From Feedback……
Who decides the news agenda?
Richard Clarke, the Editor of the BBC Radio newsroom, on the stories that make the news.
Deciding the agenda…’We have our own ideas…but also use the Today programme, World at One, and PM, all of which influence us.‘
‘We test each other’s judgement….I make a much better decision when editing if I test my judgement against the rest of my team.’
So they test whether a story is suitable for the news by bouncing ideas off each other….who all think alike.
It was suggested that the BBC is becoming more ‘Tabloid’, covering too many sex and crime stories and that listeners are off to Al Jazeera for real world news……but also there was too much bad news…could there be time set aside for ‘good news’?
The reply…‘No….that would be manipulating the news.’
From that are we to believe they think they don’t manipulate the news?
Clarke says…‘When stories happen we HAVE to report them’.
Of course they do…..except when they choose not to…such as on Israel/immigration/Europe/inconvenient climate change bad news/good news on the economy.
The final question was ‘Are you interested in what listeners think?’
Answer….hmmm…not really…but he does read the duty log [of comments] every morning…probably for a good laugh.
Another Feedback programme covered similar ground……
How Broadcasting House interacts with its listeners
This programme looked especially at ‘Broadcasting House’ on Sunday mornings.
It asks….‘Do listeners have any real input….has there been anything in today’s broadcast suggested by listeners?’
Answer….‘No….but we read their comments with great interest.’
Yes…of course.
The answer continued….‘It’s quite trivial and silly things that get people going….such as whether English is being spoken on a train as raised by Nigel Farage.’
Yes…quite trivial and silly to worry about being a stranger in your own land.
Roger Bolton says ‘Listeners just want to be heard.’
Answer….’Yes….They want to know they are being listened to….that it’s not just a bunch of old suits paying themselves too much money at the BBC when the country wants to talk about these issues….they are battering the door down to tell us what the country is like.’
But is the BBC listening..to all the different voices…or just those of a similar persuasion? In my experience any ‘listening’ and response is purely on the basis that the listener is ignorant or prejudiced and it is the BBC’s job to re-educate them on the benefits of immigration or the peaceful and tolerant nature of Islam and the apparent Nasty Fascist side to UKIP.
The final point was interesting as it feeds into, and is the antithesis of, the comment made by Clarke in the first programme when he said he bounced his ideas off his own team…..in this programme it is suggested by Bolton that programmes and news broadcasts that feed off each other lead to the same agenda doing the same stories in the same way…they need to connect with the audience…and to respond to it.
Just don’t raise the subject of BBC bias.
“It’s quite trivial and silly things that get people going….such as whether English is being spoken on a train as raised by Nigel Farage.”
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So the BBC editors are there to assess what is trivial and silly, so as to filter them out, having at least read such things with great interest? In effect, acting as unelected censors of the views expressed by the public for whom they claim to speak, based on personal tribal beliefs backed in secrecy by FoI exemptions?
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“‘No….that would be manipulating the news.”
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Ah…. Got it now.
So it should be down to a vote?
How do you think news stories have been chosen by every news outlet in the history of mankind?
Barraco Barner
How do you think news stories have been chosen by every news outlet in the history of mankind?
We’ve been through this one before, having been graced with the skinny on how A. Newsroom works by A. Journalist.
It’s more the evident selection process that guides BBC editorial on what goes in, stays in and keeps there for weeks, and what is consigned to watertight oversight or a small backwater of the online estate until bad narrative karma stories blow over.
These get discussed here quite a lot.
The BBC factual counters are rarer and harder to quantify as when they feel the spotlight on such decisions creeping into the bunker, the FoI exclusion door slams shut.
Sadly, the BBC claiming objectivity on no more substantial basis than the BBC claims it is hardly persuasive these days, even if it ever was.
There’s a BBC bod claiming they don’t manipulate the news. This from the same stable as Hugs’ DNA attempt, or any number of market rate top floor types saying they don’t meddle… when they clearly do.
Forgive me, but there is what every news outlet in history does, and answers for, and then there’s what the national media monopoly of the UK does, and gets paid for no matter what, by compulsion. And claims in the face of clear reality, on a ‘tell it often enough’ basis.
Having people decide for me what’s trivial or silly on such as basis does not add up on any basis.
In other vital and sensible front page news as we speak…
Cruel nicknames
Feeble, Double Ugly and other unkind readers’ names
‘I’ve got a rubber stuck in my ear’
‘Having been graced with the skinny on how A. Newsroom works by A. Journalist’.
And yet it just does not seem to take.
‘It’s more the evident selection process that guides BBC editorial on what goes in, stays in and keeps there for weeks’
And you do this by selecting stories….
Saying ‘FOI’ repeatedly does not make a point.
Welcome back.
‘And yet it just does not seem to take’
Well, that may be because just saying it doesn’t make it persuasive and/or so.
Other than within the narrow confines of the BBC vision tunnel.
‘And you do this by selecting stories….’
The BBC does it by selecting stories that suit its world view, and doing all in its power to ignore, explain away, sideline or move on from those it doesn’t.
‘Saying ‘FOI’ repeatedly does not make a point.’
It kinda does, as it gets chaps like you hot and bothered enough to say nothing in counter except it doesn’t… because you say so. Like BBC editorial.
And that is the most apposite point that you’ve contrived to be made here.
Ta muchly.
‘Saying ‘FOI’ repeatedly does not make a point’
Maybe, like ‘Candyman’, someone said it once to often?
http://order-order.com/2014/03/18/hughes-signals-foi-expansion-to-publicprivate-money/
May (has to happen first) make unique exclusions for very public entities even trickier to defend.
Hmm
Public interest?
Relationship to other issues of the day?
Educational?
Malfeasance in high office?
Hypocrisy in elected and unelected officials?
Undeclared interests directing policy?
Seeking the truth behind official pronouncements/assertions/policy announcements
Or we can just ask our mates
An utterly disastrous interview with some ex-soldier who was reporting from Afghanistan on behalf of the Today programme(between 7.30 and 8am today).
Humph clutches his pearls on many occasions throughout his fearless interrogation of this civilian-this chap misspoke, dissembled, was economical with the truth whilst the Taliban were trying to kill both him and the men he was responsible for. He did not give Humphrys what he wanted for the run up to the Liam Fox interviews of 2010, by denouncing the Tories(but oddly enough, not quite so much about Des Browns and Bob Ainsworth and other top grade Labour statesman at that time).
Oh dear-what would the BBC know about lying, deceiving and covering up…without the excuse that bullets flew about their coiffed heads as they dished the dirt on the MOD for the benefit of the BBC?
Let`s start with Savile…MacAlpine…Ross/Brand,, tax dodges, and let`s work across to Balen, Patten/Thompson/Entwhistle, Digital payoffs and omnishambles on a near-daily basis.
Nah, no case to answer…and , for a fearless inquisitor like Humph, he conveniently forgot to go back to our soldiers first question…the Big Question as it were.
Namely-how many wars have YOU fought?
A low blow…after all didn`t Humph risk an eggy look and sniffles from Roger Bolton in the now-legendary “Battle of the Green Room” last Thursday morning?
THAT`S real war…and real sacrifice!
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