Well, I think that more than few of us forecast this but because the BBC narrative insists that the “Arab Spring” was a “good” thing, our concerns were swept aside. It was all going to work out swell ;
The final results in Egypt’s first post-Mubarak parliamentary elections confirm an overwhelming victory for Islamist parties. The Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) won the largest number of seats under Egypt’s complex electoral system. The hardline Salafist Nour party came second.
Is this suggesting that the MB are not “hardline”? Really? Is this the next phase in the odious contortions the Dhimmified BBC performs. First the prospect of Islamic supremacy was dismissed. Now we are being told that the MB are not hardline! What next – blowing up the Pyramids is showing cultural sensitivity!!?
Ah but apparently, MB won`t have what is needed for an absolute majority.
The second-placed lot are more fundamentalist than the MB, so there will be have to be “compromises”….
Oh, do tell me Beeb…will gays have the option of being immured or being thrown off the minarets instead…choice of crane to be hanged from even?
That`s the Beeb for you…celebrating choice and diversity as ever!
I say “bring it on” if only in the hope that the most probable actions of the MB may wake up some of the present…erm…’doubters’. Islamic Jihad is no idle threat nor joke.
“And The BBC’s Jon Leyne in Cairo says that while the Muslim Brotherhood appear to be finally on the brink of power it is still the president who chooses the government – so the winners of this election do not automatically take office.”
Thank, Jon. Grasping at straws.
You ought to know that the next stage is the constitutional convention and the MB have made it quite clear that, following the Turkish Model, they will be going for a ceremonial not executive presidency. They have said that they will not bother to put up a candidate on April 9th because they see no point.
Still, now, at present, Tantawi appoints his transitional ministers…with the MB telling the world that it wants full control of military budget oversight.
Jon Leyne ought to know this and the MB are motoring ahead to government come the summer….when it really matters.
Repeat: Hide head in sand says Jon Leyne, the BBC’s man on the spot.
Denial is not a river in Egypt!
“Is this suggesting that the MB are not “hardline”?”
I think it was David Preiser who spotted Bowen’s description of the Moslem Brotherhood as “conservative and moderate”. The “moderate” bit was stealth edited sharpish and DP had to have recourse to NewsSniffer so he (and we) could believe our eyes. But, that initial description of MB is a pretty good indication of the mindset at Dhimmi Central.
Here’s Bowen’s original, captured by The WayBack Machine. The closing words are the BBC editorial position on the matter:
Unlike the jihadis, it does not believe it is at war with the West. It is conservative, moderate and non-violent. But it is highly critical of Western policy in the Middle East.
The “moderate” was excised within less than 24 hours. It boggles the mind to imagine how any sane person could have written it.
Thanks for that – and thanks to The WayBack Machine (rather than NewsSniffer.
“It boggles the mind to imagine how any sane person could have written it.”
Bowen is so unhinged by personal resentment and hatred of the Israelis that any alternative to the Mubarak regime which shares his hatred of Israel is perforce acceptable and worthy of effusive praise. In his skewed understanding of “impartiality”, Bowen apparently sees his position as Middle East Editor as his opportunity to “detox” for the BBC audience any enemy of Israel – even nutters like the MB (and, of course, Hamas). In that context, and that of Bowen’s mindset generally, the use of the word “moderate” is quite understandable. Obviously, such gross inaccuracy and evident stupidity proved too strong on this occasion even for the BBC and it seems that one of Bowen’s seniors stepped in accordingly.
‘so unhinged by personal resentment and hatred ‘
Seems to be more of a mandatory to be appointed top editorial positions on any beat within the BBC.
Hard to see how that is a route to professional resraint and probity in delivering objective news reports.
Now is the Spring of their discontent…
And pretty soon when the Islamists fail to deliver economic well being to the Egyptian masses, as inevitably they will, what then?
Iron rule at home and a focus on external enemies just like the Iranian ayatollahs?
Come on Beeb, give up the wishful thinking, the Twitter and the student protester blogs and show some of your renowned insight and savvy!
More “re-branding” from Al Beeb:
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal ‘to step down’
Hamas, which is branded a terrorist organisation by Israel, the EU and US, has controlled the Gaza Strip since 2007.
Not “classed as”, or “considered”, or “declared” – branded.
any mark of disgrace; stigma.
to mark with disgrace or infamy; stigmatize.
Well, as long as Hamas TV shows programming like this, which they beam throughout the world, a reasonable person might just suspect that Hamas is a totally, psychotic cult which regards terrorism is entirely integral with its world view.
Lots of Religion of Peace mainlining here for the BBC’s delight and delectation.
Anyone who has read the Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright – the genesis of Al Q in the movements spun off by the Muslim Brotherhood – knows that Bowen is wrong. Describing the MB as moderate is totally inaccurate – just look at its bloody history.
Bowen himself knows he is wrong. But he is happy to carry on lying, hiding the real poison at the heart of Middle East affairs.
A movement can’t be both moderate and conservative. One by definition cannot be the other. Unless somehow he meant “politically moderate” and “socially/religiously conservative”. But if that were true, why delete the “moderate” and not insert the modifiers?
No, Bowen was just talking sh!t, got busted for it, and a sub-editor did the stealth edit.
‘a sub-editor did the stealth edit.’
No, the story must have ‘evolved’ and suddenly the BBC ‘had learned’, overnight , that maybe MB were not ‘moderate’.
Odd their ME Editor seemed unware of that to such a juncture, though. In fact the exact reverse.
The MB is the moderate wing of the Taleban doncha know – thats lie (the New Truth), that is going around the MSM.
Constantly missing from the BBC narrative on the ‘Arab Spring’ as well as the Iraq ‘war of freedom and democracy’ is how the extremist factions using terror and violence have subdued any forces that truly represent democracy and moderation. So what we have is one kind of evil and repressive dictator who have been replaced by another with a different name.
For Christians in those lands it is a terrible situation, as at least the previous dictators protected them, knowing this was part of the ‘deal’ with the West to stay in power. So long as the extremists get a free ride with the likes of the BBC, they are free to pursue their agenda without hindrance.
2 articles from Jihad Watch illustrate the insidious nature of Arab Spring on the real moderates. I challenge anybody to show where the BBC have made these issues clear on a regular basis, as they are happening. The latter article tells of how the ‘sweetness and light – freedom and justice’ MB party (for the BBC), sided with the ‘hardline’ Salafists to prevent Christians from voting.
Christians in Syria targeted in series of kidnappings and killings; 100 dead
Egyp t: Muslim mob chanting “Allahu akbar” torches Christian homes and shops
To the BBC democratic has the same meaning as it had in The “Deutsche Demokratische Republik”
Or the Occupiers shouting someone down and bullying them in order to get their way.
I say it again and again people, the pathetic, cowardly and infantile BBC are shit scared of Muslims. If a story even remotely portrays Islam in a bad light then the left wing Guardian reading rug knitters will edit it out and replace it with some pathetic multicultural propaganda advert. But they know that we know, and they know it’s only a matter of time until the masses get sick of this dated socialist diarrhea factory and veto the iicense fee. But back to the MB, wherever there is hardline Islam, there is evil, injustice and hatred. The world does not need Islamic fundamentalism. Period!
I see the same lies in propaganda re Northern Ireland.
Sinn Fein is depicted as moderate, even though it’s just another name for the IRA, which has committed the lion’s share of the atrocities. But according to O’Beeb it is the nasty unionists who cause all the trouble really.
And as al-Beeb, the Moslem Brotherhood’s current moderate image is portrayed as genuine, even though it is mere cover for violent islamicism. Which presumably only exists because of all those nasty Jews in Israel and the US.
Agreed, this is really infuriating. Wee Gerry and Martin and mere politicians who only want the best for their people. The fact they are ENTITLED to a bunch of fucking expenses from the taxpayer but don’t take them because THEY (so fucking holier than thou santimonious cunts) don’t want to makes my blood boil: these are fucking terrorists that are KNOWN to have have more than a bloody hand on MORE than a few murders and they are ENTITLED to more expenses than 90% of britons earn in a year! FFS!!!!
I wonder if there’s any cheering in the White House over the rise of the MB. Yesterday I heard on the radio that Terhan is reporting the USA has suggested more talks about the nuclear weapons problem. This info has not been officially released yet in the US. It appears that against the will of both Republican and Democtrat party leadership, and also the pentagon, these talks are being mooted. Of course, Iran will jump at them because they can delay the sanctions which are being threatened. The commentator I heard suggested the motive is purely political – its about the big O’s re-election.
Egypt: Islamic parties win 75% of parliament
“These are the people who will be drafting the next constitution. A democracy is only as good as the values that inform its participants.”
Egypt: Female former member of Muslim Brotherhood tells all
“Surprise! It’s a self-serving, dysfunctional organization.”
What I love about him most is his humility. Evidence this tweet:
“Really excited. Gonna have my portrait done by Rebecca Cartwright. http://www.therp.co.uk/for-artists/bulldog/ 60 hours sitting still though.”
A celeb if ever there was one