THAT FINAL DEBATE…

Well, further to David’s post below, I was most interested in the final Presidential debate that took place in the wee small hours. I was intrigued to hear Mark Mardell inform the listening audience of BBC Today that the debate had no clear winner and that Romney has adopted “a softer position to persuade Americans that he is not a war monger”.  Interesting, Mark. Just wondering why you chose not to editorialise Obama adopting a position that deflected criticism of him being seen as “a weak kneed dhimmi” when it comes to foreign policy. Heaven forbid that there could be a “war monger” in the White House, right? Dhimmis, by contrast, seem welcome by the BBC.

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41 Responses to THAT FINAL DEBATE…

  1. The General says:

    Lack lustre display by both I would say. Too busy trying to throw out rehearsed spiel rather than show ability to react intuitively to each others statements and claims.

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  2. noggin says:

    as soon as you heard a bbc report this morning, the tone used was muted … that in itself says volumes

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  3. Selohesra says:

    I’m more relaxed about BBC pro-Obama bias than some of their other bias. I can’t see BBC coverage significantly impacting this election but their relentess efforts must have impacted UK elections over the years

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    • Hadda says:

      The are reduced to publishing this:

      BBC poll: Rest of world favours Obama

      Shame the rest of the world doesn’t get to vote, eh?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Aside from the fact that the BBC’s bias does turn members of the British public against the US, and will again if Romney wins, the BBC produces broadcasts and material targeted directly at the US. It’s far from being a parochial UK outlet.

      There’s BBC World News America, produced in and for the US, not to mention BBC World News, which is also broadcast in the US. Then we have the battalion of Beeboids working the US beat creating those “bespoke” video magazine pieces and innumerable online articles. All of this is aimed squarely at US eyeballs. They may not have any influence here yet, but boy do they want to.

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  4. As I See It says:

    ‘I’m more relaxed about BBC pro-Obama bias..’

    Afraid I’m not so relaxed. Anti-Republican BBC talking heads use their US political comment to get in cheap shots against the Conservatives at home.

    The bias is relentless.

    How much did this cost UK licence payers?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20008687

    “BBC poll: Rest of world favours Obama”

    “A BBC World Service opinion poll has found sharply higher overseas approval ratings for US President Barack Obama than Republican challenger Mitt Romney.”

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    • George R says:

      Given its global broadcasting empire, INBBC plays its own kind of attempted U.N role, with strong political representation for the Islamic block of countries.

      Of course, in any poll of Middle East Muslims, they favour dhimmi Obama over Romney; but it is not INBBC’s job to pander to those people.

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    • James says:

      “A BBC World Service opinion poll has found sharply higher overseas approval ratings for US President Barack Obama than Republican challenger Mitt Romney.”

      For that matter, how much of that anti-Romney/pro-Obama sentiment among those the BBC surveyed is *because of* the BBC’s own biased coverage in the first place? If they were neutral, I imagine the difference would at least be less dramatic than they report. The relentless Obama worship among foreign media will give them a big challenge in two weeks, trying to explain to their audience how The One failed!

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      • Framer says:

        What a waste of our money. As if one couldn’t tell you the result without squandering £10,000.
        Anti-Americanism and statism is cultivated across the globe by the BBC – except in the former communist countries where it doesn’t take.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The dopey Beeboids actually think we care about what the rest of the world thinks of us? LOL. Which country’s opinion am I supposed to respect? Answers on the back of a human rights report…..

      If any of those countries – or the BBC – don’t like us anymore if we spurn Him in favor of Romney like the Jews spurned Jesus in favor of Barabas, then I’m pretty sure most of us would consider that evidence of a job well done.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        Personally, I wouldn’t compare Barabas to Romney.

        On the whole, probably not the most edifying or helpful comparison you’ve just made.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Oh FFS hippie, I was obviously comparing those reacting negatively and not Barabas and Romney. Reading comprehension not taught in your church?

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          • hippiepooter says:

            Anger management not taught in your synagogue?

            I knew what you meant, and while I’m loathe to ‘take offence’, it’s very uncomfortable reading for me – it makes me wince – seeing a Jewish person imply that the Jews made the right choice in crucifying Jesus not Barrabas.

            Please note I am not using weasel terms like ‘Christianityphobia’.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Ergo, ‘Hey, you dumb yanks, you vote for Romney and we’re all going to hate you again’.

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  5. George R says:

    “CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER CALLS THE FINAL DEBATE: ‘IT’S UNEQUIVOCAL – ROMNEY WON’”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/charles-krauthammer-calls-the-final-debate-its-unequivocal-romney-won/

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  6. George R says:

    ‘Fox News’:-

    “Romney accuses president of ‘weakness’ abroad, as Obama calls rival ‘all over the map'”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/22/obama-romney-set-to-face-off-in-foreign-policy-debate-with-two-weeks-until/

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  7. Austen says:

    Such a shame that the BBC is letting the people of this country down so badly. They, more than any other broadcasting or media network have a responsibility to broadcast news impartially and time after time after time they fail. It is an ingrained bias and ‘all’ bias should to routed out….. but it will take a strong BBC Director General to do that…. and that is lacking.

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    • Chilli says:

      Indeed, having seen Entwhistle’s performance over the last few weeks I am reminded of Farage’s assessment of Rompuy:
      “all the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk”

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  8. chrisH says:

    Hope the Beeb continue to show that ” bit about the aircraft carriers” , supposed to show Obama slapping Romney down with rapier-like wit!
    To the BBC , this would be brilliant-to the rest of us its cringingly patronising, and stilted-which ought to bite back and slap the smug coat of many colours that is Barak Obama.
    Be great to see Romney win-he`s crap, but if it sends the BBC into mourning, then that`ll be grand by me!

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  9. Louis Robinson says:

    The problem for the pundits is that real people are having their say – people who haven’t read Mardell’s talking points or bathed in his prejudices. Here’s a very funny piece from the left leaning CBS who get an answer they don’t like and then try to deflect it. Enjoy:

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    • Nicked Emus says:

      These people are mentally ill.
      Don’t they realise that Obama is the second coming of Jesus Christ?
      I mean that last sentence in a metaphorical way. Seeing I’m a know it all Liberal/Left-wing person and won’t believe in Religion.
      Expect the religion of peace.
      ALLAH AKBAR

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  10. Louis Robinson says:

    One more thought:

    I think that the person who was waiting and ready to pounce, claiming that Romney gave the impression of being “a war monger” was – MARK MARDELL. Boy, he must be really pissed at Romney’s strategic decision to play it cool (a decision I hated because I wanted to see Obama squirm when grilled on his incompetence on Bengazi).

    The Democrats (and Mardell) were armed with their “warmonger” talking points. What evidence do I have?

    Late last night, I was listening to a New York radio station when a red-neck sounding guy from Georgia called in to a show and began to berate Romney for being- you guessed it – a “warmonger”. But he had obviously NOT watched the debate. The caller went ahead and called Romney a warmonger and then mentioned “Bush”, “Cheney”, “Rumsfeld”, “WMD” and – the real give away – “Halliburton”. I realized that this dumb cluck had been given his little sheet of paper with what the Democrats thought the talking points would have been. You could almost hear him reading the material. However, as we know, Romney deflected that line of attack by being so cool and calm, leaving the caller all at sea.

    I loved the bit where Obama said the US didn’t need a large navy because they now have aircraft carriers and submarines… (Carriers? Submarines? I see no ships?)

    I wasn’t a Romney supporter during the primaries but I have to admit he is showing signs of being really, really smart.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Yes, it is nonsense, isn’t it? Only the slightest of concerns from Mardell and the rest of them that the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate-in-Chief has taken war into more countries, killed loads of innocents in the process, yet He’s not a warmonger.

      The BBC and the Left-wing media are still fighting the last election.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Romney wasn’t my first choice either, which I guess doesn’t count for anything when I did’nt have a choice in the first place!

      Time will tell whether Romney’s ‘triagulation’ instead of ‘strangulation’ strategy will win the day.

      I guess if Romney was coming from behind in the last debate he may have decided he had nothing to lose by giving Obama the roasting he deserved over Bhengazi.

      There’s still two weeks to go, which as Wilson once said (no, Harold not Woodrow) “a week is a long time in politics”. Between the propaganda guns of the media blasting in Obama’s favour and ACORN (or should I say the sundry guises it now goes under) vote rigging, I think Obama will still clinch it.

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  11. David Lamb says:

    The BBC show the clip where Obama makes his joke about horses and bayonets, and presents it as a put down against Romney. The fact is that US soldiers in Afghanistan do use horses, and as members of the US Marines are pointing out, they are equipped with bayonets and are trained how to use them. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20037307

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand that a bayonet is always standard issue with a rifle?

      When Obama was criticising Romney for having no foreign policy experience, I wish he’d come back at Obama that he didn’t have foreign policy *or Government experience when he first stood and it still shows.

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  12. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    Talking of ‘war mongers’, could Mardell remind us how many people in the last four years have been assassinated on Obama’s orders, contrary to US and international law?
    Just because his murder weapon is remotely controlled from thousands of miles away doesn’t make it any more moral, or legal.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      He must have the highest body count of any Nobel Peace Prize laureate.

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  13. RCE says:

    I saw that Mardell and some bint I’d never heard of (that DC bureau is MASSIVE) called it a draw/points victory for Obama, and knew straight away that Romney had whooped ass.

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  14. George R says:

    Apparently, ‘leftist’ political bias extends to the fashion world too.

    -Not picked up by BBC-Democrat.

    ‘Daily Mail’:-

    “Has Anna Wintour banned designers from dressing Ann Romney? Why the fashion industry appears to be snubbing Mitt’s wife.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2222043/Has-Anna-Wintour-banned-designers-dressing-Ann-Romney-Why-fashion-industry-appears-snubbing-Mitts-wife.html

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    • Demon says:

      The left are beyond pathetic and petty.

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    • Demon says:

      Along with Galiano’s overt and disgusting anti-semitism (that his luvvie clients, with one notable exception, obviously found no fault with) these left-wing designers are just plain awful.

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