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Friday and a new one of these. Am rather busy hence lack of posts, it would be helpful if a few others could post to try and keep momentum going.

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    • noggin says:
      February 10, 2012 at 4:31 pm

      well this was an open secret, all those years ago, in fact it surprised us how he got away with no indepth police involvement.
      is this article, just a tad of an explanation 😀

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      • stevefb says:
        February 10, 2012 at 7:57 pm

        This story was also recently covered by Richard Ingram’s Oldie magazine. The claim there was that Newsnight uncovered new information, hence the current disquiet re non-broadcast.  

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    • Martin says:
      February 10, 2012 at 4:31 pm

      What we know is the bloke was still warm in the coffin and the BBC were ready to stick the knife in then…..oh hang on.

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  2. David Preiser (USA) says:
    February 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    So Barclays is cutting bonuses for their own evil greedy employees. The trend begins. This is being driven by the BBC, yet nobody seems to complain.

    If the Mail can cause an outcry, and Beeboids and favored comedians and actors and Guardianistas can bitch about it, why doesn’t everyone assume the BBC to have the same power? The BBC pushes the “get out the pitchforks” agenda, and we’re starting to see the results. Yet they continue to roll their eyes at any such accusations and continue to get away with it.

    We’ve seen certain segments of the media try the same thing here in the US, but it hasn’t worked as well. Thankfully, we don’t have an official national broadcaster with a legacy of trust and culture spanning generations, from which the majority of the public gets their news and opinions.

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:
      February 10, 2012 at 8:56 pm

      I was in the gym tonight on the running machine  :'(  and on the little telly was the BBC news with Fiona Lookatmyarse.  I didn’t have any headphones so it was silent thankfully.

      Up comes on the screen the Barclays logo, a picture of Bob Diamond, and the number £3 million.

      A more relevant number (you would think) would be Barclays’ £6bn profit, the tax on which funds the client state.

      Anyone remember a picture of ToptalentGraham Norton on the screen with the number £3 million, or Fiona Lookatmyarse with the number £1.2 million, or Jeremy Vine with the number £1.4 million.

      Nah, me meither.

      The droids – thick as pig shite.

      (usual apology here to any offended pigs)

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  3. pounce_uk says:
    February 10, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    The bBC brings out yet another bleeding hearts article for murdering scum:
    ‘Shocking’ toll of prison remand deaths
    A lodger accused of a double murder has been found hanged in prison two weeks after a man in a separate double murder case was found hanged in his cell.Both men were on remand at the time of their deaths. Last year, more than 40% of people who killed themselves in prison were on remand, according to The Howard League for Penal Reform.But why do so many prisoners on remand take their lives and is it possible to prevent suicide if someone is determined to take their own life?

    Yet again the bleeding heart liberals at the bBC wax lyrical about the rights of murdering scum rather than the victims of these odious people.
    ‘Shocking death toll’
    Frances Crook, the chief executive of the charity, which campaigns on a range of issues to do with prisons and community safety, said: “We have seen 30 deaths in January – nearly one person a day dying in custody.

    Never a more apt name for somebody who feels that criminals have more rights than decent law abiding people. Well you want to know something crooky That figure of 1 death a day isn’t enough for me, more the merrier. But then I suppose to the toffueatingethicallattedrinking wankers at the bBC this is the biggest travesty in the UK.

    The bBC the traitors in our midst. 

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    • pounce_uk says:
      February 10, 2012 at 5:17 pm

      The impact of a prisoner’s suicide on those affected by crime is something the charity Victim Support is concerned about.
      Javed Khan, chief executive of Victim Support, said: “News that an offender or person on remand has committed suicide is bound to have a strong emotional impact on the victims.
       “Some victims will feel cheated of justice, others left wondering if the person on remand was responsible or not. It’s vital in situations like this that the authorities keep the victims of the crime informed – or the families left behind in the case of murder – and that they make contact sensitively.

      And I bet the vast majority of victims feel really glad the murdering scumbag is dead and thus saved the tax payer a lot of money. Yet, the bBC or Mr Khan don’t mention that side of the story. I suppose the bBC will now edit the Wizard of Oz in which to take out how the little people celebrate the death of the Wicked Witch. I mean we be can’t be seen to be making fun of nasty people now, can we?

      The bBC the traitors in our Midst.

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      • thespecialone says:
        February 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

        Many years ago I went for an interview as a volunteer for Victim Support. I declined their offer of a postion when I was told “criminals are victims too”.

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    • DJ says:
      February 10, 2012 at 5:19 pm

      I just knew there’d be a reference to Toricutz in there….

      ….just like I knew there would be no one quoted to point out that in so far as hacking people to death does tend to point to certain psychological issues in these people, their penchanct for self-harm may not be all down to Theresa May.

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    • deegee says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm

      Just for the record. There are no criminals in remand. Innocent until proved guilty. There are only people accused of committing a crime.

      Unlike prison which is a punishment (we can argue about recidivism, severity of punishment and prison conditions in another place) remand is designed to restrict the movement of an accused until trial and judgement not to be, as far as is possible, a  punishment. If a substantial number commit suicide while in remand it really ought to be investigated.

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  4. cjhartnett says:
    February 10, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    PM has just had The Lord Prescott on…PBUH!
    Turns out that he wants to run Humberside police…and Carolyn Quinn gently tees `em up for him.Wods to the effect of “thanks ever so for coming down off yer cloud to mix wiv the `umble”.
    No sexual harrassment or assaulting famers…none of this sex amidst the Queen Mothers wreaths…not at all!
    Instead-won`t being so important and great only ensure you will be crowned without due democratic rigour-you are a Lord and of the Peoples Party after all, sir!”
    No mention, of course; of how the likes of this fat mangler of the English Languuge can defend creaming off another public sector payroll job, when youth unemployment is so high…how could he?
    But the Beeb won`t ask-and give the Fat Chower five minutes of free time to promote himself.
    Thought he was sorting out climate change near Tibet….and if Prescott wants his duck and rice delivered quickly, I don`t want him with any access to squad cars to do it!
    F666 the BBC!

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    • Martin says:
      February 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm

      Well if Prezza does as bad a job of running plod as he did Trumpton it should be a real laugh.

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    • Millie Tant says:
      February 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm

      Was there ever a more dedicated trougher than this Lord? I was against this elected police commissioners lark before I even heard about it being carved up among the main parties, let alone the possibility of this sleaze- bag being in the running. It was dispiriting listening to this liar spouting garbage about running in order to ensure that the people get what they want. When did that ever count with his Labour government?  How depressing to think of this being a re-run of old Labour has-beens like him. The man’s greed for power and living high on the hog at the taxpayer/s expense knows no limit.

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  5. David Preiser (USA) says:
    February 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Esler on the News Channel has been covering the noise about the Falklands. A couple minutes ago he was talking to some guy from Argentina who said it was a matter of national pride, etc., and the Argentinian people felt that the islands “historically” belonged to them. Esler was clued in enough to ask if there wasn’t also an oil factor involved, but failed to point out that back when Britain took control of the Falklands, there was no such thing as an Argentinian people. No real challenge to the Argentinian position at all, really, just helpful statements by Esler clarifying their position for the audience.

    Yet when he then talked to some woman who was defending the British position, he even tried to challenge her by saying that having search and rescue crews in the area was provocative militarization.

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    • wild says:
      February 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm

      If the “Malvinas Islands” (as the script writers on the BBC children’s programme The Sarah Jane Adventures made a point of describing them a while back) were invaded by Argentina there would be empty champagne bottles again in Broadcasting House 1) Because it would damage the Coalition and help bring back another (glorious) Labour government 2) It would be a defeat for the (imperialist) British Armed Forces 3) It would provide a precious opportunity to mock the grocer’s daughter from Grantham 4) With a bit of luck some Falkland Islanders will be killed by the Argentines giving BBC journalists something else to talk about other than Tory cuts.

      P.S. Come to think of it they would blame the invasion on the cuts to the armed forces.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        February 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm

        They’ll probably also find time to rerun that Dr. Who episode where PM Harriet Jones destroys the alien ship at the end, and Tennant’s nostrils flare in rage and scream, “They were leaving!”, and we learn that this act precipitates her downfall.

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        • Cassandra King says:
          February 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm

          The degenerates at the BBC just cant seem to get over the Belgrano can they? 😀

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          • Demon1001 says:
            February 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm

            I remember reading that the Captain of the Belgrano, who survived, years later admitted that they were a legitimate target in war and the only reason that they were going “away” is because they were zig-zagging.  Some time before they were heading towards the islands and they would have been again later.  A terrible loss of life but the fault can all be laid on the Argentine government of the time, yet another fascist government popular with the left-wing.

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            • Reed says:
              February 10, 2012 at 9:24 pm

              As revealed here.

              “Top secret papers are set to prove that the warship Belgrano was heading into the Falkland’s exclusion zone when it was sunk, and not heading back to port as the Argentinians claimed. “

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              • pounce_uk says:
                February 11, 2012 at 12:29 am

                I’ve dabbled at the martial arts since the 70s. A few years back I was doing Ju-Jitsu and one of the lads there kept on asking me to fight him, I knowing what I can do kept on refusing him, one day sick of his badgering I accepted. He young ,strong and good, Me just that bloke who never fights anybody and always says sorry if he hurts anybody. It was over in seconds, I took his knee out, everybody had a go at me, including his wife , why? he started it, I finished it simples.  

                The same thing transpired in Germany where my new black belt wanted me to fight for him, I refused and he found a young lance jack to do his bidding, Anyway later on he drew up a fight between me and his protege and on the mat he attacked  boy did he attack, problem was he was so easy to work out, me I kept on moving back until I saw my chance and dropped him with an ushiro mawashi geri ( A reverse round house kick) he dropped onto the floor and the sensi came out with “Anybody can do fancy kicks” I repleid “I’m not the one on the floor” and walked out of the Gym.  (Have to admit, even i was impressed with that kick)
                My point. 
                Like the British army I play only to win, none of this girly pushing the other fellow for me, in and out hard and fast. There lies the reason why the bBC don’t like my mindset, I (like the British military) don’t mess about and get on with the task at hand. 

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 7:45 am

      ‘failed to point out’

      It is almsot now a tautology in decribing BBC ‘reporting’ or ‘interviews’.

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  6. pounce_uk says:
    February 10, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    I see the bbC (As mentioned at the end of the last open thread ) have dragged up the death of Roy Hunniford in its usual loaded towards Islam article.
    Ray Honeyford: Racist or right?
    Ray Honeyford, the head teacher who caused a national controversy over his outspoken criticisms of multiculturalism in schools, has died. But have his views, which once polarised opinion, become mainstream?… Bradford’s then Labour Mayor, Mohammed Ajeeb, called for Mr Honeyford’s dismissal…. Mohammed Ajeeb stands by his actions more than a quarter of a century later. He told the BBC: “The article was very critical of the Muslim culture and the race relations situation in the city was not very good at that time.
    “If he wanted the Asian children to get better equipped with linguistic skills, he could have advocated the policy of dispersal of pupils among different schools into other areas, which is what I wanted. He could have done that if he was interested in the harmony and mixing of different races and living and working together.”But he chose simply to criticise the culture and religion. He was not critical of the education system, which I think in those days was responsible for the perpetuation of schools developing in such a way that they were more apart.
    “It smacked of cultural chauvinism.”

    Yes in the eyes of the bBC nobody but nobody may dare to oppose the march of the leftwing/Islamic bigot and anybody who does so must be sanctioned, removed or re-educated. So has anybody read what Mr Honeyford wrote and where he was coming from. He was a head teacher where the vast majority of children were ‘Asian’ his words not mine, yet the bBC allows the former mayor ’Mohammed Ajeeb to play the Islamic  victimcard(His words not mine)
    He told the BBC: “The article was very critical of the Muslim culture and the race relations situation in the city was not very good at that time.

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  7. pounce_uk says:
    February 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    OK let look at what Mr Honeyford wrote shall we:
    I recall, for instance, the meeting called to explain to Asian parents the importance of regular school attendance for their offspring’s future. A very high proportion of Asian immigrants have a habit of sending children to the Indian subcontinent during term time with obvious, deleterious educational consequences. Not only is the practice inadvisable, it is almost certainly illegal, though no local education authority has had the courage to bring a test case, and the Department of Education and Science turns a blind eye. After much badgering from the schools, the local authority had agreed try to impose on brown parents the same obligations it demanded from white and black parents with regard to school attendance…. Against all normal expectations the meeting was packed. There had obviously been a local ‘three line whip’ from the Pakistani leadership. It quickly became evident that what had been proposed as an act of reconciliation, based on the school’s concern for the child, was to descend into a noisy and unseemly demonstration of sectarian bitterness. The hysterical political temperament of the Indian subcontinent became evident — an extraordinary sight in an English school hall. There was much shouting and fist waving. The local authority was accused of ‘racism’; the chairman insulted. One anglicised Asian stood near the door and, at regular intervals, shouted ‘bullshit’ at the chair. The disorder was orchestrated. Questions were always preceded by a nod from a Muslim leader… I raised my hand to speak several times but was ignored. The atmosphere was highly charged and threatening. I left before the end, bitterly disappointed. Needless to say, the absenteeism of Asian pupils abroad continues. The authorities have simply given up. And I am left with the ethically indefensible task of complying with a school attendance policy which is determined not, as the law requires, on the basis of individual parental responsibility but by the parent’s country of origin — a blatant and officially-sanctioned policy of racial discrimination

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    • pounce_uk says:
      February 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      So a teacher concerned about the poor standards attained by his students is shouted down as a racist for stating the bleeding obvious and the bBC allow a former mayor to lead the posse against him.  A religious bigot who the bBC allow to play the victim card in which to promote their leftwing ‘Muslims can only be victims’ angle. I quote:
      “I received hate mail saying I should go. I still have a sack full of racist letters I’ve kept.”
      And poor Mr Honeyford, he had to have police protection, but according to the bBC he was a ray-cist
      I’ll leave with another snippet from Mr Honeyford’s article :
      The issues and problems of our multi-racial inner cities are frequently thrown into sharp relief for me. As the head teacher of a school in the middle of a predominantly Asian area, I am often witness to scenes which have the raw feel of reality — and the recipient of vehement criticism, whenever I question some of the current educational orthodoxies connected with race. It is very difficult to write honestly and openly of my experiences and the reflections they evoke, since the race relations lobby is extremely powerful in the state education service. The propaganda generated by multi-racial zealots is now augmented by a growing bureaucracy of race in local authorities. And this makes freedom of speech difficult to maintain. By exploiting the enormous tolerance, traditional in this country, the race lobby has so managed to induce and maintain feelings of guilt in the well-disposed majority, that decent people are not only afraid of voicing certain thoughts, they are uncertain even of their right to think those thoughts. They are intimidated not only by their fear of giving offence by voicing their own reasonable concerns about the inner cities, but by the necessity of conducting the debate in a language which is dishonest.

      The bBC, the traitors in our midst.

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      • RCE says:
        February 10, 2012 at 7:06 pm

        Don’t you just love the irony of a Mohammed accusing others of ‘cultural chauvinism’?

        Providing civilisation survives, in time Honeyford will be revered for the true hero he was. May he rest in peace.

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  8. Charlie says:
    February 10, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Good stuff  pounce.
    Ray Honeyford was a hero of mine he was brought down by a baying mob of idiots. For telling the truth he paid a very high price.

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    • John Anderson says:
      February 10, 2012 at 6:49 pm

      Yes indeed.  A very fine man,  a good teacher,  destroyed by racists – because he spoken the truth.  And STILL the BBC will not accept the home truths he told the parents and the nation. 

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  9. pounce_uk says:
    February 10, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    The bBC continues its anti-British drive over the Falkland Islands.
    Falklands: UN chief calls on UK and Argentina for calm
    UN chief Ban Ki-moon has called on Argentina and the UK to avoid an “escalation” in tensions over the disputed Falkland Islands. His appeal came as Argentina’s foreign minister made an official complaint to the UN about the UK’s “militarisation” in the South Atlantic. Last month the UK said it was sending one of its newest Royal Navy destroyers to the region.
    The two countries went to war in 1982 over the British overseas territory.
    War, bBC? War was never declared it was a conflict. I do like the loaded sentence which describes how the UK went to war over an overseas territory. Thus implying stolen land.
    The UK says it is only carrying out routine operations in the South Atlantic, off Argentina’s east coast.
    Really, just off their coast,  the Falkland’s are  over 300 miles away from Argentina bBC , that’s the same as saying that a ship docked in Hull is off the Danish coastline. Good job the British are sending HMS Dautmess then I quote from the bBC:
    “The HMS Dauntless, which is due to arrive off the Falklands in March, is among the largest and most powerful of the UK’s air defence destroyers.”
    “The” HMS Dautless bBC, f-ing hell what does one need to get a job at the beeb a degree in Arabic? But back to the above. how threatening can HMS Dauntless be to Argentina if it is an air defence destroyer. It’s not fitted out for long range surface to surface contact, (Anything more than a few miles) its role is anti-air. So much for the bBCs defence experts.
    The UK says the islands have been militarised ever since Argentina’s invasion in 1982 and insists its defences remain unchanged and the warship is only replacing one in the area.
    Yes bBC lets look at what the UK has down there shall we:
    1 destroyer,
    4 planes
    Around 500 soldiers of which around 120 are infantry.

    Now Argentina can bring to the table over 53 jets to the table. 4 destroyers , 9 corvette’s and 3 subs

    So on paper who can more to the table? But I do love this snippet from the bitch who cried over the death of Arafat :
    The escalating rhetoric reflects escalating tensions over the 30th anniversary in April of the Falklands war, the BBC’s Barbara Plett at the UN in New York reports. Our reporter says there is a fair bit of sympathy at the UN headquarters for Argentina’s position that the Falklands are a British colonial holdover.
    No change in her liberal mindset then. Shame the bBC don’t mentioned the huge chunk of Paraguay , Argentina annexed in 1876. You know that bit of land around 5 times larger than the falkland islands. But then only the British and Jews steal land according to the bBC don’t they.

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    • thespecialone says:
      February 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

      As somebody who was in the RN at the time and lost 2 of my mates on HMS Ardent, I remember well the BBC and their biased reporting against us. Of course the most damming thing beeboid stated was the reason why their bombs were failing to go off.

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      • All Seeing Eye says:
        February 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

        An oppo of mine was on HMS Glasgow down there when a bomb hit her and didn’t go off. I will never ever forgive the BBC for the way they reported that. Never.

        In fact, just as I’m typing this and memories are coming back – the Falklands were probably the first time I really started hating the BBC.

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        • Martin says:
          February 10, 2012 at 7:47 pm

          join the club, seeing the BBC try to rubbish my mates as well pissed me off, I’d have chucked the BBC scum over the side.

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      • DJ says:
        February 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm

        And then there was reporting that the Paras were on the way to Goose Green too.

        It’s simply a historical fact that the Argentine garrison was heavily reinforced in between the BBC’s announcing the Paras were coming and the battle starting. Coincidence? The BBC ain’t telling.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 7:55 am

      ‘Our reporter says there is a fair bit of sympathy at the UN headquarters for Argentina’s position’

      This would be the awesome outfit that has decided to talk itself to death endlessly, yet again, as another bunch of aggressive types who give a flying fig for what finger wavers protest about gets the nod and wink to mortar the next hospital?

      And the BBC reckons it’s valid to breathlessly claim that a view it happens to hold is shared by a bunch of lowlife cowards and bullies in the UN who make the EUrovision judges seem gloriously impartial in sticking it to any they have a historical beef with.

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      • Barry says:
        February 11, 2012 at 11:44 am

        We need to maintain some backbone and ignore this ridiculous, third world play pen.

        There is no argument over the Falklands unless we say there is.

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  10. Span Ows says:
    February 10, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Interesting here tre Greece:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16987644

    No mention of the small detail that the EU also wants salaries in the private sector to be cut by 20%. 

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  11. cjhartnett says:
    February 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Surprisingly good night on the radio then?
    Eric Pickles not rolling over about the National Secular Societys current(if short-lived) victory about Council prayers.
    Rick Wakeman ensuring that the usual leftie love-in of the News Quiz didn`t arise.
    Thank Rick and Eric for such little victories-the weekend looks better for it!

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  12. Jane Tracy says:
    February 10, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    The BBCs economics editor Stephanie Flanders made quite a gaffe even by her low standards in her blog on the 26th of January. Whilst still high on meeting those at Davos (Steph loves reflected glamour) she reported this.

    “Finally, and more quietly, the Greek government has slashed its way to a primary budget surplus: as of now it is only borrowing money to pay off the debt.”

    Yes that surplus must be the reason for Greece begging for more money and being near collpase……Oh wait a minute!

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  13. pounce_uk says:
    February 10, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    The bBC continues its anti_british message over the Falklands Islands.
    The latest news flahs from the bBC reads that Argentina is complaining about the 4 fold increase in the British military presence by sending down HMS Dauntless. Really bBC? Any astute person would know that any such complaint will result in the UN asking the Uk to clarify the situation and the Uk will tell them thus allowing Argentina exactly what we have down there.  I wonder why the bBC doesn’t mention that. Oh and for f-sake bBC. HMS Dauntless doesn’t replace HMS Montrose until the end of next month. So how the hell can you continue to shite-stir by continually regurgitating this old tripe:
    The UK says the HMS Dauntless is being sent to the South Atlantic as part of routine operations

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    • pounce_uk says:
      February 10, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      (The HMS Dauntless bBC?, don’t you mean HMS Dauntless, HMS is an acronym, it stands for Her Majesty’s Ship . You wouldn’t write The Her Majesty’s Ship would you, hang on what am I saying you already have. Gosh I wonder if the twit with the media studies degree who wrote that achieved a 2.1)

      Maybe there lies the reason behind the continuing Anti-British articles from the bBC, unable to research the subject due to a cheap plastic degree their reporters resort to mud flinging in the hope that some sticks. Unless the article is about the beauty of Islam. Then it facts galore.

      The bBC, the traitors in our midst.

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      • pounce_uk says:
        February 10, 2012 at 10:45 pm

        And the bbC steps up a gear by repeating the Argentine propaganda that the UK has sent a Nuclear armed Sub into the South Atlantic.
        Argentina claims UK sent nuclear submarine to Falklands
        Err bBC, do any of your so called Military experts know the difference between a Nuclear Hunter killer (The Trafalgar class) and a Nuclear Ballistic  Submarine (Vanguard class) why would any rational mind send a nuclear missile armed sub (of which we have 4 , 1 on patrol, 1 in dock, 1 training and 1 getting refitted)  when its missiles (with a range of 7000) would be out of range of their designated targets in the Northern Hemsphere. Instead they would send a Hunter killer of which we have 7 (6 Trafalgar class, 1 Astute class)
        But here is what really gets me, remember that Russian surface fleet that was off the coast of Scotland the other month. Well guess where that fleet is now. Why only off Brazil, I wonder why the Argentines don’t bitch about that, because as we all know the Russians wouldn’t carry nuclear weapons on their ships would they.

        I also wonder why nobody at the bBC is mentioning how the Russians have 1 nuclear powered Aircraft carrier , 
        Admiral Kuznetsov , ASW ship Admiral Chabanenko, frigate’s Yaroslav Mudry and frigate Ladny are gallivanting around the South Atlantic , even funnier the bBC never mentioned when the very same fleet docked in Syria the other week. 

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  14. dave s says:
    February 10, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    The BBC has become semi literate- The HMS? Poor stuff.

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  15. David Preiser (USA) says:
    February 10, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    So the President is having to make yet another compromise on His Health Care Plan For Us because enough people got wind of the fact that He was going to force Catholic institutions to violate their religious beliefs and pay for birth control for their employees.

    The BBC attempts a balanced report about it, but just can’t resist making sure you get the White House message. Four different times, they quote the President or a White House talking point about fairness and protecting women’s health – the standard buzz words on this issue. The full White House position is spelled out and reinforced. Plus there’s an extra White House talking point that some states already have similar laws on the books, just to help further diminishing critics, as if there’s nothing wrong with it because someone else is trying it. There are three spots of actual opponents’ words, plus a “critics say”, so we’re heading towards balance, although not really there. Once can sense the poor sub-editor striving, so a little bit of credit where due.

    Aside from that, I’m sure insurance companies will be overjoyed that they have to provide birth control free of charge, out of their own pocket, if a Catholic employer’s plan doesn’t cover it.

    But the BBC ends with:


    The Obama administration has sought to portray the issue as a balance between religious freedoms and preventing discrimination under the new healthcare law.

    Just in case you didn’t get the message. They just can’t help themselves.

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  16. Jon S says:
    February 10, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    just wondering, does the BBC provide private medical treatment or insurance to their employees?

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  17. Martin says:
    February 10, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Comrade Mason on Newsnight dressed for a riot and spouting his usual lefty bollocks.

    Mason tells us that the greek politicians have signed up to something the people don’t agree with.

    Hang on Mason, that would be th unelected Greek Government that was installed by Adolf Merkel (and nodded along with by Mason, Flanders and co) a few months ago.

    So how come Mason ‘forgot’ to mention that just now?

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:06 am

      ‘Comrade Mason on Newsnight dressed for a riot’

      Kind of his main gig now. Is Laurie Penny aft gunner as he dives in with his Stuka-like precision ‘reporting’.

      They billed his latest barricade storming effort as ‘Our Economics editor Paul Mason is in Athens where protesters have clashed..’.

      I wrote to opine that it may be better in future to say ‘Our Protests editor Paul Mason is in Athens where economists have clashed …’

      Oddly, it got referred even before it appaeared, and so far no email as to why after a day.

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  18. deegee says:
    February 10, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Korean tourists kidnapped in Egypt’s Sinai peninsula
    Check out the last line.
    A gas pipeline from Egypt to Israel has also repeatedly been sabotaged, though Sinai’s tourist resorts have remained largely secure.
    Is there any evidence at all that the Bedouin are responsible?

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  19. Jeff Waters says:
    February 11, 2012 at 12:14 am

    ‘Rumours of deaths of celebrities and world leaders commonly spread on social-media sites like Twitter.’ – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16993394

    Are they?  It’s escaped my notice…

    Jeff

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:09 am

      ‘on at least two fake BBC Twitter accounts, which have since been closed.’

      As the BBC seems to view anything on Twitter as OK to punt out as ‘sources say’ so long as they dismiss any responsibility for it, it’s a shame it’s only fake twitter accounts bearing the BBC name that are being closed.

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  20. pounce_uk says:
    February 11, 2012 at 1:07 am

    The bBC’s Guide to the Falkland Islands
    Regions and territories: Falkland Islands
    The isolated and sparsely-populated Falkland Islands, a British overseas territory in the south-west Atlantic Ocean, remain the subject of a sovereignty dispute between Britain and Argentina, who waged a brief but bitter war over the territory in 1982.
    Argentine forces, who had landed on the Falklands to stake a territorial claim, were ejected by a British military task force.
    I see the bBC continues with its leftwing viewpoint on the falklands which is why it has rewritten History in which to remake the British as the bad guys. I mean Argentina never invaded with deadly force in 1982 (read up on how they attacked Moody Brook barracks with machine gun and rockets in the hope of catching the Royal Marines in their beds.) But according to the bBC they landed in which to stake a territorial claim , of course they did bBC. Which is why the bBC also reports the bloody invasion of the Falklands by Argentina writing:
    After months of sabre-rattling, Argentine troops set foot on the islands on 2 April 1982.
    Setting foot bBC? Strange how the bBC which waxes lyrical over how Arabs, China and Argentina never invade others but the nasty Americans, British and Jews do.
    In December, the Argentine parliament passed a law laying claim to the Falklands, along with nearby South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands, in a move rejected by the UK.
    Nearby??? South Georgia is around 1000 miles from the Falkland’s,  over 1500 miles from Argentina, nothing nearby about them. Antarctica is bloody closer and nobody say’s that’s nearby.
    In what it described as a “routine” move, early in 2012 the British government dispatched one of its newest destroyers, HMS Dauntless, to the South Atlantic to patrol the Falklands coast.
    Again the bBC promotes this belligerent British point of view. Once again bBC, the Royal supplies a ship to patrol the Southern Atlantic and they do so for 6 months at a time, currently HMS Montrose is on duty, she replaced HMS Edinburgh and she in turn will be replaced by HMS Dauntless.

    The bBC the traitors in our Midst.

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    • RCE says:
      February 11, 2012 at 7:26 am

      ‘Set foot’ makes it sound like some sort of benign, intrepid exploration, like landing on the moon.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:17 am

      Maybe the ‘South American League’ can send in observers to award points for content and star quality as Ms. Kirchner and her merry band of Morris Dancers scamper up the beaches, with PR provided by none other by the BBC.

      Stictly Come Invading (Again)?

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    • As I See It says:
      February 11, 2012 at 9:14 am

      I hope the Argentines are grateful to the Beeb for all the PR they are busily churning out in favour of their claim to these islands.

      I would like to see Argentina take the dispute to the next logical stage. Sporting sanctions. Yes I hope they pull out of the 2012 Olmypics and persuade their Latin American pals to do the same.

      I’m sure we have offended the Russians and the Chinese sufficiently over the Syrian issue for them and their mates to pull out. The remaining Arab Spring dictators must be pissed with us for encouraging their downfall.

      The Beeb told me that Cameron had issolated us from 26 other EU nations. This Maldives bloke reckons we are drowning his islands with global warming. Afghanistan, Pakistan – they go without saying. Even the Aussies are fed up with the Queen.

      In fact I can’t understand why anyone wants to come here.

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  21. John Horne Tooke says:
    February 11, 2012 at 1:50 am

    So its Cameron pushing for more women in the top city jobs?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16958852

    Or is it?

    I thought conservatives did not do social engineering. Seems Cameron is worse than Blair when it comes to EU directives. I really detest dishonest people. There is no chance Cameron will ever tackle the socialist BBC as he is one himself.

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    • Reed says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:06 am

      Thanks for the link, JHT.  
       
      Nigel Farage has the balls to say the things that most of the mainstream politicians would never say in public, even though some might believe them in private. As you so rightly say, JHT, this is simply dishonesty resulting from cowardice. We need people like Nigel to show the public that politicians can say these things that chime with the silent majority, provided they do so with boldness and confidence. Of course, one has to have the courage in the first place. Some hope.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 5:34 am

      Yes, thanks for that. Very amusing, surreal even, to see someone given air time on the BBC attacking Cameron’s Government from the Right. Too bad Farage is never this coherent or useful in making his party an actually viable option.    
         
      But it was really driven by Neil, an actual rara avis in the BBC zoo. Interesting how this approach is relegated to the relative wilderness, and never makes it onto Today or other top-tier news shows.        
       
      Also noticed Jo Coburn laughing out loud at Farage saying that the high speed rail deal is a bad idea. No bias there, then.

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      • RCE says:
        February 11, 2012 at 8:32 am

        David – to be honest, I think she was laughing at the emphatic, straight and clear answer that Farage gave.  She’s probably not used to it.

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  22. David Preiser (USA) says:
    February 11, 2012 at 5:39 am

    When does the BBC mention that the Senate is controlled by Democrats? When they can portray them as standing up to China in the best interests of the US economy, and blame nasty Republicans for the problem (last line of the news brief).  Too bad they refuse to do so when reporting on other issues. How sad are you, BBC?

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  23. Jeff Waters says:
    February 11, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Argentina in UK ‘nuclear’ claimWhy is this currently the main headline?

    Argentina complained days ago to the UN about the UK boosting its military presence around the Falklands.

    And what’s the significance of the fact that we’ve sent a nuclear submarine?  It’s not like we’re going to nuke Buenos Aires!

    Jeff

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  24. As I See It says:
    February 11, 2012 at 8:56 am

    People with epilepsy

    You remember when you were diagnosed with this condition. Of course you do. Your doctor warned you about possible triggers, such as flash photography….yes of course, sorry it would be patronising to suggest that you might forget. So you do know. Fine.


    BBC News presenters

    THEY FIPPINGWELL KNOW, ALREADY!

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  25. My Site (click to edit) says:
    February 11, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Ever been modded via these lovely rules?:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml

    We reserve the right to fail comments which…
    Are considered likely to disrupt, provoke, attack or offend othersAre racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionableContain swear words or other language likely to offend

    Well, it seems there are rules that are made to be broken, when it suits…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2012/02/the_harassment_of_bbc_persian.html?postId=111685709#comment_111685709

    108. At 19:26 10th Feb 2012, humsaeidxiii wrote:

    When a “Question” is asked and there is none there to hear it, do bears still sh*t in the woods?

    Truetoo, for someone as verbose as u, u seem a bit quite. Has the Persian cat got ur tongue? someone needs to stick up for Israel, I mean other than the BBC

    Don’t worry, u don’t have to speak french, if u don’t know any.

    This guy’s body of work is… a piece of work. Aunty seems cool, though. Pasted straight through. A new era of chillax free speech? Or just for those they like?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:05 pm

      That must be one of those “complaints from both sides” the BBC keeps saying is proof that they’re getting it about right on Israel.

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:
        February 12, 2012 at 9:31 am

        Interesting that he is now allowed to post a very odd, not working URL about some other doubtless antisemitic diatribe that they allow through and get surprised if those less empathetic to such views point it out for them.

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  26. My Site (click to edit) says:
    February 11, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Funny old world.

    SKY banging on this morning about China being upset at the terrorism of young Tibetans setting themselves, and only themselves on fire.

    The BBC being a wee bit more concerned at editting out the terrorism description of followers of the Religion of Peace being sent out by old men to blow as many others up as they can.

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  27. George R says:
    February 11, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Islam Not BBC (INBBC) religiously censoring Islam and JIHAD from its headlines.

    Compare and contrast reports 1.) and 2.).

    1,) ‘New York Post’:

    “Muslim extremist sentenced to life in prison for killing US airmen at Frankfurt Airport”

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/muslim_extremist_sentenced_airmen_ZWQPJBH20liKu0ALDFpTRO#ixzz1m4gInDOi

    2.) Islam Not BBC (INBBC):

    “Frankfurt airport gunman jailed for life”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16984066

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:10 pm

      Reading this just after MS(C2E)’s comment immediately above, the fact that the murderer says he was “radicalized” by jihadi videos he saw online begs the question: where are the Tibetans who’ve been similarly radicalized? Is their cause not as just, BBC?

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  28. Fred the Ted says:
    February 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Any chance of the BBC opening up the discussion on global warming and Greenpeace and the oil sands debate with a mention of this interview? 

    http://business.financialpost.com/2012/02/09/the-environmental-movement-has-lost-its-way/?__lsa=ab6c01cd

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  29. As I See It says:
    February 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Gavin Esler’s BBC Dateline London

    All four guest panelists agree Britain should give the Falkland Islands to Argentina.

    Nice. I’m sure that represents a good reflection of the UK public opinion.

    Now how much is that licence fee?

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      February 11, 2012 at 5:43 pm

      “A total of 255 British men and women were killed during the Falklands War.”  
      http://britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/roh.html  
       
      So what do we tell their relatives? Sorry but we don’t care about your friends and family who gave their lives for the Falkland Islands.

      A new memorial to be set up in Port Stanley
      “Here lie the liberators of the Falklands Islands 1982, Everyone of them died for nothing”

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    • wild says:
      February 11, 2012 at 6:27 pm

      Argentina has no valid claim over the Falkland Islands. This is obvious to anybody (especially somebody from Argentina) who looks at the evidence. The UK would have a stronger legal case if it claimed the French province of Anjou for the British crown.

      If all four journalists (who are invited by the BBC to discuss the issue) declare that they want the victory of Argentina, this tells us only one thing, they hate Britain.

      They cannot say, well we have looked at the evidence and we think that Argentina has the stronger legal claim, because the evidence is not there to justify it.

      They cannot say, because we are democrats we are seeking to follow the wishes of the Islanders, because as far as I can see not a single person who lives on the Islands wants to be invaded by Argentina.

      How about the moral case? That might is right and Argentina is much closer hardly amounts to a moral case. Rather the opposite.

      So why does the BBC make a programme in which all four of its guests are invited to sit around and hate Britain, to support force rather than justice, and come out in favour of tyranny rather than freedom?

      What does it tell us?

      It tells us that in 1940 the BBC would have invited four journalists to sit around a table in London in order that they can explain to us why we should capitulate to Germany.

      What does that tell us about the BBC?

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    • Span Ows says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:28 pm

      Who were the guests? I intend to write to them.

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      • wild says:
        February 12, 2012 at 12:02 am

        Steve Richards, is chief political correspondent of the “Independent” newspaper

        Saul Zadka is a Leftist Israeli Journalist who writes for Al London.

        Nabila Ramdani is a Muslim Algerian writer who writes for The Guardian.

        Michael Goldfarb is a Democrat supporting American journalist who works for Global Post.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 12, 2012 at 9:37 am

      ‘All four guest panelists agree Britain should give the Falkland Islands to Argentina.  ‘

      Any chance of some one finding a URL link.

      I would like to ask my Newsnight chum, and complaints, and the Trust how this representative selection of UK public mood was arrived at, as with Paul Mason’s EU veto ‘views’.

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  30. cjhartnett says:
    February 11, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Just heard a bit of Any Questions.
    The Bideford court case has exercised the BBC….saying prayers at a Council meeting is todays litmus test for the BBC if we`re bound for the land of Lennon…but if we get Lenin, then that`s a start.
    Still-I would hope for a bit more imagination than Justin Webb this morning parroting to George Carey the BeebBullet Point that Medhi Hasan used on AQ last night.
    But at least we can see how the lefts Chinese Whispers agenda develops…what the Guardian/N.S writes for them…the BBCs ciphers will happily pass off as their own words.
    Desperate.

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  31. George R says:
    February 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    BBC-NUJ’s political agitation already on dole figures.

    Radio 5 is already publicising its political assault for next week as soon as the latest unemployment figures are out.

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  32. George R says:
    February 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    “The Left’s plot for Leveson.

    (by Damian Thompson)

    “You may have thought the Leveson inquiry was all about phone-hacking and the ethics of the gutter press. So did I, at first, and like everyone else I was appalled by some of the revelations. But the longer it goes on, the clearer it becomes that there is an unspoken understanding between liberal politicians, ‘ethically aware’ celebs and their allies in the BBC. These people want to eliminate the most effective opponent of Britain’s Left-wing establishment – the popular press. Without certain newspapers, outrageous acts of social engineering and taxpayer theft would go unreported. That’s what the likes of Chris Bryant want Leveson to deliver. I know it’s boring, but watch carefully.”

    [Scroll down.]

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100136738/doreens-story-the-heart-rending-truth-about-lazy-cow-syndrome/

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    • As I See It says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm

      Now that the News of the World has been eliminated by the BBC-Guardian axis, even the most casual of observers of the BBC must have noticed that they are now gunning for the Daily Mail.

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  33. cjhartnett says:
    February 11, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    I think that the BBC should be getting done for product placement every time that they mention the Daily Mail.
    Other newspapers surely are available aren`t they?…shouldn`t they have to say that every time they mention Dacres august organ (ooer Missus!)

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 12, 2012 at 9:07 am

      ‘for product placement every time that they mention the Daily Mail’

      I am intrigued about the discrepancy between the mentions about it, and not usually in a good way, and the poor representation of it in terms of ‘guests’, ‘reviewers’, commenters, etc.

      But one is sure the ABC ratings of such as the New Statesman mean that Mehdi & Laurie truly do speak for the nation by the logic of the market rates at the BBC.

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  34. Millie Tant says:
    February 11, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Just starting now on Radio 3, for anyone who likes a marathon:

    17:00 – 23:00
    Fabio Luisi conducts Wagner’s Gotterdammerung at the Metropolitan Opera, New York.

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    • Demon1001 says:
      February 11, 2012 at 5:44 pm

      Thanks for that.  missed the beginning but I know my favourite parts are still to come.

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  35. David Preiser (USA) says:
    February 11, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    You know your movement’s over when:

    ‘Occupy CPAC’ protesters paid $60 for the day (VIDEO)

    Protesters at Friday’s “Occupy CPAC” event, organized by AFL-CIO and the Occupy DC movement, told The Daily Caller that they were paid “sixty bucks a head” to protest outside the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.

    One protester told The DC that all the “Occupy” activists were being paid to protest, and that his union, Sheet Metal Workers Local 100, approached him about the money-making opportunity.

    The Occupiers, darlings of the BBC, are now exactly the kind of paid astroturfers guided by the hand of a national political organization, just like Kevin “Teabagger” Connolly said the Tea Party was in April 2009, and what Mark Mardell claimed in September 2011. Of course, back when “Teabagger” Connolly made his assessment, the Tea Party movement really was a spontaneous grassroots deal, and was just beginning to be a bandwagon on which national figures and organizations would jump. Even today, there are plenty of local groups around the country which do their own thing and are not run by think tanks in Washington, contrary to Mardell’s statement to the BBC CoJ. But you won’t ever hear a Beeboid saying such a thing about their little darlings.

    Big Unions and the Occupiers, hand-in-hand, attacking their political opponents. Who could have imagined? I thought these people wanted to take big money out of politics?

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  36. cjhartnett says:
    February 11, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    The BBC have just had nearly 20 minutes on the Evra-Suarez crap.
    The BBC specialise in dobbing in football morons with their spats and handbags…that we gave them Barton, Terry etc won`t do for the 24 hour never ending aimless controversies as stoked and kept simmering by the liberal media.
    Meanwhile Greece?…what of it?
    Only the political class could have turned football into a regular forum for grievances and girly bitching….the BBC are never happier than these shows of “correct attitudes”-and football is stupid to go along with it! 

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  37. Jeff Waters says:
    February 11, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Europe takes to streets over Acta

    SLIGHTLY misleading headline, methinks…

    Jeff

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  38. Jeff Waters says:
    February 11, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    ‘Twenty years ago this summer, Algeria’s Hassiba Boulmerka ran to victory at the Barcelona Olympics. Her achievement wasn’t just her country’s first Olympic gold – she showed women everywhere how they could overcome prejudice to achieve their goals.’

    – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16962799

    Some feminism brought to you by your politically neutral state broadcaster…

    Jeff

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  40. Jeff Waters says:
    February 11, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Handshake snub mars league clashIndeed it does, but the BBC might have jumped to the wrong conclusion about who the culprit was…

    Jeff

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    • Jeff Waters says:
      February 11, 2012 at 11:32 pm

      …and the MOTD coverage was as unbalanced as it was predictable!

      I think what possibly happened was that neither Suarez nor Evra wanted to fully commit to a handshake, in case the other didn’t reciprocate, and the opportunity was missed. 

      But as far as the BBC is concerned, Suarez was the aggressor and Evra the victim!

      Jeff

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      • Demon1001 says:
        February 11, 2012 at 11:41 pm

        Evra’s hand was out as it was with all the Liverpool players that had passed before Suarez, and all the others had taken the hand and shaken it.  Suarez clearly snubbed it.

        Maybe Evra over-reacted by grabbing his arm, and celebrating a win at the end (I thought all footballers celebrated winning matches, but you’re not allowed to do that against Liverpool apparently – I remember Gary Neville getting a hefty fine for doing the same thing!).  Maybe he was too near Suarez when he celebrated – possibly but I think he felt provoked by the non-handshake at the beginning.

        They are all paid shitloads of money and need to act like they deserve it. Having said that; the initial fault was with Suarez, but maybe it wasn’t helped later by Evra’s reaction.

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        • Jeff Waters says:
          February 12, 2012 at 9:34 am

          Demon

          I disagree.  If you watch that You Tube video, IMHO it seems neither player wanted to commit, as they weren’t sure if their handshake offer would be accepted.

          Jeff

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          • Demon1001 says:
            February 12, 2012 at 10:01 am

            Jeff, seen it many times.  Evra’s hand was out as it was for all the other Liverpool players who had shaken it.  The fault is on Suarez aided and abetted by his classless manager.

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    • DJ says:
      February 12, 2012 at 9:50 am

      Wait? Did someone mention racism in football?

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098325/Boss-footballs-anti-racism-group-branded-racist-calling-Asian-fan-coconut.html

      What are the odds of the BBC giving this the same coverage?

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      • Jeff Waters says:
        February 12, 2012 at 10:15 am

        DJ – I tweeted Lee Jasper to ask him if he condemned Piara Powar’s comment.  His reply:

        ‘no I do not the term is not racially offensive it’s a political point.’

        Unbelievable!

        Jeff

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  41. Jon S says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:28 am

    can you imagine how many reporters the BBC would send if there was a gay pride march in Kabul 

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 12, 2012 at 2:50 pm

      I’m still waiting for the BBC to do more than the one, very light touch, report on the vibrant homosexual culture of the Pashtuns. One would have thought this was exactly the kind of thing the BBC would be interested in as a way to show how Muslim cutlure isn’t all bad.

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  42. Ron Todd says:
    February 12, 2012 at 3:17 am

    Just got back from the factory and put the news on the BBC news channel is almost exclusively about the death of a drug addled pop singer. Is it cos she is black?

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    • Dez says:
      February 12, 2012 at 3:37 am

      “Is it cos she is black?”

      Brilliant comment Ron. Keep up the good work!

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    • Demon1001 says:
      February 12, 2012 at 9:01 am

      Two points on this:

      1. I can understand the BBC making an issue of this, although I’m not a particular fan, as she definitely had talent and was a big star in her time.  48 is no age and it’s still very sad despite being self-inflicted like Amy Winehouse.

      2. Shut up Dez.

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  43. jarwill101 says:
    February 12, 2012 at 8:11 am

      ‘Cause Newsnight’s here and the time is right for fighting in the street, boy.’ Well, that’s as long as the beeboids are spectators, possessed of suitably ‘nuanced opinions’, rather than direct participants. Which is not to say they’re not involved, as Peter Hitchens writes on his blog:
      ‘The BBC is working hard to get us to go to war in Syria. Its incessant coverage is – as it was in Libya & Egypt – mostly dim, partial & unquestioning…If there is a rebellion against a dictatorship, then it must, as far as the BBC is concerned, be noble. If a government defends itself against rebellion, it must, according to the BBC, be wrong.
      ‘Great slabs of history tell us that this is not necessarily so. In this case, I tremble for the fate of Syria’s Arab Christians if the Assad regime falls.’
      Thankfully, many people outside the BBC don’t still have Che Guevara’s cigar smoke in their eyes. They’ve grown up.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 12, 2012 at 9:24 am

      ‘Newsnight’s here and the time is right for fighting in the street’

      Beyond actual bunfights with bangs, Newsnight’s new Protest Editor, Paul Mason, seems keen to whip things up aomngst the barricades of Europe where he can, too.

      Quite what it all has to do with economics I am unclear on. 

      Maybe he’s just making sure Penny wears her scarf when she goes out in the colkd… to hurl abuse.

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      • jarwill101 says:
        February 12, 2012 at 10:58 am

          Yep, ‘Sandanista’ Mason needs to ease-up a little – he’s no Arab Spring Chicken, is he? Stair-lift to the top of the barricades, anyone? A yesterday man, clutching at any old ‘revolution’: like a tramp on meths. But Pauly, Pauly, you’re out of time. I can just about forgive adolescent idiocy, but this is bordering on the pathological. Somebody close should do the decent thing, & get him into the Castro-NKVD Secure Unit at the Maudsley Psychiatric Hospital. I mean, the poor bastard is constantly hearing ‘rebellions’ in his head.

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  44. Ron Todd says:
    February 12, 2012 at 10:01 am

    The big question discuss are  religions sexist. Which religions will be accused of sexism? Can take a good guess at one that wont be accused.

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    • RCE says:
      February 12, 2012 at 10:32 am

      Just tuned in… I see crosses… dog collars…  bit short on burkas and beards though!

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      • RCE says:
        February 12, 2012 at 10:33 am

        Hang on.. “Gonna talk about Islam in a minute”, says Gameshow Nikki!

        On the edge of my seat now…

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        • RCE says:
          February 12, 2012 at 10:43 am

          Ah.  Taj Hergey.  An advocate of BBC-endorsed ‘good Islam’.

          Pity Abu Qatada wasn’t available.  Or Anjem Chaudry.

          Nikki picked up on a very important point about the Koran though; if it is the immutable word of God how can it be so narrowly situational to the society in which it was ‘produced’?  Pity he didn’t follow that one through…

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          • Ron Todd says:
            February 12, 2012 at 10:49 am

            I think that it is to their credit that Islam was mentioned. the culture associated with Islam deserves wider and deeper coverage.

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            • RCE says:
              February 12, 2012 at 11:15 am

              But isn’t that rather the point, Ron?  Islam was indeed ‘mentioned’, thus ticking the box for balance; but ‘the culture associated’ was deftly avoided, thus avoiding the ‘wider and deeper coverage’ that you advocate!

              The production team will consider that a job well done.

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  45. Jeff Waters says:
    February 12, 2012 at 10:34 am

    BBC’s Weather Test washout: Bid to check accuracy of forecasts vanishes in storm of wrangling that no one predicted
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099922/BBCs-Weather-Test-washout-bid-check-accuracy-forecasts-vanishes-storm-wrangling-predicted.html#ixzz1mA8ci2TE

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  46. My Site (click to edit) says:
    February 12, 2012 at 11:10 am

    For all those who do battle with BBC complaints*:

    http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-02-12/

    *Just slapped one in on Gavin Esler’s Dateline Londion panel composition (cited earlier), which managed to all agree, with the chairman, that the British are wrong over the Falklands.

    Took a few goes to overcome 502 – Bad Gateway dropouts. Are tech issues going to be the next hurdle they throw in?

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    • As I See It says:
      February 12, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      Actually there is a wider point to made here.

      Dateline London views should come as no surprise. They came as no surprise to me – heavily tipped as they are towards non-British viewpoints and opinions.  

      I will bear this mind when I hear these supra-national commentators pontificate on other issues. You know what…? They may not have the British people’s best interests at heart.

      So for once a sincere thank you to the BBC is in order – for outing these anti-Brits.

      When they go on to big up the EU, the Arab Spring, Global Warming, Obama et al – I will recall the general thrust of their agenda.  

      Strange that their views fit so comfortably with an organisation that has the word British in its title.

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  47. George R says:
    February 12, 2012 at 11:13 am

    “The BBC ‘News Fixing’ Scandal and Dead Babies”

    BBC indicted in first part of this report:

    http://warisacrime.org/content/bbc-news-fixing-scandal-and-dead-babies

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 12, 2012 at 2:45 pm

      Is this not going to be seen by anyone in the UK?

      Still, I’d rather hear an apology for the BBC hiring a bunch of  partisan supporters of the President to do reports on US issues.

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  48. George R says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Oh dear, oh dear. INBBC’s Aleem MAQBOOL is in Islamabad spending our money expounding a politically censored version of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan history, excluding key references to ‘Islam’, ‘Jihad’, the sheltering of Bin Laden, the support for the Taliban, and Pakistan’s opposition to the West.  
     
    “A history of misfortune for Pakistani prime ministers”  
     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16991829      
     
     
    A non-INBBC view of Pakistan (2010):  
     
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/fitzgerald-what-to-do-about-pakistans-mistrust.html

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    • cjhartnett says:
      February 12, 2012 at 7:25 pm

      Yet again George….a great link!
      This Jihadwatch one needs reading and re-reading…it won`t be going out of fashion anytime soon>
      Thanks again>

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  49. George R says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Where’s INBBC human rights outrage over this Islamic extradition from Malaysia to Saudi Arabia?

    INBBC showed great concern for rights jihadist-supporting Abu Qatada recently; where’s its greater concern for this alleged critic of Islam?

    “Malaysia deports Saudi journalist Hamza Kashgari”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17001900

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    1.)

    Saudi committee calls for “harsh punitive measures” against author of “blasphemous” Twitter post

    2.)

    Saudis used Interpol’s “red notice” system to track down columnist who insulted Muhammad

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  50. deegee says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    It’s essentially a colour piece. Falkland Islands: A shortage of eggs By Allan Little BBC News, Falkland Islands.

    I can’t expect them to relate to Israel’s blockade of Gaza (One bad, one apparently neutral) but I would like to know why the Falklands don’t invest in Israeli agricultural technology, as in green houses and aquaponics for their fresh vegetables? There is no reason why an area about 60% 0f Wales (for the BBC that is apparently not much smaller) couldn’t produce food for 2,500 (Wikipedia says 3,140) can’t uitilise technology to grow their own?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm

      I stumbled across this yesterday. The message I got from it was that the Falklands are a lost cause. Nobody there seemed even to object to being punished by an international boycott.

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