Sir Andrew Green continues to do a fine job over at Migration Watch and he was on the BBC this morning discussing the latest report which suggests that the number of “migrants” working in the UK who were born in Eastern Europe rose by 600,000 since the so-called A8 countries joined the EU in May 2004 while youth unemployment rose by almost 450,000 in the same period. Danny Sriskandarajah, director of the Royal Commonwealth Society, was up against him and given the first and last word in the interview. I thought Sir Andrew was very calm and meaured whereas Sriskandarajah was verging on the hysterical. He dismissed the idea of a causal link between these figures, derided the analysis carried out by Sir Andrew, and then said it was up to UK employers to provide the “right” kind of employment for British youth.
THE JOYS OF IMMIGRATION
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I especially liked the programe coda, in whcih Humphreys quoting the Guardian (naturally), said that the country was now running out of curry chefs. The article in question blames… immigration controls.
And who can disagree? What sane government would impose controls that could results in a dearth of curry cooks??! Open the doors to unlimited Pakistani immigration NOW!!!!! (Oh, they are open….sorry….)
running out of curry chefs? … sounds like Keith,(vaseline) Vaz wrote that 😀
i could pick any joe from the street, within one morning hey presto curry chef, the recipes for restaurant style curry, are quite simple.
how much longer, do have to listen to this crap?
It was the same on 5live … absolute nonsense, Green was very clear and concise, that other laughable shill .. not worth a mention
Yes, and i doubt you will find any curry houses taking on white english youth to train as chefs then, tell me i am wrong.
well you can get better curries in asda, these days anyway soooo
(yep and they all use that simple restaurant method too).
bangladeshi/pakistani and shortage, hmmm in China … not a problem
china no more illegal mosques
http://youtu.be/2YWUwNgjDR4
I heard Humph shout this out by way of helping move the debate forward.
This is the exact same story that old Jeremy Vine told us of , on this very day in 2008.
Don`t know about you-but I for one have really struggled to get a curry since then…Wilmslow Roads Curry Mile here in Manchester has long beeen reduced to shovelling tripe and Vesta Chow Meins down the throat of anyone who got lost trying to lay their hands on a Pot Noodle.
The other end of the road has the BBC studios-they tend to lay the shit on rather thickly after serving 24/7 tripe!
As far as I’m concerned the fewer curry houses the better. They all serve meat that has been tortured to death.
I didn’t hear this item but, I’m prepared to believe that “Sir Andrew was very calm and meaured” compared with Danny Sriskandarajah’s hysteria. Unfortunately being “calm and measured” doesn’t cut it. I’m not saying Sir Andrew should descend to the hysteria and lack of control of his opponents but I would like to hear a bit of anger and indignation coming through.
Sir Andrew has a vast store of statistics at his disposal but uses them to very little effect on programmes like Today. Sir Andrew is not after all addressing a lecture theatre full of receptive academics on Today. His participation in such discussions are opportunities to convey rarely heard (on the BBC) truths to what is an intelligent and largely (I would guess) middle class audience and one (I further guess) which tends to vote and make its views known to our rulers. By being circumspect and admirably reasonable through playing by the rules of a 1950s game, Sir Andrew (I respectfully claim) misses every opportunity to make a significant impact on the Today audience.
Umbongo, he would be happy to hear your constructive criticism:
migrationwatchuk@hotmail.com
info@migrationwatchuk.org
SO
You mean he doesn’t read this site! I’m appalled.
But thanks for the info.
As I mentioned on a previous thread – if a leftie or Green outfit comes out with a report – the Today prog seldom has anyone there in the studio to rebut it.
Double standards
JA
True in most cases but, where no compliant leftie is immediately available (unusual I know!), it is preferable to the “let’s turn to Mark Easton (or similar) for a completely unbiased gloss on that . . . . “
Sir Andrew was somewhat put on the back foot by someone’s mobile phone going off in the middle of his interview!
I thought it was the annoying type of noise the Beeboid Corporation has a habit of playing over reports on Newsnight and the like.
Perhaps it should be for the education system to provide the right attitude and skills for our youth to work. For some long time now it has failed, completely!
“Foodcourt Multiculturalism” – as dumbed down as its possible to get. Like Chinese? Thats entry for 1.3bn Chinamen, Check! Fancy a curry (Britains favourite dish) thats 1.2 billion Indians welcome. Check!
No idea of trade to mutual benefit between autonomous separate countries. No, it’s an argument for international open borders. Adolescent minds on adult salaries.
Nice, ‘Adolescent minds on adult salaries’, that could describe the entire BBC and Guardian staff, every one of the idiots.
Absoltely right. For another wonderful example of similar Guardianista idiotthink, check our Peter Preston extolling the wonderful benefits of “multiculturalism” as experienced in South London.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/08/stephen-lawrence-melting-pot-south-london
What is heartening is the comments: I would say 100:1 poimnt out that Peter Preston’s observations are shallow, racist and predictable due to his privie;leged upbringing and wealth.
It is good to see Guardinaista/BBC-think being ridiculed – in the stinking Guardian.
We may yet be able to kill the telly tax… people are starting to see what’s going on….
Preston’s description of the South London reads like one giant Food Court. However watch the for sale signs go up as white couples with young children embarking on school age discover that, whilst it may be very handy for goat curry, your child being the only white face in the classroom apart from the teacher doesn’t look as “multicultural” and right on as they had in mind. Words are cheap. Actions tell you a lot more.
My duaghter’s sister in law has just moved from South London to Haywards Heath( school age children) . Prepared to put up with the commute. Guess why.
ROBERT BROWN; Just looked at the Graun article you flag up. I agree, most of the comments really go for his throat, very encouraging really. I was booted off CIF two years ago for doing similar against Toynbee, Monbiot, Ashley etc… but without the vitriol shown by a lot of the commenters! Think you are right, maybe views are changing at last. Wonder what Peter Preston makes of the comments! Love to see his face as he scans them.
‘100:1 point out that Peter Preston’s observations are shallow, racist and predictable due to his privileged upbringing and wealth’
Hence the BBC will ‘report’ it as ‘In the print media (or the only one we read), opinions are quite split on the issue’.
Semantically accurate possibly. Honest… no.
Maybe if forced, and hiring the tweeting BBC media producer moppet, they could concede the public view is ‘leaning’ towards not so sure?
Supplementary, from ‘Migrationwatch’:-
“Youth Unemployment and Immigration: More than a Coincidence, Says Report ”
http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pressReleases
Would’ve been better if his annoying mobile phone ringtone hadn’t totally ruined his opening remarks. What a twat. The one chance to make his case and he ruins it by leaving his phone on making his points sound comical. The lefties in the BBC studio must have been laughing their socks off.
Yes. I was fuming at that. Totally amateur.
Slightly to the side of the topic – BBC Radio Devon this morning reported on the problem Plymouth City Centre shops have with foreign students shoplifting in the summer months. The presenter quoted a Police spokesman playing down the problem, this was repeated for emphasis. A local language school owner denied there was any problem. They then found a ‘local’ shopkeeper (strong East European accent) who had had no problems. Today’s local paper on the other hand states that the shops have reported ‘an increase in shop lifting and anti social behaviour from foreign students incurring large financial loss’. An action plan calls for foreign students to carry special cards, limited numbers allowed into store at any one time and warning posters in all language schools. The Police have been working with the shops ‘on issues relating to foreign students’
Who do you believe? – answers on a post card as they say.
The Police have been working with the shops ‘on issues relating to foreign students’
Why do I find that rather sinister? “Ello, ‘ello. Have you been accusing foreign students of thievery? You’ll have to accompany me to the station for an anti-racism workshop.”
‘Who do you believe? – answers on a post card as they say’
Well, to be fair, SKY could also dispatch Kay ‘you can’t say that even though you were there’ Burley to make up the moppet with a mic IQ numbers.
I think it was just Anthony Worral-Thomson in make-up trying to get off his other local difficluties on a BlackMaria/Hunt the Queen of Spades basis by offending in every way possible at once.
I loved this recent Pew poll
64% of Italians think immigration is a “very big problem”. 42% of Pakistanis don’t like people entering that peaceful country. 40% of Britons regard immigration as a “very big problem”. Can I deduce that Brits less racist than Pakistanis?
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1461/italy-widespread-anti-immigrant-sentiment
By the way, note that 4% of Chinese think immigration is “a very big problem”. You mean, people actually IMMIGRATE to that hell hole?
The Japanese have 0.00001% problem.
They have the highest population of geriatrics in the developed world and yet they still have 0.00001% problem.
Don’t they want to celebrate the enrichment of their culture?
Don’t they realize what they are missing out on?
Answers on a postcard.
I was particularly annoyed by Danny’s closing comment that British youngsters weren’t prepared to do the ‘dirty, dangerous and difficult’ jobs that the immigrants were being imported to carry out. This tripe is regularly trotted out yet a few years ago, all of these jobs were being tackled by British people. Aren’t our dustbin men still British (dirty job?), are our soldiers still British (dangerous job?), arent a whole variety of difficult jobs being done by British workers? Why is this lie allowed without being challanged?
Top prize for irony went to the BBC robot interviewer who supported the right of employersto employ whoever they wanted (though presumably only if those employees were immigrants)
Yeah but Ed Balls himself didnt want a minimum wage because , like a lot of idiots in power now , he wants Britain to be a “high tech economy ” .
ie ; lumpen proletariat johhny foreigner can do the dirty menial tasks , the Brits can do the exciting stuff like consultancy .
Look where its got us .
Pray what is “Dirty dangerous and difficult” about working in a petrol station? Or restaurant? Or shop on Oxford Street?
… Maybe the last one is a bad example!
Pray what is “Dirty dangerous and difficult” about working in a petrol station? Or restaurant? Or shop on Oxford Street?
… Maybe the last one is a bad example!
” Do we need mass immigration?”
170 page document.
(by Anthony Browne, ‘Civitas’, 2002)
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs23.pdf
“A Nation of Immigrants?
A Brief Demographic History
of Britain.”
110 page document.
(by David Conway, ‘Civitas’, 2007)
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ANationOfImmigrants2007.pdf
As I posted elsewhere, the BBC ensured everyone knows what the ‘politics’ of Migration Watch are, unlike these Labour sponsored charities that the BBC don’t bother to tell us about.
Spot on
For instance, we weren’t informed on Today this morning that the “High Pay Commission” is a left-wing pressure group created by Compass (another left-wing pressure group) and financed by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation (a left-wing outfit). By not clarifying the exact status of and background to the HPC, Humphrys connived in the (deliberate?) deception that the HPC is some kind of official body: that was certainly the impression the audience was left with.
Pleased that the lady from the High Pay Commission was able to help put us all right.
As she mooched around Humphrys studio, I felt that they were talking about me…but had no idea either what low pay was-nor would be telling me anytime soon just how much THEY were on as they spouted the usual.
Is she a Will Hutton type of hypocrite-or a Tony Blair type?
Note that You and Yours will be fretting about tax dodging/avoidance tomorrow.
No chance of Tony Blair and his Windrush scams getting any kind of public airing is there?…,God, no(sub judice, commercial confidentiality or inappropriate to comment at this time…you the listeners decide!)
Ref the bit about importing Curry chefs?
What people on the left fail to ask when they come out with the above is that, the vast majority of chefs in the UK are taught to cook.
The vast majority of so called indian chefs are picked not becasue they can cook, but because they are willing to be paid very little money with the benefit of living in the uk..ususally on benefits.
This can be substaniated by one simple fact, the likes of the bBC have no problem pushing out the fact that unemployment is very high amonsgt the ‘Asian’ community which we all know to mean Pakistani and Bangerdeshi.
So the question we should be asking is why don’t they pick their so called chefs (Islamic men don’t cook at home, its a womans job so why are we picking men from Islamic countries..note i said men, How many women do you see getting imported to cook inside indian take-aways?… exactly) from unemployed asians in the Uk and reduce the unemplyment figures rather than continue to import people who as soon as you can say “Sign here” are cashing in on benefets most whites cannot get.
From the Independent, Oct. 2011:
“Muhammad Salim Uddin stands over a piping hot gas stove and throws a handful of sliced chicken breast into a pan…
Mr Uddin is comparatively fortunate. His boss pays him a decent wage and holiday entitlement is written into his contract. But a considerable number of the estimated 100,000 Bangladeshi Britons working in the curry trade often find themselves exploited by unscrupulous owners who happily take advantage of their ignorance of the minimums to which they are entitled.
In between dishes Mr Uddin describes the working conditions that many of his fellow cooks labour under. “I had a friend who worked for six years straight and never took a holiday,” he says. “He was always working, never had time off. He didn’t realise he was entitled to it. He knew nothing about sick leave. He just came into work.”
100,000. Ye Gods!
But seriously, folks. This isn’t about skilled curry chefs at all. On the street/community level, its about exploitation and scams.
The through-put of staff is enormous.
Come in as a ‘cook’, do your porridge for a few years and then move on.
Your place will be filled within a week…with a new ‘curry chef’
Only Sylheti speakers…..communication in the kitchen and all that.
Sure there are some up-market establishments, with the sort of up market prices that a Beeboid is quite happy accept…to pay for the ambiance…with other Beeboids.
On the subject of curry chefs; I coach youth cricket in the SW. During the last summer I had 5 Asian lads in their 20’s approach me to ask if they could take part. I said sure. They all turned out to be Bangladeshis working in a local curry house. They regularly turned up for a few weeks depending on their shift pattern. Then there were none. Asked around about what happened; all illegals here on “student” visas. All were deported.
Sorry to post on here, but can we have a new board please
Why is Cameron getting wound up over jockland? No one in England gives a shit, get rid.
I read that Guardian article too. My favourite response is this from RayonVert:
“Just how many racial stereotypes can you fit into one article?
Oh those blacks up currying their goats until all hours. Oh the vibrancy, the excitement. Not like those glum whites being all glum and depressed and working class and eating their stale pies and mouldy veg.
They are so colourful and exciting aren’t they Peter, not like us at all. Aww, bless em.”
Hilarious!
Oh, and just for the record Peter Preston, I’m black and I don’t spend my free time, as RayonVert puts it, “currying my goats”. He’s precisely the kind of patronising liberal bellend most blacks would cross the street to avoid.