Wonder if anyone else caught this debate on BBC Radio 4 concerning the oxymoronic concept “Open Borders”?
“In this week’s programme, Professor Sandel visits the heartland of America’s deep south, hosting a public discussion at the University of Dallas in Texas. He challenges ordinary Texans to consider the moral issues raised when it comes to controlling immigration and deciding who should be entitled to citizenship.
Texas has a long frontier with Mexico and the issue of immigration divides people sharply. A million people in Texas are “undocumented” living without immigration papers. Many Hispanic voters want immigration to be reformed and President Obama recently outlined initiatives aimed at this base. Mitt Romney, too, is reaching out to Hispanic voters but many in the Tea Party movement pull the Republicans in the other direction. They insist that the border must be closed and deportations must be stepped up.
Against this backdrop, our public audience will be asked: “how far should an open society go on accepting outsiders?” Michael Sandel weaves through these issues with the help of philosophers past and present.”
Struck me that Sandel was inherently pro the idea of “Open Borders” and it showed in how he conducted the debate but perhaps the MOST interesting aspect was when the Harvard Professor Sandel (sic) asked for a show of hands on who favoured Open Borders. There was a NARROW majority against this liberal proposition. In Texas. Now HOW did the BBC construct THAT audience??
I love mass immigration as long as its NIMBY.
Listening to this “discussion” it seemed to me that Michael Sandel was intent on pushing the debate in the direction that he wanted with the old “have you stopped beating your wife?” type of question.
When one of the audience refused to agree with him that the USA should operate an open borders policy his immediate response was to rephrase the question in such a way that she would have to agree with him or appear to be a bigot.
I love mass immigration as a Marxist..
The whites in this country won’t become Marxists and destroy the society I hate so much.
So me and the rest of my comrades will used immigration to get our Marxists state.
I hope when this happens I hope I don’t end up like my Marxist comrades did during the Iranian revolution.
I hope he does!
Thanks for link I found this ‘decleration’ on
gates of vienna
Moving I thought
Rightwing satirist Ramzpaul has copied it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLscze9Ny0&feature=player_embedded#!
Who are these people? They look suspiciously like Fascists. Although I understand their concerns and call for a referendum, if they are fascists they are as bad as those they are going against.
Your comment has received no likes, so what does that tell you? People all over Europe are sick to death of having forced mass immigration thrust upon them and their communities. Democracy does nothing for these people so they take direct action to highlight the problems ignored by politicians and the media.
In extreme times people take extreme measures. Look at the rise of Golden Dawn in Greece. They are doing alot worse to non-whites that calling them childish names on a football pitch. The police are helping them as well with attacks on the non-whites in their country.
France and Spain are starting to do the same things now. This will happen in this country soon.
I hope all you left-wing people realise your actions are going to kill billions before this is all finished.
When the SHTF the non-whites won’t want you and neither will the whites. want you lefty’s. I’d stay away from lamposts on that day.
The whole point of a liberal university education is to get the right politically correct attitude towards blacks and muslims and to live as far away as possible from them.
As the eloquent Jared Taylor explains
Jared Taylor discussing immigration
The Democrats changed Americas immigration in 1965 in the notorious Emmanuel Cellar / Ted Kennedy Act. Import millions of Third World immigrants because they vote Democrat.
Tony Blairs Labour party has copied this diabolical plan in Neathergate, importing 7 million immigrants into the UK and ” to rub the rightwing noses in diversity.”
That’ll be professor Sandel…Ed Miliband’s guru who spoke at the Labour Conference and whose ideas ‘inform’ Ed Miliband’s supposed policies?
‘We had an hour-long lecture from an American academic, Michael Sandel, bio-ethicist and political navel-gawper. Mr Sandel, who also teaches at Harvard, is Mr Miliband’s guru, his swami, his cerebral star
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Yes indeedy!-now is he Harvard or Yale?
Let`s hope the Mexican undocumented drug runners draw encouragement from this safe and pliant lefty, as they “fail to register” all those guns that Obama let them borrow awhile a few months back.
Has the good safe Prof SEEN the decapitations, the hideously tortured hanged bodies of narcos/anti-narcos strewn all along the border from Monterrey to Tijuana etc?
Obamas “Open Borders for refugee guns” gave us Fast and Furious-now why hasn`t anyone hung THAT in Ciudad Juarez round his pot addled head?
Ah, but-more Mexicalis please….and destroy the USA freom its southern borders!
Sandel is just Paul Gambaccini without the record collection-no wonder Marxist spawn like Miliband revere him!
here is an excellent speech about the most discriminated portion of our society, an excellent retort against purveyors of pap like sandal,
the q&a session has almost every cliche used
by proponents of his ideal … and is ruthlessly exposed, and answered (from 30 mins)
I don’t bother watching videos like this, as I know exactly what happens. A bunch of bores queuing up to whine about slavery and oppression by The White Man 200 years ago, peppered with, from the crowd, liberal helpings of “mmm hmm, daaamn right, ya’ll”. I expect he gets escorted from the building by security guards? Total bollocks.
well you should … if only to equate it to
the likes of the drivel being churned out AGAIN! …
this morning on bbc 5live your call
about the setting up of the black footballers union, you will hear exactly the same cliches,
AGAIN! …
al bbc trumpets so called discrimination by being horrified at the thought of a white footballers union …
the double standard is patently absurd
and is in and of itself discriminatory.
it is as mr taylor states it is easy for him to debate because he points outs
fact and truth.
As I said, I know exactly what the positions are, so I don’t need to watch it. I have better things to do.
Oh yes….they’re not ‘illegal immigrants’…I believe Sandel referred to them as ‘undocumented immigrants’.
Interesting choice of words.
That’s the whole problem with the BBC’s reporting on this topic. They refuse to admit that some people might just object to the illegal part and would actually not care if non-whites came in legally. It’s a big difference between what’s happened in Britain and the in the US, and to conflate the two as the BBC is dishonest and defamatory towards those who object to illegal behavior.
The BBC hired Franz Strasser to do a whole series of reports on immigration in the US. Several installments, and not once did he use the word “illegal”, despite the fact that two reports were from so-called “Sanctuary Cities” which deliberately flout the law and harbor illegals.
The courts are using 10,000 translators a month due to all the Third World criminals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221669/Courts-need-10-000-translators-month-service-failing-provide-linguists-cases.html
And most of them are Third Worlders too. What a nice little earner for them! No wonder Third Worlders already here are keen to see more of their countrymen arrive – it all means new well paid jobs for them, as translators, bilingual assistants in schools, social workers, ‘community’ workers, etc
It’s funny… has anyone else noticed that whenever the BBC discuss immigration, the audience members, no matter the locale, all seem to have the same posh, middle-class Knightsbridge accents and the same dress sense: Afghan scarf, designer stubble and oldschool NHS glasses. Mind you, when one peruses their QT application form, it doesn’t seem to be pushing the boundaries of postulation to surmise that the audiences are most probably hand-picked with a certain political preference in mind.
Of course they are – they have actually admitted so, although purportedly to ensure *balance*.