Oh dear.
“The verdict is in and it isn’t good. The BBC’s coverage of the Thames Pageant has been trashed in today’s papers, and rightly so.
The Corporation has in the past set the benchmark for broadcasters around the world when it comes to covering great state occasions. Last year it did a superb job on the Royal Wedding, for example. But yesterday was a car crash, or rather a sinking with all hands. From the moment one of the BBC’s commentators referred to the Queen as “Her Royal Highness” you knew it was going to be a stinker.”
Richard Bacons coverage today was an absolute disgrace. All sneer and smarm and no cheer. Why use someone who hates the Royal family on these occasions?
I agree – if you’re unwilling to do justice to the occasion, then pass the job onto someone who is. We don’t need sycophants, but neither do we want snide party-poopers.
Indeed.
Rasher and his mates seem to have the ability to hold a magnifying glass to republicans and give the impression that their voice is equal to that of the VAST majority of people who would never hold that view.
Three cheers for Shelagh Fogarty though.
… and why on earth was he given seats behind the Royal Box and why did he feel the need to constantlyntweet about the Royals nervously applauding acts yesterday? He also then afterwards went into the Royal box and stole the cards for the Archbishop of Canterbury and others… Now, I’m not against any of that but the man’s hypocrisy and utter hatred of all that’s royal should preclude the imbecile from being within a mile of any member of the royal family in future.
What a scumbag
as soon as the bbc said it was going on strike during the royal celebrations i knew that it was going to be cr ap .
the same way that everytime the tories were holding conferences etc the bbc had “technical problems” although during the liebore conferences everything ran smoothly.
I hope people are getting the message about our state broadcaster but if you look at the people they want to run the country i think not. people say G.Brown/T.Bliar did a good job,that proves my point.
Tony Blair did more damage to this country than Adolf Hitler did in 6 years of war.
The BBC doesn’t moan about what a bad Prime Minister he was, but gets a dig in against Margaret Thatcher any chance it can.
yes, Adolf could only dream of what Blair, Brown, Campbell and Mandy were allowed to get away with
Did you read that platitude in The Daily Mail and actually believe it? I’m not quite sure if TB killed 6 million plus people. Google it.
Would have been better if they had striked.
or struck, even
…or pity they’re not stricken!
I’m surprised we haven’t had any complaints yet from offended ethnic minorities about the flying of Union Jacks. However, the Monarchy is the last untouchable bastion of patriotism – this, the entire Left-wing are painfully aware of, and therefore especially despise it so.
From my interpretation of the coverage I would say that those from the BBC involved in the programs probably couldn’t care less regards the Jubilee and so work through the motions, as it were. But at least they are covering it I suppose; when Liebour crawl back into office, they’ll have us celebrating a rainbow diversity festival or something.
I took my children to the street party up here and they had a lovely time – and so, I’m pleased to say, did everyone else; until, that is, a few drunken and unkempt republican/nationalist cretins appeared from the nearby pub in an attempt to spoil the festivities. Thankfully, the police removed them in haste and we were free to continue with our merry making and good humour. Occasions such as this, are one of few opportunities remaining folks where the majority can still feel comfortable in showing off their patriotism…a situation, unfortunately, that the BBC and the Guardian et al, have helped to make all too infrequent.
No complaints from offended minorities where I live Merlin. The local Sikh temple was decked out with bunting and red, white and blue balloons and they threw a party with free food for ALL the local residents. The nearby Hindu temple was festooned with Union flags , as was the West Indian church.
And the mosque? Sod all as far as I could see – there’s a shock.
Often those complaints come not from the minorities themselves, but from some white, self-appointed, lefty moaner who has taken it upon themselves to impart their own uppityness upon others. In the process, they paint the people they speak for with the same kind of intolerant and petty brush that colours their miserable lives. Hey, but they mean well, as always.
Local government diversity officers have got to find something to do with their worthless lives I suppose.
Wait, didn’t the BBC show a mosque or people from a local mosque who were supporting the Queen? So everyone can think their personal experience is a mere anecdote, don’t believe your lying eyes because the BBC has demonstrated Mohammedan support for the Jubilee.
How much did the beeb pay the mosque to do that?
I have thought about that Manchester mosque. The picture was quite blurred. Is it authentic? Or from the BBC collection of fake photos which appear from time to time. Maybe the Attenborough fake snow photographers were at work: climate change, Syrian rebels, multiculturalism, all within the left’s propaganda orbit.
The involvement in the coverage of that smug, snivelling lefty creep Sandi Toksvig pretty much epitomises the BBC’s attitude to the event: patronising and sneering in equal measure. An even bigger disgrace is that nobody will be called to account over it.
A dumpy little Danish lesbian, she ticks so many boxes it’s hardly surprising she’d never off the BBC.
Just seen Patten smirking away in the Royal Box at the pop concert this evening.
He should be shovelling raven guano at the Tower for presiding over the shambles that was the BBCs coverage from yesterday.
Maybe now people will see that we need the professional capabilities of Sky(and by the look of yesterday Channel 9 too) to show the useless Beeb how to do big events like this.
Scorchio!
Just seen Archbishop of Bearby waving his Union Flag. Hilarious.
My Guardianista friend is still here. ‘Look at Rowan Atkinson’ she laughs…Oops! Close! He’s come a long way since he was Trainee vicar of Betchworth in ‘Four Weddings and a Funeral’!
I noticed Rowan “gettin` down wid da kids” up in the Royal Box.
I looked around him-Patten, Cameron and the like…and then I thought of previous holders of their posts like Fisher, Lang, Churchill, Reith and Hill….and it showed me just how debauched and desperate our new “rulers and the great and good” are these days.
Compare the last Coronation in 52 to what we`ve seen the last few days.
Pop stars and leftie comedians certainly took precedence over the old lady with the ear plugs and a sick husband, as far as I could see.
And don`t get me started on the Queen in comparison to the coming wet lettuce of Islam.
It’s cos pop stars and ‘edgy’ comedians (HAH!) are what the beeberks think will get them in wiv da yoof, innit! At least that hopeless white ‘rapper’ Plan B(ollocks) wasn’t on the Jubilee stage
I would like to know who stuffed those comedians with their rude inanities to mouth off with, last night.
Now either
a) they are not funny in their own right and need someone to write that crap-so they have no judgement or manners, or
b) they actually ARE offensive ,jumped up little shits in their own right.
Mack, Hart and Kay were awful-Brydon was terrible…and Lenny Henry was just as we all know him to be…New Faces self-racist but who else would the BBC get to keep us all in 1973?
Rolf, Tom and Shirley had the natural dignity required…and Ronnie Corbett would have seen the likes of Mack off had he got the call.
And they wouldn’t keep us in 1973?
Was it really a technical hitch when they wrecked the singing of Rule Brittania?
Who was the ignorant Beeboid who referred to her as HRH rather than HM?
Bacon.
It must really be upsetting to all those Cultural Marxists at the BBC to have to celebrate how great our Royal Family and British culture is. All those Union Jacks everywhere and people being publically proud to be British.
Whether you are a theist or an atheist you know there is a natural order to things. The Cultural Marxist go against this and are trying to destroy it.
But they will fail and go the way of every other regime who tried to impose Marxism on humans. Marxism goes against the natural order.
I hope you are right but I see no sign of it dying out in my lifetime, in fact I see Cultural Marxism becoming more and more entrenched. Pretty soul destroying it is too.
Yeah, that’s why we need more and more blogs like this to beat the sh*t out of them.
Well said Earls Court!
Watching the Concert outside the palace on BBC 1 no bias
because they can’t get a word in.
Although Lenny still does the tired old race jokes. No wonder he went down the pan.
Lenny your not token anymore.
And was that Alexei Sayle I saw behind them all in a blue suit ans sky blue hat?
Hope not…really hope not!
I watched a few hours of the Thames pageant and was getting mighty peeved at hearing them mention it was raining every thirty seconds ! At times I felt as if there had been no preparation put in and they had nothing to talk about other than it was raining. The only bit I liked was the Horrible Histories section.
We had our village carnival today and the amount of patriotism, flag waving and lack of ethnic diversity would have given the BBC a massive heart attack ! 😎
The best part of the Concert was Charle’s speech at the end
The projections on the palace were very effective.
Loved it all. Madness were great. Will watch that again on catch up. I think the people who do the royals are not the same as do the likes of the Olympics.
Yes – I thought it all went well – the visuals on the palace when Madness were playing looked great! The fireworks were incredible, the lighting beautifully done…and the Mall always looks great on days like this. It’s when these Royal occasions occur that we prove we can still put on large scale public events. It gives me a little more hope that the Olympics won’t embarrass us internationally.
…and I thought the BBC’s coverage of tonight’s concert was very good – despite the slightly hurried ending for no apparent reason.
Mostly, I’m enjoy seeing the streets of our capital city thronging with polite, civilised, non-cynical and thoroughly decent people – in contrast to the aggressive, boorish, ill-mannered louts to which we’ve become accustomed during the plague of protests over recent years.
Yes. I thought it went well but the ending was rushed. The credits could have gone up after the fireworks had finished
The rain held off & the concert was fine, except for one gravely disturbing moment: Robbie Williams was announced but the singer bore a shocking resemblance to Evan Davis Junior from the Rat Pack over at Today. Felt the cold chill of sudden sobriety. As for the beeboid coverage of the pageant on Sunday – lamentable, sloppy, incompetent, a spectacular own goal: a massive fail at something they used to excel at. They even missed the Taliban Poetry Barge. Never mind, now they’re back on the School of Frankfurt 24/7 Indoctrination Loop. Their true function. For now.
Great show put on tonight. Well done Gary Barlow. Fireworks were awesome. Grace Jones and Stevie Wonder kept wishing the Oueen “happy birthday!”. Is there something I’m missing, I thought she was born in April? Surely they should have fact-checked first.
ITN has picked up on it. I was literally cringing when both Will I am and Stevie were shouting it down the microphone.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-06-04/confusion-as-concert-stars-wish-queen-happy-birthday-on-wrong-day/
“Happy Birthday Your Highness” Not one word of that right Will! Lol
FROM @SCHOFE ON TWITTER: (about 1 hour ago)
I thought that Paul Mac singing ‘Live and Let Die’ was a bit tactless at a concert for an 86 year old – wondered if Prince Charles had put him up to it.
The commentators hadn’t done their homework – Richard Dimbleby must be turning in his grave.
All those little Dunquerque boats dismissed in about 3 words. Surely with 1000 boats they must have found out something about some of them – and really all we had was Clare wotshername (nice lady but out of place) talking to the rowers in the galleon – what about who built it, why, how much did it cost, was it a copy of an old one? etc etc.
But boats are just floaty things that people used for something or other in the olden days! They all look the same, anyway! Carry on, nothing to see here!
Shame that the BBC were so keen to bring the concert broadcast to a close that they spoke, then ran the credits over the firework & music finale. They then showed a couple of BBC “adverts” before rushing to the next programme.
Why did the organisers decide to close with Beethoven’s 9th rather than British music? Was it to underline that our Queen and Country are subserviant to the EU and its anthem?
Is anyone else on license fee strike yet?
Naturally!
The usual drill when the BBC wants to drop a long-running, popular programme in the face of massive outcry is to radically alter the format – which is cynically passed off as trying reach a new audience – then shunt it around in the schedules, then quietly drop it.
The BBC couldn’t exactly drop the Diamond Jubilee, but their abysmal approach has shown that they’ve been broadcasting the whole thing through a combination of held noses and gritted teeth – presenting the events, but (metaphorically) sticking up two fingers to the viewing / listening audience.
This wasn’t mere incompetence, in other words, but a deliberate, and largely successful, attempt to sabotage the whole thing.
Their inept TV coverage has been well documented, both here and in the national press, but consider their radio output: R2 and R5’s coverage of the pageant yesterday was woeful – ill-informed commentators, little on the actual river event itself, and endless “celebrities” inarticulately talking to each other: pretty much a mirror of the TV coverage.
And apart from a couple of token church services, R4 and R3’s coverage has been non-existant.
And tonight’s coverage of the Buckingham Palace concert on R2 seemed to consist mostly of Terry Wogan reading out emails and texts from people, with the music kept firmly in the background. I couldn’t bear to listen for very long, so I never did find out if Wogan read out MY text and email begging him to just shut the fuck up so I could hear the music.
There never will be another event like this in the lifetime of anyone now living, anywhere on the planet, or for a very long time after, and I feel so depressed that the BBC just couldn’t resist the opportunity to be spoilsports.
Don’t forget Fearne Cotton talking to those old sailors in a most inappropriate manner – I half expected her to ask “So can you tell me what is like to see all your friends being blown up?”
Yes, I thought the old chap at the end of the line was going to throw her overboard at one point.
WTF don’t they just STFU and let people with some knowledge talk?
Didn’t see any of it, as I’m currently in darkest Europe. However, reading the comments on the DT leader critical of bbc coverage, one consistent theme is the superbly researched historical context of the vessels and office holders , present in the Sky coverage when compared to the inane drivel from minor beeboid ‘celebs’.
No doubt the guardian cif types will still ramble on about ‘bbc quality programmes’ !
There were two “jokes” last night from BBC “Comedians” one concerned Jeremy Hunt & text messages Quelle Surprise, the other concerned David Cameron & horses, amongst other snidey digs, have to say it was great, truly great to see Prince Charles put these state sponsored Leftists, sorry BBC “Comedians” in their place during his speech.
It was a great weekend for the Royal Family & The British people & a truly awful reputation shattering & humiliating weekend for The BBC, what more could one ask for ?! Fantastic.
It’s Tuesday morning and Nicky is out talking to the republicans demonstrating outside St Pauls.
So I go for sky news whilst listening to the few demonstrators that the BBC managed to find (for balance you understand) and they get some on the phone too.
The Turing test is truly redundant when most of the BBC presenters would fail it.
Not strictly true, if they were emulating cretins, I am sure they would pass with flying colours.
Nicky Campbell is at again this morning: ‘Are you proud to be British…?’
(or are you NOT proud to be British? – that is the ‘balancing’ idea left in the licence payer’s mind by Nicky to be, or not to BBC? Hamlet).
So the BBC dog whistle call goes out to all their true ideological followers, the fans of their 360 or so days a year carping and snide.
You know who they are: the Celtic separatists and curmudgeonly SNP referendum wouldbe ‘Aye’ voters from the Kingdom of Fife with hearts as cold and craggy as their native shore line;
the dusty backdated black and white and red all over Comrade Kite shop stewards of the Kingdom of 5th Column that once-upon-a-70s on a basis as regular as German and South Korean clockwork mothballed all our northern shops;
the drama workshop rightonster monsters of please-love-me-I’m-a-lefty-luvvie perhaps I’ll do edgy commedy for a Beeb sinecure syndrome;
the Oxbridge senior common room AV referendum rumpsters chomping at the Chomsky bit;
the gayly put out rainbow flag I-always-stand-up-for-the-Vietnamese-stroke-Brazilian-national-anthem all-nations-are-equal-please-don’t-beat-me brigade.
Oh, and not forgetting Presidential Heir Apparant Blair, Presidential Heir Presumptive Mandelson and of course Vice Prescott.
Even if the Scots leave the UK they will still be British as they live on Great Britain the largest of the British Isles.
Sorry to be off topic, but, has anyone else found that this site has been inaccessible a fair bit lately?
Yes I sometimes struggle to get on here.
Techie types: is this due to increased traffic/low server power or are we getting interfered with? Ooer Missus.
I couldn’t get the site between 7 and 9pm Monday -and for 5 mins at 9 was the only one here – no-one having posted for he previous two hours. I wondered if there might have been a DOS attack but nobody else seemed too bothered.
The BBC has led the pack at dumbing down the public taste and Sunday’s dismal spectacle was perfectly matched by the inanity of last night’s ‘star studded’ line-up of has-beens and BBC green roomers.
Was Sunday’s mincing, babbling male presenter the model for Armstrong and Miller’s camp royal ‘expert’? If not, they are psychic. And the raw boned dinosaur in the frock sitting next to him would have had me hiding behind the sofa when I was six.
But this is the BBC today. Frothy, gay, trivial, gossipy, lobotomised, celebrity obesessed and trapped in the self-referential Twitter bubble, where a lightweightt poseur like Stephen Fry occupies the space once inhabited by Betrand Russell.
As the wise colonials say: ‘nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.’
I’ve been watching Sky today , as indeed yesterday – it’s totally outclassed the BBC (of which I snatched a few glimpses for comparison’s sake) in every way. The Sky commentator today has a wonderfully mellifluous voice, and a sure grasp of historical and other interesting facts which inform his narrative yet do not overburden it. Full marks to Sky. Nobody used to cover great occasions better than the BBC. It’s crown, so to speak, has toppled …
Alistair Bruce (the Sky News commentator) excelled himself again over the last four days. He knows precisely when to remain silent and let the visuals tell the story, but is also very adept at punctuating the silence with brief historical details, providing answers to the right questions. Apparently, the twitter feeds of the Sky News presenters have been deluged with compliments from around the world, particularly in relation to Mr. Bruce’s input.
I think both ITV and Sky News hit the right note with their coverage. I only really saw the BBC’s coverage of the concert on Monday, which was very good, though I agree with many about the contributions from the so-called comedians, which often seemed deeply inappropriate for the occasion – not that I’m blaming the BBC for this.
http://skynews.skypressoffice.co.uk/biographies/special-correspondents/alastair-bruce-obe
Enjoyed this-well written sir!
So here I am watching the Queen at St Pauls’ and I noticed something hundreds of thousands of well-wishes for her Majesty and yet according to the bBC, the republic movement has an equal number of supporters as the the royalists..Really?
Then I noticed something really strange the bBC pointed out all these different heads of faith invited to St Pauls, but for some strange reason one faith (a peaceful one) was missing.
You’d think the bBC would have mentioned why?
The bBC, the traitors in our midst.
Oh yeah bBC wankers.
“God Save the Queen”
My wife and I were watching the day’s event from the comfort of our sofa in the Netherlands, we started watching the BBC coverage but the quality of the commentary was so poor we ended up watching the Dutch and German coverage which was vastly superior.
As a lover of all things British I could not understand why the BBC treated this once in a lifetime event as some sort of light entertainment programme, we wanted to learn more about the boats that formed the flotilla but gave up after yet another cutaway to some unknown celebrity who was discussing some unrelated topic.
I did though think the BBC redeemed itself somewhat with the excellent music event, although the comedians were truly awful with a repertoire of flat jokes, the comedian Lenny Henry? was terrible, as was the Welsh comedian and the Australian artist ( I could be wrong but I am sure he once sung a song parodying Led Zeppelin) seemed like a nice man but also looked out of his depth.
So my rating for the BBC coverage so far:
Sunday 4 / 10
Monday 7 / 10
Dutch TV scored
Sunday 7 / 10
Monday 7 / 10
Shameful is it not that the foreign broadcasters performed better than the BBC, and may I also point out that the Dutch and German media were not happy with the BBC as they kept apologising for the terrible programming.
Rustigjongens, Thank you for your comments, I used to live in Dusseldorf, so spent many a day In the Nederlands. A beautiful country filled with a wonderful people. (I’ve completed Nijmegen twice (no blisters) and the warm of the locals really astounded me )
Thank you.
Hi Pounce_uk,
Funny you should mention Nijmegen, here in Maastricht we try not to mention this place as both they and us both claim to be the oldest city in the Netherlands (even though we are almost 500 years older).
Next time you come to the Netherlands you should try the Maastricht running events (Marathon, half marathon and shorter courses) where you would be ensured of a even better reception than those Gelderlanders provided!
Of course I am joking and we like our younger cousins but our beer is better!
Now don’t you go dissing Rolf Harris he’s a God of Little Things and should be treasured.
His version of ‘Stairway to Heaven’ is not a parody, I know that’s hard to believe, but it is true.
He’s a children’s entertainer really not a comedian and is always out of depth at these things. He is well loved here despite being a Aussie.
He also is a talented artist and has done one of the best contemporary portraits of HM the Queen.
Hi Pah,
Thanks for providing the name of the artist, I followed your link and what a life this man seems to have had.
I will as an act of penance now go away and watch some YouTube videos of him singing.
Do try his version of Stairway to Heaven – he’s even played it at Glastonbury!
Ooooohh and it makes me wonder, 😕
How does it affect you blokes, ❓ Ooooohh and it makes us wonder. 🙂
Like I said, the man is a god.
I would also take great exception to the BBC producer who claims that the weather was the reason for such a disastrous day of broadcasting. My opinion is as follows:
The point is that the BBC which is the richest broadcaster in the world failed to live up to the reputation that you claim it has.
With the unbelievable resources available at its fingertips you would imagine that it could have employed presenters who knew what they were talking about, better usage of its outside broadcasting facilities etc.
Many supporters of the BBC make the point that the BBC is an organisation that is not run by the private sector and is world leading , that is not a valid argument as the BBC has a guaranteed income every year which is world leading and therefore seems to believe that it does not need to justify its coverage to its shareholders or in the case of the BBC the taxpayer who is required to pay a form of tax just to own a TV.
It should also be pointed out to you that it is because the BBC has such a dominant role in British broadcasting that it should be criticised when it fails to live up to the world class claims that you make on its behalf.
By the way I receive BBC1 & BBC2 as part of my normal Dutch cable package, I also pay an extra 200 euro a year to receive BBC3 & BBC4 this allows me to make my own opinion about the quality of the BBC programming, and let me tell you that BBC1 & BBC2 are full of antique, cooking and housing programmes, BBC3 is obviously geared for the younger audience and only BBC4 produces any programmes which come close to justifying your claims.
‘the BBC producer who claims that the weather was the reason for such a disastrous day of broadcasting.
A market rate talent of note, no doubt?
Thing is, did it only rain on Aunty’s parade, as it appears the others coped with much less ‘unique funding’ at their disposal.
All the Leftists at the BBC and in this country should really support the British Royal family.
Why should they?
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea since its founding has been run by the same family and now has its third generation running North Korea. That sounds like a royal family to me and a monarchy. That is a socialist state so if its alright for the British Leftists socialists comrades in North Korea it should ok in Great Britain.
From the Daily Telegraph report concerning criticism of the BBC I quote “The BBC defended its coverage. A [BBC] spokesman said: “We’re very proud of the quality and breadth of the BBC’s coverage of this extraordinary event.”
To translate: yes the coverage was rubbish but there’s bugger all you right-wing nobodies can do about it. Moreover, we’ve consulted our colleagues who were responsible for this shambles and we agree with them that, all things considered, we got it about right.
Lets face it. The BBC hate establishment but can’t see themselves as establishment.
Oh and bacons off on another republican rant. I would like to meet him.
Bacon is an Oxygen thief. He would be unemployable anywhere else apart from the BBC.
Self-loathing Polly Toynbee lastest column shows what its like to live in Cultural marxist ivory tower
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/31/queen-diamond-jublilee-why-celebrate
I couldn’t get beyond the title…
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Queen’s diamond jubilee: a vapid family and a mirage of nationhood. What’s to celebrate?
If the very idea of monarchy diminishes us, the living reality is much more humiliating and damaging to our country
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What a small, dreadful, miserable, poisonous, spiteful, sanctimonious, joyless,colourless, sour, mean-spirited sneering, po-faced human being.
…darling of the left.
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I’m a Republican myself but I just can’t handle the degree of self-loathing in this column. Seriously why not just emigrate to a country whose history and institutions you find more to your liking.
Wallop!
What an utterly disgusting, thick, sour scumbag Toynbee is. This is a new low for a supposedly serious (but barking mad) Newspaper.
Perhaps it’s now time to give the Guardian, and the hard left, a taste of their own medicine. Target and pressure those that buy advertising space in it, letting them know that their support for a Marxist ‘newspaper’ that nurtures such bitterness and negativity is not acceptable. That’ll just leave the BBC as their only advertiser.
Seen the latest sales figures? It’s on borrowed time. However we can all help hasten it’s demise by encouraging others not only to avoid buying the Guardian itself, but also to not use Autotrader to buy or sell cars.
That’s a good idea, i’ll hold my nose and wear dark glasses as i buy a copy, then stuff it in my bag out of sight, then get home, kettle on, or cork out, and write or e-mail every advertiser in there, telling them what i think of their patronage of such an anti-capitalist Marxist rag, stating i shall boycott any goods or services they provide and pass on the message. May not work, but they might think a bit before that next ad.
Maybe a salad tong protest-where those of us who choose to pick up the Graun use rubber gloves and salad tongs.
Clothes peg for the nose?..and maybe upload it as an Arts Council event.
Stuff the Pollygarchy…one spare gargoyle for a passing gondola going spare?
‘The first comment – with over 2000 recommends…’
There’s a thing… ‘closed for comments’ now too.
Propaganda backed by censorship is still obviously practiced in certain quarters, but I don’t think it’s having quite the desired effect.
Miserabilist contrarians may once have had an audience, but now it seems it is only a compelled one, and not always a happy or complaint one at that.
How uniquely entrenched the current situation will remain seems less certain.
I missed the Archbishop’s delivery at St. Pauls’ earlier. Mr. Witchell spoke of it briefly on the BBC 1 o’clock news just now – and focussed on only one quote – something about “ludicruos financial greed” or the like. Thanks for that – I’m sure that was the most appropriate one for the occasion, and there were no other quotes from the marxist muppet that would have been a more fitting reflection for a diamond jubilee address.
The Archbishop needs a style makeover. Hippy hairstyle, unkempt beard, hair growing out of his nose and ears. His eye brows are really creepy.
…an extra from Lord of The Rings. 🙂
I said the same things about him too Earls Court and then my son pointed out that he is a Druid. This did seem a bit of an odd comment and my son is prone to conspiracy theories so I Google’d the man. Oh dear I was wrong again, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Williams really is a Druid.
Apparently Druids have pagan roots about which little is known. Various recurring themes emerge in accounts of the druids, including that they performed human sacrifice and believed in a form of reincarnation.
Williams took part in anti-nuclear demonstrations at United States bases. In 1985, he was arrested as part of a protest organised by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament at Lakenheath. At this time he was a member of the left-wing Anglo-Catholic Jubilee Group. Williams objected to the proposed French law banning wearing of the hijab. He claimed “the United States wields its power in a way that is worse than Britain during its imperial heyday”. He compared Muslims in Britain to the Good Samaritans, praised the Muslim salah ritual of five prayers a day. Thanks to Wikipedia.
So, basically he is a nut case as well as scruffy.
He was appointed in 2003 during the Blair years.
Thanks for the info, but…
“He was appointed in 2003 during the Blair years.”
That was all we really needed to know.
Fine lagacy, Mr. Blair. 👿
Blair was crypto Catholic he was not going to want an effective leader for the established church.
I am not religious myself but would prefer the C of E to the alternative that the lefties seem determined to import into this country.
The next time he’s passing a barber’s shop he really should pop in. It’s amazing what they can do these days.
Tuned in today at lunch time, BBC coverage pretty uninspiring; thought I would try ITV. What a contrast with David Starkey, informative erudite great historical detail and with the other presenters wearing ties.
Quck switch back to BBC to see if any improvement, ”and now she is in a err, car with a err, wheel at each err, corner. Back to ITV, learnt where the word jubilee comes from, and that the main qualification for the lord Chamberlain is the abilty to walk backwards…more jems from Starkey.
I watched the coverage of the pageant on BBC yesterday, and although the commentary was pretty banal, I didn’t think it was that bad. But I watched SKY news today and was highly impressed with their better prepared and better informed coverage. Especially with Alistair whatever his name is who gave us details of the military background. The sort of thing the BBC used to do before deciding that guns are nasty and anti feminist.
Never mind the Jubilee, it’s all about the Olympics. BBC1 really are shameless. Perhaps Huw Edwards was on a quick comfort break touching up the orange makeup or practicing his sneer. They may not be able to go to a commercial break but the Beeb know how to fill dead air: Britain we have ways and means of making you love the Olympics, you boring old forelock tugging unreconstructed monarchists!
Meanwhile watch out Comrade Mason, Nicholas Witchell has just banged in his appilcation for economics editor at Newsnight with a quote from that font of all wisdom financial, that profound economics guru the Arch Bishop of Canterbury.
David Starkey on ITV has just choked on the emotion of the event but has recovered to say that people are there because they want to be, unlike North Korea, China, Russia or Nazi Germany where people are / were forced to turn out.
In three short words he sums up his beliefs, ‘I HATE COMMUNISM’
In those three short words he sums up why he is not on the BBC.
#88 Fantastic post, nail on head methinks, bravo
It was an emotional occasion, especially, as DS says, that it was a voluntary, unforced tribute. Indeed very moving.
Interesting point made by DS that England is the key to continuity, not Great Britain. He is right, but perhaps it wasn’t quite the occasion to air that thesis!
Starkey is, and always has been, right in his cutting and clear analysis of the world. Many times I have enjoyed seeing him speak the blatant truth (whilst simultaneously destroying the PC status-quo), and seen the shocked, indignant faces of self-righteous and unintelligent QT audience members and BBC panellists.
” indignant faces of self-righteous and unintelligent QT audience members”
The really worrying thing about them is that, the morning after QT, most of them are back in the classroom teaching your kids.
The public sector, after 13 years of Labour and PC orthodoxy, is as left-wing as they come, teachers included. Have you seen this video from Hackney. Truly astounding:
Child abuse! I’d call in social services, if they weren’t all right behind this kind of sinister indoctrination. Poor kids.
Its bad enough doing that for any politician. But especially for a champagne socialist racist.
Dear God, that’s so vile!
Saw that too! Then I flicked over to Sky News, where a young historian, who had taken over an hour and a half to walk down the length of the Mall, joined Eamonn Holmes in drawing a wonderful contrast between the warmth and happiness of this crowd as compared to last year’s riots and protests. Great stuff!
Curious why this was (not). I was watching the make-up of the people who made up this enthusiastic group of people. They were 99% ethnic Britons. There were a handful of equally enthusiastic Asians who looked liked they were of Indian origin, and some Chinese. In an hour I saw 9 efnics. Not one female in a hijab or male in a dress that I saw.
Any wonder then that this contrasted with last years riots. I mean, why would you even bover when you cannot even be rewarded with some free trainers or an HD TV. Come on. 🙂
BBC News 1605.
BBC, shocked at the amount of flag waving, seems to be talking down patriotism at very opportunity. They have started talking about “what has changed to make people want to wave the flag?”
The interviewee says:
” [Patriotism] tends to be really obsessed with winning, obessed with money, obsessed with power.”
What’s wrong with your nation winning, gaining wealth or power???
They did then concede that the Royal family represents something different, but they are now going on to try and portray this patriotism as a result of “hard economic times”.
My opinion is that people are just sick of being criticised for being patriotic (or as the BBC puts it -obsessed with winning, obessed with money, obsessed with power). The chance to show ones respect and love for their fellow countrymen has been jumped upon with full fervour.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The more the social Marxists and EU try to destroy our sense of identity, the more we’ll take it back.
Noted a fair bit of bunting now past its “use before” date.
Wonder it we could recycle it and hang the BBC creeps who have tried to turn this historic occasion into one of their farces?
Miranda Hart first please!
Having heard that alternative stations were so much better on their reporting of their celebrations I turned over to ITV with only the quick flick of a switch onto the BBC – which I think managed the lowest point ever today – Fern Cotton with a minor (?) popstar Paloma something or other with a table of naff memrobilia, no Paloma didn’t have any but she greatly admired the raspberry jelly in the shape of the queen’s head. Second lowest point was waiting for the queen to come out onto the balcony and Richard Bacon telling us what a wonderful year this will be for sport. There could have been other low points but I then stayed with ITV.
Richard Bacon represents the low point on any scale. A truly awful ‘broadcaster’.
Couldn’t agree more, ITV did a wonderful job today. No adverts and were delightfully happy and enthusiastic to be doing their work.
However, occasional flick overs to the BBC proved your point Deborah; they seemed to think the weekend has been some sort of wacky chore. Putting down Britain is what they do best at the BBC and they have been doing it for a very long time too. Thank goodness this site and many others are now opening up the truth on this supercilious and subversive Corporation.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/lady-warsi-jeremy-hunt-race-religion
Article that catches the BBC mindset like a bullseye on a dartboard.
So we’re supposed to think that Cameron and the Tory Party are all racist now?
David Starkey, Douglas Murray, Sean Gabb, there are “Great” British people out there arguing our side of the argument & for our country, religion & culture, but they are more disparate lone voices in the dark trying to speak out against an evil machine; State Sponsored Communism.
Looks as if the BBC are trying to censor all negative comments about their coverage on their website.
Diamond Jubilee: Thousands of beacons are lit around UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18297618
Scroll down and try to press all comments. It doesn’t work. It may be me, but the rest of the site works fine.
Funny as they advertise it as have your say.
‘Funny as they advertise it as have your say.”
Well it certainly closed PDQ, which usually means something ‘unique’ is afoot.
And yes, no access to the full set. I suspect the highest rated was ‘off narrative’.
…but they have the silent majority on their side. It’s on rare occassons such as these that the loud-hailers are wrestled from the mouths of the lefty whingers, and the real voice of Britain is heard for a change. I find thses events REALLY refreshing – they drown out Polly’s prattle and trample all over the Guardian’s precious sensibilites, and remind them that they are very much in the minority. It’s the real reason that the self-righteous left detest these occasions with such a passion – they are so lauded and revered within their own media bubble, but these mass celebrations serve as an eye-opener to just how marginalised their outlook really is.
Must be quite a shock to the system – hope they choke on their own bile!
…oops…in reply to Steve @4:28 pm.
The one thing the left hate is the real world, real people and reality. They know that they are outnumbered by at least 100/1 in the real world. All the Left have is there jealously and self-loathing of everything that gave them and gives them the life they have today in Western Society. All the Left can do is destroy not create anything good.
Thank you Earls Court, succinct and deadly accurate. Look at pathetic Whitman on these threads, negative, sneering and utterly without a point to his sad life.
Whereas everyone else is on a noble moral crusade, are they not? I do have a point to my life, as it goes, it’s just this has killed a couple of otherwise dull days.
And I resent the use of ‘succinct’ and ‘accurate’.
No – you perhaps resent that they WERE ‘succinct’ and ‘accurate’.
…and Earls’ Court’s post, to which those descriptions refer, made no mention of you, so no need for resentment, anyway. Unless you unwittingly recognized yourself in those words… 😉
Thank you Reed, thought Whitman would rise to a little baiting, and as usual, shot himself in the foot. He really is self-obsessed, typical left leaner. Hope you find a career with your language ‘skills’ Whit, mine are more technical and science based, and i’m retired. No dull days for me, in fact i’ve never had a dull day, with an active mind you can fill your day.
Meanwhile over at the BBC Points of View site the BBC are getting slated. Looks rather like a thread over at BBC Bias! Sky News get plenty of compliments.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/NF1951566?thread=8356731&skip=0
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/NF1951566?thread=8356169
And here’s another link on Points of View which looks at BBC bias from a slightly different perspective
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/NF1951566?thread=8357158
Beyond the comments, what was equally interesting was this:
‘This post has been temporarily hidden, because a moderator has referred it to a supervisor, BBC host or the Central Communities Team for a decision as to whether it contravenes the House Rules in some way. A decision will be made as quickly as possible..
I wonder, how temporary that will really be, and how quickly restored even if the referral is ‘found’ to be groundless?
Imagine the howls here if even a precious tirade, ad hom, cherry pick, OT, non-sequitur or cherry pick was removed, much less a fair point?
Of course the irony that their howls would also not get heard as they had been expedited into oblivion would not enter their pretty, little, empty heads.
First they came…
Looks like despite protestations to the contrary, the BBC has taken the criticisms to heart. Huw Edwards and Fiona Bruce were on today.
Still claiming you got it about right, ratings = quality, BBC?
The BBC’s days being funded by compulsary tax must come to an end. If the BBC is the worlds leading television organisation. Why did the Coverage on ITV, Sky etc make the BBC’s look so bad?
Lord Reith made the BBC a world leader and its being destroyed by a bunch of self-loathing Cultural Marxists.
They are destroying a whole lot more than just what used to be The BBC.
Christianity, The Judiciary, The Education System, The Police, I could go on all night……………………………….
Cultural Marxism, its in our genes.
All the left can do is destroy nothing else
Very obviously deliberate sabotage by a group of f-ing pinkoes.
Did anyone else hear Joanna Gosling announce the arrival at the concert of Prince William and Kate Middleton? She must have missed the wedding.
My sketchy impressions of the final day of this wonderful Jubilee long weekend (screw you, Polly & Co.!) are that the BBC’s coverage was, generally-speaking, much better today than their Sunday flotilla omnishambles.
Huw Edwards and his guests (even Naughtie) did a pretty decent job of covering the service at St. Paul’s and the other main events of the day.
The contrast with ITV (which I recorded and have been enjoying this evening) is that ITV allowed their viewers to SEE all the action, while the BBC kept flitting back to the studio to chat to Simon Schama or some other guest, or else leaping to another BBC presenter somewhere away from the main action.
I wanted to SEE as much of the historic comings and going at St. Paul’s and between the palace and the other main locations of today’s celebrations as I could. ITV allowed its viewers do that, continuously. The BBC failed to do so. Yes, they didn’t flit about and miss as much as they did so idiotically on Sunday, but they still failed to do what they ought to have done – simply give us an uninterrupted view (i.e. continuous live images) of the day’s historic events.
ITV found two ingenious, innovative methods (/sarc) to do this:
(a) keeping the focus on live images of the actual events as they occurred.
(b) using a split-screen effect where necessary.
Those radical innovations (/sarc) were obviously beyond the geniuses at the BBC!
Standards at the BBC plummeted when various celebrities – John Barrowman, Emma Bunton, etc – were drafted in by the BBC to fill in the gaps and Sunday’s failures were re-visited in yet more pointless celebrity-driven drivel from some BBC C-listers in St. James’s Park. Some of this was almost as infantile as Sunday BBC shenanigans.
ITV certainly wasn’t free of celebrities (Joan Collins was there, for example), but they mostly kept the focus on the participants – especially from the armed forces – and on the enthusiastic public. The BBC were much less interested in talking to members of the armed forces.
I had to grin at Huw Edwards spotting a couple of black children in the crowds in the Mall and immediately saying, “Celebrating diversity is part of what today has been about”. Hmm.
Also, the BBC cameramen conspicuously lingered – three times – on republican protesters (all twenty of them by the looks of it – and a right bunch of sour-faced sods they looked too). That said, the BBC commentators made no comment, so I suppose (to be fair) that they didn’t draw too much attention to this tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny bunch of protesters all in all. (Given how few there seemed to be that was probably very wise!)
I also prefer the way ITV covered the climactic balcony scene. The presenters stopped talking for long stretches and allowed their viewers to just watch and listen and form their own impressions as to what they were witnessing without having Terry Wogan or Huw Edwards chatting away or some other BBC guest telling us about how wonderful multi-culturalism is.
The BBC appears to have lost a lot of face here and abroad over their dismal coverage of the flotilla – and their blaming the weather for everything (presumably including the HRH blunder, the missing of the ‘wow’ moment of the Spirit of Chartwell passing under the open gates of Tower Bridge, Fearn Cotton’s toe-curling interview with the WW2 veteran, the unfunny comedians on the barge, the endless pointless flow of celebrities, etc, etc) doesn’t seem to have helped their case. Today will probably have helped them save a bit of face – but not that much.
P.S. God save the Queen!
OMFG, did Edwards really say that about celebrating diversity? He gave away the editorial directive, then: show as many minorities on screen as possible. Social Cohesion!
Seriously, how many people watching this were sitting their stewing over how black folks don’t support the Queen enough, requiring the BBC to do that?
Today, I admit that I’m not happy with the BBC. I watched the news channel for an hour today, and saw no intelligent debate on the issue. I watch channel 4 for 5 minutes and there was some debate. They weren’t trying to spoil the party, but it was debated maturely (ahem).
As New Statesman says:
“Like the Royal Wedding, the Jubilee is a convenient excuse for a certain type of people to try to impose their version of ‘tradition’ or ‘Britishness’ on the rest of us. Those who don’t feel the need to take part are cast as ‘unpatriotic’, or ‘anti-monarchist’, or simply ignored. The right-wing press have inevitably seized on the opportunity to tell us how much better everything with be if we just went back to 1952, but the worst offender has been the BBC. Never has Auntie felt more like a biased, state-controlled broadcaster than in the last few weeks, with its near-complete suppression of any dissenting voices.”
This is correct. The coverage has been totally biased, with no kind of debate, just various commentators praising the monarchy and the queen. It was nauseating, quite frankly, and I’m not too bothered whether we have a Queen or not. I see the benefits and the drawbacks, but it really has been sickeningly pro monarchists, save the odd snippets of coverage at odd times.
If you feel like that you could always set up a blog about BBC bias, Whitman. 😉
What a fantastic idea!
Oh and here’s the link for anyone interested.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/uk-politics/2012/06/real-meaning-jubilee
Written by Martin Robbins. I’m guessing this the same left wing nut job who also writes widly in the Guardian?
For balance, here’s a link to some of his lunacy:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/martin-robbins
How strange that the Left, always the first to claim it speaks for the masses, seems so bewildered when the masses hold an opinion of which it disapproves.
The fact is that the bitter little rump of republican Marxists in this country is in a tiny minority. If the BBC, however ineptly, for once reflected that, one can only conclude that it was because even it didn’t dare not to.
The left can’t understand why the majority hate multiculturalism. Think homosexuality is not normal but hetrosexuality is. Why most people believe in god a christian/jewish god not a Islamic Allah. Think if someone has done something wrong they should be punished. I think with immigration we should swap the leftists in this country with whatever country the immigrants came from. Especially the Islamic states the left is so in love with. See how they would last in Iran with all their Cultural Marxism.
Does this kind of rant help anybody? It’s pure nonsense for one thing. Right wingers here don’t like being typified, yet leftists are constantly shown as psychotic enemies of the state. It’s a democracy we live in, have your views but this is mental. If I’d written that about the right I’d be laughed out of town, rightly so.
The left constantly casts the right as psychotic enemies of the poor and of minorities. The left shows utter contempt for democracy and are thus enemies of the state and the people.
The Right is pro life and against abortion. The left supports abortion, the murder of unborn children. Makes you think.
What? This is just insanity. Saying that the left is against the state and enemies is tantamount to dictatorship, or a will for one. And Earls Court, just what? I thought the UK had got over this issue in mainstream politics.
You will find any religious person or religion will be against abortion. Most people are against abortion and will only accept it if the woman got pregnant from being raped. Or the pregancy is in dangering the womans life.
Left wing politics (Communism, Socialism – whatever you want to call it) is responsible for 150 million deaths worldwide over the last century – and counting.
Communism is, that’s quite distinct from the Labour party or even Socialism. You have to be alegre to draw a distinction between the two, because it is different. By your logic, right wing politics is responsible for at least 6 million deaths in the holocaust. Guernica and the Spanish civil war – I mean it’s just ridiculous.
And yes, but abortion’s not a political issue any longer, and thankfully, the church is not the policy maker in this country, parliament is, so this is a bit of a non-issue for most people. Often, like euthanasia, it’s kinder.
Another leftie who pretends to believe that the National Socialists, and their blatantly socialist policies are of the right. If you actually know anything about the socialism you support, you would know that the Nazi policies were very left wing. Even their murder of millions of innocent people was their sick belief in an ultimate form of eugenics – a policy beloved of the Left all the way up until 1945.
The Fabian Society which as always had the biggest say in the Labour parties direction believed in Eugenics and many of the legends of the Labour movement believe in it as such as the webbs.
Thank you Demon, not surprised that young Whit[less] thinks the Nazis were right-wingers. Its in the name Whit, Nazi Party, aka NSDAP, look it up. Hitler called himself a socialist on several occasions, in speeches. He may have raged against the Jews and the leftists in Russia, but leftist he was. Right-wingers want small government, and genuine power devolved to the people, not asking much.
It’s the official state broadcaster of the United Kingdom. There’s nothing in the Charter & Agreement which says the BBC must provide equal air time in its Jubilee broadcast to people who want no more Kings or Queens.
In fact, Page 9 of the Charter states the BBC’s Public Purposes as:
The Public Purposes of the BBC are as follows—(a)sustaining citizenship and civil society;(b)promoting education and learning;(c)stimulating creativity and cultural excellence;(d)representing the UK, its nations, regions and communities;
Sustaining citizenship surely doesn’t include encouraging the anti-monarchy crowd, considering the BBC has an officially Royal Charter. Likewise, the “K” in “UK” is another giveaway.
The whole editorial independence thing is about independence from the Government, not from the Monarchy. As for their impartiality remit, I bet that if you sent in a complaint about this, the response will be the same one people here get all the time: the BBC can’t be expected to provide balance in every broadcast, in every report, and you must really consider their broadcasting over the long term.
Seriously, we hear that a lot. Send in a complaint and see what happens. Honestly, I’d like to see the result. They might also tell you that the high viewer figures show they got it about right.
Now, I grant you that, according to all these complaints we’ve been hearing about, the BBC has definitely failed in some of the following (Pg. 10) this week: “the BBC’s mission to inform, educate and entertain”
I’d argue that it could fall under representing its nations, regions and communities. Either way it’s a poor show quite frankly, and I’m not going to complain, the BBC clearly has enough on its plate.
The BBC has form on deciding that they don’t have to give air time to “opponents of the consensus” on an issue. So if the consensus is to keep the Monarchy, the BBC doesn’t have to give time to the other side.
It’s usually good at giving both sides though.
No it isn’t.
That really isn’t true, you know. If it were, this blog wouldn’t exist.
You are arguing for coverage of an opinion so small it can scarcely be detected. We are arguing for a libertarian/Right balancing which represents the views of millions – not just a few New Statesman readers – and not even all of them!
I know you think it is, but that’s different to it actually being biased. I wonder, if the BBC were claimed to have a right wing bias, then would this blog exist under the same guise? My guess is not, as it’s not a campaign for balance at the BBC, it’s a campaign and forum for right wing views and for abolishing the BBC, which are quite distinct points from wanting balance. It’s a flaw, arguing from one thing to another, or arguing to a different conclusion in general.
You clearly don’t understand this site at all. The reason Right and libertarian leaning posters complain is because their views are wholly unrepresented by the broadcaster. This is not a matter of mere opinion, either, as weekly, for several years now, hard evidence has been presented which no amount of Left wing flannel and bluster has been able to dispel.
Crucially, the views are widely held, too, which is where they differ from the sophomoric rant of your New Statesman author.
Correction, none of it is hard evidence. I and others can read it totally different to a group dedicated to finding bias.
And it wasn’t a rant either, if you actually read it.
Whitman, correction to your correction. There are thousands, literally, of examples of left-wing bias reported on this blog alone. The fact you dismiss it is a reflection on your limitations, not on this very well documented blog.
“This is correct. The coverage has been totally biased, with no kind of debate, just various commentators praising the monarchy and the queen.”
You have a point, Whitman, my dear friend.
As a practising Satanist, I am absolutely appalled at the lack of air-time given to devil-worshippers every Christmas. Instead, it’s wall-to-wall jollity and stuff about Jesus, giving presents and eating turkey, and shit like that. Everything is pro-Christmas and the Devil and his supporters don’t get a word in edgeways.
Ach, mate. Just suck it up. You can take solace from the fact that you will be spared another 60th Jubilee unless you’re immortal. Which you may very well be.
The Jubilee has been a celebration: you know, one of those things to mark an important landmark or event, such as a wedding or a birthday; an occasion for happiness and partying.
Now, I may not be able to stand to sight of my Aunt Mabel but I am not going to lob sausage rolls at her during her 90th birthday party. That would be callous, disrespectful and entirely inappropriate; furthermore, I am not going to win many friends by abusing my Aunt Mabel in this way, am I?
Likewise, members of the Republican movement are not going to win many friends by crapping all over the Jubilee celebrations and mocking those who partake of them, are they?
Personally, I have paid little attention to the Jubilee events, although my kids have loved them. But unlike your rather dour New Statesman chappie, I haven’t felt alienated or unpatriotic. On the contrary, I feel rather pleased for Her Maj and I hope her hubby gets well soon.
I am not a fervent monarchist but I do kind of understand that 60 years as head of state is quite a feat and one worth celebrating; and I do appreciate that the Queen is held in very high regard across the globe.
But don’t worry – it’s all over now. You and your New Statesman chums can have your debate now.
I thought I said I’m not a Republican? And anyway, the debate on C4 wasn’t mocking anybody, the republican there, Owen Jones, said that he wasn’t there for that. Nobody was making fun of anyone, don’t worry. I thought it’d provide counterweight to those saying that there has been too much republican coverage.
I’ve met Owen Jones, nice person. But one of the lefts useful idiots. Looks nice, talks nice, not very bright. But he says the right things to make all the metro trendy leftys happy. I’ve read his book chavs, you should read it so you can see how one of the UK lefts useful idiots thinks.
Owen Jones is the latest darling of the BBC as you so rightly point out.
The last person who talked any common sense on the BBC was Starkey when he was up against that little gobshite and we have see the result; Starkey is ostracised by the filth at the top of the BBC and Jones allowed to carry on his inane socialist drivel unchallenged.
“But he says the right things” not if he’s talking to brillo pad he dont!
So your “counterweight” was just gainsaying, and not genuine opinion?
No, I genuinely think it, though I knew it would be shouted down. I’m glad you engaged though, you are reasonable where others just shout down the points or rant.
“I thought it’d provide counterweight to those saying that there has been too much republican coverage.”
Sorry, Whitman. I must have misunderstood you.
When you said “the coverage has been totally biased, with no kind of debate” and described it as “nauseating” and “sickeningly pro monarchists” I thought you were expressing a view, rather than providing “counterweight” to those claiming there had been too much Republican coverage.
My bad.
Incidentally, I didn’t claim you are a Republican.
I can sympathise with the Jubilee nay-sayers to some degree because only a few weeks from now, we will be forced to endure wall-to-wall Olympics coverage – a prospect l find profoundly depressing.
And that won’t only last 4 days.
I find them both irritating, don’t worry. Just hours of coverage saying how good the Queen’s been can get a little dull and inane, as the Olympic coverage will I’m sure.