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  1. John Anderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Most nights I glance at the Sky website to see their page showing all the next day’s newspaper front pages.  Tonight I see that the Indy, the Guardian,  the Times,  The Mail and the Sun carry on their front page the news that it may not have been the NOTW that deleted messages on Milly Dowler’s mobile phone.  It may also be on other front pages but I could not see any headlines.  But at least half the UK press are treating this as a front-page story.

    The BBC has made HUGE news earlier on about NOTW alleged sins.  Will they give equal prominence to this new twist when the Today programme reviews the day’s papers ?   Will bears seek out a proper toilet ?  Will the Pope go to a Baptist chapel next Sunday ?

    Bears crap in the woods.  The BBC craps over its audience.

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    • John Anderson says:
      December 13, 2011 at 12:25 am

      ……..and why on the huge BBC website do they not have an equivalent page showing all the day’s Fleet Street headlines – so the audience can see for itself what the papers are ACTUALLY saying,  what the real headlines are ?   Or can see,  for example,  that the BBC has picked up some inside-page Guardian story to lead with,  while ignoring stories that are headlined on several UK front pages ?

      Sky shows ALL the front pages.  The Today programme – and Newsnight – pick and choose what to highlight,  and what to suppress.

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:
        December 13, 2011 at 8:23 am

        ‘…pick and choose what to highlight,  and what to suppress’

        From guest selection to content, what goes in, and what gets left out, of BBC ‘reporting’ and ‘interviews’ is a standing joke. And national disgrace.

        Treasure? Well, if it means an ancient hoard of trinkets of questionable value that has so long been buried by the pirates that controlled it, it is only a rumour, then possibly so.

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    • Craig says:
      December 13, 2011 at 7:20 am

      The Daily Telegraph Online made this one of its main stories last night and still has No evidence Milly Dowler’s voicemails deleted by NOTW as the seventh most important story on its homepage.

      The BBC News website had an article on its homepage for a while last night with the deeply ambiguous headline Questions over Dowler voicemails.

      This morning, that story has vanished from their homepage, isn’t even on their UK page and is now to be found buried away at 10th place on their England page, still with that same dull, clear-as-mud headline. 

      If it had been harmful to the Murdochs, it would have (a) had a far less vague headline and (b) would have stayed on the homepage for a few days. 

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:
        December 13, 2011 at 8:30 am

        ‘Questions’ at the BBC, seem to have more variations than the Eskimos have words for snow.

        If there is nothing but rumour or, worse, they simply want to initiate some that are harmful to entities they seek to damage, the top of the hour broadcasts, Editor-intoned main stories and headlines scream highlight specfic, taregtted ‘Questions are being asked’ though only with a ‘sources are saying’ attempt at justification buried in copy.

        When there are massive, relevant, pervasive, public-interest questions, if it appears at all it will be as vague as possible before vansihing, giving only cherry vultures that are assigned to such as here a morsel to cite when the practice is questioned.

        Helen, luv, why does the BBC think folk don’t notice stuff because you choose to bury it. The internet is free, and even £4B will struggle to overcome its power.

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  2. George R says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:37 am

    And what of BBC-EU’s dozy, isolated ‘leader’, CLEGG?:

    “Mr Clegg had done a Greta Garbo… I vant to be alone!”

    By Quentin Letts

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073313/Nick-Clegg-Greta-Garbo—I-vant-alone.html#ixzz1gN1AWgRW

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  3. George R says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:47 am

    A politically incorrect history for BBC-NUJ-Labour-Lib Dems-EU:

    “A brief history of British isolation”

    (by Adrian Moss)

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/727/a_brief_history_of_british_isolation

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  4. John Anderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 5:24 am

    For anyone who has not seen it – Paddy posted at long and glorious rant against the BBC at the foot of page 4 of this thread (it may slip to the top of page 5).  Post of the month ?

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  5. John Anderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 5:33 am

    By a very large majority,  most Americans think Big Government is the worst threat to the US – compared with Big Business and the Unions.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/151490/Fear-Big-Government-Near-Record-Level.aspx

    I thought the BBC told us that Tea Party sentiments are a wierd, racist oddity ?   Surely BBC staff in the US cannot be totally detached  from US public opinion ?  Or – “isolated” ?  

    This would be so strange – the BBC is so much in tune with opinion here in the UK – ask Helen Boaden.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 8:35 am

      ‘ask Helen Boaden’

      Many more should.

      Other media. Politicians. 25M licence fee payers.

      She’s popped out of the bunker here…

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/12/the_challenge_of_reporting.html

      Not sure she’s out of broadcast only mode, mind.

      This woman gets paid a lot to run the BBC ‘news’ operation, and is on record as being happy to have an email to nowhere for complaints.

      She needs calling to account.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        December 13, 2011 at 3:03 pm

        The moderators sure are allowing a bunch of highly critical comments, though.  I wonder if Boaden even reads them?

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        • My Site (click to edit) says:
          December 13, 2011 at 3:35 pm

          ‘The moderators sure are allowing a bunch of highly critical comments, though.  I wonder if Boaden even reads them?’

          You arre correct in your first statement.

          As to your question, as this is the lady proudly bragging about her email to oblivion for anything that harhses here mellow, I’d say not.

          I’d say she and the fellow minxes at the top (plus the women) might need to start stashing their gold in Swiss bank vaults.

          I sensed a watershed over the EU reporting, but it really is buidling up a head of steam.

          Commenst are soaring across the BBC blogosphere, and on threads I frequent the ‘regulars’, who have erred on benign, are up in arms…vocally so.

          Newsnight’s threads are now a slaughterhouse of fondly held BBC complacency, as tired cliches are being filleted.

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  6. noggin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 9:05 am

    “Canada bans veils at citizenship oath ceremony,” from BBC News

    of course, el beeb wants to distance us, as far away as possible from that so …

    highlighted 😀
    Veil ban: The story from the UK

    Canadas late to the party, but making up for lost time

    HAVING to ISSUE? a ban?
    don t like it … theres the next plane, don t let the
    door hit you on the way out.

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  7. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 9:58 am

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/8951248/Saudi-Arabia-executes-woman-convicted-of-sorcery.html

    The BBC has reported this too, but perhaos with less heft than it accords some other world news of rights-based heft.

    Maybe worried that the likes of Wayne may get in trouble with the locals?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/witchcraft_90056

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  8. noggin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Jerusalem: The Making of a Holy Ci… :  

    invasion invasion invasion … hmmm islam by any chance?
    makes you wonder how the el beeb re writers will pan this out 😀

    you can assume this, won t make an appearence

    “Israel closure of al-Aqsa mosque ramp ‘a declaration of war,'” from the Telegraph  😀

    “But Muslim leaders fear its demolition could destabilise the mosque compound and accuse Israel of failing to coordinate its renovation with Waqf, which oversees Islamic heritage sites….” 
    par for the course … this particular “Islamic heritage site” is in reality … a Jewish heritage site …  ;-D

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  9. George R says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:53 am

    BBC-EU, under instructions from PATTEN (?), gives full page of one-sided political propaganda for EU’s  BARROSO, and more anti-Tory, anti-British nationalism bias.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16156183

    Farage on Barroso, etc:



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  10. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:56 am

    journalismnews Journalism.co.uk Photos from the last press day of the BBC’s staff paper, which moves online only after 75 years bbc.co.uk/ariel/16141920
    Often to find that online link now:) Might be a worthy bookmark.

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  11. Jeff Waters says:
    December 13, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Nice speech by Nigel Farage (which you probably won’t see on the BBC!):

    Jeff

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  12. Bupendra Bhakta says:
    December 13, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Balance BBC style.

    Labour-loving fag-hag Mariella Frostrup interviewing Labour-loving… well… just… hag really, Jo Brand on Radio Envy-of-the-World-Worth-The-License-Fee-Alone.  The chat was about ‘humorous’ books and they were talking about Adrian Mole books (written by a third Labour-loving hag).

    ‘I’d like to give this to a few Tories to read… it’s an easier way to get the message across than Tony Benn shouting in their ear for twenty minutes’, said Big Jo.

    Not sure I need to be cured.  Last year I inflicted on myself about 1600 pages of ‘message’ in the form of Tony Benn’s Diaries without ever seeing the light, so I doubt Sue Townsend’s lightweight dross would have much effect on me.  Still it’s nice to know that the BBC is thinking of us.

    Btw any programmes on Radio Bour where a right-wing journo gets to  interview his right-wing chums?

    Just in the interests of, you know, balance

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:
      December 13, 2011 at 12:04 pm

      Edit: Jo Brand was followed on the programme by Roy Hattersley – all ex-Tories must have been busy or never read funny books.

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  13. Jeff Waters says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    I see the EU are saying that the City are going to be regulated whether we like it or not:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8952143/City-not-shielded-by-Camerons-veto-EU-insists.html

    Not much mention of this on the BBC news website for some reason…

    Jeff

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  14. Daniel Clucas says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    BBC news are busy ladeling caveats onto the decent inflation figures. “Good news but here’s Hugh Pym to tell us we are all still going to hell…”
    “And now a spokesman from the CAB to tell us loads of people still can’t make ends meet”
    etc etc

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  15. deegee says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    The BBC didn’t pick up as many Dishonest Reporting awards as B-BBC followers might have expected. Only the Eyes Wide Shut award for failing to report the slaughter of the Fogel family. It was a very busy weekend.

    Media twin, the Guardian did however land the (un)coveted Dishonest Reporting 2011 prize. There were so many reasons a separate page had to be constructed listing them all. A Year of Dishonest Reporting — Why The Guardian Won

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  16. james1070 says:
    December 13, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    BBC using misleading lanuguage. On the World Service today I heard a report about Children being found chained and beaten at a seminary. Now the word seminary is  Christian  coming from the Latin seminarium meaning seed bed. It is essentially a divinity school .

    So why does the BBC use this word to decribe the Madrasa where these children were found chained. Would the BBC describe a mosque as a synagogue?

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  17. noggin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    i posted earlier  from time magazine …  
     
    now a latest  update   
     
    Human Events  “Obama’s Anti-Terror Plan Protects the Threat’s Identity, from Author Robert Spencer

    “Anti-Islamic Hyperventilation….,”  Time Magazine,

    “Lawmakers Blast Administration For Calling Fort Hood Massacre ‘Workplace Violence,'” FoxNews.com

    “A rose by any other name”  
       
    “Anti-Islamic Hyperventilation”  
    Time Magazine, Dec 8:  
    Exchange from hearing, Wed.  
    between Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., and  
    Paul Stockton, Assistant Defense Secretary for Homeland Defense:  
    Terrorist threat/Hasan/Ft Hood massacre  
       
    REPRESENTATIVE DANIEL LUNGREN (R-CA): Secretary Stockton, are we at war with violent Islamist extremism?  
    MR. STOCKTON: No, sir. We are at war with al-Qaida, its affiliates –  
    REP. LUNGREN: OK, I understand that. My question is, is violent Islamist extremism at war with us?  
    MR. STOCKTON: No, sir. We are being attacked by al-Qaida and its allies.  
    REP. LUNGREN: Is al-Qaida — can it be described as being an exponent of violent Islamist extremism?  
    MR. STOCKTON: They — al-Qaida are murderers with an ideological agenda –  
    REP. LUNGREN: No, I — that’s not my question. That wasn’t my question. My question was, is al-Qaida acting out violent Islamist extremism?  
    MR. STOCKTON: Al-Qaida is a violent organization dedicated to overthrowing the values that we intend to advance –  
    REP. LUNGREN: So is it yes or no?  
    MR. STOCKTON: Can I hear the question again? I’ll make it as clear as I can. We are not at war with Islam. And it is not –  
    REP. LUNGREN: I didn’t ask that — I did not ask that, sir. I asked whether we’re at war with violent Islamist extremism. That’s my question.  
    MR. STOCKTON: No, we’re at war with al-Qaida and its affiliates.  
    REP. LUNGREN: Well, al-Qaida — how does al-Qaida define itself? Are they dedicated to violent Islamist extremism?  
    MR. STOCKTON: Al-Qaida would love to convince Muslims around the world that the United States is at war with Islam.  
    REP. LUNGREN: I didn’t say that.  
    MR. STOCKTON: That’s a prime propaganda tool.  
    REP. LUNGREN: Sir –  
    MR. STOCKTON: And I’m not going to aid and abet that effort to advance their propaganda goal.  
    REP. LUNGREN: No, no, my question is, is there a difference between Islam and violent Islamist extremism?  
    MR. STOCKTON: Sir, with great respect, I don’t believe it’s helpful to frame our adversary as Islamic with any set of qualifiers that we might add, because we are not at war with Islam.  

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  18. joseph sanderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Within the last hour a suicide hand grenade attack on innocent shoppers in Liege has happened, you will not be surprised to hear that the attackers were of Pakistan origin.

    The reason for the attack according to Belgian media was the jailing of another Pakistani with Belgium citizenship for his horrific ‘honour murder’ of his own child.

    I bet the BBC don’t mention any of these facts when they get around to reporting this attack.

    Will give further update when the Belgium / Dutch media provide more details.

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  19. As I See It says:
    December 13, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Read the BBC news and you may conclude that we should be wary of terrorist messages eminating from WH Smith and Waterstones

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16149299

    The first word in this report is Bookseller

    The 175th word (a quick count by me) is Muslims

    Now tell me that is just a random happenstance.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm

      ‘tell me that is just a random happenstance’

      Given today’s news so far, one presumes the usual cherry vultures queuing up to oblige may be pulling a Cleggsence.. um.. to avoid ‘clouding issues’.

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      • noggin says:
        December 13, 2011 at 6:33 pm

        highlighted with photo
        “Bookshop: Included adapted versions of”  ahem “well-known texts”?

        would the words quran or jihad pop up in those anywhere …
        just a thought, hope the police don t chuck them in the incinerator …. there would be … yawn!  yawn!
        worldwide condemnation. 😀

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  20. joseph sanderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Further to my previous post:

    Witnesses report that a group of men carried out the attack. One of those involved was killed.
    However, the Francophone public service broadcaster RTBF reports that a further two or three assailants are still on the run in the city.

    The Medical Disaster Action Plan has been put into force and the police have sealed off the city centre.

    Two people have been killed and a least fifteen people injured in an armed attack in the heart of the Walloon city on Liège on Tuesday lunchtime. Thunder Flashes were thrown and shots fired at group of people that were waiting at a bus shelter on the busy Place Saint-Lambert.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:47 pm

      I just read in Le Soir that it was a lone gunman who was recently busted for having 2800 pot plants and ton of weapons and ammo. Or at least that was the attacker who killed himself.  A resident of Liège, Nordine Amrani.  An Arabic (Moroccan?) surname, I believe.

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  21. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Just had lunch, rather spoiled by The Jabba the Hutt tribute bland that is the Scottish First Minsiter being interviewed by SKY.

    As this tribal pea-brain’s only mantra was that Mr. Cameron was just responding to knives in the back from Boris, one can be sure such awesome political insight will be across the BBC like a nasty rash.

    At least Adam Boulton pointed out the level of public support, but oor Allie swatted such stuff away as irrelevant. 

    One presumes that, when the polls are to his advantage, he will be waving them around like Wallace’s tushie.

    In checking back, I found this snippet…

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112573/trivia

    ‘The film was criticized for completely ignoring the reason why England had invaded Scotland (because the Scots were allied with France and Norway in a war against England).’

    Ain’t history, and selective memories, plus the power of the edit suite… fun?

    When it comes to compeltely ignoring stuff to suit the narrative, some folk are clearly in a new league.

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    • Martin says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:16 pm

      If Jocko Toad of Toad Hall hates it so much why doesn’t he take Scotland and F**k off once and for all?

      Bye bye (waves hand at Scotland beofre giving a two fingered salute)

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  22. joseph sanderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    The BBC fails to mention anything about the scum who carried out this attack, the Belgium and Dutch media have already identified the reason for the attacks.

    It is also being reported that the Belgium bomb squad have defused three explosive devices in the vicinity of the court-room.

    Liege is home to a very large Muslim population and is known for its racial tensions.

    The two attacks are reported by local media to have been carried out around noon at the central Saint-Lambert square.

    Between 2 and 4 attackers have thrown hand grenades in the building of the local court and at a bus stop, with people also shooting from the rooftop of a bakery in the area.

    According to reports, one of the two persons killed is one of the attackers, after a shootout with police.

    Police have shut down the area of the Saint-Lambert square, with shooting continuing to be heard into the early afternoon, report Belga and RTL

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  23. Martin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    I noticed this morning that the BBC are still banging away about the Euro. Now some foreign halfwit had made some sort of threat to the UK and the BBC are reporting it as if it’s the end of the world when in fact it’s just another European politician with no penis who would run away at the sight of his own shadow.

    Can you imagine if it had been the one eyed queen from Fife instead of Cameron? The BBC would have been talking about “tough Brown” and how “Gordon Brown after saving the world is now saving the UK”

    The narrative from the BBC would be totally different.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:52 pm

      When France gets their credit rating cut – which should happen any time now – then we’ll see the Beeboid wailing and gnashing of teeth get even worse. They’ll probably blame Cameron for France’s economy, even though they’ve been cheating and breaking the rules for years.

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  24. joseph sanderson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    The injured is now reported by Liege police as 57 people, the majority with gun shot wounds the remainder due to the hand grenades.

    All ambulances available from Maastricht hospital have also been sent to Liege, my local TV station is reporting that one of the attackers has been named as Nordine Amrani who just happens to be Muslim.

    I would refer everyone to my orignal post in which I mention the link between the shootings / grenade attacks and the jailing of a Pakistani man for a honour killing.

    Still waiting for the BBC to provide any specific information.

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    • james1070 says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm

      What are the odds that the BBC will use the word ‘Asian’ to decribe the attackers?

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    • As I See It says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:43 pm

      Breaking news from Belgium, what breaking news? BBC News 24 are more interested in bringing us hour after hour of Leveson.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:53 pm

      He was recently busted for having 2800 pot plants and a bunch of weapons. Not necessarily a jihadi act going on here.

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      • james1070 says:
        December 13, 2011 at 3:51 pm

        Maybe a Hashashin?

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        • Daniel Clucas says:
          December 13, 2011 at 4:19 pm

          sunny_hundal sunny hundal Did the Belgian far-right gunman publish a manifesto of some sort, like Breivik, blaming immigration for his killing spree? Anyone know?
          Give me strength, where’s that come from?

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:
            December 13, 2011 at 4:32 pm

            He’s confusing an Italian murderer with the Arabic Belgian one. His other tweets don’t inspire too much confidence in his intelligence, though.

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      • As I See It says:
        December 13, 2011 at 4:58 pm

        ….narcotics, guns, grenades….borderless Schengen Area anyone?

        No? Brits just won’t love the EU

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  25. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    STOP PRESS – the BBC does science, it does. A matter if such import, it warrants a special email:

    dailyemail@ebs.bbc.co.uk

    Subject: Higgs boson ‘may have been seen’

    The most coveted prize in particle physics – the Higgs boson – may have been glimpsed, say researchers at the Large Hadron Collider.

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16158374

     

    Now, one presumes, it may also may not have been seen, too.

     

    In other news, it is rumoured that there may one day be a BBC headline on matters sciencey, that does not use the word ‘may’, or ‘could’….

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 2:47 pm

      Now, I’m confused.

      MailOnline Daily Mail Online It’s in there somewhere! World of physics ecstatic as first hard evidence of God particle is found by CERN researchers bit.ly/vBxzTg
      Not on the value of anything the MSM punts out, but just how true to type they alwasy are.
      The BBC so cautious so as to be without point.
      The DM so deperate for anything they will overblow it.
      Personally, to both, I’d advise keeping shtum until something is knwon and confirmed… and then report it.

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      • cjhartnett says:
        December 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm

        Ah…we all know that the BBC and science don`t really go together…unless Brian Cox is on hand and Carole Vorderman leaves them with a worksheet.
        Hence the Toady Masterclass in remedial science this morning.
        It seems that no-one should be considered criminal until their pre-frontal cortices are fully developed…oh how fascinating said Simple Sarah.
        None of that Bulger unpleasantness…no need to go looking for rioters if we have some phrenology callipers instead!
        Such is the level of science on offer to m`learned friends…any shyster defence lawyer already has a Readers Digest “Neuroscience for Nelly” supplement from the coming Christmas Annual edition of Ariel.
        I myself here at my own university of Neter Wallop wonder if there is a link between listening/watching the BBCs news output and my own need to riot, strike or hack phones…my pre-cranial anterior boncebone seems underdeveloped and I reckon we should use the precautionary principle and shut the buggers down until it is established that the BBC is not brain rotting fetid fatuous flummery and fakery as I belive might be “fascinating” too.
        I think it results in lobotomised presenters like Sarah Montague believing that they actually know something of what they trill gaily of. Delusional my dear!
        Does the BBC have its own crystal garden that calls itself a uni….how else do these low grade boors get to do science and talk as if they know something…

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  26. Martin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Sarah Palin getting totally trashed yet agian from Lefty Richard Bacon. He’s got some twat called Nick Broomfield on who has made a hate film about Palin.

    I can hear Bacon unzipping Broomfield’s trousers in the studio, yet it’s that bad.

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    • Ben says:
      December 13, 2011 at 3:08 pm

      Yes, totally one-sided hatchet job. What is it with Bacon and Sarah Palin? She’s not in the field for the Rebublican Presidential candidate, so why does he keep making her the subject of his hate?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 3:15 pm

      Palin hasn’t held public office for more than two years, and isn’t a candidate for anything. This is an unhealthy obsession. I think the Beeboids worry about her more than anyone in the US does. What a sad indicator of what goes on there.

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      • Martin says:
        December 13, 2011 at 3:38 pm

        I dodn’t catch all of the interview but I think it was a general attack on Evangelicals as well. Oh the best was where Bacon had a woman on to ‘stick up for Palin’. Not only was she ambushed as Broomfield said she should have watched the film (she was only given it appears a short period of notice to come on the radio) then Bacon SHOUTED HER DOWN when she stated that the left wanted to take her down. “The right want to take Obama down” shouts Bacon. No the right want Obama gone by voting him out Bacon, that is a legitimate method you twat.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:
          December 13, 2011 at 4:34 pm

          I really don’t want to have to listen to this to check myself, but does this mean that Bacon is openly supporting The Obamessiah by stating that people on the Right are wrong for wanting to take Him down?

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          • Martin says:
            December 13, 2011 at 5:25 pm

            Basically yes. Bacon also spat his dummy out about the right trying to take Clinton down (Bill that is). I’m sure Clinton got up to a lot worse than Palin did and HE was President.

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            • david hanson says:
              December 13, 2011 at 6:01 pm

              I hear Clinton knows a lot about “going down”. 😀

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            • noggin says:
              December 13, 2011 at 6:20 pm

              oops right place..

              yep! … R5live s anoon chimp, in residence (in looks & attitude .. strange but true!), strikes again …    
                 
              How many times did he cry great, everyones gotta see it, over that obvious bloody  hatchet job movie! …    
              i ve tweeted all my friends,(thats 2 secs he won t get back)    
                 
              and Sarah P again … out of the limelight, but not if you can mention TEA PARTY eh! … an unaware Palin supporter, got bushwhacked  ..  Broomfield challenging her on a film she hadn t seen, then turned down when she spouted a few home  truths, to our school blazered cult of obama … they couldn t wait to get rid of her.    
                 
              Oh yes …after she was gone, 😀 that lefty f-ckwit director, ” to you Amy you to watch the movie, & then we ll  talk ” … yup!  brave    
               
              Like Palin or not, disgraceful, bit like the movie 😀                
              Palin hatchet job! el beeb? … You-Betcha”

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  27. Ben says:
    December 13, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Not really BBC bias but perhaps symptomatic of the world that has been created by our erstwhile Labour friends and applauded every step of the way by the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16159878

    You know the lunatics are in charge of the asylum, when instead of hauling the scumbag fare-dodger in for a bollocking and sending the fear of God into him so that he and his worthless mates never do it again, the police are looking for “big man” who slung the little oik off the train.

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  28. David Preiser (USA) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Poor BBC forced by reality to report on negative behavior by the Occupiers. The darlings of the BBC have successfully shut down parts of one of the busiest shipping ports in the US. They think they’re making a statement against Capitalism, but what they’ve really done is send a bunch of union workers home without a day’s pay.

    The BBC desperately tries to portray the union members as being in support anyway, although they do allow one truck driver to complain that the Occupiers are wrong here.

    Notice, though, that the BBC leapt to assure you that two people arrested with weapons were definitely not associated with the rally.  Which is false, of course.  They were there in support, regardless of whether or not they had liaised with the official Occupy leadership. It’s unrealistic to act as if people can only be somehow officially affiliated with the Occupy movement. You’re either with them at the protests or not. I thought this was a leaderless movement, BBC? If so, how can there be official approval of attendees?

    That’s about as balanced as it’s going to get from the BBC. I suppose this balances out all the silence about the filth and destruction and disease their darling Occupiers have caused elsewhere in the country, or the BBC’s silence on the fact that Occupiers harmed working class jobs and small business owners around Zuccotti Park.

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  29. David Preiser (USA) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Auntie expands her tentacles ever further into the US, continuing to spread poison in foreign countries. And Peter Horrocks laughably claims impartiality and non-partisan reporting.


    The way some at the BBC see the television world, Fox News and MSNBC are occupying partisan poles; CNN is struggling to choose between substance and sensationalism; and another foreign import to the United States, Al Jazeera, is tainted by its host country, Qatar.

    “We’re very deliberately saying, ‘We’re not going to tell you what to think,’ ” Mr. Horrocks said.

    What a joke. Of course, they’re really going to tell us what they think, and that it’s the correct way to think. So now it’s going to be three Left-wing cable news networks versus one on the Right. I’d sooner trust Al Jazeera than most of them.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      Blimey, first Hugs Boaden has an outing to say pretty much the exact same thing this side of the pond.

      Now Peter H is giving the ‘it must be true; we say it is’ line over the pond.

      I wonder if that will get swallowed when told to the Marines?

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        December 13, 2011 at 5:14 pm

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        December 13, 2011 at 5:24 pm

        Yep, ratings = quality. After all, they won an award from their fellow Left-wing media brethren for the website. That’s all that’s left at the BBC.  One has to wonder if Horrocks and Co. understand why CNN and MSNBC have sunk so low.

        A college footbal sex scandal is more important than real government scandals to the audience the BBC is trying to attract.  Says it all, really.

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  30. David Preiser (USA) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Funny how Canada is getting top billing on the BBC News US & Canada page now that they’ve gone apostate and pulled out of Kyoto. From following the BBC during the last year or so, one would have thought that the country had fallen off the map.

    The main story mentions that China scolded Canada, but does not mention that China is the world’s biggest polluter and emitter of evil carbon. Warmist Evangelist Richard Black is also unhappy, and in his “Analysis” inset, blames the US, and says that Canada is just imitating us.

    That’s right, Dick: your crippling penalties in an attempt to drive everyone except you elite back to pre-industrial lives have nothing to do with it.

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  31. noggin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    yep! … R5live s anoon chimp, in residence (in looks & attitude .. strange but true!), strikes again …  
     
    How many times did he cry great, everyones gotta see it, over that obvious bloody  hatchet job movie! …  
    i ve tweeted all my friends,(thats 2 secs he won t get back)  
     
    and Sarah P again … out of the limelight, but not if you can mention TEA PARTY eh! … an unaware Palin supporter, got bushwhacked  ..  Broomfield challenging her on a film she hadn t seen, then turned down when she spouted a few home  truths, to our school blazered cult of obama … they couldn t wait to get rid of her.  
     
    Oh yes …after she was gone,:-D that lefty f-ckwit director, ” to you Amy you to watch the movie, & then we ll  talk ” … yup!  brave  

    Like Palin or not, disgraceful, bit like the movie 😀
    Palin hatchet job! el beeb? … You-Betcha”

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  32. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 13, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/8954238/Jeremy-Clarkson-is-a-luxury-BBC-cannot-afford-MPs-say.html

    Well, strictly speaking, that is a few MPs of a certain hue… and cry.

    Anyway, once Jezza’s gone, taking Top Gear with him, we can be assured the void will be filled with all those excellent comedians on HIGNFY, Mock the Week, etc, and their unpartisan witty banter.

    Carole Thatcher and her Mum must be seeing the funny side.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 13, 2011 at 6:12 pm

      The only way the BBC would get rid of Clarkson is if he was found in bed with a dead woman or live boy. Wait, scratch the live boy part, as that probably wouldn’t register as a problem.  In any case, there would be a massive legal fight over distribution, licensing, and DVD rights, all at your expense. Should be very amusing to watch.  
       
      This would end up costing somebody a fortune, and I bet it won’t be Clarkson. Most other broadcasting organizations would snap Top Gear up in a heartbeat, Patton is full of crap when he says  the world would be disappointed if Clarkson was fired, unless he thinks somehow the BBC can kill the show if he goes. They care only about the money he brings in.

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      • Martin says:
        December 13, 2011 at 7:34 pm

        Clarkson and Andy Wilman own the rights to the show, Clarkson can take it where he likes.

        He was offered the chance to do the show from the USA a few years back but none of the team wanted to uproot and move.

        I suspect Clarkson has already been made ‘offers’ by the likes of Sky to move the show to them.

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      • Barry says:
        December 14, 2011 at 9:52 am

        “Wait, scratch the live boy part, as that probably wouldn’t register as a problem.”

        Unless Clarkson is a Catholic.

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  33. George R says:
    December 13, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    INBBC supports Arab League v GINGRICH.

    INBBC’s default political position re-Israel, as exemplified by INBBC’s BOWEN is to support Hamas.

    As Melanie Phillips points out, Gingrich says something honest about ‘Palestine’ and :

    “Hey, stop this dangerous candidate! He’s told the truth!”

    http://www.melaniephillips.com/hey-stop-this-dangerous-candidate-hes-told-the-truth

    But this truth won’t stop INBBC from its political drive to Islamise Israel, Europe and Britain.

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  34. cjhartnett says:
    December 13, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    So the unelected goons of the EU like Barossa and Olie Rehn are threatening our boy Dave of “consequences” for daring to use a veto.
    Cameron might be a spineless excuse for a Tory, but at least he`s our democratically-elected one…unlike the Commissars of the EU.
    Cameron is turning out to be very lucky in the calibre of enemy he makes…Balls, Miliband and now these Eurojelliies.
    No mention of any of this by the BBC…they rather like the idea of the Eurovision equivalent of the BBC Trust running this country along Guardianista lines don`t they?

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    • Martin says:
      December 13, 2011 at 7:42 pm

      Some French tosser claimed he wasn’t declaring war, I couldn’t stop laughing at that, the French declaring war! what a hoot, I could piss on the entire French army and it would run away. The only decent soliders they have are the Foreign legion and for one good reason, most of them are not French.

      I’ve attached an image that would put the fear of god into any Froggy.

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      • grangebank says:
        December 13, 2011 at 9:54 pm

        What do you call an American going into a war zone ; Marine

        What do you call a Brit going into a war zone ; Paratrooper .

        What do you call a Frenchman going into a war zone ; salesman .

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    • john says:
      December 13, 2011 at 7:49 pm

      Yes, and it’s had a devastating effect on the FTSE – up, Dax & CAC – down.
      Great story for the BBC to pull faces at (not).
      And what’s this ? Wall Street – up too ?
      Oh dear !

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  35. As I See It says:
    December 13, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    H/T to Guido Fawkes, here is BBC’s news schedule for the week.

    https://twitter.com/#!/SamCoatesTimes/status/146604885553590272/photo/1/large

    Just joking, it’s Ed Miliband’s news diary.

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  36. cjhartnett says:
    December 13, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Anyone able to tell me the legal basis for the Stephen Lawrence trial being reported as it is?
    I don`t recall even the murderers of Baby P getting details of their words and deeds trawled as headlines whilst the case was going on.
    These two accused may well be guilty…certainly the Daily Mail said they were whilst the Guardian and the other leftlibrags were quaking behind their sofas…but this telling us all about their racist rantings seems somehow loaded against a fair trial.
    Maybe if they had been planning Islamic terrorism, their trial would not be getting so reperted…just a thought!

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    • 1327 says:
      December 14, 2011 at 6:58 am

      I thought yesterdays coverage was odd also and strangely out of context. For some reason I thought the trial had started a few weeks ago and presumed there had to be some kind of reporting restriction in place. What I couldn’t understand from yesterdays coverage was if the crown actually has any evidence they comitted the crime ? All they seemed to have previously was the Police surveillance video which while unpleasant wasn’t really evidence.

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    • Barry says:
      December 14, 2011 at 10:02 am

      I thought yesterday’s report was particularly curious. They reported in great detail what one of these clowns had said during the surveillance. To me, all it proved was that the individual was an ignorant twat, possibly drunk or on drugs. It was no worse than many rap lyrics.

      It was supposed to prove how racist he was – and I suppose it did, although he seemed to hate everyone. He did say, however, that he wanted to kill a black man. If he’d already achieved that, isn’t it more likely that he would have said so?

      We’ve all been conditioned to believe that they’re guilty, and perhaps they are. Not much chance of a fair trial though.

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  37. David Johnson says:
    December 13, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    I have a complaint lodged with the BBC, CBEEBIEs, over their Racism towards white English children. Anyone would think white English were the minority if they watched this channel. We choose children on acting ability they said. Yeah, right, they are selecting kids on race and gender and omitting white english from the programmes. Ethnics are always center camera on shots and always get the “lead” roles in the programmes. I hate the BBC and really wish it would close and these racist, anti british shits would be out out of work.  
     
    And I’ve not even started on their “news” coverage.  
     
    Thats what I think if the BBC.

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    • cjhartnett says:
      December 13, 2011 at 10:38 pm

      Same goes for exam papers.
      Far more time is spent on trawling the list of ethnic names for kids to be namechecked in the questions than is spent on whether the question asked is answerable,coherent or tests anything of relevance to the subject.
      Plenty time is also spent on getting skin shades right for the young persons depicted, and ensuring the wheelchair is correctly placed…inevitably Paval or Padmini have done the experiment correctly,whereas it`ll be bullet headed Sid who`s the arse who can`t have been right..unless he`s on a drip with a carer in which case he`ll be alright!

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    • Barry says:
      December 14, 2011 at 10:07 am

      I understand that a lot of parents won’t let their kids anywhere near it. As usual, of course, they don’t actually complain about this indoctrination.

      This is part of the problem.

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  38. George R says:
    December 13, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    BBC-NUJ sticks to its political agenda and gives ‘the treatment’ to three nations for refusing its agenda:

    1.) to ISRAEL, for not capitulating to Islamic demands on land;

    2.) to BRITAIN, for opposing EU’s moves to political federalism;

    3.) to CANADA, for opposing Kyoto climate diktat.

    According to BBC-NUJ, the three countries, Israel, Britain and Canada are all, in their different ways, naughty nations which have, according to the left-wing headmaster of BBC-NUJ, caused themselves to be ‘isolated’.

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    • George R says:
      December 13, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      A revisionist BBC-NUJ report, for circa 1940?:

      -‘given the power and success of Nazi Germany’s war advance, Britain has become isolated, according to sources in Germany, Italy and Japan; pressures are building on Britain to negotiate a compromise.’

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      • As I See It says:
        December 13, 2011 at 9:34 pm

        Or, a revisionist BBC-NUJ report, for circa 1806:

        A mate of Napoleon was quoted as saying of Britain:

        ‘Given the successful negotiation by 26 out of 27 European nations to form a Continental System, Britain has left herself isolated‘

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  39. As I See It says:
    December 13, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    BBC Kenwatch (don’t have nightmares).

    First in an occasional series in the lead up to the Mayoral campaign.

    It will come as no great revelation to those in the wider UK to hear that BBC London news has always been most comfortable with the idea of Ken Livingston as Mayor. 

    This has never been a regional news outfit to put the rate-payer or licence-payer uppermost. No, for Beeb London it is all about ‘community’ by which they mean ’causes’ and ‘minorities’.

    It is a news show where claims of ‘NHS Cuts’ are heard as regularly as the pips on Radio 4.

    Executive Editor or ‘Head of Region’ (these BBC titles do seem to proliferate) (Scot) Mike MacFarlane (a Guardian report once revealed that even Beeb staff regard him as ‘a management favourite’) reckons that presenter Rizla Teeth is the ‘face of modern London’.

    Oh if you don’t know MacFarlane it was on his watch that Peter Sissons wore the jazzy tie to announce the death of the Queen Mother.

    So this evening we have straight in at the top of the BBC London news the announcement of an idea from Ken called a ‘Living Rent‘.

    This translates to the state regulation of private rents. I predict that most young people will hear this sound bite and think ‘Ken wants to lower rents – cool’. I am sorry to say this but few will think it through and conclude ‘hold on a moment, this idea is about the bureaucratic manipulation of the free market – now that sort of idea has had a rotten track record’.

    Still, Tim Donovan and Rizla weigh up the pros and cons (Beeboid to Beeboid in the studio in about 30 seconds). 

    We have a mini vox pop with a pleasant young man who finds it expensive to live in London (no shit?). The banks are criticised and we worry over debts.

    Of course Boris gets a rebuttal but is put on the backfoot having to bat this one away – just before Christmas and all – what a Scrooge!

    The full preposterousness of the scheme is hinted at – Ken wouldn’t have the powers to implement it but he says he would draw up the legislation and lobby Westminster MPs to pass it.

    I know, his generosity knows no bounds. For those with any sense of history this sounds very much like a throwback to the 1980s when Ken turned London into an anti-Tory looney-left stronghold from which to fight the central Government.

    Riz moves on to the next news item which is a report from a think tank criticising Government heath reforms.

    A good news bulletin for Ken. We will see how many more good ones he gets from BBC London news.

    And you well have nightmares – all these incidents all happened in just one evening and they are very common occurences.

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  40. james1070 says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    They had a clip of Farage on news tonight giving his Titanic speech. That’s a first.

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  41. Martin says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    James Lansdale just told a blatant lie on the BBC 10PM News. Talking about Cameron he stated that an opinion poll in the Sun tonight showed that a majority supported Cameron, “but the usual caveat applies, this is only one poll”

    An utter lie as there have been two or three other polls showing exactly the same thing that around 60% of the population support Cameron’s position.

    Why does the BBC tell lies like this? Doe it think we won’t notice?

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    • Ben says:
      December 13, 2011 at 11:07 pm

      I knew James Lansdale at University. Funny that.

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    • Alfie Pacino says:
      December 13, 2011 at 11:22 pm

      They finished Newsnight with the same story, the tories have overtaken labour in opinion polls on the back if standing up to Europe – the presenter almost sneered as she read it out…

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  42. john says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I don’t normally have a go at SKY.
    There’s too much fun to be had with the idiots at the BBC promoting their unashamable left-wing bias.
    However, should the National Broadcaster wish to attract all the “talent” they couldn’t make a better pigs ear of it by offering Kay Burley a contract she “couldn’t” refuse.
    After all, it was she who enlightened us during the abomination that was 9/11, that the whole of the Eastern seaboard of the United States was ablaze.
    To-day, less excitedly, she opioned that during a time of austerity was it nessesary for such a large Xmas tree to be positioned outside 10 Downing Street ?
    Perhaps the next time she visits her plastic surgeon and awaits the “knife” she may wish to Google :
    NORWAY
    WW11
    THANK-YOU, UK

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      December 14, 2011 at 8:03 am

      That wouldn’t be ‘it may be what you witnessed, but you can’t say you saw it’ Burley, would it?

      The voice of MSM ‘news’, indeed.

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    • Barry says:
      December 14, 2011 at 10:12 am

      She tries to sound authoritative but her brain is the size of a walnut. Poor thing.

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    • Demon1001 says:
      December 14, 2011 at 10:52 am

      I saw that and agree with you that it was a cheap, fatuous remark.  However, the Norwegian gift tree is situated in Trafalgar Square I believe. 

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    • Barry says:
      December 14, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      Perhaps Cameron should send out his odd-job man (ie: Clegg) to saw a bit off the top.

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  43. grangebank says:
    December 13, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Dunno about you lot, but I spent all day being “marginalised ” and “isolated ” from the EU and didn`t want to “influence”  anyone at any “top table ” in any “room “, and dont feell any the worse .
    Mind you if I was a diplomat I would be persuaded by the BBc coverage that I need to pledge more of YOUR money to make sure my “voice was heard ”  and “be at the centre ” ,otherwise I turn into a pygmy ,or something .

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  44. Ben says:
    December 13, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Ron Paul ties Newt Gingrich in latest Iowa PPP poll

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/ron-paul-ties-newt-gingrich-in-latest-iowa-ppp-poll/#ixzz1gSV6HCqU

    It’ll be interesting to see how the BBC cover this one as past history has totally ignored the existence of Paul. He can only be a stunning surprise candidate appearing from nowhere or their coverage will be suspect.

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    • John Anderson says:
      December 14, 2011 at 9:42 am

      Yes,  another non-candidate in the BBC’s eyes.  They mus have invisible suits over there.

      Even if Ron Paul does not win in Iowa on 3 January,  he will likely do very well there as he has polled strongly in Iowa for quite a while now.  

      I think it’s called “Mushroom News Management”.  Keep the audience in the dark but keep throwing manure over them.

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  45. Alfie Pacino says:
    December 13, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    The BBC really should employ some real science correspondents because they’ve spent the last fifteen minutes on Newsnight making a real pig’s ear of conveying the experiment to locate the Higgs bosun or ‘God Particle’ at CERN.  
    Let’s see how Richard Black would handle some real science.
    Today, 23:06:06

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  46. The Beebinator says:
    December 14, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Dick Black and real science in the same sentence…… lmfao, i spat my coffee over the monitor when i read it…oh my…lol

    ive not seen or heard anything on Al Beeb from Roger Harrabin since climategate II, i hope hes not been suspended on full pay, he should be sacked

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    • Alfie Pacino says:
      December 14, 2011 at 1:07 am

      I can’t now find the reference, but I read earlier today that Harrabin was ‘taking a sabbatical’.
      Read into that what you will.

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      • John Anderson says:
        December 14, 2011 at 1:35 am

        He is on a year’s sabbatical on some US travelling fellowship.  Swanning around as usual,  it seems.  

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        • Roland Deschain says:
          December 14, 2011 at 8:21 am

          Well, he’d need a year, since surely he must be rowing to the US and back.  He couldn’t possibly take an aeroplane because that would create a very bad example to the plebs.

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          • The Beebinator says:
            December 14, 2011 at 9:19 am

            people who take a sabbatical are usually not man enough to say i quit at the time. They just dont return from that sabbatical

            one down, one to go

            🙂

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:
        December 14, 2011 at 9:36 am

        I thought it was ‘pursuing other options’? But given the BBC’s stance to settled science, that is perhaps not in the lexicon.

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  47. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 14, 2011 at 8:27 am

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/8954030/Frozen-Planet-fake-scene-row-is-revenge-for-BBC-coverage-of-Leveson-inquiry-the-BBCs-Mark-Thompson-says.html

    That’s how you get the big bucks (it was a brief flurry that had passed; now yet another market rate has rushed in to keep the issue bubbling).

    Guessing Kevin Maguire off the Xmas card list (and his #occupybbccommentray tent in the BBC Green Room ejected) then?

    “..come on. We’re making movies.”

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  48. My Site (click to edit) says:
    December 14, 2011 at 8:45 am

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16112447

    One wonders why, with all still going on, this thread was closed.. at 25, one millionth of the BBC licence fee extortee population.

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  49. George R says:
    December 14, 2011 at 9:07 am

    INBBC already has this censored:


    -“Muslim Gunman in Belgium kills 5 and injures 122”  
     
     
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/news/muslim-gunman-in-belgium-kills-5-and-injures-122/

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