The week begins, and so a new open thread … enjoy …
And as the Mandelathon continues, just remember that I’m sadder than all of you, I’ve shed more tears than all of you, so therefore I’m better than all of you.
“Mandela touched everyone who met him.” So did Jimmy Savile…
Anyone suspicious that the Mandela worship is being intentionally whipped up beyond even BBC psycho levels to drown this out?- http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/suncolumnists/trevorkavanagh/5313208/trevor-kavanagh-column-the-bbc-and-jimmy-savile-accountability-journalism.html
i think the beeboid journalists are going way OTT because they think they can get some sort of journalistic prize/award for the best report on the death of Mandela, Patron saint of terrorism
I think the hysterical coverage was guaranteed whatever.
Never watch daytime TV but if I was an OAP and missing Cash in the Attic or whatever because of the Mandela coverage this morning id be a little pissed off.
Why TF when with the arrival of digital TV do the BBC think it necessary to carry it on BBC2 and BBC News? If they must why not just on the Red Button for the 0.0001% who give a fuck.
The definition of Mandela… today (Tuesday) the BBC have launched five new HD television channels on Freeview, Freesat, Sky etc. They were not scheduled to launch until January. A very commendable effort – well done chaps for bringing it in a month ahead of schedule. And how especially welcome that it’s in time for the extended funeral coverage of Mandela, which we can all now enjoy in glorious high definition on BBC ‘News’. It’s a most joyous happy coincidence.
A simple point:
So here we are several days into the carefully pre-planned fortnight-long Mandela Fest on the BBC.
It seems very clear to me that this ultimately rather bland – if fauning – saturation coverage has little to do with the interests and wishes of the TV Licence Payers.
It is on the contrary very much to do with the tastes and interests of the Left-leaning media elite which runs the BBC. The quantity and tone of coverage stems from this elite’s desire to hector and lecture the Licence Payer into a certain way of thinking about the world.
Indeed. I turned off Today as I simply couldn’t stand any more of John Humphrys in Johannesburg telling me a stadium was filling up and what famous face had been seen. I’d tuned in hoping to hear some news.
Perhaps we can start a game here of who can list the most Beeboids they’ve heard or seen who have
added to global warmingpedalled over to South Africa.It was clearly evident in the presenters that the BBC were using from South Africe on Breakfast News this morning.
In the minute or two I saw, Alagiah was inside the stadium and Myrie outside, by using these two the BBC are clearly setting an agenda.
It’s actually turning rather hilarious, in a slo-mo media car crash kind of way.
There are so many of them there, tripping over each other, when there really is so little to fill out the vast expanse of dead air they have created around themselves, they are now starting to really sound utterly deranged.
Twitter is a treat, as they’ve taken to posting pictures of each other enjoying the atmosphere of the stadium. Party on, dudes!
There’s also a claim (unconfirmed) that a senior anchor has asked some local moppets what they are doing there.
The comic potential seems assured, though may be of a variety HIGNFY tend to ignore.
Meanwhile, up North, a lone Ch4 reporter seems to be handling the West’s reporting cover on CAR.
And it seems a good day to bury Panorama again.
R5L 8.05am…..did Rachel (freebie) Burden actually say “I can smell barbequing meat”…was there a pile of tyres nearby?
It’s turning into a vast national treasure version of ‘Black Maria’ (the card game, I hasten to add; also alliterively known as ‘Hunt the Queen of Spades’… No way this explanation will end well).
The BBC has assembled a vast hulk and shoved it off the slipway, only to sink everything in sight as it starts to head under too.
Their only chance is to brazen it out and hope to obliterate any other news so the public actually comes to accept it was, is and will always be the greatest event in history, and they all had to be there to capture the sights, sounds, feelings and, it appears… Smells.
Ms. Burden, we salute you.
Hunt the BBC slip of the tongue, I remember it well…
Speaking of which, is Mr. Marr joining Mr. Naugthie at the knees up?
5Live this morning and the continuing sycophancy is truly sickening.
Dame Nicky wondering whether that with Madiba’s (it has to be Madiba) passing the South African nation has “crossed a psychological bridge” – give me strength.
The Dame also giving us a who’s who at the memorial service – nearly shot his load when he espied Naomi Campbell, that paragon of virtue – Charles Taylor anyone?
Burden’s at the service – “just listen to this” she invites the audience as she holds the mic to the crowd. It’s for insightful commentary like this that makes the TV tax worth paying.
What a shame it’s fucking pissing down………
‘What a shame it’s fucking pissing down………’
Perhaps we have the 5 Live crew to thank for bringing their little bit Salford with them to the other side of the world…
Mind you, I find it always rains at funerals…. what’s that? This isn’t the funeral yet…?
Oh for a Mark Anthony: I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him…
I inadvertently switched over to “Your Call” to hear Nikki
Panto flippantly mention the rise of the …
“Far Left”? in S.A. and their promise to kill all the Boer? , to his shame, he didn t even bat an eyelid, just erm, passing conversation, before blubbering on, we are about to be graced with “the spine-tingling”? emotive? S.A. national anthem? …
How strange … can you even imagine, even envisage the response to … a party now wanting to state “kill all of the blacks”, or maybe over here to “kill all of the Paki s”?
would it get, passing conversion?, flippant throw away remark? status on the BBC?,
Of course not!. they would go into instant meltdown,
and divert all of their airtime to castigation
the world turned upside down, mind you no surprise they constantly heap praise on the hateful ideology
that wants the Jewish nation exterminated, and consistently attempts the same on any Christian minorities … BBC … there are no words
“a curious blind spot. Mandela fought against an unjust system built upon racial prejudice. His struggle is easy enough to support from twenty-first century armchairs, when the oppressive system is long dead and no one in his right mind would support it or call for its revival. But! … oppression and injustice are by no means dead on the African continent – they’re just now coming from a different source”
indeed
Have you heard? Nelson Mandela’s dead!
Obama’s not arrived yet…..hint of Secret Service trouble on route? mmmm wonder whats going on?
BBC are making excuses for the lack of people at the Mandela memorial service. The stadium is almost empty. It’s raining, no day off work for people etc etc. No camera long shots ,though one did slip through on a TV screen during a Beeb-Beeb live chat. Just as well the BBC sent so many staff,it makes up for the fall.
‘BBC are making excuses for the lack of people at the Mandela memorial service. ‘
Heard a great one earlier.
Seems the inhabitants of his ‘hood are ‘going about their business…. showing their respects in their own quiet way’.
So that would be like most folk then?
As opposed for the political-media pack determined to make even bigger prats of their bubble-head existences than usual.
Still tons of tasty African crumpet broadcasting on ImLive adult cams.
“the inhabitants of his ‘hood are ‘going about their business”
‘Liberating’ stuff from the houses of those who’ve gone? Mugabe would be proud of them — if he had any pride left that’s not used up on himself.
Obama has arrived, spoke about the ‘Giant of History’ and shook hands with Raul Castro. Pity about the rain but it is a good excuse for the poor turn out. Still, there are enough of the white BBC team to pose for the cameras indicating a white SA gathering of mourners.
No sign of Cameron yet. He will probably announce a huge donation of UK taxpayer’s money in order to grab a headline and please the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25311513
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25311513
This photo sums up how the BBC are feeling…..slightly empty.
Did Gordon Brown speak?
The 3 overspill stadiums were empty. If they were expecting so many people to attend, shouldnt the main stadium be full notwithstanding the dodgy weather?
I hear the attendance numbers were overseen by the BBC Trust, and they thought the organisers had got it about right.
Rain stopped pray, eh?
They should have held it in Southern California.
It wasn’t rain it was a “blessing”. That’s what they cheerily kept saying it was anyway.
Most coming out of the stadium later looked pretty cheesed off with the blessing though.
Looks pretty full in the cheap seats.
Maybe there was an international women’s footy match due too?
LOL, I had exactly the same thought. But at least at international women’s footy they try to fill up one side of the stadium and keep the cameras trained on that.
It has been a pretty poor turn out for the greatest human being who has ever lived.
The evil Fatch could draw a bigger crowd
Nowt evil about that woman!
Should’ve bloody cloned her!
Listened to Nicky Campbell this morning. He described the south African national anthem as wonderful and spine tingling. Wonder what his response to some Brit saying that about theirs would be?
Rachel Burden said excitedly she was looking forward to Obama and his speech etc. Campbell stepped in before her climax and pointed out there were going to be others there too.
Meanwhile, the current “shared” and “read” lists suggests that the public do not quite share the BBC obsession with all things Mandela.
Shared
1: Facebook develops ‘sympathise’ button
2: Warning over 4Chan Xbox One prank
3: Why don’t French books sell abroad?
4: The man who taught Mandela to be a soldier
5: How I learned to love the sari
Read
1: Man cleared over M5 fireworks deaths
2: Aldi ‘low-cost’ tablet sells out
3: Coldest spot on Earth identified
4: Sound of Music actress dies at 91
5: 10 dangerous things in Victorian/Edwardian homes
6: Comic Relief invested in arms trade
7: McKellen ‘urged not to go to Russia’
8: Six things you didn’t know about Nelson Mandela
9: Nelson Mandela memorial service
10: Tulisa charge and pension ‘sharks’ – the front pages
Well worth a screen grab, in case any inquiry seeks to go beyond internal, #foiexempted hive ‘belief’ into who the BBC purports to speak for vs. what the country seems to prefer hearing about.
The disconnect seems stark.
I look forward to Tone, Hugs, James, Danny, Ted et Al’s explanation once they get back from the slopes after the Xmas hols.
‘current “shared” and “read” lists ‘
Where are these? I can see watched, listened and read but not the former, and Google does no evil, so has refused to help me.
Meanwhile, in searching this cropped up I found interesting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/africahaveyoursay/2012/08/bbc-africa-have-your-say-blog.shtml
One comment, 3 weeks later, modded.
Then closed.
Whether they regret the closing or got it in just in time, who knows?
On the BBC News “Home” page, there is a “Most Popular” box, with “Shared” and “Read” tabs. (And a “Video/Audio” tab too, on which the memorial service is actually #1 at present, with “Singing and Dancing at the Memorial” at #9 for those who can’t get enough.)
Tx – my apology crossed as we typed.
Sergei, Larry… RD… I owe you an apology…
It was all in the search terms I used:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/live_stats/html/bysection.stm
This one down next in line simply reminded me of the BBC ‘The Editors’ thread:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/03/news_ticker_most_shared_and_mo.html
That’s this one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/
Now this one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs/the_editors/
It does have one new(ish) story at least, and on my browser has vanished the few there were prior.
Apt, given ‘news I never thought I’d hear’
At least Newsnight FaceBook is as cutting edge as ever too:
https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewsnight
Looks like the old Katz slipshod has spared many recent events and should indeed be lauded for this.
Never miss a chance to shoehorn in an anti-Israeli comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25311513
What, now with the ‘who isn’t keening and wailing’ being noted too?
And certain forum posters when they are getting desperate.
Reminds me of North Korea. Anyone in that stadium not streaming eyed better be careful. I bet there’s not a nose hair left in place in case of a telephoto across the pitch.
Lovely to see natively elusive Gordon ‘British Jobs For British Workers’ Brown slinking off abroad to go see some fabulous foreigners yet again, rather than be where he should be – locked away with Blair and bumbling Ballsup in a British prison cell!
I suppose his comedy act’s got to get bookings somewhere these days though. Poor bloody South Africans.
Sounds an absolute feckin shambles in that Soweto stadium!
Obamessiah will save the day though.
See behind the Obamessiah? They think he’s singing! lol
You’re not actually watching it, surely! 😯
Yes but on SKY though not Al-beeb. I’m mainly just admiring the strength of that upper tier and how it takes the tonnage of some of those women.
you d have to have a heart of stone 😀
well over half empty stadium,
it looks like they re giving speeches from a bus shelter,
absolutely p-ssing it down.
just take away
all the BBC freeloaders,
all the rest of American media there,
World media
all of the SA Government, dignitaries and their sycophants
The family, extended family
all of the erm “world leaders” –
their advisors
their security teams.
take ahem “showtime” away
have to say, the turn outs a bit like the weather
p-ss poor
So we learn from the Beeb that Zuma’s getting roundly booed. And thankfully VD keeps us informed that Zuma booed is trending on twitter (Phew! Thank the Lord for that)
Despite this though, the beeboid over in SA, James something or other, let’s us know that Mugabe gets loudly cheered.
He opines that “some” (get that, some…..a few, an irrelevant number really) around the world see Mugabe as a “villain” (get that, a villain……a panto nasty, boo hiss).
But others see him as another freedom fighter in liberating Africa – hence the adulation.
Words escape me.
If that’s Africans’ idea of liberation, they’re welcome to it. Just don’t expect me to cough up when it goes tits up.
But you can be sure the BBC will be banging the drum of post-colonial guilt when it does.
Can guarantee it!
Oh look, nearly time for my daily self-flogging session.
Ironic really.
Last time there was a memorial to mark the passing of a great leader, most of their countryfolk embraced the dignity of the occasion yet the BBC did all in its considerable power to screw the whole thing up and highlight the few stirrers & naysayers.
This time they are doing all in their power to get anyone to be convinced about the import of the occasion whilst flayling about to ‘explain away’ the actions of any less than convinced it’s an occasion for respect and quite reflection about the recently passed.
Be interesting to see if ‘I predict a riot’ heads for the Xmas No. 1, despite a BBC ban.
“Zuma and his Wives”
By R. W. Johnson.
(2010).
Click to access zuma%20wives.pdf
INBBC on Islamic jihadists and Syria.
INBBC has this:-
“Former French fighter in Syria: ‘We are all al-Qaeda'”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25299687
But INBBC doesn’t have this:-
“British jihadists try to entice other Muslims to Syria via social media”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/british-jihadists-try-to-entice-other-muslims-to-syria-via-social-media.html
“British jihadists try to entice other Muslims to Syria via social media”
Lucky the BBC has pretty much devolved all ‘news’ activity to FaceBook & twitter then.
‘We want your cannon fodd… er, views. Yes, let’s call ’em views’.
For those unifamiliar with the British Prime Minister he’s the one who looks looks attentive, respectful and deeply moved before bowing his head in silent contemplation of the Angry Birds on his i-phone.
Comrades fall out – no Comic matter. Article on BBC website to plug episode of Panorama – they have “learned” that some Comic Relief funds have been invested in arms and tobacco (as opposed to, say, feeding starving people). See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25273024. Very comprehensive article; yet, strangely enough, you would not receive any impression that the BBC has spent more than 20 years plugging this particular ‘charity’ with its enforced jollity and aging has-been ‘comedians’. One can only presume that the comrades have fallen out over something and this is the revenge?
Eartha Kitt’s on!
Is that rhyming slang ?
Don’t forget after the funeral on the 15th and the rest of next week reflecting on the funeral etc we will have it all again come the years review in the New Year!
Great article on realistic Future Privatisation and other Options of the BBC by knowledgeable Tim Congdon. The report is very long for those that prefer precis and sound bites, but still article rammed with facts and a good read.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#inbox/141a70e568a47efc
Charlatans – this is a link to gmail, not the piece itself. Did you mean this article?
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4395/scrap_the_licence_fee_and_privatise_the_bbc
oops = this is the correct link for my entry above http://standpointmag.co.uk/features-december-13-scrap-the-licence-fee-and-privatise-the-bbc-tim-congdon?page=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C5
Thanks David
Interesting stuff there. Unfortunately, it doesn’t really address the “National Treasure” obstacle. Also, while Congdon touches on the BBC’s desire for continued global expansion, he’s focused on the financial side of the issue and doesn’t question how that fits with the BBC’s remit. He doesn’t seem to realize just how much money the BBC makes elsewhere commercially. Worldwide earns more than enough to cover the cost of the World Service and all the golden parachutes they handed out to upper management. It’s not really a problem.
Instead, I’d be more interested in Congdon’s approach to the question of why the BBC needs to set up an original news broadcast in the US targeted directly at us. Lust for power and cash should be open to discussion just as much as whether or not to top-slice the license fee at home.
Jeremy Vine talking to Ken Bruce at 11.40 this morning……….”NM was the great person ever to walk this earth over the last century” followed by “David Cameron went on a business trip to South Africa during Apartheid, so how can he now praise Mandela? Discuss.”
I am livid!!!
NM was the great person ever to walk this earth over the last century followed by David Cameron…
surely not?!! 😉
One journalist was in Soweto giving me my local NW news FFS
I caught glimpses of the memorial service. Did anyone else notice that the coverage was full when Obama gave his speech? But once he finished the BBC decided to cut away to some of their reporters, so as to discuss how wonderful Obama was – conveniently ignoring subsequent orators.
Typical BBC: making a programme to suit themselves rather than providing an impartial service to the British nation.
To the BBC journalists and producers, though, the US President is an equally historic, symbolic figure. His skin color is His defining characteristic to them. So it’s only natural that He gets their full attention, and the believe He deserves yours as well. The content of His speech, all those platitudes and lofty dreams, isn’t all that important. A white President giving the exact same speech is meaningless. This is about race, and only race. Ignore the content of both men’s character, please, and focus on race.
No, actually, scratch that. To the BBC, their race is the content of their character. It’s what makes them pure.
Just had my LinkedIn sitsvac update. This one seems to have been, a) advertised ex-bubble and b) doesn’t seem to be getting filled too quickly:
Editor, BBC Somali- Global News & World
BBC
London, United Kingdom
Can’t think why.
It doesn’t look like they need to actually go anywhere near.
Just talking to someone who I know & bemoaning the coverage, she said ‘well look at what he did!”
I replied “what did he do?”
“He stopped apartheid”
“No that was De Clerk prompted by Margaret Thatcher”
“Huh well I didn’t like her”!
Jeez, apologies if that has been mentioned already, but the BBC are planning a mention of Mandela in Eastenders and a Question Time special from Johannesburg.
Jeez, did Thatcher get a mention in Eastenders? She was far more divisive to the majority of the audience than bloody Mandela, at least they knew who she was.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25298699
I had hoped that one unexpected benefit from the old terrorist’s demise would be repeats of Only Fools and Horses, where Del Boy and Rodney lived in Nelson Mandela House, Peckham. No more tenuous a link than most of those currently being peddled from the bBBC staff in South Africa
having a nice free holidayreporting the most important news in the history of the universe.Watching the Mandela memorial really underlines not just the BBCs bias, but that of much of the media, and how they take an editorial view and seek evidence to back up that point and no other.
It’s only when the camera angles tell the inconvenient truth, as they have today, it starts to seep out and even then the spin continues.
Watching the ceremony, with senior members of the ANC roundly booed, and with a stadium as full as a Middlesvrough home game, the Utopian idyll of the Rainbow nation seems slightly less colourful. The people know the reality, just as we do here.
The truth, as we all know, is that South Africa is a work in progress walking a tightrope between a successful modern democracy one one side and a Marxist hell on the other.
In light of the reality in the townships and across the nation the promotion of Mandela by the press as a Jesus figure is somewhat premature.
As usual the media managed to get the tone entirely wrong.
Woah, woah, woah!!! What’s all this Middlesbrough home game nonsense?
How dare you compare the stomach churning outpouring of sycophantic grief with the thousands, nay millions, nay billions that proudly flock to the Riverside week in week out?
Us smoggys are suitably offended – expect an imminent visit from HM Constabulary “Hate Crime Division”.
It’s odd how we attribute things such as “Rainbow nation” to South Africa. In one of the choral pieces, during the memorial, there wasn’t one white face singing. Now whites make up 9% in SA. Blacks/mixed merely 5% in the UK. Yet you would never see a choral piece on the BBC that didn’t include ample numbers of people from non white groups.
So is SA backward in things like that or the BBC overly sensitive to including various groups?
‘In one of the choral pieces, during the memorial, there wasn’t one white face singing
Maybe they self-directed to different locations?
Couldn’t be they were unwelcome or not invited.
A good day to….
BBC News Channel, where the BBC happily quote Barrack Obama – Nelson Mandela “Giant of History”
Oh, and at the memorial show attendance was in the ’10s of thousands’ Odd that there was no figure put on the crowd size. We know it is a 95,000 seater stadium.
The story, as so often, is in the hints and small remarks – seems the weather was a bit rainy.
And another thing… it is a good day today to (you know what with bad news) the PR spin doctors are in melt down today falling over one another to flush out the bad news.
Already I hear that Britain’s first official pantomime marriage will be be ‘celebrated’ in March.
And BBC Panorama will at last air their Comic Relief story.
If it’s all the same to everyone here, I’d like to excuse myself from all displays of false public grief/gratitude over the life and death of ‘Madiba’. The thing is, and I was the same with Diana, I didn’t particularly give a toss about him. I didn’t consider him to be a particularly great man. He certainly didn’t touch or change my life in any way. To me, he was a man. Nothing more.
What really irks me about the Nelson Mandela show, is the fact that the left apparently expects everyone to be, at the very least, respectful over his death. They’d prefer it if we deified him, Evan Davies certainly thinks we should, but respect is the bare minimum. And these would be the same left wing toe rags who showed absolutely no respect toward Baroness Thatcher when she died. In fact, I remember the open delight with which the left greeted the news of her demise. All the parties and ding dong the witch is dead glee. Scum was how I described them. Still do.
So forgive me if I politely decline the invitation to mourn/celebrate the life/death of Nelson Mandela. However, for those who do wish to join in, and it seems that several tens of thousands do, might I suggest that you all build a huge replica of Mandela’s anus. That way, you can all show your love by kissing his ring.
Remember how the BBC chose to give prominent air time to the Sinn Fein leader to comment when Mrs Thatcher died? And what did they expect him to say?
Maybe if the BBC has a quiet moment during the Mandela memorial they can remind viewers of this
“Mandela, now 94 and in poor health, no longer makes public statements. Sello Hatang, spokesman for the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory, responded to Thatcher’s death by saying the organisation would “like to pass on condolences to family and friends on the sad news of her passing”
(http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/08/south-africa-margaret-thatcher-death)
As for the great man himself while he was still making statements
“Mandela said: “She is an enemy of apartheid… We have much to thank her for.” ”
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/the-terrorist-and-the-tories-what-did-nelson-mandela-really-think-of-margaret-thatcher-8990872.html)
The truth is that both Thatcher and Mandela were great leaders, but the contrast in the BBC coverage of both leaders shows how biased and corrupt it has become.
Well there used to be, and probably still is, a bust on the South Bank, there’s a statue in Parliament Square (nice sense of irony), and I understand there’s also a plaque in the 900 year old Westminster Hall. That’s not counting buildings and streets all over the bloody place.
Clearly insufficient. I predict a resurrection of the debate over the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square within the next few weeks.
Happy New Year!
Yep, Bacon practically pissing his knicks over the impending onslaught of gay “marriages” next year.
Would be interesting if burdon could garner the views of some of the African leaders on the subject?
South Africa’s current President likes marriage so much that one wife simply isn’t enough. I don’t object but what does the sisterhood in the BBC think?
Bacon droning on and on about the Guardian and Heston again,
Right pair of tossers with him too, and they all talk to each other about TV.
For crying out loud, someone put the twat out of his (and our) misery … or sack him
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ilyas-tallat-ashar-jailed-sentences-6390923
Well the BBC did report this in a passing fashion, but lets see if they can manage to report the latest chapter.
Most right thinking people believe that the couples possessions should have been sold and given to their victim, but that would inconvenience their kids and we all know that we can’t have the brown eyed favourites inconvenienced in any way at all.
Apropos of the BBC’s presenters Mandela coverage….
Today I noted this poster for a commercial cold and flu remedy
http://www.coloribus.com/adsarchive/prints/day-night-nurse-gig-18490555/resizes/1024/
“If I miss this gig my friends will think I’ve gone mainstream!”
http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_1849/18490555/file/day-night-nurse-gig-1024-33486.jpg
A moral maze issue for Beeboids?:-
“Bulgarian jihadis: ‘If the sodomite Elton John dares to appear…maybe you will encounter some surprises'”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/bulgarian-jihadis-if-the-sodomite-elton-john-dares-to-appearmaybe-you-will-encounter-some-surprises.html
My best friend and I had an offer of cheap British Airways tickets 15 years ago. After paying for the tickets all we could afford was 8 days in the country – enough to do the Garden Route and a few days in Cape Town. One night in the old Mount Nelson hotel, but the rest down near the waterfront in cheap accommodation. No lavish lunches or dinners.
I have travelled a lot since then, but have never been able to finance another trip to South Africa as against other touring. So I deeply resent that we are paying for so many BBC people to have a jolly over there – living high on the hog, no doubt. Just another personal reason to object to the BBC’s ridiculous Mandela-fest.
The BBC budget for it all in SA ? Millions of pounds ?
We did the Garden Route tour along the southern coast by train and buses. Three taxi rides in the whole trip. The BBC will be clocking up hundreds and hundreds of taxi fares.
Yes.
How many Beeboids are:-
a.) already in South Africa,
b.) and how many more will be there on Sunday?
And how much of British people’s money is HALL planning to spend on the ‘M’ event?
‘Telegraph’ (£):-
“BBC sends 100 staff to South Africa for Nelson Mandela memorial.
“More than 100 members of the BBC have been sent out to cover the memorial service to Nelson Mandela in the same week that the corporation received more than 1,000 complaints about neglecting local news to cover his death.”
By Claire Carter.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10508744/BBC-sends-100-staff-to-South-Africa-for-Nelson-Mandela-memorial.html
[Excerpt from above]:-
“Far fewer staff were dedicated to the coverage on other channels, with nine people including a presenter, correspondents and camera operator from ITV sent out to South Africa.
A spokeswoman for the BBC said: ‘Over a ten-day period we expect to have deployed around 120 journalists, technicians and support staff to work on this huge international story. They are providing coverage of events from a number of different locations across TV, radio and online. We will begin to scale back our deployment on Wednesday.
”As always we have sought to ensure maximum value for money for the Licence Fee payer in planning the deployment.”
(Ha!)
”As always we have sought to ensure maximum value for money for the Licence Fee payer in planning the deployment.”
What a load of absolute bollox
”As always we have sought to ensure maximum value for money for the Licence Fee payer in planning the deployment.”
Given the singular lack of interest shown by 99.999% of unique funders as evidenced by RD’s links, is that refreshing honesty on the part of the BBC, or just their crafty semantics at play?
Well it was at least not 500. That would just be crazy. Or a sports event.
As it is, apparently only ten times the number of others to do the precise same job.
Sounds like they got it just about right after all.
I wonder what these ‘spokesmen’ sound like with their tongues stuck so far into their cheeks?
I guess that doesn’t include the production staff of Question Time and guests expenses for the QT special from Johannesburg on Thursday?
And how many staff to cover the anti-Christian massacres in the Central African Republic?
So Margaret Thatcher cannot be cited as an enemy of Mandela. Ah, but those nasty Republicans, following Reagan, kept the peace loving ANC on the terrorist list until 2008.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22006386
On the R4 4pm news headline was what Obama said at Mandela’s memorial. Obviously no one else spoke then? Or is this more White House PR passed off as BBC news?
‘Obviously no one else spoke then?’
Wait… Obama spoke, I get that, but… Mandela is dead too???!
“Abusing the charity of the British public”
By DAILY MAIL COMMENT.
[Excerpt]:-
…” it’s the BBC’s examination of its own flagship Comic Relief programme – which pulled in £100million this year alone – that raises the most troubling questions.
“Repeatedly, the celebrities involved in the hugely popular Comic Relief project assure viewers that ‘every penny goes straight to those who need it’.
“Yet Panorama found that its armies of staff (it now employs almost 300 people, at a cost of £17million a year) have been sitting on £100million – much of it invested in cigarette and alcohol companies and even a global arms manufacturer!”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2521115/Abusing-charity-British-public.html#ixzz2n5dzZq3Y
Pure OT, T, but had to savour the call-outs to the right of the piece, including ‘grieving celebrities’, when most seem to be grinning ear to ear.
“it now employs almost 300 people, at a cost of £17million a year”
My aunt took it upon herself (as what she saw as her Christian duty) to get involved in a homeless charity (not Shelter) and my Uncle (who is an Independent reader and well to the Left of me) was shocked by the cynicism of the charity “professionals” he encountered – in a direct analogy with the BBC the more people talk about the social justice the more likely they are to be filling their own pockets. There are some remarkable people out there but most of them have little or nothing to do with charity “professionals”, who are attracted to charities precisely because it helps them disguise their essential parasitism.
They’ve been daft enough to open up comments on a Mandela story.
Get yours in quick, before closing at 4:55. So far, it’s not going terribly well for them.
-from Littlejohn, today:-
“Me, Me, Me Nelson Mandela.”
“Production of Porta-shrines was stepped up at the weekend as people rushed to make the death of Nelson Mandela all about themselves. In Glasgow, they even had a candlelit vigil, complete with teddy bears and flowers.
“The BBC went berserk, clearing the schedules. If they’d approached the death of Mandela in the same way they handled Mrs Thatcher’s funeral, they would have invited on a few white supremacists in the interests of ‘balance’.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2521043/Wine-gums-madam–ID.html
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2521043/Wine-gums-madam–ID.html#ixzz2n5fq6xjv
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‘Get yours in quick, before closing at 4:55. So far, it’s not going terribly well for them. ‘
Wasn’t here either, and guess what….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25273024
Just imagine if the vast majority of UK licence fee payers at work (that does not allow personal web access) actually ever got to have a voice?
As to this ‘un, clicked your link and the current latest is:
36. the masked crusader
10 MINUTES AGO
see the moderators are at it again so much for democracy and free speech , why the bbc hold these comments pages ill never know they would be better off getting there staff to fill them in and live in there nice free world where they all agree to disagree
So your advice is well taken.
Feel the trust… witness the transparency!
Oops, my bad.
No. 36’s time was up, and has been modded.
Hope it wasn’t something I posted here.
Not like CECUTT and fellow censors pay any attention to this little blog.
RD, I did have a quick gander at the most liked posts so far (where I found No. 36 who, along with their likes, is now a Dear Leader’s Uncle). Impressive top ranking collection:)
Hope those itchy mod fingers don’t see the need to purge further… if not now, but maybe later (as they are wont to do).
The closing time will be worth noting, along with the carnage that prompts it. Odd not a single post in the last 11 mins.
The BBC does do daft a lot, but soon learns to deal with it quickly (well, unless it was a different time… and no one had complained).
‘No. 36′s time was up, and has been modded’
Given comments are pre-modded, to appear it must have passed the mods to get posted, but then some tinker later on went back to complain and get it hoiked.
Now, I wonder who would do that, or why?
Certainly one the Free Speech Flokkers may be able to answer, as it troubles them here so.
That deleted comment doesn’t seem too nasty, does it?
It’s almost like the BBC and fellow travelers are more than sensitive to folk just having different views.
‘..it’s not going terribly well for them’
Still open, and people are grabbing that window.
And it is freakin’ hilarious.
As a BBC Trust & Transparency Cluster-FUBAR this one would be hard to beat.
I hope some smart cookie is able to capture the posts that are pre-approved as they are sublime, from both critics and groupies (different reasons).
But the post-purges are now mounting and seem to err more on those less sycophantic in view, shall we say?
So a few peaches already lost to public view. Despite initial pre-approval.
While some of the defence attempts are so deranged they make most of the Flokkers here seem rational.
Luckily these seem charmed.
“Time for beeb to ditch the red noses”
By IAN BIRRELL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2521077/Time-BBC-ditch-Comic-Relief.html
“How Comic Relief invests millions in arms, tobacco and alcohol:
” Panorama expose also reveals charity is sitting on £100m and will not say how money is spent.
“Charity invests cash in controversial firms to fund £17m running costs.
“Documentary was shelved for two months by nervous BBC execs.
“Charity is ‘risking reputation’, says ethical investment expert.
“But Comic Relief says ‘ethical screening’ would ‘increase financial risk'”
By TOM KELLY and ALASDAIR GLENNIE.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521057/BBC-Panorama-expose-reveals-Comic-Relief-sitting-100m-say-money-spent.html#ixzz2n5gy6seR
I don’t know about the arms, but I assumed most of the tobacco and alcohol expense was just on the riders for the celebrities involved.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-25307126
In a long piece on the family reaction to the murder in the UK of their son the BBC finds little to say about the “Two men” who did it.
Can you guess what was on the Home Page of the BBC News website.
After Mandella (naturally) was….
The first same-sex weddings in England and Wales can take place from 29 March 2014, Equalities Minister Maria Miller says.
Frankly, my dear, I couldn’t give a damn.
Ah but when will there be the first heterosexual civil partnership?
I give a damn if the BBC decides to televise them on BBC2, live, for several hours.
Babar Ahmad has pleaded guilty in the USA to terrorism charges, after the bBBC led the campaign for him not to be extradited there. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25322782
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19843377
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17606337
Yes, and it seems that INBBC’s CASCIANI was always one to report Babar Ahmed empathetically.
“A second British man, Syed Talha Ahsan, is also expected to enter related guilty pleas later, according to US court papers.”
That would be this chap then ..
London family’s concern for terror suspect Talha Ahsan
By Divya Talwar BBC Asian Network
“..Mr Ahsan, a British-born poet and writer, denies being involved in terrorist activity. ..”
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22087245)
and there is also a racial angle ..
Are extradition rulings biased towards white non-Muslims?
“But the government has faced accusations of double standards because the Home Secretary approved the extradition of Syed Talha Ahsan, who suffers from the same condition as Mr McKinnon.”
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19977207)
So the packy terrorist whom the bBC could only promote as an innocent man has admitted to being a fucking Islamic terrorist. Not a good day for the terrorist loving bBC.
P.S
Wasn’t Nissan Main dealer a terrorist also?
Also interesting is how the bBC end their article where Mr Admed admits to being a terrorist:
Moazzam Begg, the group’s outreach director, said: “We must be careful against seeing this as an admission of guilt. Babar had little choice but to make this decision after finding himself amid torturous conditions within the impossible labyrinth of US injustice.
“This episode is a damning indictment of a system that does not rest until it saps its victims´ hope and tramples their dignity underfoot.”
Si it seems to the bBC, this terrorist is still innocent and a victim and they get another terrorist to say so.
The bBC, the mouthpiece for Islamic terrorism and the traitors within our midst.
Interesting how the bBC publish a photo of him sporting bruises around his face. Which funny enough he sued the Met police about (saying they made fun of his faith), they paid up and that result is used by the left in which to promote white Police racism. However in court the Police were acquitted when it transpired that MI5 had bugged Mr Ahmed and found no abuse transpired during his arrest. Strange how the Met havent sued for that money back, and why the bBC hasn’t mentioned that Ahmed is a lying piece of shite.
Go to any bBC news web page and have a butchers at the right hand side at the most popular stories, for some strange reason Nissan Main dealer isn’t in the top ten news stories read. Gee I wonder why?
Beeboid Casciani is empathetic towards Muslim Barbar Ahmed, but not at all interested in the banning of American anti-Islamic jihadists, Geller and
Spencer from U.K.
“PAMELA GELLER, WND COLUMN: BANNED FROM BRITAIN – FOR SUPPORTING ISRAEL”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/12/pamela-geller-wnd-column-banned-from-britain-for-supporting-israel.html#tpe-action-resize-407
Anything going on in the Rigby trial today?
Don’t tell me even the Courts have closed in honour of the Madiba love-fest.
I boobed earlier and posted wrong link about Prof Tim Congdon – a realistic, long, article about Scrapping the Licence fee and other BBC options:
http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/5307/full
Just looked the guy up who wrote that Standpoint Mag article and discover this Professor is Economics spokesperson of UKIP, “Chancellor in Waiting”?
Is it just me, since one would have thought that with the EU elections looming and UKIP so high in the charts, we would have come across such a high profile UKIP member more often on the BBC, or is there a deliberate policy to keep UKIP spokespersons profiles as low as possible?
Just seen the guy on Youtube where he really gets to the salient points and arguments for Brexit:
I have followed economics in the UK for 40 years or more, always recognised Sam Brittan of the FT as a total guru and always knew that Tim Congden was on the ball about monetary policy. He demands more respect than most other UK economists put together, always a good forecaster and commenter and ran his own firm strongly backed in the City.
So – every reason the BBC should freeze him out.
Nelson Mandela: Six things you didn’t know
How about he’s dead for a start?
Talk about scraping the barrel:
“4. He forgot his glasses when he was released from prison
and it only takes over 100 bBC staff members jetted over to South Africa at no expense to tell you the above.
Priceless.
As usual, Sickipedia has it right.
BBC news website today: “Six things you didn’t know about Nelson Mandela”.
After having watched BBC programming for the last week, I sincerely f****** doubt that.
Actually, I haven’t learned anything new for two reasons. I’ve known as much as I want to for years, and I’ve been watching a few favourite movies set aside for this event – Zulu, that sort of thing.
If any of you get tired of events in South Africa this evening you can tune into BBC1 at 11:20 for “another chance to see” an hours’ worth of hagiography of Doris Lessing.
Well done Auntie – much better than an old Play for Today, or even some AJP Taylor noteless at his lectern. Thanks Auntie, you really are good to us.