228 Responses to THURSDAY OPEN THREAD…

  1. will says:

    Sherlock’ star Benedict Cumberbatch has shocked fans by marrying two men in a ceremony.

    But the actor hasn’t entered into a legalised three way marriage (that would be silly, and besides, he’s very heterosexual)

    Why would that be “silly”?

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Steady now, that sort of thing won’t be on the ‘progressive’ agenda for at least 5-10 years. Do get with the program.

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    • pah says:

      So, is it possible to be a partner in a marriage and a civil partnership or is that legally bigamy?

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    • Mat says:

      ‘He is also a supporter of Dramatic Need, a charity that promotes creative expression as a tool for conflict resolution, social development, gender empowerment and the assimilation of health messages in underprivileged communities’
      This tells me all I need to know about uber lurvie Cumberbatch what ever his talents his belief that you can mime your way out of a war has got to rank as the best plan for an early Darwin award yet !

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      • chrisH says:

        Sod red Nose and Comic Relief!
        I`m about to knock out a prisoners teeth and give the proceeds of my charity stunt to “Dramatic Need”.
        Hope to see a chain of DN shops carpeting northern town high streets very soon.
        The charity of choice for Will Selfs drug mules ( now in need of work, so I understand)to support surely!

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  2. Bodo says:

    Article in today’s Telegraph about a half million pound payout to Peter Fincham, former controller of BBC one who left after the controversial “Queen storming out” faked documentary scene.

    It’s not just the obscene payout for failure that is so annoying, it’s the secrecy. BBC refused to give any details of severance deals at the time quoting all sorts of lame excuses. And they are still refusing to comment.

    And all this as the BBC tries to claim it is more transparent and accountable than ever before.

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    • Dave s says:

      I really love BBCeconomics. Where do you go to study it? Do they do courses?
      Send our leaders and shakers on one and this country will be back on it’s feet in no time.

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      • Scummy Leftard run BBC says:

        Sleep with a couple of Eds – that gives you all the knowledge to understand and spout economics.

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      • chrisH says:

        You said it sir!
        A mere “shaker” of the money tree…and “moving” your money to Jimmy Carrs accountant, via Jimmy Saviles laundry basket.
        Maybe we here at the University of Wessex( Institute of Studies and Soft Sciences) need to set up the BBC modules of truth…the five pillars of Blessings and Nice Truths, in effect.
        Tuition fees?…maybe an honesty box eh, for those honest truthful hacks at the BBC

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    • johnnythefish says:

      The BBC refused to divulge the information because it would compromise their independence. Well guess what, Beeboids, here’s one licence fee payer who would like to know. And Guess What 2 – you’re not effing independent.

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      Peter Fincham is the same man who revealed this little snippet about the BBC:

      The BBC chief who handed Jonathan Ross his infamous £18million contract was told he would ‘struggle to spend’ his channel’s budget.

      Peter Fincham, who ran BBC 1 for two years, described the role as a ‘lovely job because … you are given, bluntly, quite a lot of money to spend’.

      He revealed that soon after taking over the channel in 2005, a senior accountant informed him that it was getting far more licence fee cash than it needed.

      Mr Fincham, now in charge of ITV’s programming, admitted to Richard Bacon on Radio 5 Live that he had initially struggled to comprehend the finances involved with controlling BBC1, which costs £1.4billion a year to run.

      He said: ‘The most memorable words said to me in my whole time at the BBC were in my very first few days when I was being talked through the budget, and I was very new to it and I didn’t really understand how it worked.

      ‘I was talked through it, and I said to my finance manager, “Well, I can’t really take all that in at one go, but just answer me one question – is it enough?” and she said, “Oh Peter! You’ll struggle to spend it”. I remembered that as long as I was at the BBC.’

      Clearly the BBC found a way to spend it when he left too.

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  3. AsISeeIt says:

    Pleased to see that the BBC is doing all it can to deal with staff on the basis of merit and merit alone….

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/one-in-and-one-out-on-the-today-programme-8729825.html

    Mishal Husain’s promotion to the Today programme has been widely welcomed but is concerning her fellow presenters. Her arrival in September will mean there are six Today presenters — and one of them is almost certainly going to have to leave.

    Veteran Jim Naughtie is being sent to Scotland temporarily next year to cover the Scottish independence referendum, making room for Husain in the process. He has made it clear that he expects to return as normal after the vote has been held in the autumn but there will be too many presenters and not enough shifts.

    “Both of the women are safe,” says my source. “There is no way in the current climate the BBC could be seen to be dismissing a female presenter. That means either John Humphrys retires, Jim doesn’t come back, or they push Evan Davis or Justin Webb out of the way. There is no way all of them can stay.”

    Humphrys, 70 next month, has worked on Today since 1987. Last time his contract was renewed it was for nine months only, meaning it expires in December. Many will hope that he is not a casualty of Husain’s promotion but if not him, who?

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    • Banquosghost says:

      Lets hope its Evan Davis, the bias from Today shines through in all things but his sneery tone really makes me want to throw the radio out of the window. Five minutes of him deconstructing anything positive into a negative winds me up!

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    • NotaSheep says:

      Please use Jim Naughtie’s full name – James “If we win the election” Naughtie.

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      • Andrew says:

        Yes, certainly not “Jim” because he is no friend of mine or this country, so better “James” or “Mr Naughtie” or just “Naughtie” as in ‘naughty boy’.

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    • Mat says:

      I think they should adopt the system used in Terry Pratchett’s books of ‘dead mans shoes ‘ one because they have a soft spot for Terry’s views on euthanasia so getting the nod won’t be a problem and two it would make for great radio just think of the hours of fun and anticipation for the next one to be bumped [calm down Evan’s Minor I said bumped !!] off !

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    • Ken Hall says:

      Oh I love the schadenfreude of the BBC PC brigade, who have sneeringly and arrogantly thrust their PC credentials down the throat of the nation for years, biting their own long-term presenters in the ass.

      I hope that other white heterosexual males at the BBC, (if there are any left), grow a pair and start fighting back against the anti-meritocratic, divisive and bigoted PC ruleset.

      Better still, scrap the whole BBC. It is a cesspit of politically correct hate and bile aimed squarely at white middle-class heterosexual males.

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    • chrisH says:

      James Naughtie-the BBCs choice for “the King of Scotland”.
      bet they wish they`d have had Idi Amin imposed on them…there`d be a bit of comedy, and a lot less Book Clubs and tartan shortbread tins at the Royal Opera.
      Tartan cushion for wee Jim and his florid face….to be followed by swallowing a dictionary.
      I nominate Rhona Cameron for the Tartan Cushion…

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Oh, dear. I do hope this doesn’t mean people here were right after all about Husain’s elevation being related at least in part on her gender.

      I like that “in the current climate” notion. I guess in a “different time”, BBC senior management would have just patted her on the ass on her way out the door.

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    • Insert name says:

      If they finally shuffle Humphrys off his perch I don’t know what I’ll do to wake up of a morning. I’ve been listening to that gobshite for 20 years. He gets me so fighting mad with his idiocy, leftism and bias that my adrenaline gets me up.
      I might have to go back to drinking coffee.

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  4. #88 says:

    Just testing (for the past few days unable to post and join in the fun)

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    • Kyoto says:

      To spare Quisling Albaman the effort you are off-topic and have put forward no facts about bias at the Quisling Broadcasting Corporation!!!!!!

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      • Banquosghost says:

        And clearly are racist. Deny it I tell you, deny it!!!!! (is that the right amount of exclamations?)

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  5. Will all end in tears says:

    Did anybody catch the fragrant Burdon on 5 live this morning talking about “global warming” with her stooge (a fellow bbc comrade but his name escapes me)

    Despite the fact that has been no actual rise in recent years this doesn’t mean that AGW is a made up money spinning myth, good God no.

    It merely means there’s been a “stall” or some such vague explanation. And if you don’t believe just ask the “scientists”. They’ll tell you.

    As Burdon points out, the vast majority of “scientists” believe in global warming (er, evidence to back up such a generalised claim please Rachel).

    We were also told how sceptics (who number among those with no common sense by the way) would “pounce” on the new figures and how we must continue fighting the good fight lest our grandchildren’s future will be at risk.

    A less balanced, more overtly biased piece you could not fuckin wish for

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    • uncle bup says:

      BBC Light News™

      Did Rachel ‘Cacklin Rosie’ Burden really talk about Santiago de ‘Costela’ this morning.

      For once in yer life, woman, just pay, yer know, the slightest bit of attention.

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      • will says:

        The BBC’s breaking news ticker this morning had the line that Hague was expressing sympathy over the train crash in Southern Spain. –
        Is that a quote from a government press release or the BBC summary?

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    • Marsh says:

      I simply cannot listen to Burden anymore. She is thick as shit and so blatantly biased. All it does is get my day of to a very bad start.

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  6. ember2013 says:

    I know the current theory about yesterday’s Spanish train crash is driver error but I am a patient person and expect the BBC to link the catastrophe to the private sector, in some way.

    Or maybe they will blame the right of centre People’s Party (in power) for the catastrophe?

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    • RCE says:

      It’ll be austerity/cuts.

      No question.

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    • #88 says:

      That odious tit, Wilf Self, on QT many months back said that Britain’s privatised railway was less safe that it had been under BR (to the applause of the hand picked audience).

      I know that I am tempting fate, and heaven forbid we have an accident, but Self (as usual) was talking the sort of made-up bollocks that characterises the likes of he and Owen Jones.

      Academic studies and official reports show that Britain’s railways have never ever been safer.

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Few weeks back, Pete Waterman agreed 100% with you #88 and as I recall it was on the one show! Cue looks of horror from presenters.

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        • chrisH says:

          I saw this too!
          Waterman may have made crap records and put pop back fifty years-but I`d back him to get the trains working.
          Come on Pete-do The Locomotion properly this time please!

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  7. Sinniberg says:

    The UK economy has grown by 0.6% in the three months to June.

    BBC Breakfast covered it this morning but even I found the introduction to the report very sneering.

    And what type of company did they visit and use report on the issue?. An exporter of machinery perhaps, or an expanding IT business?.

    No, it was a Nestle chocolate factory…….

    You couldn’t make it up.

    Nevertheless, both men interviewed still managed to burst the BBC bubble because they spoke very eloquently and positively about how the UK economy is indeed recovering and growing.

    The poor reporter look flumoxed then became more intersted in the bars of Kit-Kat flowing past her.

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    • Scummy Leftard run BBC says:

      She’s so lightweight I expect they’ve sown lead weights into her pockets to keep her close to the ground.

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  8. AsISeeIt says:

    Left-leaning BBC presenter Shelagh Fogarty in one of those little ‘miss-speak’ incidents that say far more than any number of protestations of balance.

    At first it sounds rather like a BBC/Labour Party in-house stategy and tactics debate….

    In conversation with John Pienaar about the good economic indicators the BBC 5 Live political editor says that Ed Balls is going to have to alter his ‘vocabulary’ on the economy and ‘give the Chacellor some credit’. Otherwise he will begin to sound ‘churlish’.

    Our Shelagh agrees and muses ‘He will sound as though he doesn’t want the economy to improve – which certainly isn’t the case!’

    Really Shelagh? So we have your word for that do we?

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    • Stewart says:

      He probably told her so -over a bottle of shiraz

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    • uncle bup says:

      Fogerty has the awful habit of giving a little chuckle just to let yer know that one of her witty little apercus is on its way. Unfortunately the needle my Chuckleometer doesn’t even twitch.

      She learned it off ‘BOOM’ Bacon.

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  9. #88 says:

    Back to the royal baby for a moment, laugh-a-minute Gameshow, in one of his riotous handovers on Tuesday, suggested the public should be able to ring in with their suggestions for the name of the royal baby. ‘We pay for IT, can’t we choose the name?’ He says in true leftie fashion.

    ‘IT?’. I know the baby hasn’t been everyone’s cup of tea but ‘him’ might have been a lot more respectful than ‘IT’. But it’s the little things, those unguarded moments that say so much.

    Come to think of it Nicky, we pay for you too. Perhaps you’d allow us to ring in with suitable names for you.

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    • Mat says:

      Well if he was to refer to many new born’s as ‘it ‘ in the presence of the parents then the only thing getting named would be which hospital he want’s to end up in !

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Gameshow
      Panto
      Dame Nikki
      Baroness Tami-Grey Campbell
      Chucklehead
      Corpser-in-cheif
      Olympic Gamesmaker
      Fifth Wheelspinner
      Virgin fresher at the right-on uni wearing feminism badges
      He Left As I Joined (re Savile)
      We all thought he was a sex-less ecentric (ditto)
      I thought he might have been gay (ditto as the Savile story developed)
      Mohammmed is an old friend of mine

      And those are just for starters…..

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    • hadda says:

      We don’t pay anyway: the Royal Family’s income derives from the Crown Estate revenues, of which they get to keep only 18%, the rest going to the Treasury. That’s a tax rate of 82% — leftie heaven, you’d have thought . . .

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      • Albaman says:

        “There are three sources of funding for The Queen, or officials of the Royal Household acting on Her Majesty’s behalf, in both a public and private capacity.
        These are: the Sovereign Grant, the Privy Purse and The Queen’s personal wealth and income.”

        “The Crown Estate is not the personal property of the Monarch. It cannot be sold by the Monarch, nor do any profits from it go to the Sovereign.”

        “The Crown Estate is managed by an independent organisation, headed by a Board, and any profit from the Estate is paid every year to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers. The Treasury is effectively the principle Government stakeholder and is kept informed of the estate’s overall business plans and strategies.”

        http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Royalfinances/Sourcesoffunding/Overview.aspx

        From 1 April 2012, the Civil List and Grants-in-Aid were replaced by a single Sovereign Grant. This will be £31 million for 2012/13, and 15% of the surplus generated by the Crown Estate for 2013/14 onwards. The changes were introduced by the Sovereign Grant Act 2011.

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        • Stewart says:

          “The Crown Estate is not the personal property of the Monarch. It cannot be sold by the Monarch, nor do any profits from it go to the Sovereign.”
          But wasn’t that a deal struck in Victoria’s reign ,in return for which the state pays
          the ‘civil list’
          I have heard previously that the state (we) are the winners in that deal ,So in effect we don’t actually pay for them
          I’m not a monarchist and don’t claim to be an expert on the matter (frankly my dear… ) but for game show to make that comment is to ,say the least ,ironic

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          • Albaman says:

            Nothing to do with Victoria but then again this is bBBC so facts don’t really matter.

            “The Crown Estate as a whole dates back from the time of the Norman Conquest. In 1760, George III reached an agreement with the Government over the Estate. The Crown Lands would be managed on behalf of the Government and the surplus revenue would go to the Treasury. In return, the King would receive a fixed annual payment, which today we call the Civil List.”

            http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Royalfinances/CrownEstatesxyz.aspx

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            • Stewart says:

              “Nothing to do with Victoria but then again this is bBBC so facts don’t really matter.”
              Now now, don’t be churlish (Its unbecoming) I didn’t state it as a fact ,more as a question. But the substance of my point remains unchanged, does it not?

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        • Banquosghost says:

          And on queue, ignoring all of the bias as listed above here comes the troll, ignoring BBC bias to nitpick on something minor. Never let it be said the trolls on this site aren’t predictable.

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          • Albaman says:

            “………….. ignoring all of the bias as listed above………………….”

            You mean the many posts where the main aim seems to be to change someones name, the homophopic posts, the racist posts etc.

            Posts about perceived BBC bias are in the minority on this site.

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            • English teacher says:

              You don’t do irony do you Albaman?

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            • Banquosghost says:

              You can do better than that surely, just read upwards about BBC pay offs, not reporting on the hospital deaths scandal, Fogarty letting slip her political bias, the BBC’s efforts to downplay the rise in the economy. They’re just the ones I remember without scrolling back up.

              Piss poor trolling.

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            • AsISeeIt says:

              Albatrossman is just rehersing his reblican arguments. Call Richard Bacon at the BBC – he will be more than happy to talk to you.

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            • pah says:

              Haddock?

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        • Corran Horn says:

          Oh it’s woken up, and here was me thinking we were getting a day off from left wing prattle and the constant refrain of “This is bBBC so facts don’t really matter.” Looks like I was wrong.

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    • brett says:

      WE pay for the sodding bbbc nicky, how can we vote who WE want on it you soft twit.

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  10. uncle bup says:

    I’m currently reading Gone With The Wind.

    The ‘nigger’ count is about an average of three a page , ‘darkie’ about two a page, and ‘piccaninny’ about one a page.

    Expect not to hear it any time soon on Book At Bedtime. Instead you can watch Marcus Brigstocke’s series as he tries to shoehorn an edgy ‘cunt’ in.

    In Droidsville, you see, there’s edgy and there’s edgy.

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    • Banquosghost says:

      Can imagine the reaction of Beeboids when watching the Wire, the N word is used so often its background noise, I picture Albaman and his ilk watching the first episode in slack jawed horror, wondering who on Earth they can complain to.

      A fantastic series that doesn’t hide behind PC, the day the BBC shows it or something similar will be the day Satan is skating to work.

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Yes it’s a pity that British TV (and certainly not the beeb) could never ever make a programme like The Wire which over its 5 seasons excellently portrayed the lives of various Baltimore cops & criminals. But it was also so much more than that – more a sociopolitical commentary.

        The strange thing is that the project overall has an impeccable set of standard Guardian/BBC approved views. It’s just that the americans don’t always thrust pc-ness so quite fully in your face. The characters feel, real – it even has a dodgy democrat mayor and crooked senator.

        There are believable middle class black and white people trying to do the best they can in the circumstances, but despite the liberal themes I would think that anyone who watched the programme would go away thinking ‘thank christ I don’t live near black ghetto folk’.

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      • Gerard Fe says:

        Would that be The Wire, the HBO series screened in its entirety on BBC2 in 2009?

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    • pah says:

      as he tries to shoehorn an edgy ‘cunt’ in.

      As usual Frankie is doing it wrong. All that expensive education gone to waste eh?

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      • brett says:

        is brigstocke the edgy git that got shoehorned in, or one of the others?

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  11. imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

    look at this :
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23436960

    I thought that the stats released by ‘Tell Mama’ about the horrific hate abuse etc turned out to be mostly untrue or overblown. Anyway interesting comments on the article, the beeb must be furiously suppressing what they can but the tide is against them lol.

    Can you imagine a BBC article headlined :
    “How can we expel all Islamist extremists, or not let them in in the first place?”

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    • chrisH says:

      Tell Mama eh?
      Isn`t that …well…”racist”?
      I myself perceive it to be so, so under MacPherson rules, it clearly is.
      My images are of Uncle Bens wife up on a stool and waving her broom at Jerry the mouse!
      Dat Mama hmm?…knowarramsaying chile?
      Sorry-it`

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    • chrisH says:

      Tell Mama eh?
      Isn`t that …well…”racist”?
      I myself perceive it to be so, so under MacPherson rules, it clearly is.
      My images are of Uncle Bens wife up on a stool and waving her broom at Jerry the mouse!
      Dat Mama hmm?…knowarramsaying chile?
      Sorry-it`s racist shugga!
      Mama don`t lissen up at all, too busy yelling allah akhbar for her to be of any use.
      Those bloomers have Arabic script on, and are all black…azzascared now mama!

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    • Guest Who says:

      Given the topic of moderation is today in the frame, this comment, rated highly by fellow HYS posters, seems worthy of note:

      +132
      Comment number 312. DeeplyConcerned
      24TH JULY 2013 – 18:30
      hmmmm… 6 of the top 10 comments have been removed, whilst only 1 of the 20 most disliked comments has been removed.

      If you think:

      a) Britain is nation of culturally insensitive bigots then vote down

      or

      b) The BBC are trying to moderate what was always going to be a contentious and inflammatory issue to reflect their political correctness then vote up”

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      • The Beebinator says:

        al beeb must be horrified by the most recommended comments notwithstanding their censorship. i liked this one

        ” WhyMe44
        24th July 2013 – 21:02

        I want to live in a community that shares my beliefs and values.

        I want my grandchildren to be seen as the children of the community who collectively provide care and protection.

        If my community is overrun by others who do not share my beliefs and values then I have to move with my family.

        I’m a cockney who can’t go back ‘home’.

        he must be racist!

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        • Ken Hall says:

          I really found that one to be poignant and it is not just in the “multicultural melting pot” of London. (although the term melting pot denotes integration into a common culture, which does happen, there are specific communities which refuse to melt at all and insist on keeping their own barbaric, evil, cruel customs and doing everything they can to stop Brits from enjoying OUR own traditional culture” The BBC encourages those racist and bigoted Muslims be DENYING that the Brits even have a traditional culture at all!

          How sad is it that we are running a fruitless campaign to assist illegal immigrants (only the illegal therefore law-breaking ones mind) to go home, when there are Brits abroad who can never return home because of what those immigrants who refuse to integrate have done to their home neighbourhoods.

          Across whole swathes of the North from Lancashire across Yorkshire, there are neighbourhoods of formally peaceful, law abiding streets which have been turned into no-go areas for whites and where white girls are aggressively targetted, groomed and abused. White parents are being forced out for the safety of their children. Many not actually moving through an irrational fear of crime, but moving only after their family have been actively targetted.

          I know several mothers who are not racist at all and who (with the benefit of hindsight, foolishly) welcomed the immigrant followers of Islam into their neighbourhoods, never ever believing what horrors awaited them.

          To their cost, humiliation and shame, their “tolerant multicultural welcome” have been proved wrong. They can never return home.

          Not that the BBC would ever be interested in showing THEIR story.

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    • hadda says:

      Judging by the content of the comments threat, it looks like the moderators are on their lunch break. Definitely off-message.

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  12. uncle bup says:

    And finally, the fellow who read out the football scores on saturday afternoon has retired due to ill-health.

    Now this should really be a couple of paragraphs in Ariel magazine and that’s it, but the droids being so up themselves have to turn it into a BREAKING NEWS!!!! item, yadda saturday afternoons will never be the same again yadda.

    Droids – get out more ffs.

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    • chrisH says:

      Oh God-first ten minutes silence for the football season!
      The footballing family surely will need ten mins silence to get over this!

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    • johnnythefish says:

      At least he knew how to modulate his voice to fit the score, unlike some of the latter-day numpties whose random inflections would be better employed on ‘Yodelling’s Greatest Hits’.

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      • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

        I agree. One of the few bBBC employees who got the job because he was good at it, rather than fitting some weird notion of diversity or political leanings.

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        • chrisH says:

          Linton Kwesi Johnson or Darcus Howe please to read the footy scores…in that chilled-out “Ingalan` iz a Bitch” kinda way!
          I demand it…it`s my right you see!

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          • Cosmo says:

            Arkright. Mmmmmanchester United ssssix Mmmmmmanchester Ccccccity ffffffffive. Get your cloth Granville.

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            • Rufus McDufus says:

              Considering their inclusiveness and diversity, it’s amazing how few stutterers the BBC employs as announcers.

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  13. chrisH says:

    Gissa job !
    First day back on the dole, and Jenni Murray is all het up over the lack of women on bank notes!
    Yes-after FGM, after the Rochdale groomings, Savile/BBC, the Pakistani girl shot by the ROP…we really need to create REAL change-discuss REAL issues!
    Thank You Womans Hour…I`d put Tessa Jowell on those £3 notes…poor poppet let hubby do the mortgage fiddles at the breakfast bar, whilst she herself shopped for shoes…that both were sourced at Silvios yacht seemed not to bother her…it being mens stuff an` all!
    If only life were always this simple!

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Women on bank notes – the absolute pinnacle of PC tokenism….

      and of course the BBC love it!

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      • The Beebinator says:

        i wont be long before they want 4 fellas on the same bank note; Steven Lawrence, the Obamessiah, Trayvon Martin superimposed on a bigger portrait of the Nelson Mandela

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        • Llareggub says:

          Lawrence, he Obamessiah, Trayvon Martin, Mandela. You missed out St Duggan, patron Saint of rioters, whose inquiry will be objectively covered by the BBC next month.

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      • Albaman says:

        Nothing unusual in women being featured on Bank of England notes; after all the Queen appears on every denomination.

        Britannia and Elizabeth Fry have appeared on £5 notes.

        Florence Nightingale has appeared on the £10 note.

        Looks like this “PC tokenism” goes back quite a way!!

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        • Andy S. says:

          Albaman, Britannia is a fictional personage used as a symbol of Great Britain.

          Get a grip old boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!( are there enough exclamation marks?)

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        • Andrew says:

          Precisely, so why the fuss YET AGAIN on “Woman’s Hour” this morning from 10:00? There was triumphalism about Jane Austen’s selection and criticism of the last Governor of the BoE for not doing what he was told like a good little boy. With only three banknotes in wide circulation (£5, £10 & £20) the gender balance is most likely to be 2:1 in favour of males or 1:2 against … end of story!

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          • Cosmo says:

            It’s probably the wrong time of the month ( should call it PMT hour ). Jenni Murrey ‘s pension pot is several millions, all paid for by YOU. A good living to be earned fighting the gender war and playing the victim.

               19 likes

          • #88 says:

            I’ve seen the specimen note.

            She wasn’t a ‘looker’ that Jane Austen….I bet her dad told her it’d be better is she went into writing or something similar!

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            • AsISeeIt says:

              It was my understanding that we do not have an authenticated contemporary portrait of Ms Austen. The representation on the bank note will have to be a bit of a faked up artist’s impression. How fitting.

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        • chrisH says:

          Wow, you go some way out of your route to avoid the issues eh sir?
          Note-nothing about the Queen, or PC crap-it`s the fact that the BBC raise this pointless standard for the likes of you to rally round.
          It`s a symptom of the BBCs fixation with symbolism and posture politics-instead of the aforesaid FGM, Savile,Rochdale etc.
          It`s not an issue, just a sign of the BBC ability to raise a straw woman…corn dollies if you like.
          Now then-stand down Corporal Nitpicker…stop being so “obtuse”…for here at Shawshank, we get a bit eggy about it!

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          • Kyoto says:

            Wonder what the Jenni Slurry line would be if someone from the Religion of Peas complained that uncovered women on a banknote was an affront to their religious/cultural sensibilities.

            Would Jenni seek display her enlightened cultural sensitivities by agreeing to burka-up Jane Austen on the banknote, or would she scream them down with ‘F##k-o## you sexist pig’?

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            • chrisH says:

              Good idea here!
              Why CAN`T we draw burkas on the likes of Fry or Shirley Williams-or whoever gets on the banknotes?
              Would this not make our money halal?…and can I have the right to be paid only in solid dependable notes with blokes on them please?…I trust them more rather than moist-waif like creatures that wrote Mills and Boon stuuf for Victorians.
              Oh go on then-as long as its Barbara Cartland or Margaret Thatcher!
              It`s my right you know!

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              • Cosmo says:

                Jo Brand……… 20 of notes with her on will make you look like you’ve had a viagra.

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              • Jane Austen says:

                Regarding ChrisH’s curious remark: ‘I trust them rather more than moist-waif like creatures that wrote Mills and Boon stuuuf (sic) for Victorians’, I must point out that I departed this world in 1817. (Her Majesty Queen Victoria came to the throne in 1837.)

                As a conservative patriot, I feel some sympathy for the purpose of your ‘Biased BBC’. However, I must point out that many of your writers fall somewhat short of the gentility and gallantry that might encourage refined females to visit this part of this new ‘worldwide web’. References to my physical appearance (#88) struck me as in extremely bad taste. As for Cosmo, his allusion to the female reproductive system was indelicate in the extreme! My creations such as Fitzwilliam Darcy would never have behaved so! Look to your standards, gentlemen of England!

                you will hear from me again!

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                • chrisH says:

                  Sorry Jane!
                  Standards have dropped since your day…the typo`s are mine, and I crave indulgences forthwith!
                  Your case to get on, stay on a British bank note is proved.
                  After you!

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        • johnnythefish says:

          Well said, Albaman, but you forgot to conclude, ‘So these whingeing feminists need to shut the f*** up’.

             17 likes

    • Andy S. says:

      Any Labour harridan would look very appropriate pictured on the back of a “nine bob note”.

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    • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

      The bBBC must have a long list of candidates to be depicted on a nine-bob note.

         13 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        Wasn’t it ‘British jobs for Britsh workers’ Brown who dispatched Britannia down the memory hole?

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  14. George R says:

    “Daily Mail beats BBC to social care correction”

    http://fullfact.org/articles/Daily_Mail_cost_social_care_bbc_fails_correct_error-29074?

       14 likes

  15. George R says:

    “BBC’s ‘£500,000 pay-off to Queen-row boss Peter Fincham'”

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbcs-500000-payoff-to-queenrow-boss-peter-fincham-8731734.html

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  16. George R says:

    Crete murder.

    Two reports (after updates):-

    1. ‘Daily Mail’-

    “Pictured: Partying in the sun, the male model economics student charged with the ‘execution’ of a British teenager in Greek holiday resort”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2377479/Malia-stabbing-Myles-Litchmore-Dunbar-pictured-charged-execution-Tyrell-Matthews-Burton.html?ico=news^headlines

    2.) BBC-NUJ:-

    “Malia stabbing: People ‘upset’ after tourist’s death”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/23447001

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  17. johnnythefish says:

    Switched over to Jeremy Vine on the gym radio, having had enough of BBC and ITV lunchtime news.

    Mistake!

    Playing snippets of the voices of blokes called George – see if ‘Francis’ in the studio (no idea of his second name) can guess who they are and entertain us with his ‘views’.

    Obviously George Osbourne had just been sampled. Francis (paraphrased) ‘Well he sounds like a posh schoolboy doesn’t he? Very privileged. Of course his first name is really Gideon, which is even posher’. The irony of Francis’s own plummy voice is somehow lost in the procession of tumbleweed. I think he was also opining at the beginning that he wished he wasn’t chancellor, but I can’t be sure.

    Next up George Formby (snippet of ‘When I’m Cleaning Winders’). On the line we have a lady who’s a member of the George Formby Appreciation Society, telling us how much fun they have with their banjo ukeleles etc. Fair enough, can imagine that. Back into the studio we wait for Francis’s view, and in the interests of balance something along the lines of ‘Sounds like a slightly gay working class oik’. Nothing.

    Ah well, futher along we have George Galloway. Francis (paraphrased): ‘What a wonderful speaking voice. A serious politician. And, do you know, he came in for a lot of criticism over his appearnce on Big Brother but he had the last laugh because he made a lot of money from it. Yes, a serious politician who will pose a real threat to the Labour Party – and I mean that in a positive sense. He could break the mould of politics’.

    Beam me up, Scotty.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      George Galloway, serious politician? Threat to Labour?
      WTF has that knob been smoking?
      The only threat to Labour is Labour itself.

         31 likes

    • hadda says:

      No George Zimmerman? The Bushes? George from Rainbow?

         6 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        George Bush might have put in an appearance later, who knows. You couldn’t have bettered this for a parody if you’d tried.

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    • Mark says:

      Although fictional, there’s Chicken George from “Roots”.

         2 likes

    • Mark says:

      We could do with another George from history, to extinguish the hideous fire-breathing dragons at the BBC !

         2 likes

  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    While reporting about the President’s orders to suspend military aid to Egypt, not giving the generals a few F-16s, the BBC rightly points out that US law is dictating His hand here. Technically, their removal of Morsi counts as a “coup”, and US law says we don’t give aid to usurpers.

    The BBC’s Kim Ghattas in Washington says the decision is a way for the US to signal its displeasure with recent events in Egypt without undermining Washington’s strong relationship with the Egyptian military.

    President Barack Obama took the decision late on Tuesday following the recommendation of his national security team, she adds.

    In other words, He asked His experts how to put pressure on the military to restore Morsi and/or the MB to power in some fashion, and this is what they recommended. Not that the BBC would ever put it like that. They have to follow the White House talking point that the President isn’t choosing sides. Even though we know He did.

    The BBC reminds us that the Egyptian military removed a democratically elected President from office, and it’s clear the military itself runs the country. Then we get this:

    Mohammed Morsi narrowly won the presidential election in June 2012 to become Egypt’s first democratically elected president, but his opponents accused him of trying to impose an Islamist agenda on the country.

    “first democratically elected president, but……”? How about trying it this way:

    Mohammed Morsi narrowly won the presidential election in June 2012 to become Egypt’s first democratically elected president, and his opponents accused him of trying to impose an Islamist agenda on the country.

    Nobody in their right mind ever suspected that the former was going to pre-empt the latter. Unless the Beeboid who wrote that is thinking that protesting against the imposition of an Islamist agenda is an unexpected development.

    In any case, it’s fascinating how the BBC focuses on the “democratically elected” facet of Morsi’s government. Emotions and political ideology aside, the actual salient feature here where US law is concerned – whether a sitting government is elected democratically or otherwise – is the legal standing of that government. If it’s the internationally recognized – or even just US-recognized, if I’m honest – government of that country, it’s the legal government and any military takeover is a coup. Even Mark Mardell knows this, although he clearly doesn’t grasp how the Humpty Dumpty routine works.

    In any case, I thought US aid to Egypt was all about making them keep the peace with Israel? BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus put it this way recently:

    Indeed as the Israeli commentator Ehud Yaari has noted, ever since President Morsi came to power, he insisted that neither he nor his government would maintain any direct contacts with Israel. Such matters would remain the exclusive domain of the Egyptian military and intelligence services.

    So to that extent security ties prospered.

    Thus the military’s ejection of the Muslim Brotherhood from power promises continuity in the bilateral relationship between Israel and Cairo.

    The Egyptian military has been a strong supporter of the peace treaty with Israel and the massive injection of US aid that comes with it.

    Yet the President is now following US law (which makes for a refreshing change) and starting to withhold military aid. The tap hasn’t been completely turned off yet, and may not ever be. After all, withholding a few planes isn’t a big deal, considering how the Egyptian military isn’t even remotely about to go to war with anybody except some of their own people. But this is a warning. It also demonstrates that maybe, contrary to Beeboid belief, that the Jews don’t completely control US policy in the region.

    The BBC made sure to point out that the President made this decision on the recommendation of His national security team. And what a team. Sec. of Defense Hagel: anti-Israel; top national security adviser Susan “That video did it” Rice: no friend to Israel, or the truth; Samantha Power: say no more.

    My question to the BBC is this: if US law – never mind the aforementioned clown posse – dictates that we suspend aid to Egypt, what does this mean for the peace treaty with Israel, and what does it mean to those who believe the Jews control foreign policy in the region? How could the all-powerful Jewish Lobby allow such a law to be written in the first place without a get-out clause for Israel? You usually don’t hesitate to mention that aid to Egypt is directly tied to the peace treaty with Israel, so why not here?

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  19. Banquosghost says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637 The Muslim chap who refused to wear a shirt with Wonga on the front but was then caught out gambling in a casino has ‘resolved his dispute’ with Newcastle. Not a single mention of why.

    Why would the BBC not mention something they had on their own website a few days ago? Heaven forfend a Muslim should be shown in a bad light.

    If he had come out and said I don’t want to play for Newcastle people would have had more respect for the guy. Poxy BBC.

       34 likes

  20. Maturecheese says:

    First he has a guest on talking about Russias transformation to a market economy from communism and alluding to how much better and humanitarian the old system was.(lefty view box ticked) He then managed to get Margaret Thatcher mentioned in a negative light re Care Home abuses(lefty view box ticked again)and another guest mentioned that Kate Windsor has probably done the only work she will ever do in her life by giving birth.(and yet again) He comes across so bias he really shouldn’t be allowed to present a program on the BBC if their charter is to be believed. I know none of this is earth shattering but it’s just so bloody annoying as it is constant.

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  21. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    Not too bright! Muhammad Ikhlaq, caught with a prostitute in his car told police she was there to show him where to buy tomatoes.
    Couldn’t he have found a nice white under-age girl instead?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-23449261

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  22. lojolondon says:

    If you hate Piers Morgan and you want to see his arse handed to him, I suggest you watch this :

    Piers interviewed Trayvon Martin ex-girlfriend and called her a ‘smart cookie’.

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    • chrisH says:

      It takes a white smug ex-editor of the Daily Mirror to tell a genuine black American activist , how the race issues should be handled.
      Whitey in charge…none of that gun stuff, an Arsenal T-shirt in a gated community . well away from the smart cookies and pet blacks on the wrong side of the red carpet.
      Oh-and mock up pictures of black people getting pistol-whipped by white trash like Zimmerman.
      Yes folks-that Piers Morgan is over Stateside and sticking his chinos into every Socialist/liberal cause going…tells us all just what a crock of shite we have for media jockeys these days.
      How dare Morgan spout his chocolate fountain of crap at a genuine black American as if he knew a damn thing about the Martin case?
      Come on …where`s the campaign to gwet this squit back here on the charge of phone-hacking?…99 years in Supermax please ,Leveson you Guardian Gauleiter you!

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    • Gunn says:

      I am sorry that we inflicted Piers Morgan onto America. Its like dumping toxic waste into your friend’s backyard.

      Mind you, australia did that to us with Germaine Greer.

      I blame the aussies.

         11 likes

      • Buggy says:

        Personally, I blame the Dutch for most things. Not least for discovering Australia. Thanks a bunch, Tasman.

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  23. George R says:

    NIGERIA:

    -censored from INBBC’s Africa ‘reports’:-

    “Report: Nigerian Christian girls kidnapped, forced to convert to Islam”

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=18546

    Instead, INBBC turns to Islam’s ‘Tell Mama.’

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  24. George R says:

    Which of the following two groups does BBC-NUJ prefer politically?:-

    1.) Islamic jihadists (male and female), based in U.K, who go to Syria to kill in the name of Islam?

    “How British women are joining the jihad in Syria”

    (8 min video).

    http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-rebels-jihad-british-foreign-assad

    OR

    2.) English Defence League, which opposes Islamic jihadists politically?

    “Tommy Robinson Gives Sharia Lessons in Birmingham”

    (inc 20 min video clip).

    http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/07/tommy-robinson-gives-sharia-lessons-in-birmingham/

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  25. Guest Who says:

    The issue of facts… twisted, inserted or left out to suit.. does often get raised. I raise my hand to finding them often interesting and important.
    http://fullfact.org/articles/Daily_Mail_cost_social_care_bbc_fails_correct_error-29074

    ‘Since we contacted them a week ago, however, the BBC’s Complaints team haven’t so much as acknowledged our request, and their article still reads: “the level at which the cap is being set is twice what was recommended”.’
    Welcome to the world of the licence fee payer.
    ‘On this occasion, we’re still waiting to hear from the BBC as to why no amendment has been made to the article.’
    Maybe with the BBC it is also often a different timing too?

       13 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Apols. Already posted by another. No real harm in another outing, mind:)

         5 likes

  26. Guest Who says:

    Dinner beckons.
    Just a few of those darn facts to pass on for the evening:
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/ben-webster-times-media-editor-is.html
    ‘ …though people inside the BBC knew things were wrong by 7pm that evening, the apology and correction came after it was still running on morning bulletins.’
    That different timing at play again?
    Also nice to see the astounding uncuriosity appellation not just restricted to DGs along the whispering corridors of BBC market rate power. Or that stuffing up makes any dent to the dosh flow.
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/off-pat.html
    Yes, the word ‘accountability’ is again used as if saying it makes it so.
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/dongling.html
    As one who is celebrating two weeks since cancelling the TVL dd*, this is of interest.
    *in the interests of balance, while the BBC did in their reply mention getting back, they have not. Sky however have (canned them too, to stay legal), and have rather misconstrued the service provider/customer dynamic when free of unique legal compulsions. They have emailed to say that as they can’t reach me by phone ‘to process my request’, the cancelation can’t happen.
    I have replied to point out that it really wasn’t a request, and as they clearly received and understood my intention, playing silly buggers won’t help much.

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    • Stewart says:

      http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/off-pat.html
      Quote
      “One of the things I’ve learned in America from running a business is accountability. If I don’t hit my business plan I’ll get fired. Why shouldn’t the same apply for executives who fail to hit their ethnic minority targets?”
      Did he say ‘diversity targets’ surely not! For was I not recently assured that their was no EVIDENCE of such a thing at the BBC

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  27. dave1east says:

    re spain train crash – how odd that we know so little about the driver – he’s clearly not a member of the edl

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  28. George R says:

    “BBC accused of acting like a ‘cosy cartel’ after handing £500,000 pay-off to executive who quit in disgrace over doctored footage of the Queen.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2377787/BBC-accused-acting-like-cosy-cartel-handing-500-000-pay-executive-quit-disgrace-doctored-footage-Queen.html

       17 likes

  29. George R says:

    TUNISIA:

    – ‘Arab Spring’ myth, and Islamic Jihad reality..

    INBBC tries to politically cling to the false notion of Tunisia as birthplace of its wonderful Islamic ‘Arab Spring.’

    ‘RT’ has:

    “Thousands take to the streets after opposition leader gunned down in Tunisia”

    http://rt.com/news/tunisia-opposition-leader-killed-583/

    INBBC has:

    “Tunisian politician Mohamed Brahmi assassinated”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23452979

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  30. billy says:

    BBC employees and all lefty’s are the way they because they abused as children.

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  31. The Beebinator says:

    al beeb is happy to report on hacktivist group anonymous when its actions correspond their left wing ideology. But heres one statement from anonymous that al beeb certainly wont be reporting. apparently, its come to anonymous’s attention that islam is overrunning the UK, and they wont stand for it. good for them

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  32. Dave666 says:

    Nice to see the BBc Breakfast weather reporter in the studio in front of a blue screen. Someone at the BBc been reading this? Was it me or did she not seem to be very happy this morning
    Although Calder after popping up on the beach on Bournemouth last week was in a breakdown center this morning he was on Radio 4 later talking about the Spanish rail system

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  33. Teddy Bear says:

    We’re all now familiar with the Muslim paedophile gangs that have plagued this country, although it took our public services many years to finally acknowledge there was a problem. How or if they’ve really tried to address it is another matter – time will tell.

    Given the mentality exhibited by them so far, I would guess that they aren’t doing nearly enough.

    What I didn’t know until today, is the number of rapes there are in this country perpetrated by ‘Asian’ taxi drivers. Certainly looking at the names given in the article below of those found guilty, the majority are certainly Muslim.

    Clearly our ‘politically correct’ 🙄 media have avoided telling the public about this menace, so don’t expect the figures to go down any time soon. However, those working in the media will have received reports about this phenomena, and while they might have declined reporting it, they are still aware.

    Which is why when a BBC show host needing a taxi for her 14 year old daughter specifically requested a non Asian driver, and preferably a woman driver. The taxi company refused her request, accusing her of racism, and made it known to the BBC. Their response was to fire her.

    This is the crazy state of affairs that our country is now in. Consider the dynamics involved and decide yourself what you think is right.

    Rape Epidemic in UK Perpetrated by ‘Asian’ Taxi Drivers
    BBC show host fired for requesting ‘non-Asian’ or female driver for her 14 year old daughter.

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    • George R says:

      Yes, and Ms Sam Mason of Bristol BBC remains sacked, and not re-instated by BBC. And no apology.

      And where are the Beeboid demonstrations for her?
      And where is the NUJ?

      Campaigning against the anti-Islamic jihad EDL?

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      • George R says:

        What is the new Director General, Mr Tony Hall going to do about the totally unjust BBC dismissal of Me Sam Mason?

        Does he even know about the case? Or care?

        He seems more interested in appointing cronies, like Labour’s Purnell.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      This woman worked for the BBC. She must surely have been aware of the BBC’s utter devotion to Political Correctness. To make the comments she did was like a Sainsburys employee shouting at the Sainburys checkouts that she loved Tesco.

      I’m sorry but her career suicidal outburst evokes little of my sympathy.

      This inccident happened a few years ago. Was Savile still at the Beeb then? Could he not have provided a lift in his famous campervan handily parked nearby the BBC?

         4 likes

      • Teddy Bear says:

        I see the dynamics differently.
        Regarding ‘sympathy’ for being fired, I personally think they did her a favour, and in the long run she’ll be much better off not working for them.

        1. The left wing media mindset stifles informing the public of certain dangers inherent in our society, in order to construct a false perception of reality.

        2. They did it consciously – showing it is not an unconscious bias, as some have claimed, but a clear purposeful agenda.

        3. Since they are aware of the real state of affairs, their blatant hypocrisy becomes evident when they themselves modify or alter their own behaviour to avoid the ‘truths’, as even a half intelligent person would, while preaching differently for others.

        I would love to have a ‘Question Time’ with the BBC boss who sanctioned her being fired.

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  34. billy says:

    PC, Multiculturalism and cultural marxism will be the death of civilisation.

       21 likes

  35. Alex says:

    According to the BBC News at Ten, the Church of England has to ‘prove’ that it’s still relevant to the people of this country and that its intended bid to rival wonga.com is the corollary of this. Of course, followers of Islam, in the BBC’s eyes, never have to prove the religion’s relevance: it has the cowardly and groveling BBC to do that for them!

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  36. George R says:

    What does D.G. Tony HALL know about BBC pay-offs?:-

    “BBC director general asks for Fincham payout briefing”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23448279?

    Apparently, the ‘Daily Mail’ knows more about it than HALL does:-

    “BBC accused of acting like a ‘cosy cartel’ after handing £500,000 pay-off to executive who quit in disgrace over doctored footage of the Queen”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2377787/BBC-accused-acting-like-cosy-cartel-handing-500-000-pay-executive-quit-disgrace-doctored-footage-Queen.html

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  37. George R says:

    British troops are physically attacked in Britain, and French troops attacked in France.

    INBBC knows that British troops are attacked in Britain, but it seems more concerned for the welfare of Muslims, after the murder of a British soldier.

    And why should INBBC report attacks on French troops in France returning from Mali?

    http://galliawatch.blogspot.co.uk/

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  38. Pounce says:

    The bBC and its mission statement to act as the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorists:
    UK terror suspect Mahdi Hashi fights citizenship ruling
    A British terror suspect is challenging a government decision to strip him of his UK citizenship as a “flagrant deprivation” of his human rights.

    If the Somali twat was stripped of his so called British passport, then he isn’t British, but rather a Somali terror suspect. But to the bBC he can only be British.

    The bBC, the traitors within our midst

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  39. David Brims says:

    Regarding Trayvon Martin and the media circus

    ” My Negro Problem and Ours ” by Norman Podhoretz, speaking of his jewish upbringing in New York in the 1930s and 40s, at the time he wrote this famous article in 1963 he was a Liberal, later he became right wing.

    ”Two ideas puzzled me deeply as a child growing up in Brooklyn during the 1930′s in what today would be called an integrated neighborhood. One of them was that all Jews were rich; the other was that all Negroes were persecuted.

    And so for a long time I was puzzled to think that Jews were supposed to be rich when the only Jews I knew were poor, and that Negroes were supposed to be persecuted when it was the Negroes who were doing the only persecuting I knew about—and doing it, moreover, to me.

    Especially such evidence of the senses as comes from being repeatedly beaten up, robbed, and in general hated, terrorized, and humiliated.

    To me, at the age of twelve, it seemed very clear that Negroes were better off than Jews—indeed, than all whites. A city boy’s world is contained within three or four square blocks, and in my world it was the whites, the Italians and Jews, who feared the Negroes, not the other way around. The Negroes were tougher than we were, more ruthless, and on the whole they were better athletes.

    That afternoon, walking home, I am waylaid and surrounded by five Negroes, among whom is the anchor man of the disqualified team. “Gimme my medal, mo’f—r,” he grunts. I do not have it with me and I tell him so. “Anyway, it ain’t yours,” I say foolishly. He calls me a liar on both counts and pushes me up against the wall on which we sometimes play handball.

    “Gimme my mo’f—n’ medal,” he says again. I repeat that I have left it home. “Le’s search the li’l mo’f—r,” one of them suggests, “he prolly got it hid in his mo’f—n’ pants.” My panic is now unmanageable. (How many times had I been surrounded like this and asked in soft tones, “Len’ me a nickle, boy.”

    “Keep your f—n’ filthy lousy black hands off a me! I swear I’ll get the cops.” This is all they need to hear, and the five of them set upon me. They bang me around, mostly in the stomach and on the arms and shoulders, and when several adults loitering near the candy store down the block notice what is going on and begin to shout, they run off and away.

    In the last three or four years of the elementary school from which we have just graduated, each grade had been divided into three classes, according to “intelligence.” (In the earlier grades the divisions had either been arbitrary or else unrecognized by us as having anything to do with brains.)

    These divisions by IQ, or however it was arranged, had resulted in a preponderance of Jews in the “1” classes and a corresponding preponderance of Negroes in the “3′s,” with the Italians split unevenly along the spectrum. At least a few Negroes had always made the “l’s,” just as there had always been a few Jewish kids among the “3′s” and more among the “2′s” (where Italians dominated).

    But the junior high’s rapid-advance class of which I am now a member is overwhelmingly Jewish and entirely white—except for a shy lonely Negro girl with light skin and reddish hair.”

    Hmm seems like nothing changes…..

    Read full article here

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

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    • David Brims says:

      Footnote by Norman Podhoretz

      ”In 1963 “Negro” was still in wide use (and so was the term “Negro Problem”), but “black” was on the point of replacing it, and its use would soon become mandatory. In what follows, I have therefore confined my own use of “Negro” to the title of my essay and adopted “black” everywhere else. As for today’s “African American,” I ruled it out because it would seem entirely out of place in a discussion of race in 1963.”

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  40. Fred Bloggs says:

    Hot weather affecting my sleep patterns, so I ended up listening to parts of the early morning business news on R4. They go on talk about the ending of manufacturing Transits at Southampton and production going to Turkey.

    So if us leaving the EU would affect car production then why has Ford gone to Turkey a non EU member. Then they slip in that the European Investment Bank has supplied money to help build this plant in Turkey.

    Now if we had a patriotic bBC the headline should be ‘Traitorous EU supplies money to shutdown manufacturing in the UK.’ But we all know why that is not going to happen.

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  41. AsISeeIt says:

    Nicky Campbell : ’embarrassing uncle’ Prince Harry.

    This morning Nicky Campbell Bannerman [there’s a new name for “it”] introduces a short interview with Harry with that carping snide description.

    Why does Campbell feel he has to be seen to be jovial but vaguely disrespectful to the Royals at all times?

    Because he is beholden to Twitter.

    Twitter will produce a ‘Twitter storm’ for the BBC man if he doesn’t adopt this anti-Royal snide.

    Get Twitter out fo the BBC. It is not a short cut to news and opinion it is a Lefty flash mob.

    I hear the soundbite interview with Harry.

    My impression : Not Embarrassing Uncle but Damn Fool embarrassing questions from the reporter.

    The baton of the spirit of Alan Partridge is truely passed on from Garry Richardson…..

    http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/forum/index.php?topic=7685.0

    To whoever this idiot was:

    ‘We saw him [Prince William] with the car seat, getting in imaculately – is that just a charade? Is he cut out for fatherhood?’

    ‘What is your “mission” as an uncle in the first 20 years of his life?’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23451635

    In fact Harry made patient and light hearted responses to convoluted stupid questions.

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  42. Dave666 says:

    So where was this poll the BBc did for the Olympic legacy that they are banging on about on BBc breakfast this morning? I didn’t come across that one. The Weather woman is looking a lot happier today as she’s doing the weather from Buckingham Palace, no blue screen for that one then?

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  43. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC : Half the news all the time.

    BBC 5 Live manages to cover the loss of Ford’s van plant without mention of where the jobs are going….

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-ford-britain-idUSBRE89O0EN20121025

    Seems that love for the EU trumps BBC support for Unite – no BBC soundbite for the brothers….

    Reuters have this:

    “Ford will move Transit production to Turkey where the wages for staff are so low Britain just can’t compete,” said Roger Maddison, the Unite union’s national officer for the automotive industry.

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    • uncle bup says:

      Thought Maggie had bust the UK motor industry 25 years ago.

      Must be true it was a front-page five inch high splash in last Saturday’s SOCIALIST WORKUUUUUUH !!!!!!!

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      • Mark says:

        I thought that SWP shop stewards like Derek ‘Red Robbo’ Robinson played a large part in the demise of British Leyland. Mind you, rubbishy cars such as the Morris Ital didn’t help, either.

        Sad, really, as Austin in pre-BL days helped to set up BMW for private car production back in the 1920s.

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        • Banquosghost says:

          My brother had a Morris Ital, it was great at roundabouts, you took your hands off the wheel to light up and it merrily went around the roundabout on its own.

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    • Dave666 says:

      By chance I used to live near the Ford transit factory and walked past it on my way to Southampton Parkway train station. despite being something of a closed shop it was one of the few remaining jobs in the area paying decent wages. Do I not remember that the EU gave a handout to Turkey in respect of their factory? Or have I got that wrong? One of the other wage paying companies BAT (British American Tobacco) has now long gone it’s site is now a COSTCO I believe. Friends in the area tell me all the jobs going in Southampton now are minimum wage.

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  44. AsISeeIt says:

    I see that a major Labour supporting commentator has – almost – thrown in the towel about that ‘Cameron jinx’

    Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire 19 Jul
    Logic says a Cameron Curse is a bit of tomfoolery but Dave going to the Ashes and Tim Bresnan out first ball of the day…

    Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire 19 Jul
    Is Uri Geller at the cricket? Curse of Cameron suspended. Aussies all out for 128. Perhaps Gordon Brown’s watching on TV 🙂

    Nice try Labour spinners.

    Perhaps BBC men John Inverdale and David Bond can let it go now. I guess Inverdale will in any case be keeping his head down for the time being.

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    • uncle bup says:

      They didn’t quite get that what Guido was doing was post-facto – he’d wait for a disaster, then he’d link Mad Gordon MacRuin to it. The BBC and their chum(p)s are trying to front-run.

      Difference is Guido’s a very good journalist and they are utterly hopeless.

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      • Ken Hall says:

        And the fact that whenever McDoom wished anyone luck, then there was a significantly better than chance probability that they would fail. It was too strong a correlation to be subject to pure chance.

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  45. George R says:

    Director General (D.G.) Mr Tony HALL demands to know what’s going on at the BBC!

    Doesn’t D.G Tony HALL know what’s going on at the BBC in terms of lavish staff pay-offs?

    Is he actually in charge of the BBC?

    Coming from the Opera House, is he trying to consolidate the BBC as an operatic comedy HQ?

    Does HALL simply use the BBC as a recruiting ground for the likes of his Labour ‘cronies’ such as PURNELL?

    “BBC’s Tony Hall demands briefing on Peter Fincham’s Crowngate payoff.
    “Director general wants details of £500,000 payment to the former BBC1 controller who left after documentary on Queen.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/25/bbc-tony-hall-peter-fincham-payoff?

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    • uncle bup says:

      Zzzz ‘Call Me Tony’ Hall pretends to rip into all the ‘old era’ chronic wastage of licence-payers’ money while at the same time creating a ‘new era’ of chronic wastage of licence payers’ money.

      I think the troutmungous Roger Daltrey wrote a song about this.

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  46. Maturecheese says:

    I cannot believe what I am hearing on Dame Campbells show this morning about the legacy of the bloody Olympics. Apparently the state paid for 94% of the shabang and some of it by the the lottery. An old lady then says doesn’t the public pay the lottery so therefore it was part public funded. (my interpretation) Nobody and certainly not Campbell questioned just what the state funding really was, taxpayers money. I’m sure I also heard some muppet mention that the private sector only funded a small part of it as the state funded most of it. DUH! The BBC clearly doesn’t understand the concept of the taxpayer funding the state.

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  47. noggin says:

    Panto Campbell along with the other bbc dead horse floggers, try to corpse the London-centric Olympics again,
    oh dear … gets all shirty, as callers won t share the delusion,
    mind you, they do dig up someone who had a mild stroke celebrating, (no … not after seeing the bill :-D) …
    bbc faces saved? …
    oh they ve trawled around the speed dial …
    come up with (excited about anything, and on the bbc payroll) C. Akabusi, and some bint the dame spoke to on the Olympic park?

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  48. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ makes light of fact that anti-oil protesters act illegally and dangerously (they cut vehicle brake lines).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-23462586

    To be ‘anti-oil’ is the thing for BBC-NUJ.

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  49. Mice Height says:

    This is the most popular video amongst white BBC employees right now.
    Nothing quite helps to alleviate the all-consuming guilt like watching this whilst a colleague ‘of colour’ beats you with a rolled up copy of The Guardian.

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    • billy says:

      People like this make me sick.

      Why isn’t she moaning about the 11006 blacks killed by other blacks between zimmermans arrest and getting off?

      Won’t fit her own self-loathing.

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    • noggin says:

      sheesh! … talk about … no no … lets leave it to larry elder
      actually a man “of colour” am i allowed to say that.

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    • The Beebinator says:

      i feel sorry for her boyfriend, she must talk shit 24/7

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      • billy says:

        She probably really nasty to her boyfriend to get back at her father for the way he treated her as a child.

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