Ed Stourton on World At One reports on the death threats that some Muslim commentators have received from al Shabab.
Talking to Ajmar Masroor Stourton tells him:
‘I have to say you’re being extremely brave.’
This is the same Ajmal Masroor who had to stand down from an election for postings on an Islamist site…MPACUK:
Ajmal Masroor (Liberal Democrat) born 1971. Broadcaster and production consultant. Selected as Lib Dem PPC for West Ham prior to the last election, but stood down shortly before the close of nominations after being criticised for posting on the Muslim Public Affairs Committee forum.
Harry’s Place in 2010 took a look at Masroor and some of his dodgy links to the Muslim Brotherhood:
Why Does Lib Dem PPC, Masroor, Admire Galloway?
Masroor is a presenter on the Islam Channel: a Muslim Brotherhood dominated organisation, whose CEO, Mohammed Ali Harrath is a convicted terrorist. So, you’d expect him to follow the news. Masroor is also “spokesman” for Harrow Central Mosque….which links to these organisations:
Muslim Organisations
Muslim Council of Britain
Young Muslim Organisation UK
Islamic Forum Europe
Muslim Relief Agencies
Muslim Aid UK
Islamic Relief
Islam and Muslims
Islam Channel
Islam Expo
Young Muslims Organisation UK and Islamic Forum Europe are front groups for the clerical fascist south Asian party, Jamaat-e-Islami. Islam Channel you know all about.
[And of course the MCB is an Islamist organisation: “Far from representing the more progressive or spiritual traditions within Islam, the leadership of the MCB takes its inspiration from political Islamism associated with reactionary opposition movements in the Middle East and South Asia”]
IslamOnline is the website of the Holocaust enthusiast and spiritual guide of Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood, Yusuf al Qaradawi. It is filled with the most vicious of fatwas, including those promoting terrorism against civilians.
Islam Expo is another Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood front. It was founded by Mohammed Sawalha, a fugitive Hamas commander who has also been named on IslamOnline as “manager of the political committee of the International Organization of the Brothers [i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood] in Britain”.
And again here:
He is an Imam who advises Nick Clegg on Muslim affairs, so you’d think he would take a stand against extremists. He was also the LibDem candidate for Bethnal Green and Bow at the 2010 election. But then why has his Mosque (Harrow) hosted a series of hate preachers? The latest event at Harrow was on Saturday, just a few hours before Masroor was on TV condemning extremists.
(They also link to Islamic Forum Europe on their website, which is connected with the Islamist party, Jamaat e Islami).
Traditionally, Muslim religious authorities have opposed gay sex. They argue that the Koranic authority for this is the story of God’s destruction of the city of Sodom because of its citizens’ sins.
“Homosexuality is a choice, it’s a desire, it’s not something that you are born with,” says the London imam Ajmal Masroor. Homosexuality is not acceptable for either Sunni or Shia Muslims, he says, because God intends for sex to occur between men and women only, within marriage, and “any sexual relationship outside marriage is a sin”.
He is also a supporter of Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, who Masroor tells us ‘Didn’t commit a single crime in Bangladesh’:
Delwar Hossain Sayeedi is a Bangladeshi Islamist politician and Muslim cleric convicted of war crimes during the 1971 Bangladesh liberation war.
The International Crimes Tribunal found Sayeedi guilty in 8 of the 20 charges, including mass killing, rape, arson, looting and forcing minority Hindus to convert to Islam during 1971.
Sayeedi’s “previous visits to the UK have been reportedly marred by violence caused by his supporters.
In this video he preaches in support of Sayeedi and against ‘secular fundamentalism’...France is a country that practises that…oppressing and subjugating Muslims….and he is naturally, against Israel, the Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan….and that Allah thinks ‘reformers‘ are troublemakers….so the Koran is what the Koran is.
Secular Liberals are Ok if they come to an accomodation with Muslims, bloodshed must end and justice must prevail…in relation to Sayeedi’s court case…..Islam should be the dominant force in Bangladesh and around the world.
Secular Fundamentalism-A serious threat to Bangladesh by Ajmal Masroor
Policy Exchange has some doubts about befriending ‘Islamists’:
When Progressives Treat With Reactionaries
The British establishment just can’t get it into their heads that most British people ( not the aliens who were given a UK passport and their children ) are very unhappy with mass immigration. We don’t want anymore of it and we don’t think that most of those who came here should remain. Obviously if one particular group of immigrants then attacks their hosts and their culture, things are not going to get better!
Yesterday the BBC did a vox pop on whether the English were feeling more English in response to increase in Scottish and Welsh nationalism. They interviewed a mixed bunch including several folks who from their skin colour haven’t got English roots. Inteerstingly, one guest pointed out that both Wales and Scotland remained much more homogeneous societies than England because most of the immigration has been concentrated in England. I wonder if the Scots want to escape from their increasingly ethnically diverse neighbour?
This vox pop is just a tiny example of the decades long liberal left propaganda war to get us to accept that England is indeed a multi-racial society and that we like it.
I think they want us to try and become like the USA where people with origins from many countries do think of themselves as Americans. But until the early decades of the 20th century America wanted as many immigrants as possible. The English certainly never wanted the millions of aliens who arrived from the 60’s onwards. Can anyone who disagrees with that, please show me any opinion poll which contradicts it, or a debate in parliament on immigration, or an election manifesto where we were told that the party policy was to invite millions of immigrants into our country.
Can anyone show me how the mass of immigration has benefited our country either culturally or economically? Are ordinary British people better off because we have millions of aliens here? No just the opposite.
The BBC have spent decades trying to get us to accept the liberal left plan , by manipulation of the news, by trying to shift cultural norms towards an acceptance of multiculturalism through drama and documentaries, by re-writing history , by making the British ashamed of the past and feeling guilty.
The liberal left establishment have suppressed freedom of speech , demonised anyone who spoke out about immigration, branded them racists, used the BBC to lie to us. But despite all this if you held a referendum today, I believe that the result would be an overwhelming rejection of their policy.
Who cares if fanatic Muslims are threatening other fanatic Muslims.
There is an ongoing tragedy of the huge and deadly persecution of Christians in Islamic countries.
Christians are being cleansed out of Islamic countries. This was predictable from the very start of our interventions in Islamic countries.
The Syrian Christians – Doubly under Pressure
http://vladtepesblog.com/2013/10/18/between-the-fronts-the-syrian-christians-doubly-under-pressure/#comments
It is these people who we should allow into the West ,rather then hordes of Muslims, who will turn Jihadi at a moments notice.
Culture is everything. Religion and faith is the foundation of all cultures, whether we believe or not.
Christians from Islamic countries are cousins in culture to us, and will have no problem in identifying and integrating in the West. In fact, it will take exactly one week before they are accepted as part of our culture.
With Muslims, it is the other way round. Each subsequent generation of Muslims will be more hostile to the West, as that is the only way they can be comfortable in the identity of being Muslim in an alien culture.
Sadly, our determination to integrate Muslims living in the West, will only lead to even more hostility of Muslims to the West, and that will lead to civil war.
“Who cares if fanatic Muslims are threatening other fanatic Muslims.”
Who really KNOWS if the supposedly threatened Muslims ARE being threatened? The Kufar will think them OK if it is SAID that they are threatened by fanatics.
How true. When Taqqiya applies, it is difficult to know truth from lies.
It is almost certainly lies, which is presumably why the BBC gave the announcement such prominence.
For all the shouts of the death of multiculturalism, the fact remains that no one is prepared to offer a likely solution to the present problem. Integration is suggested as one policy – though how it is to be achieved is not mentioned. It goes without saying that people of other cultures are just as adamant in preserving their culture as we are. In fact, the more we try to integrate Muslims, the more hostile they will get, as they will view integration as an attack on Islam.
A nation is based on a common culture ie religion, language and ethnicity. Thus a multicultural nation is a contradiction in terms. If this situation continues in Britain, then it will, in the fullness of time, break up into monocultural nations, as we have seen demonstrated yet again in Bosnia and Cyprus.
The situation is particularly urgent in the case of Islam in the West, as this is where the thrust of the Jihad is coming from, i.e., to forcibly or otherwise bring an Infidel country to Islam.
Sadly, I feel there are really no humane alternative but a separation from Islam and Muslims, or I fear a civil war in Europe that will destroy Europe, as well as the rest of the world.
But until the early decades of the 20th century America wanted as many immigrants as possible.
America did want immigrants but mainly from Europe, and preferably from Britain. Jews were not exactly welcome either.
AFAIK, there was very little enthusiasm for Irish, Italian, or general East European/Russian chums amongst the existing US populationeither.
Obviously the Somalian population were dragging their heels at the time. Slackers, but they’re making up for lost time now.
I agree absolutely with this contributor.
Well spotted, Alan.
The INBBC political position on Islam includes:
1.) special preferential treatment for Islam;
2.) deferring to Muslims, especially of Islamic organisations, as the fount of wisdom on all matters Islamic;
3.) euphemistic treatment of all violence and repression emanating from Islamic sources;
4.) treating the impact of Islam on non-Muslims as an Islamic issue, to be decided on by Muslims.
There is a global jihad against the West and non-Muslims. The BBC fails to explain the role of grievances and injustices, real and imagined, but most especially wilfully ignores the primitive ferocity of unreformed Islam. I hope we are seeing an ‘awakening’ amongst civilised Muslims who now see the dangers. Ironically I think even those Muslims have been gulled by the BBC into seeing themselves as perpetual victims and having no responsibilities. Jihadists murder Muslims and destroy life, peace and prosperity. The BBC is too arrogant to ever issue a mea culpa, and exploits its monopoly, but I hope its audience is becoming more sceptical.
mirror from yesterday
As I drove back this afternoon, I heard that Moh Answar
had been threatened, by the genocidal Islamics of Al Shabaab in some video, and later, that Ajmal Masroor had too? (now you would think he would be the first to be ahem “tipped off” with his connections).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24582781
The police helpfully, said that they were not arresting him this time on some trite absurd inconsequential matter and have advised him to pack up and leave Luton … great eh!
So give this a listen
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b03ctd4d/
1 hr 19min …
oops! i m sorry … this was BBC speed dial and ejector seat holder – bosum buddy of Nikki Campbell. …
Mo Answar,
SO ….
Scotland Yard are immediately involved, 24hr police protection, patrols, potential threat level, special measures, various procedures put in the place, set up alarms etc, etc.
Plenty of sympathetic media coverage, and
plenty of two and fro on twitter between him and al bbc that ….
gets him on BBC 5live, to talk about the dangers of said video, and drone on (and on) about
How HE has stands strong against “islamofauxbia” ?
How HE was right there in Woolwich speaking out?
How HE fights the “far right EDL” by being (wink wink) with T Robinson?
How Woolwich nothing to do with Islam? – just criminals?
How Islam stands for …
“not being cowed” –
“not being terrorised into silence”
being accountable to “a higher power”
“the pursuit of peace and tolerance?”
etc, etc etc.
I think he just got confused, that this wasn t a sermon
anyway yep! someone said something in a video …
I don t seem to recall Tommy Robinson, all over the BBC, with sycophantic media and concerned interviews, when the Islamic bombers thankfully were late with their mass murder mission.
BBC Bias – You Betcha!
Now George vigilant as ever posted a vid link, its from BBC Wales from a debate between Answar and D Murray, which
you can hear Murray “raining on his parade”.
Now to hear just how biased the BBC is on all things Islam listen to the full interview is here below
Taqqiya from Mo Answar.
As soon as Islamaphobia is cited; it’s taqqiya.
Exactly.
Do like that spelling above from noggin.
“Islamofauxbia”.
Think I`ll include it in my new dictionary…cheridee? Islamofauxbia?…or is that to be guilty of some EU/Guardian/BBC kind of defamation of the Poppet.
Note –
Answar gets to spout absolute pap for 8 mins before Murray is even brought in!
Then Answar is still given more airtime than Murray afterwards? – only at the BBC
can t say fairer than that eh! (shakes head).
or maybe Ch 4
Ed Stourton is worried about the radicalisation of “young white working class men”.
When the above group start to bomb airplanes, trains and buses, I will start to worry about them. I will get even more worried if they start a sex trade dealing with young girls right across Britain. I will get really worried, when they start to plan the destruction of the UK, and replace it with some Far right ideology -whatever that is.
In the meantime, the above group is of no concern to me, or should be to anyone.
WTF has this to do with BBC other than the fact it reports the news and that ‘Alan’ (sorry Vance) has an unhealthy obsession with young men of Indian descent?
Love all his sock puppets joining in to debate with himself!
Mad but so much fun:-)
Oh joy we have the full ‘ big girls blouses’ in this week scrot /albit/constipation theory and now Will ? wow full house !OK who had the four jackasses of the apocalypse would be back this week in the pool ?
world at one … (biased) bbc
ed stourton … (biased ) bbc
masroor (biased) … on speed dial at …… bbc
“sock puppets joining in to debate with himself”
biased bbc went up in the political blogs
so ….. 😀
will dunce un – 1/10 – must try harder
Will.duncan is probably a sock puppet himself – Hello Scott!
Will.duncan is not Scott he reads like the latest posting name of Nicked Emus. It is strange how the Left denounce others for doing what they are doing themselves, in this case posting under different names. There were some classics in the vein from Scott yesterday who denounced this site for being insulting and fact free. It is hard to conclusion that the Left are sick in the head.
It is hard [avoid the] conclusion that the Left are….
‘ WTF has this to do with the BBC? ‘
Err….right back at you pal, WTF has anything on this blog to do with you?
When Alan wants your permission to post he’ll ask you, until then just fuck off.
Well, getting too close to some “young men of Indian descent” can have very “unhealthy” consequences, can’t it?
This and other blogs have drawn attention to numerous events that the BBC has either played down or ignored completely. But, deep down, you already know this don’t you?
Wrong Will!
Tell me the last time that a sap like Ed Stourton told one of his guests
“I think that you`re being extremely brave”.
It would be condescending, biased oligeneous carpet crawling , had a BBC hack said this of anybody else…but seeing as it`s an Islam shill…on goes the pith helmet and the public school patronage…smeared on like Black and White Minstrel greasepaint.
OH-not only that Will-but he used the word “nutters” when Ansar the Fearless Sword of Taqqiya used it in regard of Al Shabab.
Now will-will YOU tell the mental health advocacy groups and get Ed to apologise for stigmatising passionate Muslims?
Or shall we just get those costumes for Hallowe`een put back on the shelves?
I expect no reply…plenty lefty tumbleweed, pursed lips and bad body language though!
Beeboid hypocrisy again:
a.) Islamic jihadists called ‘nutters’ by Muslim is ‘brave’;
b.) Islamic jihadists called ‘nutters’ by Non-Muslim is ‘Islamophobic’.
Agree except
On b), I would replace “Islamophobia” with “FAR RIGHT RACIST”. If one can put in “NAZI” somewhere, even better.
Can you imagine INBBC’s Muslim Head of Religious Programming, Aaqil Ahmed, ‘getting’ the jokes, publicly, about any banned comedy series involving Islam?:-
“‘If the Life of Brian was made today it would flop’:
BBC boss says Britain has become a nation of religious illiterates who wouldn’t get the biblical jokes”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2467232/BBC-boss-says-Monty-Python-film-The-Life-Of-Brian-lost-modern-audiences-Britains-poor-religious-literacy.html
Suppose that`s why we`ve got a second series of Citizen Khan.
Where we all “get the jokes”.
Unfortunately not only are there no jokes-but it`s a nasty racist and deeply patronising piece of ordure.
That only the BBC are qualified and capable of making.
S`pose there`s no chance of Mind Your Language is there?…I know it`s ITV, but it was less offensive than Khan.
Jokes about Islam? I once saw some very funny cartoons!
They were met with a lot of faux outrage by certain folk, cant think why!
I think those folk were burning books and killing people to demonstrate how wrong it was to associate violence with the Religion of Peace(c).
Following my joke last week about the Holy Qur’an, and the large number of private messages from Muslim members of this site that followed it, I would like to make the following statement:
“Islam is a religion based on peace, love and respect, and this is the central message of the Qur’an. As such I offer a full apology for making the claim that it encourages suicide bombing and violence.”
OK, there – I said it. Now can you please stop sending me death threats?
faux outrage ? Dozens of buildings burnt down,
cant remember how many dead, and the cartoonist in hiding under armed police protection- in his own country.
Just rewind history back to the publication of The Satanic Verses, and see how much protection Salman Rushdie needed.
That ought to have been a wake-up call for us, but the liberal lefties wanted him hung out to dry.
Where was the outrage that should have come from the literati? Came there none, they all thought, serve him right.
It harks back to the old chestnut of
‘ first they came for the Jews……etc’
One day all the scum who see no danger here will feel the cold steel of islam across the neck.
Yes DP111, it was the outrage that was faux.
The actions in response not faux at all, as you outline.
The outrage is frequently orchestrated amongst people who have never seen the supposed offensive material.
“According to the Independent, Mr Ahmed claimed that comedians don’t make more jokes about Islam because the religion is so poorly understand by large sections of the British public”
Correction it is understood only too well …
Mumbai – Madrid … hilarious,
7/7 – 9/11 … be still my aching ribs,
Westgate – Kenya … tee hee
Murdering sleeping school children or
people coming out of church …. ha ha ha
FGM – Honour Killing hee hee
gang-raping children oh somebody stop me
etc etc etc etc.
the penchant for lying, cheating, genocidal fascism to achieve world domination directly from the “holy”? texts.
proclaiming a lying antisemitic mass murdering child rapist with a mental illness as an ultimate rolemodel?.
i mean … laugh … i thought i d never start
mind you … that said
the BBC consistently trying to sanitize all of the above … something very funny about that
Speaking of comedy and comics
Circus ordered to take down posters after ONE complaint from a woman who is scared of clowns
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2465972/Circus-ordered-posters-ONE-complaint-woman-scared-clowns.html#ixzz2iGZ3xi9y
Ayatollah Khomeini stated that there is no humour in Islam.
Islam is “deadly” serious. Comedy is definitely haram.
these gutless spineless politacaly correct politicians and so called media commentators tread on politcaly correct eggshells why we have all theses problems with islamic terrorism in this country,the cause is simple for even a blind man to see,its all down to mass immigration simple as that,we did not have all these problems 15 or 20 years ago when muslims were in a tiny small minority in this country,why do we have all these problems now,its simpe,when new labour opened the floodgates of mass immigration in 1997 who was the people that came over here in there millions not including the uknown number of bogus asylum seekers,yes it was immigration from muslim countrys like pakistan and somalia,.who do we have all these problems with now in england concerning terrorism,not polish or eu citixens but pakistanis and somalians,the root cause of all this islamic extremism in the uk mass immigration from muslim countrys where people hate and despise are way of life and culture but dont mind taking the free benefits like housing, heatth service etc,mass immigration = terrorism simple as that.
Talking to Ajmar Masroor Stourton tells him:
‘I have to say you’re being extremely brave.’
I’m agape,my lower jaw hangs slack—
Shouldn’t this dangerous fool Stourton be removed from the licence payers back pocket and fired,sans severance pay and pension?
Why? Because he asked a Q?
It was not a question; it was a statement.
a statement of admiration to be more acurate, to someone who, by all the evidence, appears to be a radical islamic supremisist
‘I have to say you’re being extremely brave.’
Then he must think that Tommy Robinson deserves the George Medal
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2013/10/police-tell-ex-edl-leader-consider-moving-house-for-your-own-safety/
This is only the latest in a long line of credible death threats he and his family have received, but I recall anyone from the BBC commending him on his courage
Ah, but… maybe it was a different set of standards? If unique ones.
Apparently some”Asian” 12 year-old is terrorising female students around Manchester University…the library was mentioned as well as another sexual assault.
Sorry to be so vague-the BBC mentioned it on the 9am news this morning on the radio, but haven`t heard or come across any further details.
Doesn`t mean that the BBC haven`t been leading with it all day, but I doubt it somehow.
If I were a Sikh, Hindu or Chinese-I`d be looking very carefully at that catch-all “Asian”.
The BBC have form on treating Asia as a toned monoculture-because they`re sure as Shiatan that they`ll not be tentatively impugning the Religion of Peace. of Citizen Khan and BBC head of Religious Affairs.
Is the 12 year old a Muslim Beeb?…so I can eliminate him from my generalities and enquiries?
Just seen it on their newsboard-so I`m happy now.
On multiculturalism and the rest it is pointless listening to the BBC. It is wasting your time. The BBC’s position is self evident as it is on all liberal fantasies.
Today I heard someone say and not prompted by me that the BBC is the fount of all the nonsense that spews out on a daily basis. He said the real crux of the problem is that the majority still believe the BBC is trustworthy and has no agenda.
Control of the agenda sets the tone of our public discourse. The BBC/liberal establishment is well aware of this.
I notice that the trolls turn up on certain key issues. Not really surprising. It is essential that we no longer engage with them.
Trolls should not be fed, though sometimes it’s difficult not to respond.
Two no doubt sincere instructions.
Given the overnights seem to have spawned around three new ones, with at least one trying the ‘I was a lurking retired Tory postmistress from Cheam until I came here simply seeking solace from a dodgy Strictly result, but you are all beastly men too…’ route, one has to wonder how effective the touch toes and hope for England approach (and metaphor for much else) will hold up?
The best way of course is not to write anything that attracts default distraction or denial of service waves.
But that would essentially mean ceasing to criticise the BBC for unprofessionalism, inaccuracy, lack of objectivity and possessing zero integrity.
The cause/effect metaphor there is presumably clear, especially in a country where turning the other cheek sees the two that are BBC/Graun control policy? Which they, many pols, Leveson, #HackedOff, etc are well on course to arranging as others stay aloof from their methods.
This will make things difficult in future.
the desperate defenders of multicuturism are in a very small minority now, but they get still get to much airtime in the media to defend this disaster called diversity and multicuturism that they have imposes on us
http://www.lbc.co.uk/inmates-bullied-into-converting-to-islam-79958…this is why they call it the religion of peace