I’ll admit my bias. I have been a fan of Rik Mayall ever since Kevin Turvey and was gutted to read of his death at such a young age. Then I read this … and liked him even more.
Clearly not one that made the eulogy list at W1A.
Somewhere in a dark bunker a Flokker finger quivers indecisively over a keyboard, unsure whether there would be clearance to post.. at all… on this thread, as the words ‘you bastard’ echo off the walls over and over.
Rik Mayall was a lot smarter than he appeared. He was a lefty but not to the point of being blind to the contradictions and vices of leftism. That’s why his character in the Young Ones was one of the great comedy characters. Just like Captain Mainwaring and Basil Fawlty, the humour came from his delusions of grandeur colliding head on with his limitations.
The BBC’s left all that behind now. Instead the main ambition of its programming appears to be reassuring none too bright leftists that their ability to spew lefty talking points makes them super smart.
If you want to see their real target market, check out some of our trolls.
I don’t recall ever hearing or reading one bad thing about either Rik Mayall or Adrian Edmondson. Sad to hear of someone dying at such a young age but he (they) made me laugh on many occasions. Damn the bbc for its bigotted ways. How many other good comedians have been denied access to the bbc because they don’t fit the acceptable profile? Instead we’ve had endless exposure of the usual clique of second-rate talent.
‘Known to disagree with the government’ is surely a route to BBC promotion?
Ah, but then one looks at the date.
Mr. Edmonson is, I believe, married to Jennifer Saunders, who also recently endeared herself to the BBC’s Danny Cohen at least. http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-12-04/bbc-tv-boss-danny-cohen-warns-talent-not-to-air-dirty-linen-in-public
Interesting spat.
First up, Mr. Cohen is clearly well aware of the state of the BBC linen, but rather than address it seems keener to keep it crammed in the laundry basket to ripen further.
Also that ‘warning’ has obviously impressed commenters beyond sounding, well, daft if also sinister. Like Hugs’ various entreaties but without the… hugs.
Seems that not toeing a very narrow corporate line can see the guys at the top react in ways that don’t look promising for careers, which seems to have been more than taken on board by the BBC employees of such as HIGNFY & now Mock the Week.
Just followed up one of those comments and it seems Mr. Cohen takes his ‘sack of rats’ management style well beyond money makers he’d rather the BBC was rid of, like Jezza.
Any meeting with him in the room must be fascinating with everyone watching their backs.
One can see why Ian Katz fits right in, though.
And their respective spouses must get on well, though one is sure their curiously similar political and professional activities are left well clear of the breakfast table.
Also note that Caroline Raphael, Radio 4 comedy commissioning editor, revealed on Last Word that she was at Manchester University with Rik Mayall and Ben Elton.
Sounds like some sort of BBC establishment artiste to me!
To be fair, all the raving trots I was at Uni with now seem to have retired early to stately piles built on vast salaries made in the City or public sector sinecures. And by way of balance Nic Robbo’s early dalliances do seem to excite some even now.
It’s when the bond seems to remain lifelong and consistent to when these guys end up in control of the politico–media-policy estate that things look a smidge conflicted, from Two Eds to trustees of the IPPR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Public_Policy_Research
It’s always amusing to see left-leaning posters continue to remind anyone and everyone of Mr Robinson’s former dalliance with the Tory Party, which, according to him, ended in 1986, almost 30 years ago.
In contrast, of course, very few left-leaning interviewees are reminded of their former attachments to the Labour Party, let alone the Communist Party; and perhaps more importantly, very few left-leaning think tanks and so-called ‘independent authorities’ on subjects in the news are identified as such during BBC interviews these days.
And, of course. nothing seems to be heard of any former political attachments of other BBC presenters.
Second-Rate? SECOND RATE! I can’t believe you sad that. Why are you being so bloody overgenerous to the boring nonentities who populate what passes for comedy, especially Radio4 comedy, at the present time. Even the canned laughter sound bored to death with the repetitive, standardised set of so called ‘jokes’ the BBCites think passes for being funny.
at least rik was funny and his parody of making fun out of the conservatives in the 80s was just good slaptick fun,this new crop of so called alternative comedians that appear on the bbc are just politacal activists that are 100% left wing labour party supporters and are quiet nasty with there attacks on there right wing politacal opponents with the usual boring vile swearing and i find none of them funny at all.
Totally off topic, but related I guess, it appears we have lost another great comedy actor from the time when BBC comedy was just that, comedy.
Sam Kelly (Bunny Warren) a regular in Porridge died yesterday, it appears that nearly all of the regulars have now sadly left us, only McLaren, Lukewarm and Grouty remain.
Sam also appeared in Allo Allo (Klop!), a gloriously un-pc comedy the likes of which would never be commissioned today and to think that it ended just a tad over 20 years ago. How things have changed, still there’s always Citizen Khan ….
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Clearly not one that made the eulogy list at W1A.
Somewhere in a dark bunker a Flokker finger quivers indecisively over a keyboard, unsure whether there would be clearance to post.. at all… on this thread, as the words ‘you bastard’ echo off the walls over and over.
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Rik Mayall was a lot smarter than he appeared. He was a lefty but not to the point of being blind to the contradictions and vices of leftism. That’s why his character in the Young Ones was one of the great comedy characters. Just like Captain Mainwaring and Basil Fawlty, the humour came from his delusions of grandeur colliding head on with his limitations.
The BBC’s left all that behind now. Instead the main ambition of its programming appears to be reassuring none too bright leftists that their ability to spew lefty talking points makes them super smart.
If you want to see their real target market, check out some of our trolls.
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I don’t recall ever hearing or reading one bad thing about either Rik Mayall or Adrian Edmondson. Sad to hear of someone dying at such a young age but he (they) made me laugh on many occasions. Damn the bbc for its bigotted ways. How many other good comedians have been denied access to the bbc because they don’t fit the acceptable profile? Instead we’ve had endless exposure of the usual clique of second-rate talent.
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‘Known to disagree with the government’ is surely a route to BBC promotion?
Ah, but then one looks at the date.
Mr. Edmonson is, I believe, married to Jennifer Saunders, who also recently endeared herself to the BBC’s Danny Cohen at least.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-12-04/bbc-tv-boss-danny-cohen-warns-talent-not-to-air-dirty-linen-in-public
Interesting spat.
First up, Mr. Cohen is clearly well aware of the state of the BBC linen, but rather than address it seems keener to keep it crammed in the laundry basket to ripen further.
Also that ‘warning’ has obviously impressed commenters beyond sounding, well, daft if also sinister. Like Hugs’ various entreaties but without the… hugs.
Seems that not toeing a very narrow corporate line can see the guys at the top react in ways that don’t look promising for careers, which seems to have been more than taken on board by the BBC employees of such as HIGNFY & now Mock the Week.
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Just followed up one of those comments and it seems Mr. Cohen takes his ‘sack of rats’ management style well beyond money makers he’d rather the BBC was rid of, like Jezza.
Any meeting with him in the room must be fascinating with everyone watching their backs.
One can see why Ian Katz fits right in, though.
And their respective spouses must get on well, though one is sure their curiously similar political and professional activities are left well clear of the breakfast table.
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Also note that Caroline Raphael, Radio 4 comedy commissioning editor, revealed on Last Word that she was at Manchester University with Rik Mayall and Ben Elton.
Sounds like some sort of BBC establishment artiste to me!
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To be fair, all the raving trots I was at Uni with now seem to have retired early to stately piles built on vast salaries made in the City or public sector sinecures. And by way of balance Nic Robbo’s early dalliances do seem to excite some even now.
It’s when the bond seems to remain lifelong and consistent to when these guys end up in control of the politico–media-policy estate that things look a smidge conflicted, from Two Eds to trustees of the IPPR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Public_Policy_Research
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It’s always amusing to see left-leaning posters continue to remind anyone and everyone of Mr Robinson’s former dalliance with the Tory Party, which, according to him, ended in 1986, almost 30 years ago.
In contrast, of course, very few left-leaning interviewees are reminded of their former attachments to the Labour Party, let alone the Communist Party; and perhaps more importantly, very few left-leaning think tanks and so-called ‘independent authorities’ on subjects in the news are identified as such during BBC interviews these days.
And, of course. nothing seems to be heard of any former political attachments of other BBC presenters.
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Second-Rate? SECOND RATE! I can’t believe you sad that. Why are you being so bloody overgenerous to the boring nonentities who populate what passes for comedy, especially Radio4 comedy, at the present time. Even the canned laughter sound bored to death with the repetitive, standardised set of so called ‘jokes’ the BBCites think passes for being funny.
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at least rik was funny and his parody of making fun out of the conservatives in the 80s was just good slaptick fun,this new crop of so called alternative comedians that appear on the bbc are just politacal activists that are 100% left wing labour party supporters and are quiet nasty with there attacks on there right wing politacal opponents with the usual boring vile swearing and i find none of them funny at all.
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Totally off topic, but related I guess, it appears we have lost another great comedy actor from the time when BBC comedy was just that, comedy.
Sam Kelly (Bunny Warren) a regular in Porridge died yesterday, it appears that nearly all of the regulars have now sadly left us, only McLaren, Lukewarm and Grouty remain.
Sam also appeared in Allo Allo (Klop!), a gloriously un-pc comedy the likes of which would never be commissioned today and to think that it ended just a tad over 20 years ago. How things have changed, still there’s always Citizen Khan ….
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