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  1. Guest Who says:
    November 12, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Most posts from this site are of value, but this one just stood out that bit more for what the BBC is pulling, and getting away with, more and more, namely one-degree of separation advocacy with little or no restraint or correction.
    http://bbcwatch.org/2013/11/12/why-we-need-to-talk-about-the-bbcs-promotion-of-middle-east-conspiracy-theories/
    ‘An article by Abdel Bari Atwan, and it isn’t true.

    Too late for correction.’
    OK, hands up. I don’t know what’s true or not, as of this moment.
    But I know who has form and who I now tend to believe.
    And it is not the BBC… and its shills, which it deploys left, left, and left of centre at whim to spout whatever BS they think they can get away with, which bearing in mind is a one year road to hell via CECUTT to even ‘correct’, is a fair old bunch.
    At the very best, they may… eventually change it if caught bang to rights.
    Otherwise it will be weasels at dawn culminating in a ‘spread of views’ and an ‘about right’ blow off.
    The BBC is supposed to be there to hold power to account. See the truth held up to the light.
    Not seek every lame propagandists whose jib cut they fancy and give ’em a freaking free pulpit.

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  2. chrisH says:
    November 12, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Hear there`s a “File On Four” thing coming up soon tonight that “examines the role” of the likes of Virgin and Serco in “delivering private health care under the NHS banner”…or suchlike.
    The BBC poppet running this piece tells me in the trailer that she found it so hard to get any help in finding out more.
    Poor lamb…didn`t her Labour Party come up with that “client confidentiality” or “commercial reasons” for such smokescreens?
    Oh-and because neither Serco or Virgin had any role in the mid-Staffs scandals of thousands dying under NHS auspices…without private scrutiny, let alone any show of interest from File on Four…I think I`ll take my chances with the weirdy beardie and his hostess trolley…and not the BBCs beloved NHS..if that`s alright with popsie later on.
    Andy Burnham hiding amongst the bedpans still is he?

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  3. Kipling's Favourite Slice says:
    November 12, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Funny how the BBC are happy to give the thumbs up to a tenuous link between natural disasters and global warming and yet they can’t seem to make the glaring link between Muslims and child-rape.

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  4. John Anderson says:
    November 12, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    The President of the Phillipines now says that the TOTAL death toll looks likely to be under 2500 – not the 10,000 that the BBC was trumpeting for just a single area.

    So – the amateur website WattsUpWithThat has given better death-toll reports than the huge BBC machine. And the website has explained in detail why the Typhoon is NOT induced by climate-change and is not such an enormous deal anyway, not is there any trend towards worse weather there. It just happened that this struck a city, like the Oklahoma City storm earlier this year – landfall elsewhere would have resulted in less damage.

    The BBC – once again – should be ashamed of itself.

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    • Stewart says:
      November 12, 2013 at 7:56 pm

      If they saw their primary function as reporting the news then they would be.
      But they don’t ,so their not.

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    • Charlatans says:
      November 12, 2013 at 9:22 pm

      Understand a lot of people on this site quite rightly have some pessimism the way climate change is dealt with by BBC and in msm.

      But on this Philippines scale of terrible tragedy, not sure that we all ought to show a little sensitive restraint and not be so quick to jump to conclusions like number of dead and effects of climate change, since there are a lot of intelligent people out there who think that some of the strongest winds ever recorded, might well be proved later to be due to climate change. Certainly that is the feeling in the Philippines.
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/philippines/10443293/Typhoon-Haiyan-Philippines-climate-change-commissioner-breaks-down-at-UN-talks.html

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      • AsISeeIt says:
        November 12, 2013 at 10:02 pm

        ‘…that is the feeling in the Philippines.’
        I’m sorry but do you want to talk about science, or do you want us to have sympathy for the victims of a natural disaster?
        Tell us Charlatan, are you asking for us to separate the two debates or are you yourself (and the BBC) mixing them?

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      • John Anderson says:
        November 13, 2013 at 12:51 am

        It was the BBC that jumped to conclusions about the number of deaths – now totally contrradicted by the President of the Phillipines.

        And it is the BBC that keeps tryi ng to drag in the climate-change myth, when there is ample evidence that storms of this magnitude are not unusual in this region and there has been no increase in frequency of storms since the 1970s.

        So – on both counts the BBC is inaccurate. Or lying.

        It can no longer be trusted to report the news properly.

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  5. Dave666 says:
    November 12, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Watching the 6 O’clock news. Main news the Philippines disaster. The people have to look after themselves. Where is the relief aid? Thank God then the BBc has turned up. Who needs supplies when you have a reporter and a film crew flying around in a helicopter.

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    • Geoff says:
      November 12, 2013 at 8:58 pm

      Even the main point on my local Points West tonight …. “The West’s Filipino community waits for news from home….”

      WTF did nothing happen in the South West today?

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  6. Chris says:
    November 12, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    I have a dream. A dream in which all people Black, White, Asian, Muslim and every other race and creed storm the racial and religious hate factory that is the BBC. Then string every Labour politician, past, and present from the nearest lamp post.

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  7. Guest Who says:
    November 12, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Can’t fault the reporting of another’s news..
    —
    @BBCNews: Independent: “Taxpayers foot bill as BBC boss who authorised big pay-offs sues union for libel” http://t.co/E2vy2wek9l #BBCpapers
    —-

    … But can’t help but feel they still seem pretty oblivious as to what actually hits ordinary folk outside that rarified bubble means.

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  8. Leha says:
    November 13, 2013 at 7:12 am

    The bBC would like to apologise for sensationalising its output in the Phillipines, we thought we had it “about right” with 10,000 dead in one area alone. We shall be withdrawing our many reporters and camera crews from the area today.

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  9. Thoughtful says:
    November 13, 2013 at 7:31 am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2504472/Fears-civil-unrest-Sheffield-locals-action-Roma-migrants.html

    So Patrols of Pakistani men will be ‘teaching Roma the British way’ !

    First of all can you imagine the outcry if a group of white British men formed a gang to teach Roma ‘British ways’.

    Somehow though, however carefully the Mail has written this article we know that there will be an element of coercion and intimidation, there might also be some religious intolerance creeping in too. As the top of the hierarchy of isms, and with the fascists belief that ‘Muslims must never be criticised no matter what they do’ unless someone is injured it’s unlikely anyone dares to do or say anything against it.

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    • noggin says:
      November 13, 2013 at 9:41 am

      “Patrols of Pakistani men will be ‘teaching Roma the British way” ?*!?!?
      did they forget to add, as the angry mob soon gathered?

      examples …
      we “muslim” – you “kafir”
      move away from the mosque now!
      this is a muslim! … area
      no pork allowed?
      want to sell your children?
      we abuse and gang rape them anyway?

      you couldn t make it up

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  10. Thoughtful says:
    November 13, 2013 at 8:12 am

    The BBC reports that there has been a bumper harvest of opium in Helmand province Afghanistan. It did not go on to say that much of this will end up in the UK to be sold by the usual suspects.

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  11. Kyoto says:
    November 13, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Former ‘journalist’ with the Quisling Broadcasting Company urging unions to use press laws to close down criticism of the unions http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2504796/Labour-candidate-Clive-Lewis-urges-unions-use-Press-law-silence-critical-newspapers.html.

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    • David Kay says:
      November 13, 2013 at 11:45 am

      Not just a journalist

      “Mr Lewis, the candidate for Norwich South, describes himself on his Twitter account as a ‘proud socialist’ and former BBC reporter.”

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  12. Beeboidal says:
    November 13, 2013 at 11:18 am

    5 Live’s jaunt to Brazil was almost worth it for a nice bit of self-pwning. Trailed for a week as coming form “the spiritual home of football”, a Brazilian football expert told Victoria Derbyshire that the average crowd at a top division Brazilian football match is smaller than the average crowd at a Major League Soccer match in the US.

    Then there was the the interview with a mugger who explained how he and is gang will operate during the World Cup. They will be “targeting gringos,” according to 5 Live’s translation of the Portuguese. I’m not sure I like the use of the word ‘gringo’ here. If he had used a different racial epithet, such as one beginning with ‘n’, would 5 Live have used it?

    The final score

    Biased BBC 2 Five Live 0
    Derbyshire OG 31
    A Gringo 89

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  13. chrisH says:
    November 13, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Oh , hats off to the Taliban….or would that be heads?
    The drugs production in Helmand has exceeded all expectations there at the BBC…and , no doubt: is organic and sustainable.
    Ideal for BBC dinner parties…and suitable accompaniment to the denigration of British soldiers who really should not have been so efficient in raising production targets.
    Always the soldiers fault isn`t it? Poor taliban are exceeding expectations, but the British Army are to blame.
    If only those soldiers up for gun possession and for “murder of a taliban psycho” had brought back some Afghan powders for the media dinner tables…and not bothered fighting or defending the country from the likes of the taliban.
    Hope they`ll begin to save us all from the BBC, now they know the nature of The Beast.

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    • David Kay says:
      November 13, 2013 at 12:33 pm

      no wonder beeboids love the taliban. To the left wing scumbags at the BBC, the taliban aren’t just freedom fighters, they’re also eco warrirors.

      Just think of how much CO2 is absorbed from growing poppies. How bad would the climate catastrophy be without the taliban? That typhoon would have been a 100 times worse. Nobel peace prize to the taliban me thinks

      and the druggies at al beeb get high quality smack as well. winners all round

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  14. George R says:
    November 13, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Supplementary to earlier Comments on ‘Independent’ report:-

    ‘Telegraph’ (£):-

    “BBC human resources director Lucy Adams using licence fee money to pay legal fees.
    “The BBC is paying Lucy Adams’s legal costs after a trade union made claims of a ‘dirty tricks’ campaign by her department.”

    [Excerpt]-

    “A BBC human resources director accused of presiding over ‘corporate fraud and cronyism over pay-offs to former executives is using licence fee money to pay her legal costs after a trade union made claims of a “dirty tricks” campaign by her department.
    “Lucy Adams, who is leaving her £320,000 role in March, was severely criticised by MPs on the Public Accounts Committee when she gave evidence in July about the controversial severance deals with senior BBC managers, including the £1 million paid to former deputy director general Mark Byford.
    “Conservative MP Stewart Jackson said the practice would be called ‘corporate fraud and cronyism’ in any other organisation.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10445567/BBC-human-resources-director-Lucy-Adams-using-licence-fee-money-to-pay-legal-fees.html

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