The BBC has often opined that Gaza is destitute and failing, lacking resources to build its infrastructure…indeed it highlights Ban Ki-Moon trying to blame the Israeli blockade for the rocket attacks on Israel:
Mr Ban is due to travel to Israel for talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and meetings with Palestinian officials in the West Bank.
Mr Ban said he appreciated Israel’s right to defend itself, but said restrictions on Gaza should be lifted “so that people should not resort to this kind of violence as a way of expressing their grievances”.
The blockade is of course a response to those very rocket attacks…so Moon’s logic fails me there. Good though that such a deep thinker is at the head of the United Nations in charge of peace negotiations.
The BBC frequently tells us that Gazan civilians have no where to go to take cover when the fighting begins.
But that’s just not true is it?
For a start thousands of Gazans fled to UN controlled safe areas, in agreement with Israel.
Second, instead of investing in the people of Gaza Hamas has been building a large number of tunnels, lined with concrete, some up to one mile long.
They took years to plan and build.
With all those resources Hamas has used to build these tunnels to attack Israel they could have used to build schools, homes or indeed bomb shelters.
The tunnels themselves could be used as shelters if Hamas were so concerned about their civilians.
Or indeed Hamas could just stop bombing Israel and killing Israelis and there would be no need for shelters, no need for a blockade and Palestinians could get on with their lives turning the rat trap of Gaza into a thriving society as Israel has done with its own land even whilst under 65 years of Muslim attacks designed to wipe it off the face of the earth.
Reckon we`ve got our MacAlpine Fusiliers here who could build our HS2 tunnels relatively cheaply.
They`re clearly good with concrete.
Even without war the idea of a successful Gaza is a long shot. Some talk of Gaza as the new Switzerland or the new Riviera but what chance is there of that?
Muslim strictures against lending money for interest make it unattractive for banking. Bans, that will be enforced, against gambling, alcohol, sex out of marriage and female semi-nudity by which I mean bikinis make it unattractive to the Western tourist and I suspect the Eastern one as well. No deep-water port or airport make its trading future bleak. I suppose they could be built but who would invest the billions and why? Who would they be trading with?
Hamas’s ambitions extend way further than Gaza. If they succeed Gaza will be then as now a backwater which someone, the BBC would demand it of Israel, would have to support.
Yes it is a long shot but I imagine the Gazans et al might at least like Hamas to give them the chance.
As for Islamic banking holding back development you are entirely wrong….How do I know? Richard Bacon had on a Muslim banking ‘expert’ today…to cut a long story short the world would be a much better place if it turned to Islam for its banking services…he couldn’t actually name a commercial benefit but it was ‘holistic’, you just feel better…neither could he detail the faults in Sharia law…he said he was not a Sharia expert…however…again…he said the world would be a better place if we adopted Sharia. I’m guessing he must have been guessing about that as he’s no ‘expert’ on Sharia, at least when it came to answering awkward questions about the bad things in Islam…which fair do’s to Bacon he kept on at him about.
I noticed the difference between ‘profit’ and ‘interest’ was asked several times and the response was deafening by its silence.
surely it should have been ‘profit (pbuh)’.
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Islamic banking works where there is a plentiful supply of capital. In the Muslim world that means only oil. Gaza aint got none 😉
I remember after the Israeli withdrawal, Gaza was left with a large acreage of glasshouses which had been bought for them with the idea that they could have a successful industry. They smashed the glass houses to smithereens. Successful Gaza? It is not what Hamas want.
Yes, there was a huge thriving business exporting fruit, veg and flowers worldwide and the whole infrastructure was left intact by the departing Israelis. It was all demolished in a matter of days by the new owners. And don’t forget, Hamas were not in control then.
The wanton destruction was carried out by the Palestinians in the street, but what else can you expect when all their life, through childhood and beyond, all they are taught is hatred and destruction. Destruction of property or destruction of life, it is all the same to them providing it is something Jewish being destroyed.
They are just animals but then in the morally warped West the majority of people are thick and believe what they are fed by the MSM so support these people. The same type of people who behead British soldiers but the X-Factor Generation are too thick to think for themselves
They also had a brand new international airport built for them. Now trashed.
And don’t forget, Israel hands tax take over to Hamas with which to build the tunnels!
ok lets cut to the chase,there is a racist anti semetic agenda going on here towards israel in the media and with far left groups like the swp and other socalist organisations is clear to see here,why is it the stop the war coalition(swp) always protesting against israel,why i ask,lets roll back a month or so.300 christian children kidnapped by boko haram islamist terrorist,over 500 nigerians murdered since then by boko haram,no stop the war coalition protest on behalf of them.1700 iraq conscript soldiers beheaded and burnt alive by isis terrorists and thrown into mass graves,no stop the war coaliton protest on behalf on them.1000s of christian syrians butchered like dogs by al qaeda in syria,no stop the war coalition protest on behalf on them.the list goes on and on,but israel defends themselves from terrorists and murderers and the leftists from the swp and there islamist mates are protesting against israel on a daily basis,what is there agenda,simple,anti semtism and hatred of jews on a par that would make hitler proud.
“ok lets cut to the chase,there is a racist anti semetic agenda…. ” sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip…..Yeah. You condemn David Brims every time he’s a racist twat and then we’ll talk.
This ‘we’ of whom you speak being…?
Looking at the last 24 hrs, it seems to constitute a collection of BBBC ‘regulars’ who contribute next to nothing about BBC inaccuracy, lack of objectivity or integrity, and devote mass attrition posts to what people should be doing to please them, or whinging about perceived personal affronts.
Try addressing the facts of BBC performance (pro or con) and you may be welcomed and listened to. But the first salvo here does not surprise or suggest a change of basic SOP.
Over the last few days I have heard outright expressions of loathing of Israel and the Jewish people. Barely bothering to disguise their hatred anymore. The concerted media offensive against Israel has made this sort of talk respectable. It is anti Semitism pure and simple and to be on the receiving end of it is appalling. Whatever the cost we must not let it pass.
It is the great cause of the left. To bring israel to destruction. Oh they don’t put it like that but that is what they want .
All that really stands in their way is the IDF and the will of the young men and women to fight to survive. Make no mistake the end game of Hamas and the Western left is the destruction of a people and a nation.
In my lefetime there would once have been open Socialists/Friends of Israel stalls and meetings at events like union meetings, Tolpuddle etc.
I assume those who used to support them are either dead, cowed or simply too old to face down the new breed of nasties who mock the death of Thatcher-but weep Hofmeister tears for Benn and “The Legend-Bob Crow”
The Left/Liberal wing of politics are very nasty nowadays-all that MSM access in the Council Hall and charity quangos they work for.
How much was Bob Crow on then?…and how come Emily Benn is a Labour candidate with no discernible history of working for normal people in Croydon?
Good old Labour eh?…meet the new boss…
“same as the old boss”
c. Roger Daltry.
WON’T GET FOOLED AGAIN!
(Sorry for the shout)
Certainly, from uniquely unaccountable BBC reporters to curiously still embedded Lib Dem MPs, the establishment does seem to be of a mind.
If one rather warped.
Quite true, and the biggest purveyor of this is the BBC. An organisation that supports all terrorists and corrupt, lefty Dictators. Regrettably most people take what the BBC says as the gospel truth.
Just for the question, how many people here don’t give a damn about Gaza in the news?
Regards the opener regards what Hamas could have done if it had worked towards peace.
Currently an Ethiopian has been given the right to access legal aid in which to sue the Uk for handing over Aid money to…Ethiopia. To that end could something similar be said about all the Aid money that Hamas receives and which they haven’t used for what it should eb used for. (Other than allow a number of generations of unemployed Pals have families of 10 paid for by Aid money)
No, lads and lassies, the tunnels are not for attacking Israel, they are bomb shelters. {:o)}
t is scott under a different alias,very poor disguise scott i must say so.
*sigh*
I’m really not. But apparently the existence of more than one person who doesn’t agree with him is more than stuart’s brain can apparently comprehend.
i find that a really cheap shot scott,the fact that i have drawn you out of your bunker reveals all. grow up man,just grow up.bty what are your views on the conflict in israel T oops i mean scott my bubba.
i find that a really cheap shot scott
As cheap as when you wrote comments as “roy” and “bob” to add fuel to the personal attacks you’d already made against me as “stuart”? As I’ve said before, if they weren’t you, then not only have they never posted before or since, but they shared EXACTLY the same punctuation and capitalisation issues you have in your typing, and the same inability to reply directly to the comment you refer to. The chances of those similarities being coincidental is zero.
So you obviously know what you’re talking about when it comes to people concocting fake names.
I, however, am not “T”. As I suspect you know damned well, and are only making the claim in order to troll. I suppose I should feel sorry for someone who feels he has to lie about me to validate his own existence, rather than laughing at him… I’ll let you wonder which I am doing.
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‘suspect you know damned well, and are only making the claim in order to troll’
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Enigmas wrapped in mysteries. With, as always, a healthy dose of irony failure thrown in.
Interesting what you know, or suspect you do, as much as what you can live with, or decry, depending.
Given the fact that too many Flokking colleagues do rather depend on them too to ply their craft, you do seem more cautious on damning the use of pseudonyms to ignore content at least.
But now it appears what was once described by you as paranoid has become investigative fact based on… what now?
” you wrote comments as “roy” and “bob”
The algorithm you use that arrives at such certainty, like much in BBC reporting, ranging from doubt to certainty, caveat to claim, seems more personal opinion arriving at the desired belief.
Along with the ability to have a false flag to discredit (if it were needed) your contributions, which seem seldom to be on any topic than yourself.
how many damm times have i told you scott,i am not roy,bob,david vance alan,pounce,ricky,etc etc,when are you going to stop this nonsence,come on man.just enjoy the summer sunshine,bty scott,what are your views on this conflict in israel?,alot of unusual silence from you on this topic.
Israel tolerates LGBT persons.
Israel’s Islamic neighbours hang them from cranes.
You were Roy and Bob. I’m not suggesting you’re Vance (he can punctuate), Alan (you’re not obsessed with bold text and ellipses) or Pounce (you don’t lose your temper at the drop of a hat on quite the same way).
Who’s Ricky? Got something you need to confess?
your hatred of working class people like me scotty babe who was not born with a silver spoon in there mouth like you is clear to see here,yes my spelling is poor,yes my puntucation is poor i admit that,but your constant line of personal attacks on me on these 2 points that you constantly attack me on just shows you for the bigoted,racist,intolerant self superior middle nasty leftist you are.get it bubba.
Hear Hear. The troll is a nasty piece of work
Er, I’ve never made any reference to your class background, although this isn’t the first time you’ve brought it up while claiming that I have (along with presumptions of my own background which are based on your own guesswork rather than facts – and, not that it matters, end up being wide of the mark).
And the only time I have referred to your punctuation style and other grammatical tics is when pointing out how easy it was to spot when you were fabricating other aliases.
Chip on your shoulder much?
middle class nasty leftist=scotty babe
I’m sure you and “John” will be happy together, convincing yourselves that flinging insults my way in some way compensates for your own poor behaviour. It doesn’t.
….because he is an attention-seeking disruptive troll
Of course, John once again ignores that Stuart brought me into this thread by lying about me being ^T^. And then lied about me attacking his background, lied about my own background, lied about my insulting his spelling, lied about his having made up other aliases to insult me…
But somehow I’m the disruptive one? Even in the warped world of Biased BBC, that’s a stretch.
And it’s funny – when you search the comments on this site, “Lord Earls Court” does nothing but make derogatory comments, usually to me. I suspect it’s an alias in use by someone who regularly posts under another name, but is too much of a coward to admit how much of a rancid little homophobe he is. At the very least, he’s a disruptive little troll. But he’s a homophobic, right-wing nutcase of a troll, so Biased BBC welcomes in with open arms. Because if you’re a foul little individual with no comprehension of basic human decency, Vance and his similarly morally deficient acolytes will roll out the red carpet.
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i agree 100% with john and stus responce to scotts discracefull behaviour in this blog…..
Inability to reply directly to a post? Check. Lack of capitals? Check. Absence of apostrophes? Check. Spelling errors aplenty? Check.
Welcome back, “bob”. I’m sure it’s just a complete coincidence that the only time you pop up on this site is to agree with “stuart” when he’s been insulting me. It’s not completely fucking obvious at all.
Ignore the disruptive troll
Typical left wing behaviour. This thread is about Hamas and the tunnels. Nothing else is relevant to it.
Stay on the subject or hold your peace.
If you could let me know on what subject topics it’ll be acceptable to stand up to people lying about me without having to suffer your sanctimony, I’m sure we’d all appreciate it.
This ‘we’ to whom you refer (a fair bit) being?
Your sense of belonging being quaint but hard to rationalise with the mystery ‘BBBC regulars’ you blanket generalise about in the negative.
Schizophrenic at best.
One topic I would be keen to see you get around to would be anything relevant to BBC lack of accuracy, objectivity or integrity.
You did once at least skirt such things, but of late it seems to be one massive narcissistic whinge about how a blog on BBC bias isn’t all about you or hypocritical paranoid obsessions that are suddenly OK as it is you indulging in them.
Oh hurrah, Biased BBC’s resident pompous ass is pretending he’s got some sort of authority again. Haven’t you got anything better to do than pretend you’re some sort of moral arbiter? Like, come up with a reason why anybody should treat you as anything other than a very bad joke?
Ignore the jug-eared twat!!!. What’s the point of arguing or debating with the nasty little bigot. I think Scott repeatedly posts on this site, actively inviting insult and abuse because he gets a kick out of total strangers talking dirty to him, and he’s guaranteed that abuse with his insulting posts. Just ignore the sad little man altogether. Do not reply to any of his posts. Once he doesn’t get the responses he hopes for, he’ll go somewhere else for his vicarious kicks.
OK.
Let’s see.
But an interesting thread to try to establish the idealistic principle of ignoring deranged hostility in hope that, with time, it will redirect.
I think Scott repeatedly posts on this site, actively inviting insult
No, I don’t. But that doesn’t stop you from feeling that calling me a “jug-eared twat” is somehow acceptable behaviour. And to be fair, it does seem to be on Biased BBC, as long as you’re as prejudiced and hypocritical as the prevailing worldview exhibited so often on this site.
Funny, isn’t it – apparently I’m always the insulting one, yet people like Andy S, F*** the Beeb, Pounce, David Brims et al are never, ever, pulled up on their behaviour by those who seem to feel they police this site. And then those same people get very annoyed when their hypocritical attitude to personal abuse is called out.
Let me repeat: your use of insulting language is not my fault. It’s yours. Stop using me as an excuse for your inability to behave like a decent human being.
Ignore the whining disruptive troll
Hello stalker. Not got anything productive to do? How about “explaining why you’re unable to criticise others who exhibit far worse behaviour than that you attribute to me”, if you’re stuck for ideas?
Are you genuinely unable to answer that, or is your silence the sound of your dawning embarrassment?
Scott,
You really haven’t a clue have you about how to deal with other people. For a start if I call you a name and you don’t like it. Don’t keep on harping on about it. people will understand it gets under your skin and they will continue. to do so.
laugh, yes laugh, if somebody abuses you take it on the chin, even better make a joke out of it. Yes it isn’t right, but you know what, you disable that line of attack.
So for example if somebody calls me a Packy (As they have in a crowed Naffi) I shout back:
“Where, lets beat the twat up together”
Or
“That’s not what your mother called me last night, but then she did have her mouth full later on, so she couldn’t explain fuller”
Get my drift. Lighten up.
Now as I keep on saying to you,
How about you being nice for a change, you’ll be surprised it works wonders.
Pounce is lecturing on behaviour. Get out the earplugs, the irony klaxons are going to be working overtime…
Let’s try and work out what passes for logic in your little fantasy world. People are rude to me, and I have to laugh it off. Other people say I’m being rude to them, and that marks me out as being some sort of monster.
What a shame you seem to lack the capacity to realise what a bone-headed, hypocritical excuse for an argument you’re making.
Now excuse me, while I spend my time laughing off the suggestion that Pounce – who is prone to flying off the handle at the drop of a hat, firing off streams of four-letter abuse at people he deems to have offended him – is in any way capable of instructing others on how to conduct themselves.
ok scott,here is my proposal to you,i on behalf of me and other contibutors to this blog if they dont mind want to offer you a unlimited draft ceasefire in hostilitys starting from 12pm today,the grounds of this ceasefire will be if you dont fire insults towards anybody you wont be bombarded back with insults,those who break this ceasefire should will be deemed to be the agrressor and should be dealt with by the administrator,this is a fair offer on the table for you scott,will you accept this ceasefire and bring a end to these hostilitys,the olive branch has been offered to you scott.will you accept my ceasefire proposal and stick to commenting on the nature of these blogs topics and ethos.the ball is in your court scott,will you accept it.
Is that an apology for lying about me?
You do seem to think your behaviour, and that of others, is somehow my responsibility. And yet you brought me into this thread, by falsely claiming that I was posting under multiple aliases.
Your bad behaviour, and that of other Biased BBC commenters’, is not a tit for tat matter. You just use my name as an excuse to behave abominably, and to justify that appalling behaviour. You want to stop being abusive? Just stop. Don’t concoct some cockamamie “ceasefire” notion. Just stop being abusive, stand up against other Biased BBC commenters who are genuinely abusive, and stop lying about people.
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Unctious prat
Asligt rework on the original quote, but can you guess who said something VERY similar to this…
“Oh. My. God.
I have my own thread on Biased BBC. My life is complete, and I can now truly die a happy man.”
Bless. You haven’t really read that Digital Spy thread, have you? Or maybe you have, and you chose to wilfully lie about it. Which, do you think, makes you the lesser man? Admittedly, it’s a close-run thing…
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Why is it than whenever I see a posting from Scotty boy, the impression it always makes is “It’s all about ME !!!! Everything has to be about ME!!! I’m A DIVA!!!!”
Scott is the HAMAS of the Biased BBC website. He spends hours throwing barbs at the site owners and commentors, and when they respond (in kind) after much provocation he turns into a little princess and claims everyone is picking on him.
Scott – I did read the Digital Spy thread. It pretty much shows that you – and your “friends” are all of the same ilk; defender of anything involving sequins, musicals, Judy Garland etc. In short, you defend the BBC because without it, you wouldn’t have anything to watch. Too much rough stuff on the other channels isn’t there.
“Wilfully chose to lie about it” – is that the same as denying it ever existed in the first place like you did when I first mentioned your Digital Spy thread? In fairness to you, you just followed your employers (BBC’s) suppression of facts by omission scenario, whereby even when there’s documentary proof, you still deny the evidence.
Does it make me a lesser man – no, I don’t think so. But then, I live life in the real world, not in a fantasy land somewhere over the rainbow.
“decent person” ? !!!! Like – a troll who says he fancies the New York Times Square bomber ?
I am surprised the disgusting troll can even spell the word decent.
Ah, John Anderson/Andersn/whoever you’re being today – hello, stalker, stuck in the past. Obsessing over and over and over again about a single tweet of less than 140 characters, but can’t quite bring himself to devote even a sliver of that space to explain why he is so obsessed with me, while ignoring far worse behaviour from others.
Still, never mind, eh John – the more you repeat yourself, the more you expose the sort of person you are. Albeit that there are so many others on Biased BBC who share your inability to be honest or consistent.
Carry on repeating your tired little mantras all you like. You and I both know that it won’t make you any less sad as a person.
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it seems that you have no intention of holding this ceasefire scott and you have broke it so far on 3 occasions,your actions in this blog is plain,you dont want peace,like hamas you want constant conflict and war,i offered you peace scott,you refused it,what more can i say,your beyond help.and bty,i would rather eat my toenails than apologise to you where there is no apology deserved,thats that.i am done with you.
i would rather eat my toenails than apologise to you where there is no apology deserved
So lying about me, saying I’ve abused you when I haven’t, doesn’t deserve an apology? Well, this is Biased BBC where lying is alright if you’re a right-wing, BBC-hating ideologue who needs the foundations of your own shaky prejudice propping up, so I can see why you might think that lying about me doesn’t deserve an apology.
In the real world, though, people with brains, hearts and courage would differ.
thats that.i am done with you.
One can only hope. Does that promise extend to your alter egos “bob” and “roy” too?
people say that you should be banned from this blog scott,i believe in freedom of speech and you should have your say .however,your behaviour just lately in this blog concerns me,i think there ar strong grounds now that you should be sectioned under under the mental health act 2003.