228 Responses to THURSDAY OPEN THREAD…

  1. George R says:

    Someone says it: ‘Employ British workers in Britain, ahead of immigrants.’

    Two reports:-

    1.) ‘Daily Mail’-

    “It’s firms’ duty to employ Britons, says minister: Taking on migrant workers is ‘easy option.’
    “Tory MP Matthew Hancock wants firms to train local workers on the job.
    “He says that hiring British workers will boost firms and the economy.
    “Foreigners currently take 55 per cent of job vacancies in the UK.
    “That figure is down from 74 per cent under the last Labour Government.
    “His call comes amid fears of an influx of workers from Bulgaria and Romania.”
    By JAMES CHAPMAN.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2378340/Its-firms-duty-employ-Britons-says-minister-Taking-migrant-workers-easy-option.html?ico=news^headlines

    2.) BBC-NUJ:-

    “Firms have ‘social duty’ to hire UK workers – minister”

    Note BBC-NUJ’s cryptic, unsubstantiated, biased conclusion:

    “BBC political correspondent Chris Mason said Mr Hancock’s remarks were the latest in a series of moves from Conservative ministers that will be interpreted as an attempt to deal with the electoral threat posed by the UK Independence Party.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23462393

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    • David Brims says:

      And the immigrant workers send the money they earn here back to the old country to help their relatives. So no benefit to our nation what so ever.

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  2. AsISeeIt says:

    See this BBC report which mirrors BBC radio reports concerning two nurses on the frontline of the Stafford Hospital Scandal.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-23450764

    The BBC ‘take’ on the misconduct of the nurses although appearing under a headline about ‘waiting times’ seems really to centre on their ‘racism’.

    ‘The NMC panel found the fitness to practise of Ms Turner was “impaired” after she used abusive language about patients.’

    ‘She also racially abused some junior doctors, referring to them as “the suicide bombers”, the panel heard.’

    Tut tut. She sounds like a bad person. Although they once used to say something about sticks and stones…..

    The Daily Mail – despite that newspaper being the butt of so much BBC ire – gets the news priorities correct in their report

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2377974/Two-nurses-struck-faking-records-scandal-hit-Stafford-hospital-racist-staff-black-people-wait-longer.html#ixzz2a7vlLtHU

    ‘This year a damning report into the scandal concluded that ‘appalling and unnecessary suffering’ was inflicted on hundreds of patients who were left ‘unwashed, unfed and without fluids’.

    ‘Mrs Turner, who lives in Cannock, Staffordshire, admitted to the three-strong panel she had once said she ‘did not give a flying f***’ about one of her patients.’

    ‘When told by other staff that a patient had requested something, she said: ‘They want to get f****** real’, the panel heard.’

    Now I have no doubt that the ‘Nursing and Midwifery Council’ [NMC – time to remame themselves Bump Club?] found it was far easier to can these two ‘Angels’ for ‘racist’ remarks rather than their failure to care for patients – but that’s their problem.

    The BBC deliberately foists a ‘racism’ agenda on the story missing the real point of the failure of well funded Labour led NHS culture.

    Very often when you hear accusationns of ‘bigotry’ or ‘racism’ these slurs are put up as a smoke screen to hide real failings elsewhere – just ask Gordon Brown.

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  3. billy says:

    Is there a D-notice on talking about Common purpose in the British media?

    It was in all the newspapers a while ago and it stopped.

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    • Banquosghost says:

      Good grief, haven’t you given up yet? Your sixth form drivel intended to spark a response involving an ‘ism’ is getting tiresome.

      And yes, I appreciate the irony of me responding in telling him to stop trying to get a response! Blame the torrential rain the BBC have promised for five days now but which still hasn’t arrived.

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  4. Umbongo says:

    Despite trawling the BBC website (search parameter “Labour Party (UK)”) and listening to Today and the Radio 4 flagship news at 8:00 am this morning, I failed to find any mention of this monument to Labour hypocrisy although I did find this less than comprehensive but oddly triumphalist and upbeat report on Labour’s finances. Far be it from me to allege bias or a conscious refusal to embarrass its political chums, but it’s an odd item of info to ignore given the BBC’s – and Labour’s – condemnation of tax avoidance. Maybe one of the employees (actual or hopeful) of the BBC who occasionally visit this site might like to comment.

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  5. will.duncan says:

    Here’s a site to cheer up all the BBBC posters: how to be a troll!

    http://www.ehow.co.uk/slideshow_12274904_classic-troller-arguments-rise-online.html#pg=16

    Vance seems to tick every box with ‘Alan’ and ‘DP’ not far behind . What is so much fun for the rest of us is this site is a troll sanctuary where they congregate to congratulate themselves in being so out of the loop. But they are so easy to upset. Pure daily gold!

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    • Mat says:

      Awww ikle willy is back fondling himself in the corner ! you know you can go blind ,deaf and dumb if you keep doing that but you love defending the BBC so maybe it’s too late for that warning Doh!.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Which is why you never call me out for doing any of these things on my posts, right, will? I may have a favorite between Kirk and Picard, but the rest of that stuff is idiotic. Defending free speech is trolling? Are you a fascist? If you claim I’ve shown hatred for a divisive politician, does that mean you believe the President is divisive? That might be unintentionally racist. Do you have enough knowledge of holy texts to point out where I’ve misinterpreted any? I never noticed you offering any such critiques of anything I’ve ever said here. Sneering and smearing may make you feel better about yourself, but it proves nothing.

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    • Guest Who says:

      “Here’s a site to cheer up all…’
      Maybe depends on what floats the boat of ‘the rest of us’?
      What I arrived at had this as its only comment so far:
      “Cynthia Fidler
      just as Irene responded I am taken by surprise that people can profit $9882 in a few weeks on the internet. did you see this website… http://www.Jam10.ℂoM
      23 July at 04:36″
      There may be irony there. Possibly mixed with spam… Spammery?
      Anyhoo… Thus inspired to further share, I tried it out on a BBC & CiF thread to inspire the loopy-insiders that frequent them.
      You’ll never guess…. Modded! Both. Pre & post. An actual brace.
      Professional integrity from another time, and places, one must suppose.
      Maybe it was the one about running top tens, given…
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/bp-you-decide-shortlist.html
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/series/the-10-best
      Trolling, trolls & trolling trolls. A heady brew in the right hands, eh?

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  6. Banquosghost says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23461396

    Graffiti is criminal damage. Banksy’s daubs are as much criminal damage as a tag on the side of somebody’s house, it seems the BBC likes to call this crime ‘street art’. I wonder how these same BBC chaps would react if some fragrant youth sprayed some rubbish on the side of their own properties.

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  7. chrisH says:

    Only heard random bits of Radio 4 this morning.
    1. Any chance of those Tories sucking up to those unions that they seem to have alienated?…Chris Mason investigates.
    2. UHW gearing up to be the new Stafford…but only the Tories get the blame…devolution seems not to apply here. Ann Clwyd tells us the problem, because she herself suffered.
    3. Russell Brand tells me that Morrissey is the Poet Laureate of the Dispossessed. He`s on Desert Island Discs, presumably chucking stones at posters ofKristallnacht survivorss when he`s bored.
    4. Let Morsi out…Ban Ki Moon says so, and it`s Friday…all likely to kick off Pru///any female journos fancy a bit of overtime?
    So will…you`ll not see the point of this impression of the BBC either…but there`s a direction of travel here, if only you cared enough.
    How do YOU grade yourself?…troll or cheeky monkey?…top 10 or a mere gentleman player?..self-assessment is always good!
    NO abuse please…I`m not Walter Wolfgang…and you`re no Russell Brand, senator!

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    • CCE says:

      Brand is doing a tour of the UK – so suddenly he appears on every BBC platform at every opportunity.

      Personally I do not want to hear the purile rantings of an egomaniac former heroin addict, and I do not want to have to pay for his free publicity. I may not be alone in my aversion to this arse.

      He disgusts me

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      • billy says:

        Brand is a freak who needs a bath.

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        • Buggy says:

          He’d be one of my first choices for “Watch Out For The Wolverine !”, once Prickstocke has been disposed of in Ep. 1. Bet he couldn’t move very fast in those drainpipes he affects either, which would make him vulnerable to new “Guest Predator”: Half-Arsed Arthritic Lion.

          Note well, CH5: Use of ‘cheaper’ wildlife like H-AAL will result in substantial reductions in production costs, i.e. more profit for you and me. Can you continue to ignore this televisual catnip any longer?

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  8. The Beebinator says:

    BBC’s Stuart Hall jail term doubled by Court of Appeal

    Increasing the term to 30 months, Lord Chief Justice Lord Judge said the original term had been “unduly lenient” given the impact on Hall’s victims.

    [the attorney general] wanted the judges to take into account “breaches of trust” by Hall, as “some of these offences [were] in places where the victims were entitled to feel safe”.

    “He used his celebrity status to invite them to attend the BBC and he also displayed an element of planning and premeditation,”

    how much is this going to cost the telly tax payer?

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    • Buggy says:

      “BBC’s Stuart Hall jail term doubled by Court of Appeal.”

      Cripes ! Did he play his joker ?

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      The BBC will settle out of court and soon so as to hush this one up. After all, it’s not as if its their hard earned money, is it?

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  9. CCE says:

    I’m still looking for an update on the Muswell Hill islamic centre file ‘EDL hate crime’ – does anybody know if there are any facts, as opposed to wild and politically motivated speculation (c) BBC, in the public domain about this case? Similarly the madrassa fire where some ‘teenagers’ charged.

    The BBC was all over this at the time and there has been a complete silence ever since. Is this because there are some ‘inconvenient truths’ lurking there?

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘The BBC was all over this at the time and there has been a complete silence ever since.’

      Careful with those absolutes, but the degree of ‘watertight oversight’ (c) Black. R, does appear to have nudged into Zimmerman territory at about the point the facts and evidence available online was going to make the ongoing ‘reporting’ broadcasts from the MSM look a little… Skew-whiff, at best.
      Maybe time to head to the BBC archives and see what their go-to sources who say at Tell MaMa have to chip in with?
      But given recent shares on the BBC’s lacklustre abilities when evolving stories or even corrected facts are unacknowledged or ignored, it may not surprise to find that the BBC has rather missed this outfit slipping off the cred scale on community fears of atta.. incide.. someone looking at another a bit funny.
      Thing about crying wolf all the time is that when something actually does warrant concern, folk don’t believe a word you say any more.
      Trust is funny like that.

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  10. John Anderson says:

    How times have changed. The lefty Kirsty Young chooses the odious Russell Brand to be on Desert Island Discs – which would obviously offend a lot of the BBC’s audience, but still they go ahead and give the scrote yet more time to publicise his tour. This is the latest in a line of bad choices by Young.

    On Radio 4 Extra they had a repeat of the Desert Island Discs appearance of Freddie Trueman – some years after his bowling career had ended. A real man, a folk hero of major achievement, well worthy of the programme.

    Sad, sad, sad how far the BBC keeps slipping.

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  11. Richard D says:

    I think I have just watched the most unashamedly partisan piece of reporting on the BBC 6pm TV News.

    A report was presented about an appalling state of affairs in the Welsh NHS, and at no point in the introduction to the report, during the report, or the follow-up, was it even hinted that the Welsh NHS is a devolved responsibility of the Welsh Assembly. In fact, the latter part of the report was about the state of affairs over the first quarter of this year, and it was broadly linked to the rest of the NHS, without a shadow of a doubt designed to create the impression that this state of affairs was the responsibility of the current UK government – rather than the Labour party, which has governed devolved responsibilities to Wales since the Welsh Assembly was created.

    Disgusting, disingenuous and disgraceful reporting by the BBC

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    • chrisH says:

      And the poor souls there have to pay for the carrier bags to take home their body parts as well, no doubt.

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  12. George R says:

    SACHSGATE.

    BBC-NUJ’ ‘Desert Island Discs’ (and Ms Young does not demur) acting as apologist for Russell Brand, blaming ‘Daily Mail’ for Sachsgate!

    ‘Desert Island Discs’ provided a Russell Brand tirade against the ‘Daily Mail’ in regard to HIS behaviour towards Andrew Sachs and family!

    And this BBC-NUJ piece is mere Russell Brand PR material with no counter view-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23383451

    That article shows BBC-NUJ subservience to Brand re-Sachs.

    As a final sentence, BBC-NUJ claims it could not get response from the ‘Daily Mail’ on this.

    Here’s one:-

    “Why did the BBC let Russell Brand insult Andrew Sachs again? Actor’s wife says interview with comedian was ‘very nasty to hear.’
    “Russell Brand, 38, left obscene messages on Andrew Sachs’ machine.
    “The incident dubbed ‘Sachsgate’ provoked 42,000 complaints.
    “Now Brand says Daily Mail had ‘whipped up public opinion.”‘
    By ALASDAIR GLENNIE and MILES GOSLETT

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2372866/Sachsgate-Why-did-BBC-let-Russell-Brand-insult-Andrew-Sachs-Asks-actors-wife.html

    And, of course Mr Brand was on ‘QT’ again last week.

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  13. chrisH says:

    Oh dear-“broadcaster” Stuart Hall is in the news.
    There was me thinking that he was a well-loved national treasure until recently…and he CERTAINLY was a “BBC Presenter” throughout his long career.
    But the BBC won`t be calling him that anytime soon…
    So Stuart Hall follows Savile into the mists…Savile, you may recall was a blackleg miner and sometime train spotter.
    Stand by your man BBC!

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    • Richard D says:

      ‘TV personality’ was the phrase I heard earlier……

      Oh look, there’s an 800-pound gorilla over there….honestly….no, not here – over there….

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    • dez says:

      chrisH,
       
      “…But the BBC won`t be calling him that anytime soon…
       
      Former BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall’s 15-month sentence for a series of indecent assaults has been doubled by the Court of Appeal
       
      http://bbc.in/13j4ZLm
       

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  14. George R says:

    Don’t Mention ISLAM.
    INBBC has:-
    “Girl’s online plea highlights plight of Yemen’s child brides”
    By Abubakr al-Shamahi,
    Sanaa.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23454291

    It is devious of INBBC not to mention Islam.

    Of course, as INBBC must know, it is not necessary to go as far as Yemen to find present-day child brides in Islam:-

    “UK: Muslim clerics agreeing to marry girls as young as 12, as long as parents don’t tell anyone”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/uk-muslim-clerics-agreeing-to-marry-girls-as-young-as-12-as-long-as-parents-dont-tell-anyone.html

    Also:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/br0nc0s/managed-mt/mt-srch.cgi?search=Islam+child+brides&IncludeBlogs=1&limit=20

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  15. Deborah says:

    No bias but I have just been watching the springwatch on butterflies and moths. The presenter spoke like Alan Titmarsh talking to 3 year olds. It could have been an interesting programme but after 20 minutes I gave up.

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