keep the peace at the school”.
    So, if you used just the bBC for your news. The impression you would get is that the Germans are a right old bunch of Nazis when it comes to the religion of peace. I mean poor old Yunus being denied the right to pray inside a secular school. Which probably explains why the bBC article ends on a high for Allah. Now lets look at how Yahoo news reports the same story.
    German court rules Muslim pupil cannot pray at school
    BERLIN (Reuters) – A German court ruled on Wednesday that a Muslim student in Berlin cannot pray in the corridor of his high school even outside lesson time as it would disrupt the school. Germany’s Federal Administrative Court said in a statement its ruling applied only to this particular instance and took into account special circumstances at the school. German media reported there were pupils belonging to five different faiths and different branches of Islam, which had caused tension in the past. “The court has decided that…performing the prayer rite in the school corridor could exacerbate a threat which already exists to the peace of the school community,” the court said, adding the school was not able to organise a separate room for prayer.  “By (peace of the school community) we mean an environment which is free of conflict and… which allows lessons to take place in an orderly manner.” The court noted conflict had broken out among Muslim students themselves after accusations that the student’s prayer ritual was not in accordance with a particular teaching of the Koran.
    So actually instead of being a form of religious discrimination as promoted by the bBC, the reason why Yunus was banned from praying in the school corridor , was down to a turf war not only between 5 different religions, but also between the different branches of Islam. In fact as the Yahoo article mentions, fights had kicked off between the different branches of the Islamic faith.

    So instead of this being a racist story between Muslims and non-Muslims as promoted by the bBC, it is actually a story about defusing the infighting between different branches of Islam on School grounds. Something the bBC doesn’t even bother mentioning.

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    • Dez says:

      Pounce,

      Strange that you highlight this from the Reuters article:

      The court noted conflict had broken out among Muslim students themselves…”

      Yet at the same time, purposefully cut from your BBC quote the part which says:

      “He is a student at a grammar school in the mixed area of Wedding, which had experienced clashes between groups of Muslim students over prayer rituals.”

      But surely that means that when you said it’s: 

      “Something the bBC doesn’t even bother mentioning.”

      You knew you where lying? 😉

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      • matthew rowe says:

        Nice try but the he Reuters report highlight works
        The court noted conflict had broken out among Muslim students”
        The b-BBC doesn’t place the violece is the context of the court case  just as something incidental so pounce is right !

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        • RCE says:

          Absolutely.

          Dez really is as thick as mince.

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        • Dez says:

          “The court found that the school could ban prayer if the act caused conflict. The decision brings to an end a four-year legal battle by the pupil, Yunus Mitschele. He is a student at a grammar school in the mixed area of Wedding, which had experienced clashes between groups of Muslim students over prayer rituals.”

          The context of the court case is quite clear in the BBC article. You may disagree. But according to Pounce the conflict between Muslim students was; “Something the bBC doesn’t even bother mentioning.”

          Your loyalty to the B-BBC hive is quite touching; however in this case is is entirely misplaced 😉

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  18. cjhartnett says:

    Heard some unfunny pish on Radio 4s “6.30 comedy slot” tonight.
    Called “Heresy”-it was based on an idea by David Baddiel and starred Mark Steel.
    A dream team of comedy gold eh?…and we`ve been warned in effect to stay off the roads next week at the same time when Mark Steels new comedy vehicle gets a road test for six weeks until his Christmas shopping is paid for.
    You`ve got to laugh haven`t you?…but the BBC is no longer the place to go if you do feel the need!
    I prefer Laurie Taylors parody of a Liverpool Polytechnic lecturer who thinks that there is an issue about gays in the countryside and makes programmes about it. You couldn`t write it!…but our clapped out Laurie will say it anyway.
    Think he was saying today that grammar schools did no good for the kids of working class people…unlike Laurie, whose kids infest the Labour party and all manner of Beeb pedalos a la Kinnock.
    Oh…it`s NOT parody then?…

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  19. Henry says:

    The BBC apologised cravenly for something Jeremy Clarkson said about the strikers today. Clarkson is now a trending topic on Twitter (something of a left-wing echo chamber) 
     
    But at least one person tweeted disagreement with the BBC thought police, and I and 6 others re-tweeted it. Feel free to do the same 😉  

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  20. james1070 says:

    Maybe the BBC isn’t so bad after all. Jeremy Clarkson’s solution to the public sector strikes.

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    • Jeff Waters says:

      It looks like the episode in question isn’t going to be available on Iplayer.

      I wonder if that would be the case if Clarkson had instead suggested that the government ministers responsible for the austerity measures should be shot…

      Jeff

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      • Reed says:

        I love the ‘shocked to the core’ look on the presenters’ faces. Welcome to the ‘ghastly populist views of middle England’. Someone…quickly…decry ‘The Daily Mail’ – first resort of the predictably outraged leftie.

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        • Reed says:

          Desperate attempt by some Labour numbnuts to draw Cameron into the faux outrage… 
           
          “Clarkson should apologise. And the prime minister should make clear he disassociates himself from the distasteful remarks uttered by one of his friends.”  
           
          Prat.  
           
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813

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          • My Site (click to edit) says:

            Opportunistic prat… with correct tribal credentials, hence guaranteed a smooth passage vai the BBC professional whinge fundament.

            Clarkson is a professional shock jock who makes millions on ratings-drievn coverage… and has a DVD to sell to a ‘certian’ audience. Job done.

            charltonbrooker Charlie Brooker I hope the BBC don’t sack Jeremy Clarkson. Imagine how much he’d go on about it. It’d be like hurling wanker fuel into a prick engine.
            He won’t get sacked (though he’s  trying to be), as the BBC loves one thing more than any of its other PC/nanny pretensions, and that is money.
            Which is why all the hiring and firing, coverage or stealth editting, depending on saying the right or wrong thing, only happens below a certain pay grade.

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  21. matthew rowe says:

    Clarkson on the one show was a gem he has single handedly upset the BBC /strikers/morons on tw*tter also self confessed phone hacker liar and smear merchant Pier [what photo’s] Morgan and even serial adulterer and expenses thief fatty  Lard Pressalot both who have taken licence fee money now say Clarkson should be ashamed for doing the same ??

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    • Martin says:

      Thing is Piers Morgan tried to get British soldiers killed with his fake photos.

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      • matthew rowe says:

        God yes Martin  and the military love Clarkson so hate to think what they would do to Morgan if they got hold of him  have you seen what some of them can do with a spoon !

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  22. Martin says:

    Quite interesting to compare ITV’s coverage of Alistair Campbell’s spouting today to that of the BBC.

    ITV remind us of his dodgy dossier and his runs in’s with the press.

    The BBC concentrate on HIS accusations and his finger pointing of the owners of Tory supporting newspapers.

    Pathetic BBC, pathetic.

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    • matthew rowe says:

      Bet they also missed that he leaked his own statement to Watson and pals then tried to get guido done over it ! this inquiry is turning into a bloody disaster Church and grant have also been found out so god know what the rest of them is in for !

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    • RCE says:

      On BBC Breakfast at about half seven they had some guy on who started to get onto the sheer unadulterated bare-faced-lying hypocrisy of Alistair ‘Dodgy Dossier’ Campbell criticizing the press.

      What happened next?

      The quickest change of subject you’ve ever seen, of course!

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  23. crabtreecottage says:

    Want an example of ‘interesting’ BBC selective editing?

    Look at the Editors picks on this article about the strike today, and compare with the 20 highest rated comments.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15953806

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15953806

      One can see why it defaults to ‘Editors’ Picks’ first… and is already closed for any more.

      I was unaware of this thread until now and would have chipped in.

      Evidently not a ‘speaking by the public’, as opposed to for, the BBC seems keen on.

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  24. A. S. says:

    Paxman mentioned the MSM’s myopic view of the strikes (‘cycloptic view’ was his take), i.e. strikers striking and nothing else, and then proceded to give us just that: no shots of empty classrooms and struggling businesses, coping with absentee staff, now acting as child-minders.

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  25. David Preiser (USA) says:

    I’m bummed that Guido Fawkes won’t be appearing in front of Leveson after all.  Apparently he was cancelled because it was actually Campbell himself who leaked the document to a few people. What a shock.

    Will Ross Hawkins now have to apologize for accusing Guido on air of using dodgy sources?  I won’t hold my breath.  I guess the BBC will have to rewrite their script on this story now.  Will there be scolding on Today?  Huffing and puffing by the usual R5 suspects, etc?  Once again their emotions got the best of them and they blew it.  The Beeboids just couldn’t wait to attack, so sure of themselves they were of their prize.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      What I can’t understand is how, if Guido isn’t being asked to testify, there is an order restricting him from telling us what he was going to say.  Something doesn’t add up there.

      Unless he’s going to be asked to testify at a later date.  I have a feeling Guido has something up his sleeve.

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  26. Reed says:

    This is not solely a BBC issue, but relates to the MSM in general…

    There’s an interesting post (linked below) regarding the British media’s collusion in giving limited coverage to the public’s growing disapproval of mass immigration, in particular the NUJ’s guidelines designed to create a ring of silence around the issue and the groups that address it (EDL etc).

    There is a link in the post to these guidelines (on Race Reporting) that are very revealing. Anyone wondering why the very relevant issue of race in some stories is often conspicuous by it’s absence need wonder no more.

    http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=40959

    NUJ guidelines…

    http://www.mediawise.org.uk/www.mediawise.org.uk/display_page8a15.html?id=648

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    • tiger says:

      Just love the NUJ definition of immigrant; “most Blacks are born here and immigrants are White” Have I been asleep for 50 years or are the national racial makeup of the country incorrect? Where I live most people are white and have a local dialect. I must assume that NUJ policies only refer to Londonistan

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  27. My Site (click to edit) says:

    If true, this demands more than an explanation, especially from one genetically-impartial polls show mots trusted national slef-described treasure…

    The economic facts have now become wholly decoupled from the dominant media narrative. Most people believe – because most journalists tell them – that public spending is falling sharply, that debt is being repaid and that this process, while possibly necessary, is jeopardising short-term growth. Every one of those propositions is false.’
    Certainly ‘the cuts’ seems to have formed the basis of most ‘news’ management by the BBC. Why?

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  28. noggin says:

    re – iran…earlier post (pg.1)

    “post y/day.  
       
    Yes, the Gov will have to really show, they mean business and send in the dynamic duo of Rumple Rifkind & William Vague,(donning his cape as we speak), along with his erm”bedwarmer”, (& obligatory mr teddy).  
    To give a simpering speech, urging calm. He will have to write them a letter, he and Rumple Rifkind, will have to work out the best way to “take one fer the lads”  
    …please sir may i have another  
    That should do it ……… eh! Dave.  
       
       
    Today he gives a speech, (WRITING to the EU, commending CALM & professionalism), closes Iranian Embassy giving Armii just the excuse to ramp up intransigence over weapon inspections, & grab a little more time  
    ….yep looks like the plans worked  
    something anything stronger. Willy,(…..sound of crickets…..) Willy”

    hmmm! as the writing finger gets a little weary little willy, and er…..
    “calm” spreads out in hagueworld,
    the perfect example of m.steyns weak horse, gets his deserts.

    YNet News, November 30:
    yep!.. it is TA RA!
    “Europe is turning on the pressure on Iran , as the Islamic Republic strikes back”??????…. w.vague must be a greasy iranaphobe then  ðŸ˜€

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  29. Jeff Waters says:

    Jeremy Clarkson’s critics should be taken out and shot- http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100120977/jeremy-clarksons-critics-should-be-taken-out-and-shot/

    Spot on!  LOL!

    Jeff

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  30. My Site (click to edit) says:

    Mr. Miliband is lurching from his last PR-mandated cause to the next, and today it would appear to be wimmin.

    How long before he is wall-to-wall on the BBC churning out tired cliches to deferential support?

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  31. Beeboidal says:

    Radio 5Live, 4.06pm yesterday.

    Richard Bacon runs through the some the events of the day relating to the strikes, in the middle of which he mentions that David Cameron referred the the strikes as a ‘damp squib’. He then goes to reporters for a snapshot of events around the country. First up is Lesley Ashmall in London, and the first words out of Lesley’s mouth are

    “I’m not very far away from David Cameron. I wonder if he would have the guts to come and say it’s a damp squib here, with all these people standing on Victoria Embankment.”

    You may wonder that, Lesley. I’m wondering if Cameron will ever have the guts to skewer the impartial (ho ho) BBC.

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    • matthew rowe says:

      “I’m not very far away from David Cameron. I wonder if he would have the guts to come and say it’s a damp squib here, with all these people standing on Victoria Embankment.” 
      So is he implying a violent response ?? hmm where scrottie/dez and their ‘right wing violence ‘ chants ??

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  32. Ben says:

    On the Today programme this morning there was a piece about fraccing to extract shale oil/gas in the US, in Woodstock, and nearby in Pennslyvania.  There was clear local support for the process, from and investment and jobs perspective, but we were subjected to totally unsubstantiated hysteria about the dangers. Topped off by an organic farmer stating that he did not know how long he could carry on. LOL.

    Anyway, all of that was the usual BBC unbalanced presentation of the issues, but what irritated me was when they returned to the studio the piece was closed off by Naughtie with the phrase “Matt Wells and the fraccers of Pennsylvania.”

    Now I may be just imagining it, but I am pretty sure that that was Naughtie’s little joke. But I couldn’t help think at the time… from the fraccers of Pennsylvania, to the fraccers in the Today Programme studio!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006qj9z/console

    53mins 22 secs in.

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  33. Jeff Waters says:

    Fewer than 1% of complaints to the BBC get escalated.  
     
    I asked the BBC how I can get a complaint escalated, and they sent me this link:  
     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle-complaint/  
     
    SITE ADMINS – I suggest that this link is displayed prominently somewhere in the site.  
     
    Jeff

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    • Jeff Waters says:

      PS I suggest that every time you guys make a complaint, you pursue it to the point of escalation. 

      That will give the BBC Trust a choice.  They can either:

      A.  Have stats that show only a tiny proportion of escalated complaints were upheld.

      B.  Uphold some of our complaints.

      Either way, it’s a victory!  😉

      Let’s do it!  🙂

      Jeff

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  34. My Site (click to edit) says:

    BBCNewsnight BBC Newsnight On #Newsnight Francis Maude said pension changes are fairer bbc.in/tOaYgc, Mark Serwotka accused him of lies bbc.in/u99r8Y
    Sooooo, a pretty hefty accusation there.
    And does the objective national broadcast feel any need to do more than just pass it on?
    No.
    Too much to hope, as a licence fee extorted unique funder that, in such cases, the truth gets uncovered as opposed to shunting a fixed agenda still further down the public’s throats?
    Not sure it is the BBCs job to be union bosses PR propaganda machines.

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  35. Jeff Waters says:

    Unison wants Jeremy Clarkson sacked over strike comments – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813

    ‘Unison said it was considering reporting the comments to the police.’

    I imagine the police are already aware of what was said by now, and AFAIK it isn’t a criminal offence in this country to express an opinion (with a few exceptions)…

    Jeff

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    • Jeff Waters says:

      We’re also told that:

      Mr Clarkson’s comments sparked hundreds of comments on Twitter.
      Among them was author Tony Parsons, who wrote: “Jeremy Clarkson has misjudged the moment. Criticising striking public sector workers today is like sieg-heiling at Last Night of the Proms.”

      —–

      So all of the Twitter comments must have been negative, presumably, or the BBC would have provided some balance…

      Jeff

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  36. George R says:

    Islam Not BBC (INBBC) is still politically weak on the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Given that INBBC is in the broadcasting business, one might think that it would take up the issue of closing down Ahmadinejad’s ‘PRESS TV’s anti-Britain, anti-West operation from its Ealing studios in west London, which puts out its political vitriol against us on the Sky satellite, 24/7.

    But, no INBBC doesn’t.

    ‘The Times ]£] does that today, ‘Opinion’ , page 34:

    Title:

    “Press TV is mere propaganda fore Iran. It must close.”

    (by Houriya Ahmed).

    [Extract]:

    “Free speech laws should not extend to hosting the propaganda service of a belligerent government. As long as Press TV is funded by the current Iranian regime, the closure of its London operation is a necessity.”

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  37. Roland Deschain says:

    Mr Black’s latest pile of poo doesn’t seem to have totally convinced his audience.  No wonder he retreats to Twitter so often.  It must be truly heartbreaking when people used to worship the ground he walked on.

    My favourite:
    44.
    Smiffie
    2 Hours ago

    Richard, you must be exhausted after all that sustainable travelling, must have taken ages.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      All things considered, there was/is a certain irony to my going to check and being greeted with:
      Sorry, there has been a problem displaying comments, we are working to fix this.
      I am sure they are.

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  38. Sres says:

    I’d just like to say the new portal for the BBC is hideous, I can’t believe people where paid to devise a site that is counter intuitive…

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  39. Jeff Waters says:

    We hope you’ll not need to complain frequently, or about minor matters and issues to which the BBC has responded publicly. It means we cannot respond as promptly to other complaints, and your licence fee is used for replying to relatively unimportant points.’

    From http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle-complaint/

    Isn’t it great to know that feedback is so highly valued?

    Jeff

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  40. David Preiser (USA) says:

    In Los Angeles, the Occupiers – darlings of the BBC – have been cleared out at last.  The BBC report is totally sympathetic, full of righteous quotes from Occupiers and bland paraphrases of statements from the authorities.

    All the unnamed Beeboid who wrote the piece can say about what’s left behind is this:

    But by Wednesday morning much of the camp was deserted, with tents strewn over the grass.

    Here’s what the BBC doesn’t want you to know about their little darlings:

    Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city

    Sanitation officials said Wednesday that they expect to haul away 30 tons of debris from the Occupy L.A. encampment –- everything from clothing to heaps of garbage to oddball curiosities left behind by the protesters who lived at the City Hall tent city for two months.

    Andrea Alarcon, president of the city Public Works board, said workers already have removed 25 tons of belongings from the City Hall park, all of it heading straight to a landfill.

    Sanitation crews also have vacuumed up about 3,000 gallons of water that had washed into a catch basin in recent days and are testing it for hazardous materials, she said.

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  41. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Something else the BBC doesn’t want you to know about their beloved Occupiers.  The President was in NYC yesterday to raise money from extremely rich white people and Jews for His re-election campaign.  Needless to say half the city ground to a standstill because of all the security and traffic blockages.

    The Occupiers – darlings of the BBC – weren’t pleased. They’ve finally figured out that the President is not their friend (even though He’s stated His support for them), and marched to the Sheraton in midtown to protest.

    They held up signs saying, “Obama is a corporate puppet,” and “War crimes must be stopped, no matter who does them,” read another, beside head shots of President George W. Bush and President Obama.  Others are calling Him a sell-out.

    For some unknown reason, the BBC is refusing to report this.  Once again they censor all news which doesn’t fit the Narrative.

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    • John Anderson says:

      Nor will the BBC report that the security for Obama’s fund-raising trip (on the taxpayers’ dime)  blocked off much of NYC,  preventing thousands of people from getting to the annual light-up of the Norwegian Christmas tree.

      Nor Donald Trump’s acid quote – “Quit with all the fundraising Mr President,  do some governing – you have been making a lousy job of it”

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  42. George R says:

    NIGERIA.

    INBBC’s long-standing dismissal of the Islamic jihad and Sharia law advances in Nigeria from the north as merely ‘ sectarianism’, are refuted by this:

    “US Congress warns of Nigeria’s Boko Haram”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15981656

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  43. Jeff Waters says:

    Clarkson forced to eat humble pie – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15993549

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Love the fact thazt there is a po-faced ‘anaylsis’ box included.

      Just when I thought they could not come out of this any worse, hearing Unison had issued a statement that ‘it had accepted the apology’ revealed a level of pomposity that beggared belief.

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  44. noggin says:

    On Clarkson, they just wanted faux controversy, from someone who would shout “arse” or actually anything to get media coverage, bit like  

    a grumpy old uncle at a wedding.  

       

       

    BUT a VERY interesting, conversation ensued today  

    5live – S Fogarty  

    1Hr 6 On the offence, or not, of his remarks  

       

    An illuminating expose of the el beeb mindset,  

    on comes a media lawyer to clarify the issue, Fogarty, mentions comparisons of (wait for it)…a statement that Jews, should be pulled in front of their families and shot, or maybe blacks, or women…  

    yep! ”it would be just a figure of speech”?…“their was no deluge of calls”,(actually was over 4000?)…just freedom of speech.  

    hmmm on jews sheesh…harsh……and no mention of the “M” word either  

    oh well  

       

    the link is here  

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b017mwqy/  

       

    BUT THEN just check out Fogarty in a second segment from 1hr 36 with  

    R Bacon,(not famed for his sensitivity 😀 )  

       

    “but if it was a PROTECTED group, a RACIAL group like MUSLIMS, or even the disabled” it would be different??? then there are laws to be used on equality????  

       

    looks like the el beeb law makers are re interpreting what race is now  

    nice to hear from the horses mouth,(presenters) how they protect them though.

     

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      According to Labour, ‘Proposed cuts at the BBC will be ‘deeply damaging’ to the quality of the service’, so what has been deeply damaging the quality of service before the cuts?
      Naturally Labour wouldn’t make that observation.

      The BBC should be cut out altogether.

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    • Jeff Waters says:

      The BBC are supposed to be a creative organisation.

      So they should harness that creativity to produce broadcasting on a much smaller budget.

      You don’t need gimmiky special effects and ‘talent’ on million quid salaries to wow people.  What you need are dramas with great plots (which don’t act as propaganda for Guardian values), and unbiased news coverage.

      Surely you don’t really need over 20,000 staff to run a handful of TV channels and radio stations, and a news website…

      Jeff

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  45. noggin says:

    “wonderful” Egyptian arab spring update.

    Thousands of Muslims Attack Christians in Egypt,
    2 Killed, Homes and Stores Torched,”
    Assyrian International News Agency

    cant seem to find it on el beeb strange that?

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  46. Martin says:

    Yet more lefty climate change bollocks on the BBC with Shuckman this time. So according to this tool it’s been the driest autumn ever. Really?, what everywhere?

    All I know is this summer it was shit down here in the south east and it’s pissed it down most of November (my garden is soaked).

    The BBC really must be wankers if they think climate change can cause a major weather difference between a couple of counties.

    The real reason there is a lack of water is we’ve added 10 million to the population without investing in any additional reservoir building so no wonder most of them are nearly empty.

    The ‘flooding’ is not to do with climate change either, but the building of thousands of houses on flood land, the failure to upgrade old Victorian drains and the Environment Agency neglecting drains, ditches and rivers.

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    • dave s says:

      I was in the Elan valley on Monday. Birmingham’s reservoirs full and overflowing. Normal for the time of year.

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  47. George R says:

    Also, this is apparently necessary for INBBC to censor:  
     
    “3,500 girls are at risk of mutilation in the capital ” 
     
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24014977-3500-girls-are-at-risk-of-mutilation-in-the-capital.do
     
     
    Another ongoing emotional, cultural and financial cost to British people of mass immigration, and the ‘multculturalism’ it entails.

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    • Span Ows says:

      “The report’s authors said girls from families originating from parts of Africa, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Pakistan could be at risk…”

      Oh, those poor Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Toaist etc girls in those countries…oh hang on…it’s not them is it….

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  48. noggin says:

    bbc
    Should animals be stunned before slaughter?

    Knives out
    Do religions have a right to kill conscious animals?

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  49. George R says:

    IRAN.

    Is INBBC censoring this significant report?:-

    “Shocker: Iran releases 11 detained in invasion of British embassy, representative of supreme leader praises attack”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/shocker-iran-releases-11-detained-in-invasion-of-british-embassy-representative-of-supreme-leader-pr.html

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