Wonder what you make of this story on the BBC news portal concerning the decision by a South American trading bloc to close its ports to ships flying the Falkland Islands flag.
Mercosur, which includes Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay, came to the decision at a summit in the Uruguayan capital, Montevideo.
Now then, South American hostility towards the British Falklands is hardly a recent phenomenon but I was sickened by the fact that the BBC chooses to run the Argentinian claim to sovereignty as the lead image to accompany the story. We’ve come a long way from 1982. Thoughts?
It seems almost inevitable that the Falkland Islands will be handed over to Argentina.
Here is how I predict it will play out. At some point in the next 10 – 20 years, the UK and France will lose their permanent seats on the UN Security Council and those seats will be replaced by a single EU seat, this will happen when India and Brazil are added to the UN Security Council.
When that happens, Argentina will make a special approach to the UN to apply for sovereignty of “Las Malvinas”.
With no UK seat in the UN security council with which we could weild a veto, the EU and the USA will feel free to abandon us and grant sovereignty to Argentina.
At which point, if I was in power, I would nuke Buenos Aires.
Well if a bunch of broken down failed lushes of states?? hmm that sound too grand a description!, so bits of third world scrub land with serious questions hanging over their human rights records or lack of any economy to talk of, and are now trying to grab any oils/gas near the Falklands so they can replace the Nazi gold as all the boys from Brazil have died off!
Now know that the one Sqn of Typhoons and one Hunter killer sub would decimate any military action are being jerks and chucking their broken toys out of the faded cot!.
The BBBC will love it !
We need to restore our defence forces to at least their Falklands war capabilities. Then we should wait for the inevitable invasion attempt by Argentina and this time finish the job. The bbc should not be allowed access to our armed forces, because they will pour their bile into the eyes and ears of our nation and the rest of the world who stupidly still think the bbc is an impartial news organisation.
In any future conflict over the Falklands, which side do you think BBC-NUJ would support?:
a.) Argentina:
b.) Britain.
In any future conflict over the Falklands, which side do you think BBC-NUJ would support?
Well, from pounce’s posts on the calibre of their defence correspondents, it may be wise for Ms. Kirchner to get a second opinion on any fuse settings they see fit to share.
Is the answer Argentina? I presume this question was taken from a current A-Level history paper? Or was it Horrid Histories?
That money you spent at Edexcel to get the “answers in advance” was clearly a wise investment.
Now…for that degree on offer…tell me whether David Starkey is a
a)tw_t
or…
b)c _ _ t
for not backing down over his “Newsnight” appearance.
Take your time…phone a friend and will send you your parchment within 28 days.
Presumably, since we’re a member of the EU and the Falklands is (in international law) a self-governing British Overseas Territory, I assume that our “colleagues” will support us in an embargo on all Mercosur imports into the EU. If not, why not?
Oh and BTW the City of London could be requested/instructed to freeze Mercosur signatories assets here and – more to the point – all bank transfers concerning Mercosur countries. Since the City is at the centre of the international banking system (despite the disapproval of France and Germany) we have the power – without resorting to military adventures – to completely bugger up the Mercosur external economy. Will we deploy this weapon? I suspect not since, among other things, our politicians (encouraged, in due course, by the BBC) would rather temporise than stand up to this bullying.
Argentina’s claim is extremely relevant to the story, though you’d think anyone in Britain would know that (except perhaps the millions who have arrived on these shores since 1982). So I’m not sure it can really be labelled as bias.
And in the Beeb’s favour, they do quote an islander as saying, “If we were Palestine, the European Union would be up in arms”.
Well, as somebody who served in the falklands in 1982,1983 and 1984. (The joys of being a Sapper) I’ve forgotton more about the falklands than any bBC hack will ever learn.
Like how the Islanders were really glad to shed the jackboot of facist (yes facist) Argentina from around their neck.
Like how the argies trashed everything.
LIke how their soldiers were better equiped than ours. (You should have seen the equipment they left behind)
Just for the info, the South Americans together couldn’t take the falklands never mind Argentina,
Chile didn’t sign up, you know that chile which supplied the falklands before we started using Uruguay. But hey why let the facts stop you from lying for your leftwing viewpoint. Such as:
Watch this video and gasp as the bbC claim that the people in this hamlet wish to remain ;British’ (Giving the view that other hamlets on the Islands wish to beome spics. Which is why the bbC tosser asks the locals how they feel having British soldiers around.)
Have a look at how the bBC end their report:
British companies are exploring for oil in the waters surrounding the islands, which are 400 nautical miles from the Argentine coast.
Well seeing as the UN says your borders stop at the 200 mile limit, it seems that those drilling for oil are doing so in British waters. But you don’t get that from thearsebendingcocksucking bBC do you.
P.S
To the bBC wankers, I was the little packy who worked ont he CSB section in Stanley and helped build a radar station (Again on boats) on the other Island.
The same packy I should add who on carrying a bBC reporter to the Rangy on my CSB so as to use its marisat in which to inform London of a loss of a Harrier (with glee i suppose) asked me how many engines does a harrier have. Fool that I was, I told him, If only I have told him 2 two.
bBC defence experts?
Same blatent ignorance 20 years later. Nothing’s going to change untill we make it happen.
The reason why Argentina is making a huge song and dance about the Falkland’s isn’t about who owns what, but rather about the huge power play currently in place over the resources for Antarctica. Argentina knows if the Treaty of Antarctica is ripped up there will be a huge gold rush as countries dig up the pristine continent in order to fill their coffers. With the Falkland’s under their belt , they deny Europe, yes Europe (Seeing as the Uk is in the EU) any foothold onto the last continent , which is why they are also laying claim to British and Chilean holdings in Antarctica as well.
I wonder why the bBC kind of left out that snippet?
Fair play Pounce – We spent blood and treasure to save the islanders – Thank Christ Bliar and Bruin can’t make the decisions.
Number 7,
I don’t think Cameron is much better !
Sorry, DV, it’s a result of the old British Empire, as well as having evil Thatcher associations, so the BBC will naturally take a position on the other side. The only good international British Empire these days is the BBC, with its constant grab for audiences and money in foreign countries.
The only relevant fact is whether the will of the islanders is to stay as they are or become Argentinian. This is what the BBC should be making clear not any claim however worded by Argentina. It has no relevance.
Once again we are faced by a a group of nations with only a passing notion of what democracy as understood by Britain really is.
The average Englishman used to have an instinctive understanding of this and needed. no lessons from anyone least of all a self regarding media.
Dumb down education and change the demographics of a nation and this is no longer true. We are no longer that people sadly and the elites are to blame or rather us for allowing it to happen.
They’re complete c*nts. So is the Argentine claim. If anything, if rightful claim lay elsewhere (it doesn’t) France and Spain are next in the queue before Argentina.
pounce_uk :
Well, as somebody who served in the falklands in 1982,1983 and 1984. (The joys of being a Sapper) I’ve forgotton more about the falklands than any bBC hack will ever learn.
Which is why this blog is such a mine of information – not just from the posts themselves, but even more so in the variety of backgrounds that inform the comments section.
Reed,
Exactly. More information on this website from a small group of unpaid contributors than from the whole of the BBC’s teenage output.
Welcome back, Grant. Bet you’d rather still be in the warmth and sunshine though. 😎
British winters…ugh!
Some further reading at the ever excellent Commentator :
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/235/bring_back_maggie_thatcher_the_falkland_islands_are_british
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/487/the_roberto_mancini_doctrine_end_argentina_s_free_ride
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/739/the_falklands_latin_america_s_newest_club_picks_an_old_fight
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/575/kirchner_s_landslide_could_be_argentina_s_slippery_slope
and…
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2011/12/21/comment-the-thuggery-of-argentina-s-falklands-claim
I wonder how William Hague feels about Mercosur now?
Just a few short months ago Hague was writing in the Failygraph about the exciting new negotiations with them for increased trade between the EU and Mercosur. It was all meant to be so wonderful, Hague was orgasmic as he peddled the latest rancid crappola.
It took someone in the comments section(me) to burst his bubble and explain to this Gay Mekon lookalike that Mercosur was planning something along these lines, with old plastic bag face(you would have thought with her millions she could run to a neck lift along with the industrial face lift)scheming and planning to entice the EU with a trade deal and at the last minite pull this trick. Hey presto the EU pressures the UK to make concessions in order for the trade deal to go ahead, the EU would piss all over the UK just for fun let alone the prospect of a trade deal.
So there you go, just how retarded these regime nonces have become, they wouldnt know a power play if it sat on their faces. And que Lord West ranting about sending a nuclear sub, thatll show em eh =-O Thats the calibre of leader in the head shed? We are doomed then. What is needed is a strategic plan, a series of actions and counter actions to fight Argentina, but look what the regime has done, we have a Navy in the process of being handed to the French, whats left of it, not enough capability to invade the Isle of Mann and all the money diverted to fund the foreign aid scam.
Its enough to make you weep isnt it? We have the power to make Argentina weep, to make it sorry they ever opened their gobs and we dont have to fight with weapons at all, the UK could run rings around Argentina and yet it is they who are making us look like idiots. We are cursed with the worst regime in history, a regime that knows how to lie and cheat and manipulate but the thing is they are using this expertise on US instead of our enemies FFS. All the energy the regime expends trying to lie and cheat us into EU slavery could be used to bring our enemies down and its used on us to destroy our nation.
Can someone, please, explain to me how the bbc always asks Denis bluddy MacShane for his opinion? How discredited does he need to be, before the bbc stops pretending he is an expert? He couldn’t find the Falklands on a map of the Falklands.
Presumably he’s willing to give his opinions on the cheap, which would appeal to Our National Broadcasting Treasure as they make all their cuts to appease the Eeevil Toreez ?
Last time I heard, MacShane could be had for a cup of tepid instant coffee and a jaffa cake, but maybe his price has gone down since……..
I have been out of contact for some 5 weeks. Has MacShane been prosecuted yet ? What about Huhne ? The UK is more corrupt than West Africa these days !
My support for Falkland islanders has been tested – quotation from the president of the Falklands Chamber of Commerce, Roger Spink, apparently he told the BBC ‘if we were Palestine, the European Union would be up in arms.”
I’m not sure why this has lit the proverbial firework in your special place.
Surely Spink is simply pointing out the double standard in operation rather than trying to curry favour with the (notoriously pro-Pally and anti-anything vaguely imperial) Beeb ?
Because of the casual acceptance that the Palestine problem has set right and wrong.
I’m with Buggy there. Further up the thread I gave points to the BBC for reporting it. It’s double standards.
Special relationship cunt Obama signed the OAS declaration calling for sovereignty over the Falklands to be negotiated with Argentina. We’d do better to have a special relationship with Chile, which has a claim over some Argentinian territory. Withdrawing our special relationship troops from Germany to strengthen the Falklands garrison would frighten the Argies and Yanks and please Chile, who would give us any required naval and logistics support in return for a modest slice of future Falklands oil revenues – which will also improve our balance of payments, along with the proceeds from shale gas. If de Gaulle could get away with an independent foreign policy, so can we, and leaving the EU will prevent our gas and oil becoming “community resources”, so strengthening our international position still further. And troop withdrawal will help bring down Obama. At this point the public’s fury with a hostile BBC will enable its rapid and long-overdue privatisation.
I don’t think that we can depend on the current Chilean government to support us over the Falklands. It has previously sided with Argentina on the question of the Falkland Islands (although only in a talking-shop with no serious commitments attached).
Having said that, Chile traditionally mistrusts Argentina, has done so since independence and is perfectly happy to have a range of mountains several miles high the entire length of their mutual border. Even with a left-wing government, Chile is in a far better economic condition than peronist Argentina and isn’t likely to risk that by taking active steps in support of Argentina’s territorial fantasies. The next government in Santiago may well repudiate the current one’s support for Kirchner, especially if there is an active territorial dispute in the offing. There is hardly a border from Texas to Tierra del Fuego which is accepted by both sides. Chile and Argentina themselves have been close to war before over their southern territories.