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  1. joeb says:
    July 31, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    I just heard that James O’Brien, of LBC, is going to be presenting two episodes of ‘Newsnight’ next week. It must be his screaming socialist credentials that have brought him to Al Beeb’s attention.

    I haven’t watched ‘Newsnight’ for years for obvious reasons, but this I may just have to see…

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    • John Anderson says:
      July 31, 2014 at 1:52 pm

      For some reason people seem to think that O’Brien is clever. He certainly thinks he is.

      But I find him thick as well as biased, ill-educated, whiny – and a very false “accent”. I can’t stand the sound of the man, whatever he is on about. And for a call-in programme, he seems to hog the time mostly for himself and his inane chatter.

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      • joeb says:
        July 31, 2014 at 3:27 pm

        He’s one of the most sanctimonious, bleeding heart, hand-wringing leftists out there, constantly sneering at his callers if they happen to disagree with his opinion. He also likes to use ‘big words’ to try and humiliate people, banking that they won’t know what they mean, which is invariably the case.

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        • Guest Who says:
          July 31, 2014 at 3:41 pm

          ‘banking that they won’t know what they mean’
          Now I feel bad challenging the single-syllable brigade here to share their efforts with the BBC.
          It’s not that they don’t, but don’t dare.

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      • noggin says:
        July 31, 2014 at 5:24 pm

        O Brien in one chair, Lyse “Douche” et in the other ….. shudder!

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    • Geoff says:
      July 31, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      Jeez you couldn’t make it up could you? Obviously the hatchet job he did on Farage give him the right credentials for the job?

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    • Teddy Bear says:
      July 31, 2014 at 4:38 pm

      I have posted before the exchange I had with him 8 years ago that shows clearly his real mentality. For the benefit of anybody who missed it, here it is again.

      No doubt he thinks working for the BBC is a step up. He certainly matches the mold, or mould in this case, of his peers there.

      Here is my parting words to him
      You really can’t help yourself, can you? You’ve got to try a final dig, I just wish you had more creativity. It’s very simple, stop replying – and so will I – get it?
      What’s in a name?
      Here’s some anagrams of yours.
      A Jibe Sermon
      Jibes Moaner
      Jeers in a mob
      Jibes Or Mean
      Job – Me in Arse
      Aim – Sneer Job

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      • John Anderson says:
        July 31, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        You describe exactly the drone of O’Brien’s shows. He starts an hour with “Right, our topic is X. Do you think Y – or Z?” He then yammers on and on and on and on about the topic – making it very clear where he stands – always saying “The lines are open for your calls” but never bloody having any calls. So pleased with the sound of his own grating false voice.

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  2. George R says:
    July 31, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    More Beeboid political and social engineering in appointments:-

    “Ex-Equalities Chief Trevor Phillips Could Be Next BBC Chair.
    Former journalist and head of EHRC could bring much needed diversity to role, supporters say.”

    http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/ex-equalities-chief-trevor-phillips-could-be-next-bbc-chair?

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    • Guest Who says:
      July 31, 2014 at 2:24 pm

      How, precisely, beyond being a token box-tick to the hideously white dominance of the BBC high command, does he bring ‘diversity to the role’?
      Do they mean he will also be in a position to mandate positive discrimination in his own image?
      If so, great for Lenny Henry; not so good for Danny Cohen’s pet palette rigging efforts.

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  3. George R says:
    July 31, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    For INBBC: more ‘diversity’ coming to Britain-

    “French police discover a ‘arsenal of war’ on a bus headed for London.”
    – See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/07/french-police-discover-arsenal-war-bus-headed-london.html/#sthash.y2Lv93Lg.dpuf

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  4. John Anderson says:
    July 31, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    In WW2 I imagine the BBC concentrated on what was happening in military terms – rather than endless counts of how many Germans had been killed. (Over 1 million German civilians died through US/UK bombing ?)

    On Gaza, the BBC seems to want to avoid FACTUAL reporting on Gaza, and what is happening on the diplomatic front, – in favour of all its “empathy with the Palestinians” stuff.and endless photos of people running away from areas in Gaza they should have evacuated long beforehand.

    So here from a Times of Israel is a current round-up of actual news :

    “A senior Palestinian official tells The Times of Israel that the ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas are at a dead end. According to the official, there have been a series of efforts and consultations since yesterday aimed at finding agreement to a 72-hour truce. Israel insists that IDF forces continue to operate against tunnels that cross into Israel during this truce period, while Hamas insists that this activity stop, though Hamas reportedly agreed that IDF troops could remain in Gaza for the duration of the truce.

    The Israeli government’s announcement today that the IDF’s anti-tunnel activities would continue with a ceasefire or without was undermining the ceasefire efforts, the official said. He added that Palestinian delegations could only go to Cairo for talks after a ceasefire was already in place – apparently an Egyptian demand. On that, too, there is no agreement.

    The official added that an Israeli unilateral withdrawal from Gaza would place Hamas in a difficult dilemma – since it would not have achieved any of its demands for stopping the fighting from its side.
    …………
    Channel 2’s Arab affairs analyst Ehud Ya’ari reports that Hamas feels under siege. “There are no delegations in Cairo” to discuss any potential ceasefire as yet, he explains. The reason: “Egypt is unwilling to receive a Hamas delegation until the shooting ends.”

    Hamas sees the Egyptians as “very, very hard on them. The Egyptians are making it difficult for foreign aid delegations to pass through Rafah. Hamas interprets this as partnership with Israel. They’re blaming the Saudis as well.”

    One Hamas spokesperson, Hamad al-Rakab, has already declared victory, saying “It’s only a matter of time before the start of celebrations…. I want to tell you, the war is ended. The enemy is establishing investigative committees to understand why its fighters have lost so badly.”

    Hamas has also complained bitterly about its isolation in the Arab world, openly directing complaints at Hezbollah and Iran. “What are all these declarations of support from [Hezbollah chief Hassan] Nasrallah?” Ya’ari quotes a Hamas statement. “We need a new front in the north!”

    There is also anger and frustration at the continued quiet in the West Bank and among Israeli Arabs.

    Hamas has seen the destruction of almost all its tunnels, one-third of which reached into Israel, he reports. They have only a few dozen long-range rockets, and a few hundred of the medium-range kind that can reach Ashkelon and Ashdod.

    “So you see an effort to conserve the arsenal, a lowered rate of fire in recent days,” Ya’ari notes.

    Meanwhile, much of the Gaza Strip east of the main north-south road, Salah A-Din Street, is empty of population with IDF forces operating there virtually freely.

    Taken together, Hamas believes its situation is dire.”

    (So – the BBC has been refusing to report that Hamas is despised by most of the Arab powers.)

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    • John Anderson says:
      July 31, 2014 at 3:37 pm

      My guess is that Israel will carry on for a few more days to destroy every single terror-tunnel and as much of the Hamas munitions as possible. It will then announce a unilateral ceasefire and withdraw its troops. Hamas would have achieved none of its declared aims, merely exposing the Gaza population and urban fabric to huge damage and loss of life. All for sod-all. “String horse, weak horse”.

      Israel could let the Palestinians sort out their own awful political problems.

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    • John Anderson says:
      July 31, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      My guess is that Israel will carry on for a few more days to destroy every single terror-tunnel and as much of the Hamas munitions as possible. It will then announce a unilateral ceasefire and withdraw its troops. Hamas would have achieved none of its declared aims, merely exposing the Gaza population and urban fabric to huge damage and loss of life. All for sod-all. Let the Arab world suck on that. “Strong horse, weak horse”.

      Israel could let the Palestinians sort out their own awful political problems.

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      • dave s says:
        July 31, 2014 at 9:16 pm

        Probably correct. I expect that as soon as the IDF achieves a realisic majority of it’s objectives it will immediately leave.
        That makes sense. The aim must surely be to so weaken Hamas that it cannot revive for years.

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  5. chrisH says:
    July 31, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2711427/Mishal-Husain-s-spell-Today-listeners-wears-BBC-s-flagship-radio-news-programme-sheds-400-000-listeners.html

    Let`s hope that the BBCs Godawful Today programme will screech at itself tomorrow and demand an enquiry, new legislation, change of personnel at the top and a shareholders revolt re this “alarming and tragicomic decline in its audience figures”.
    A small decline in audience reach huh!…don`t the BBC normally to such catastrophic figures as a disaster and a need to rethink the business model.
    Jimmy Krankie and Krusty the Clown to revamp the dead camel of a bitchfest over the Aga…they`re not brave enough to gossip over the washing line-servants do that…risk of terrorist attacks, and that UV borne of global warming?
    Read that Guardian shit out every day?….no surprise that the rest of us have told the BBC to f*** off!

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    • Teddy Bear says:
      July 31, 2014 at 4:47 pm

      It’s strange that a ‘BBC’ search of the Daily Mail website this morning revealed the article you linked to.
      It’s now disappeared from the search results – and replaced with this

      Presenter of BBC’ Radio 4’s today programme, Mishal Husain

      Mishal Husain joined the Radio 4 news programme in October and brought a surge of listeners with her.

      Somebody has pulled some strings at the Mail

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      • Guest Who says:
        July 31, 2014 at 5:05 pm

        Comments to the first interesting; even those the 142…7…210 are not chipping in with.
        Some may have offered that there may be others not inspired by standards of interviewing that involve suggesting the solution to any armed conflict is that both sides, irrespective of population base, impose equal numbers of casualties to satisfy her moral equivalences.

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        • Geoff says:
          July 31, 2014 at 7:20 pm

          Mail comments are a joke, highly manipulated ratings and highly selective in their selection.

          Still as questionable as the Mail comments are at least they do allow some, unlike the Telegraph where a commentable story is a rarity these days.

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          • Mark says:
            August 1, 2014 at 10:39 am

            There’s a group of trolls on the Mail comments page who put left-wing comments on as soon as the article is open, and then get their mates to green-arrow them en masse.

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  6. John Anderson says:
    July 31, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Typical BBC-style appeasement by ex-BBC Chris Gunness on behalf of UNWRA in Gaza when interviewed on TV. When asked how the IDF can attack Hamas when it is embedded among civilians (and using UN premises) – he says “Make peace”. Yeah, that’s gonna work, Hamas really want peace, it is all a myth that their Charter wants the annihilation of Israel.

    also – “Why did you hand the rockets you found on 3 UN sites to Hamas” – “No – I handed them to the local bomb disposal experts”. Like so many BBC staff – lying through his teeth.

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    • Oldbob says:
      August 1, 2014 at 10:00 am

      Presumably the local “bomb disposal expert ” then fired them at Israel. Which of course is a perfectly acceptable BBC method of disposal.

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    • dave s says:
      July 31, 2014 at 9:22 pm

      Brave brave lefties. Hardly Braveheart stuff but typical of the breed.
      I suppose it makes them feel empowered and empathetic and you know- the usual drivel.

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  8. dave1east says:
    July 31, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    every one a `treyvon`, not so says mr o’barmi [yet]

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/greek-court-acquits-farmers-shot-strawberry-pickers

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  9. Rob says:
    July 31, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    BBC new 6PM a BBC person sitting next to an Israeli Drone operator asking him if he can sleep at night as he targets women and children, Never letting him get his response across before butting-in. He should have asked her why wasn’t she sitting next to an Hamas person asking him the very same question. Why do the Israelis tolerate the BBC?

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    • Phil Ford says:
      August 1, 2014 at 8:43 am

      I believe the BBC woman was, of course, Orla Guerin (who else?). I watched this ‘report’; it was basically Ms Guerin haranguing a young IDF drone pilot (who himself remained at all times calm and reasonable), even going so far as to have the sheer cheek to ask this young man ‘how can you sleep at night?’

      I was dumbfounded. Ms Guerin is clearly out of control, unable to separate her personal prejudices from her requirements towards responsible, balanced journalism.

      The fact that this disgusting ‘interview’ ever got on to air speaks volumes about the almost complete lack of integrity at BBC News.

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    • Mark says:
      August 1, 2014 at 10:41 am

      How about a BBC person interviewing a Hamas teacher or children’s programme maker, asking them if they can sleep at night after brainwashing the Pally children with their genocidal views ?

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  10. Philip says:
    July 31, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Patriots Alert: Another EU Stitch-up plan due in November?
    In November 2014 EU plans afoot called ‘Qualified Majority Voting’ (called QMV) will take affect transferring yet further powers away from Westminster to Europe… (Peter Brown, investigates the key implications for Britain in this new FREE ebook (below): ‘Democracy in a Federalised Europe’ (or rather the complete lack of it) as our English ‘Common Law’ gets thrown away and replaced with soviet style ‘Citizen Kane’ EU liability rules (not English law any more). Chilling reading so far…. (page 2). We will NEVER get rid of the BBC when EU takes direct control. I hope Cameron finds some steel to tell Junckers to bog off – or we are underway for stuffing for Christmas and before the next election in 2016.
    http://www.th-eu-nit.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5093:free-ebook-democracy-in-a-federalised-europe&catid=12:unattributed&Itemid=51

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  11. chrisH says:
    July 31, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    How much more of this PLO sanctioned gloop going to be pumped into our houses?
    Just come in-and all TV and radio channels seem to be begging Israel to let Hamas to recreate those tunnels…presumably, its fracking or mining that the Arabs seem to want.
    Therefore, hope to Ally that Israel stuffs its shells into Hamas and its BBC/liberal mouthpieces for as long as it takes…that Israel seems to be so close to making the Lefties squeal so loud only shows that Islam is quaking thereabouts…therefore its BBC chums will feel the same.

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  12. AsISeeIt says:
    July 31, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    Tonight BBC man Gary Lineker told us these were the ‘Friendly Games’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/commonwealthgames/11002627/Commonwealth-Games-security-guards-fired-for-taking-picture-with-Jamaican-track-star-Usain-Bolt-in-Glasgow.html

    ‘Three Glasgow 2014 security guards have been sacked for taking a selfie with double Olympic champion Usain Bolt ‘

    Sounds a bit s*** to me, Gary. Wonder what Mr Bolt thinks?

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  13. Randy says:
    August 1, 2014 at 9:22 am

    I wonder whether the BBC will be reporting this example of behaviour from the most tolerant of religion in the world:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712380/Vue-cinema-apologises-friends-turned-away-security-guard-not-Muslim-family.html

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    • noggin says:
      August 1, 2014 at 10:43 am

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vue-apologises-after-families-barred-3943677

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/uk-families-barred-from-cinema-for-not-being-muslim

      “Asked why, a shocked Leon says he was told by staff the films showing were only for couples and families celebrating the end of Islamic festival Eid.”

      Star City! …. I had the misfortune to go on one occasion,
      (that was years ago) never again, gobshite gangs of muslim youths hanging about, inside looking like a run down odeon complex, basically it had been turned into a sh-thole, I can imagine why?.

      “Star City said they were not aware of any of incidents of people being turned away on ground of religion taking place” … 😀 one can only assume spoken, by someone who has not visited of an evening.

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      • Guest Who says:
        August 1, 2014 at 10:57 am

        “Star City said they were not aware of any of incidents of people being turned away on ground of religion taking place”
        Ah, clearly operating the Bowen or CECUTT principle of what is or is not?
        “Oi, Shrodinger, what’s that ‘orrible smell?”

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  14. George R says:
    August 1, 2014 at 9:24 am

    More success for BBC-NUJ policy of open-door, mass immigration into Britain:-

    “Mass immigration:
    Report warns of strain on Britain’s infrastructure caused by population growth”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mass-immigration-report-warns-of-strain-on-britains-infrastructure-caused-by-population-growth-9641788.html

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  15. George R says:
    August 1, 2014 at 10:35 am

    To be censored by Beeboid leftist film critic, M. Kermode?:-

    “UK: Families barred from cinema for not being Muslim”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/uk-families-barred-from-cinema-for-not-being-muslim

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  16. AsISeeIt says:
    August 1, 2014 at 10:41 am

    UK Licence Payer funded agit prop against capital punishment in the US

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28555978

    ‘America’s ‘inexorably’ botched executions
    By Debbie Siegelbaum BBC News, Washington’

    What would the BBC recommend one wonders? I suppose there’s always the ‘botched’ UK system

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1159477/Murders-rapes–shocking-crimes-65-killers-released-Labour-strike-again.html

    ‘Murders, rapes… shocking crimes of the 65 killers released under Labour to strike again. By James Slack
    Updated: 00:49, 5 March 2009. Ministers last night admitted the full scale of reoffending by so-called lifers. After their release, the 65 killers committed at least three further murders, one attempted murder and three rapes. ‘

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    • AsISeeIt says:
      August 1, 2014 at 10:47 am

      And then there’s the ‘botched’ Australian system

      http://criminology.research.southwales.ac.uk/features/reoffending/

      ‘A preliminary study by the authors of 894 Western Australian males arrested for homicide offences during the period 1984-2005, and subsequently released from prison, found that 177 (19.8%) of the 894 were subsequently re-arrested for another grave offence… Among these 177 men, 13 (7.3%) were in fact re-arrested for another homicide offence.’

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  17. George R says:
    August 1, 2014 at 10:51 am

    “Lessons in lies: How the BBC, school text books and even exam boards have twisted history to smear Florence Nightingale and make a saint of this woman”

    By PROFESSOR LYNN MCDONALD.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2712683/How-Mary-Seacole-saint-Florence-Nightingake-smeared-twisting-history.html#ixzz398FxuWR1

    Also:

    “How did Mary Seacole come to be revered as a black icon?”
    By Rod Liddle,
    ( 2013 ).

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/8812901/how-did-mary-seacole-come-to-be-revered-as-a-black-icon/

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    • Philip says:
      August 1, 2014 at 11:09 pm

      The left are keen to start re-writing history. This is so inaccurate it hurts but then when has the truth ever been given ‘equal share’ on the BBC drama of leftist equalities. I expect the BBC would create a black Lesbian adventurer selling copies of the Guardian to any injured soldiers in World War1 would be entirely feasible BBC melodrama.

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  18. John Anderson says:
    August 1, 2014 at 11:05 am

    The Gaza 72-hour truce started at 8am – immediately there were a couple of rockets from Gaza but the Israelis ignored them. But then the IDF was attacked by Hamas emerging from tunnels at Rafah – plus more rockets launched at Israel.

    Egypt cancelled the invitation to Palestinians to come to Cairo for negotiations.

    Israel then decided after this to revoke the truce – because Hamas was breaking it..

    The BBC appears to be blaming Israel for the breach ? Bias ?

    Yesterday it had appeared

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    • Pounce says:
      August 1, 2014 at 11:19 am

      Love the picture the bBC uses to report that Israel is going to break the truce:
      _76672148_023368706-1.jpg

      Anybody else immune to these bBC articles

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      • Guest Who says:
        August 1, 2014 at 11:24 am

        ‘report that Israel is going to break the truce’
        Is that phrasing in writing anywhere?
        It suggests either a degree of intel within the Israeli Gov/IDF I doubt they have, or Dr. Who is now a ‘Kicking Off’ Correspondent on their books too.

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        • Pounce says:
          August 1, 2014 at 11:28 am

          the headlines at the moment reads:
          Israel to resume Gaza operation as truce with Hamas crumbles

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    • noggin says:
      August 1, 2014 at 11:36 am

      the record must be sticking …
      Al BBC reports early this morning that, after the condemnation of much of the international community over Israel etc etc etc…
      …. “the truce had been …. largely 😀 …. successful”,
      slipping in a footnote at the end of the piece that
      … Hamas Gaza rockets still being fired,

      BBC – b-stards beneath contempt

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  19. John Anderson says:
    August 1, 2014 at 11:32 am

    The IDF reckon to have found all – or virtually all – of the terror-tunnels, and have been destroying them. So Israel would not want to resists a humanitarian ceasefire, it was Hamas that kept refusing or breaching ceasefires.

    The Hamas estimate of Palestinian deaths is about 1400. Allow for exaggeration – maybe 1000 ? The IDF claims that many hundreds of Hamas fighters have been killed. So – civilian death toll down towards 500 – about one-third of the figure the BBC have been trumpeting.

    500 or 600 civilian deaths – of which about 10% were actually caused by Hamas rocket misfires ? And most of the rest were caused by Hamas forcing civilians to be adjacent to Hamas mortar and rocket positions or where Hamas was firing anti-tank weapons etc..

    So – net result would be a VERY low figure of civilian deaths that were in any sense “avoidable” – after 3 weeks of combat. That shows amazing humanitarian control by the IDF, truly amazing, going further than any army has ever done.

    Yet BBC armchair-warriors have the gall to criticise Israel ?

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  20. John Anderson says:
    August 1, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    What really seems to have broken the truce is that Hamas emerged from a tunnel entrance behind the IDF lines, attacked the IDF AND kidnapped an IDF soldier. This claim was repeated by the UN, who said that if it was true it was very serious. Will the BBC report this statement by the UN ?

    UN special envoy Robert Serry says in a statement that he was informed by Israel of “a serious incident this morning” during the truce involving ” “a tunnel behind IDF lines in the Rafah area of the Gaza Strip,” in which two soldiers and multiple Palestinians were killed.

    “The United Nations is not in a position to independently confirm these reports,” Serry says. If confirmed, however, “this would constitute a serious violation of the humanitarian ceasefire in place since 8 a.m. this morning by Gazan militant factions, which should be condemned in the strongest terms.”

    Serry calls on the Palestinian factions to observe the humanitarian truce, and voices concern about “serious consequences on the ground that could arise as a result of this incident”

    Israel will see the kidnapping, which it agrees has happened, as deeply serious. The fighting could now become much more fierce, going much deeper into Gaza.. There will be pressures to go after the Hamas leadership hiding under the Shifa hospital.

    As an aside – an IDF officer said that in one street 15 out of 28 houses were booby-trapped with explosives. So – a lot of the physical devastation we see on our screens was caused by detonation of Hamas booby-traps.

    Nowhere on the BBC do we hear how evil Hamas is, how little it cares for civilian life. In the entire conflict so far, Justin Webb is the only BBC person who has sounded critical of Hamas in a persistent way. Against probably a dozen other BBC presenters and “reporters”.

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