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I don’t suppose the BBC will be reporting on the bus attack of Jewish school children in Bondi, Sydney Australia.
Incredible to think that even Australia is suffering from the same Cultural Marxism and liberalism as the rest of the Western world, the comments beneath the article could have been lifted from the DT a decade ago, but Oz is fast catching up.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/bondi-racist-bus-attack-jewish-schools-on-alert-after-eight-males-threaten-to-cut-schoolchildrens-throats-five-teenagers-arrested/story-fni0cx4q-1227015860427?nk=3ac88f48d6179de3686dcb99ea20a614
…It also seems that the Aussies have the same contempt for ABC as we do the BBC
Daniel Greenfield on front pagemag.com. Read him. The Yazidi minority are in deserate straits. Forced to flee after the capture by Isis of Sinjar. They will perish unless helped. Isis will kill them all. Every last one if they can.
Do the liberal bleeding heart Westerners care? Do the craven and vile Western media and political class care.? They created the hell that is today’s Iraq.
Do these same apologies for human beings care about the Christians of the ME facing death?
What stupid questions. These people want to feel part of a caring , concerned, liberal right thinking majority of Western fools so they care all right.
They care about hurling vitriolic abuse and lies on Israel.
About their latest mantra- proportionality. . What the hell is that when it’s at home?
Tell the Yazidi and the Kurds about it. Tell the Iraqis facing God knows what hell.
The Western liberal classes deserve the condemnation of future generations and God willing they will get it.
Update. The R4 1pm News carried long reports. Factual and chilling. Compare and contrast the R4 reports from Gaza.
Memo to the liberal media.
There is a difference between Isis and Israel. . It is called civilisation. Remember that when you report and interview.
For once in your lives make a value judgement.
Knowing the media liberal lot I fully expect them to misinterpret my words and apply “civilisation” to Isis.
In 1991 at an auction of regional television franchises the chairman of LWT, Christopher Bland, its chief executive, Greg Dyke, and is arts controller, Melvyn Bragg devised a share option scheme which made themselves millionaires, whereas lesser employees were rewarded with a £50 Marks and Spencer voucher.
I notice that the BBC this week gave Melvyn Bragg an hour long platform to sermonize (ostensibly the programme was about the preacher John Ball) about how everybody should have an equal amount of wealth.
What a sanctimonious hypocritical cunt. No wonder the BBC loves him.
My apology. This opponent of privilege (and defender of the political impartiality of the BBC) accepted a peerage from the Labour Party, to whose coffers he had generously contributed, and so he should of course be called Lord Bragg.
An error in the running order of news summaries on BBC News. This item
Two top Khmer Rouge leaders have been jailed for life after being convicted by Cambodia’s UN-backed tribunal of crimes against humanity.
is not being immediately followed by the item on Gaza/Netanyahu. Just how will the audience make the necessary jump?
Yes, I noted this too.
Can you tell what it is yet?
Oh-wait-we can`t use that as a BBC slogan for us all to join the dots.
With echos of Nazi Germany, George Galloway declares that Israelis aren’t welcome in Bradford: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMSM5vvAmYs
Why is the BBC remaining silent about this blatant racism?
The Tartan carpet windbagger DARES to tell true Englishmen and women that he decides who gets to Yorkshire does he?
When Scotland votes for independence , can we exchange this would-be Gauleiter for a haggis and some turnips?
Just a small plateful will put us up on the deal.
Worraprick!
Because it’s the wrong type of news.
On the other hand, if Nigel Farage said that Pakistanis weren’t welcome in Kent….
Well Germans, and later, Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians (as “DPs”) were. Grew up with them.
What went wrong? I’ll let you all know when I’ve figured it out.
ps: I wonder what Ernest Wiseman, otherwise known as Ernie Wise, would have thought? He was born next door, in Leeds, but was on the stage in Bradford from the age of 11.
Mind you, he was in something called the “Nignog Review”, so I suppose that would rule him out entirely.
BBC boss, sacked after presiding over £100 DMI farce, wins constructive dismissal case:
Full Story
That’ll be more money the licence-fee-payer has to cough up due to BBC negligence.
Wasn’t the Head of HR at the time, one Lucy Adams, on £300k + pa? I would have though that at this salary no mistakes could possibly be made in dismissing anybody. Perhaps she should pay out of her own pocket. Yeah, all right – another lefty, well paid from the public purse without taking responsibility for failures
In complementary news…
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/unattractive.html
Aunty’s unattractive side seems pretty much her daily regime now, even under ‘Fireproof Tone’ (not to be confused with “quite extraordinarily unattractive tone”). James Purnell also coming out well, as befits a sack of rats veteran.
It also appears the BBC has a funny habit of giving telephone number 7.75 multiple salaries to people clearly inept or backstabbing specialists, or both, and calls them ‘market rate’.
It continues to surprise that staff or DOTI’s have time to spend here when clearly they should be watching their six.
Still all appear to have learned lessons and the oversight chair is shaping up
predictabnicely:http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/scatchings.html
One is left wondering if, like police officer associations, any outfit called Operation White Vote would be smiled upon by the BBC’s outrage department or, as it is known, staff.
http://www.letsownthenews.org/ via the Guido Fawkes’ blog.
“80% of the national newspapers we read are controlled by 5 families, this is not a free press and it undermines our democracy. Our vote is worth little if a few people control the information we read. ”
The printed press is facing a slow death, but it will happen. So it’s a bit of a pointless undertaking in my opinion. (Assuming they raise the funding which I very much doubt.)
Am trying to think who controls the vast majority of television/radio/on-line news output in this country these days, and I’m not sure whether I think this should be of concern to people too. I wonder….
OT but worth a share – Thank You.
OT I took a 12-year-old granddaughter to the Imperial War Museum in London on Monday – 4 August. She insisted on staying there for about 5 hours, she wanted to read closely everything there – especially the top floor where dozens of VCs and some GCs are remembered with short statements of their “For Valour” actions, alongside personal items and their medals. She understood that their names were recorded – but not their ranks.
My own father served in WW! but I did not want to overwhelm her with all that – just as my father had never told me about all the hell he lived through in those dark years.
One of the things that depress me about excess and rapid immigration – especially those who do not share our values or try to assimilate – is that we are at risk of diluting our national memories and unspoken pride. But after Monday, I think my granddaughter has a deeper sense of this.
Grandparents must shoulder responsibilty for passing on our history and culture. They have the time.
Hopefully they can counteract the propaganda from the schools and the liberal media.
I attended an end of term play at my grandson’s school. it was horrendous. Total propaganda.
The writer, who was present,, apparently is connected with the BBC.
What a surprise.
She even pilloried children .,sorry kids, who spoke with received pronunciation, ( in her words posh)
Sheer bullying behaviour. I congratulated her on her propaganda. I think I left her confused.
John,
I’m dropping in this Sunday for a visit. Regards your comment about immigration. The last but one time i visited, I walked to the E&C in which to catch the Tube home and I saw black people openly pissing in the street dressed in their national garb. This wasn’t a one off, as the very same day when I got off at Finchley Central. There were blacks (Again in African national dress) pissing agaisnt the door to the Tube station.
I took my 4 boys to the Imperial War Museum last Sunday and through all the Holocaust exhibition. 5 minutes in there and you can fully understand why Israel has to fight fire with fire.
BBC. … what it means to be modern?
A thoroughly modern caliphate
“Although it claims to be reviving a traditional Islamic system of government, the jihadist group Isis is a very modern proposition, writes John Gray.”
hmmm … and … if you need a second sh-t sandwich
on the same page
Will Self
What does it mean to be a “modern” patriot?
Funny you use the phrase “shit sandwich”.
I had a dream of a kind, where I thought of the BBC as providing a load of shit sandwiches to the Hamas commanders and media types…as we admire the dirty protest that they have managed to make for Gazans, by way of the Gaze Strip.
Their dirty protest-but as ever, its the poor the old and the young…the women too; that have to live in the dirty protest of a cell that Hamas have created for it.
The Hamas commanders and media types far prefer a soft bed and a taxi from pool to TV studio-where the BBC offer ” ciabatta de merde” to their bezzies!
Strange dream of sorts, but shit sandwiches served in a dirty protest of a cell seems to suit the “worlds biggest prison camp”.
Where is Roger Waters and Elvis Costello, when you need a gig to raise money for the rockets and cement?…I`d have thought that the Lefties would be crawling to play there on the Gaza beach!
Thank God for Leonard Cohen!
The John Gray article is crap and typical BBC pro-Islam propaganda. His thesis is that ISIS are much more like modern revolutionaries than medieval Islamic forebears: he cites the “subtle Islamic states” which in Spain exercised a degree of tolerance at a time when the rest of Europe was wracked by persecution. Much more relevant as a historical frame of reference was the earlier experience of ancient Middle Eastern Christian communities which underwent centuries of persecution and slaughter before Christendom lifted a finger to try to help them in the First Crusade.
Of course, you are right. The Medieval brutality myth really is just that…a myth….as is the the myth of muslim Spain…myths both…pays your money..takes your choice!
Well with the news that France is going to help the Kurds fight ISIS
That Obama is thinking of soft and hard options agaisnt ISIS.
(Soft: drop food, Hard, limited attacks on ISIS)
The British Government has decided that after sending more money to Hamas and stating it will impose sanctions on Israel if the ceasefire breaks down.
http://www.channel5.com/shows/5-news/features-archived/nick-clegg-threatens-israel-with-arms-embargo-if-gaza-ceasefire-breaks-down?
The bBC reports that the British government has decided to step in, yes Deputy prime-minister Nick Clegg has reported exclusivity to the bBC, that British troops will be dropped into Iraq in which to help ISIS remove (read kill) all Christians from the Middle East in which to apologise for the British Empire.
The bBC reports that Labour is agaisnt this and that we should really be attacking Israel.
Jeremy Bowen couldn’t be found for his comments as he was bent over in the local mosque with his arse,hands and mouth full.
I have a theory that there are more homosexuals in the islamic world than the rest of the world put together. Which would be quite funny…
I don’t know as Am-a-nut-job of Iran stated that there are no gays in Iran , maybe that’s’ because they have all been well hung.
http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/hangingl468x318nh0.jpg
In iran they hang gay by putting a noose that is fixed to a crane around the victims neck and then they lift them up, a slow disgusting death and the bBC prefers to pick on the UK for the much more humane way it despatches murderers.
sorry that should read US
Galloway, of the ‘left’-Islam alliance, who Beeboids are very familiar with, makes it politically clear:-
“George Galloway declares Bradford ‘an Israel-free zone’ and warns away ‘Israeli tourists’”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-galloway-declares-bradford-an-israelfree-zone-9653894.html
As Beeboids must know, as more British towns and cities are Islamised (via continuing mass immigration into the U.K), the more Galloway will reflect the politics of Islamic interests.
BBC Director-General, Tony ‘Diversity’ HALL will endorse this-
“British cinema to become diversity propaganda tool”
http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/british-cinema-to-become-diversity.html
Gaza ceasefire ends in 9 hours’ time. Israel is willing to continue it – but Hamas wants concessions such as opening borders. Lots of belligerent statements from the terrorists, although a rally in Gaza attracted only about 2000 people.
If the ceasefire breaks down – will the BBC put the blame squarely where it lies ? Or will it carry on trying to cast Israel as the aggressor.
Yep 22 rockets fired…at from 8 am (local time)…
Turkey.
The unswerving political support of British political class/media (inc INBBC) for Turkey’s entry into E.U continues, despite this:-
Turkish PM Erdogan: Jews Around The World Are ‘Legitimate Targets’”
– See more at: http://pamelageller.com/#sthash.JNnr4GGP.dpuf
Turkey’s case for EU membership is getting increasingly difficult to justify as Ataturk’s secularism goes into an ever-more-rapid retreat.
How ironic that secular Turks would get far more from an open trade agreement and points based immigration policy such as UKIP would propose, than the illusory appeal of ever receding EU membership. Who really is racist and xenophobic if you are Turkish? The EU or UKIP?
Just seen a Hamas supporter (named as such in the 9pm BBC bulletin) praising Baroness Warsi. Well, fancy that? Who’d have thought? etc. etc. He was also puzzled as to why the gulf countries have said zero about what’s happened. That’s because they entirely support what the Israelis are doing, mate!
Mark Urban
Off Radar
What else happened in the Middle East as Gaza burned?
7 August 2014 Last updated at 15:12
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-28691901
Unfortunately closed for comments before any comments were made/published.
“Unfortunately closed for comments before any comments were made/published”
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It would seem the BBC does not want to hear your views.
Imagine how some would react even on a small forum no one pays attention to with such censorship?
Indeed.
Credit where credit is due. The BBC is doing well to lead with the plight of religious minorities in Iraq fleeing the jihadists. Well done the BBC. Unless I’m missing it the British government is mute, but France and the US seem to be considering action.
In contrast C4 news from the little I saw seemed to be leading on an attempt to identify Israeli war crimes in Gaza. Thankfully the BBC seems to no longer beating that drum ad nauseum. And to have developed a sense of proportion in its coverage.
They had to say something or be damned in the eyes of the civilised world. You are right about the loathsome C4.
Vile that it is.
What is happenening is beyond belief. The Yazidi and Christian communities have survived wars , empires and untold disasters.
Now militant Islam is bent on their destruction. And we can all see what Israel’s fate would be without the IDF.
It is to be profoundly hoped that the world will act.
This is is not the same as Gaza despite those in this country who would make it so.
I wonder if the Yazidi and the ME Christians are islamaphobic?
hmmm
BBC – Don t they realise, that taking action against ISIS, would only create the breeding of more bombers, to be radicalised here at home?
So obviously do nothing that could upset the “Borg” like herd mentality of Islam, and mobilize £100 000s in “hush money” in the hope they might go away?.
Israel has shown you the way, no jiving, no bullsh-t, just concise action
… but oh no wait a minute …
lsrael bad? … well … aren t they
hmmm better reinstate Warsi
… then sack her
“In contrast C4 news from the little I saw seemed to be leading on an attempt to identify Israeli war crimes in Gaza.”
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So what happened with their exclusive shock revaluations at 7pm? All I can locate is they are trotting out accusations from an activist… that cannot be verified.
Oops, autocorrect. Should be revelations, but that’ll do as well. Better even. Interesting, given Ch 4 seemed to feel it the scoop of the century, I can’t see a peep anywhere, even the BBC. Did they find out they’d teamed up with a BIJ alumnus for it? Krishnan and Jon best get ferreting again, but this obsession of theirs has damaged Ch4 as much as that of Hamas.
Pity, as I respected the news efforts out of CAR whilst half of W1eh? was vuvuzelering at the Mandelathon.
Thought Mark Regev handled Guru Murthy superbly. The long pauses from the C4 idiot when he couldn’t refute Regev’s counter claims are comedy gold.
Yes, on CAR I thought C4 showed BBC how to do journalism and avoid Mandelafest. But on Israeli war crimes C4 seemed excited it had a scoop, completely missing the bigger picture of the days news.
German state broadcaster and media have shifted from the ‘militant’ meme…..IS is now referred to as a ‘Terror- Miliz’….will the BBC acknowledge that this ‘Caliphate’ is a manifestation of terror…that is the test.
‘Telegraph’ (£)-
“Sacked BBC officer was unfairly dismissed in culture of ‘sacrificial accountability’, tribunal finds”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/11020145/Sacked-BBC-officer-was-unfairly-dismissed-in-culture-of-sacrificial-accountability-tribunal-finds.html
For INBBC’s ‘Education and Family’ news page-
‘Daily Telegraph’ (£) front page-
“Toddlers at risk of extremism, warns Education Secretary.
Nicky Morgan will use her first major speech to highlight the danger of extremism in Britain’s nurseries after ‘Trojan Horse’ scandal”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11020356/Toddlers-at-risk-of-extremism-warns-Education-Secretary.html
of course the little sweeties pictured are blonde…no headscarfs and mini-me niqabs…as there would be in the nurseries affected.
Pro-E.U Beeboids- ‘do we have to report this, as well as UKIP’s stuff’?
“‘If we can’t reform, we have an alternative’ Boris Johnson vows to lead Britain OUT of EU”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/496432/Boris-I-ll-have-a-crack-at-Commons
As we commemorate the start of WW1 a Canadian suggests the real loser was Islam and that is why we are now experiencing a rematch.
“Why Do Liberals Have Trouble Understanding the Pure Evil of Jihad?”
By David French.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/384877/why-do-liberals-have-trouble-understanding-pure-evil-jihad-david-french?
Beeboids won’t appreciate that article, not least because they usually censor the word ‘jihadists’ (a CoJo diktat?) using instead the misleading word, ‘militants.’
Oh fuck,
The news is reporting that the Yanks have bombed ISIS
expect the bBC to have every Muslim going claiming that Isis are victims, that the US can’t hope to win this war, that a wedding party (Of only men) was hit and that Islam is a religion of peace and that the British empire is to blame.
Abu Bowen will be on the front line claiming not to have seen ISIS killing people, instead he saw them handing out sweets and rescuing little kittens.
and expect the bBC to promote protests for this Sat in London where everybody will sing
“We are all ISIS now”
just take a look, at the attitude of the Iraqi Gov
Yazidi Member of Iraqi Parliament collapses in tears
http://youtu.be/JNoP-tQ5mCw
Good on the US to start blasting those primeval jihadi savages (including “British” ones) out of the sky.
But as it’s being done under Obama’s rule and not Bush’s , where would the Beeboidal loyalties lie ?
NO wait, the US military which never talks about bombing people in Pakistan,Somalia,Yemen,Afghanistan,Iraq has released a press statement before the story has even been aired around the world:
Police are investigating a hate speech made by the most obnoxious MP in the country.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11396101.VIDEO__Police_investigate_George_Galloway_s_comments_after_MP_declares_Bradford_is__an_Israel_free_zone_/
It’s time someone jailed that deranged, traitorous toad who calls his party “Respect”.
Jon Snow was viciously ant-Israel over the past month. Who was the most biased and vitriolic BBC person over this time ?
I’d put Sarah Montague on the Today programme at the top – for sustained bias on the very-influential Today programme. Of people on the ground – Jon Donnison and Yolande Knell ?
Here’s Montague and Donnison in tandem at 1 hour 16 minutes in on Monday’s Today programme, 5 full minutes of pro-Hamas stuff, just 5 seconds for the Israel side of the story :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04cb5sf
Montague was emoting again for 3 minutes at 1 hour 49 on the same programme and then had a very hostile interview with the Israel ambassador to the UK, an interview dripping with hostility.
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Hamas won’t extend the ceasefire:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28699741
Two rockets fired from Gaza hit southern Israel three hours before the three-day ceasefire was due to expire, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.
“The IDF accused “terrorists” of violating the ceasefire.
The rockets fell on open ground and caused no casualties, the Israeli army said early on Friday.
Hamas has denied firing them.”
Note how the BBC uses short concise sentences when it wants to get its propoganda across. The IDF calls them ‘terrorists’ – and the BBC makes it clear they don’t agree with that assertion by the use of quotes. The rockets fell on open ground anyway, so that’s OK. And Hamas even deny firing them so the IDF are obviously lying anyway.
Yes heard the Today news at 7.30 – all very carefully worded. ‘Rockets fell on Ashdod’ as though they were snowflakes with no human involved?
http://order-order.com/2014/08/08/welsh-first-minister-embroiled-in-malvinas-row/
Tricky one for the BBC, this.
Probably best to ignore it.
However, other options are a ‘truth wouldn’t fit’ headline blurring who is actually the government, or mobilise Gavin and Dateline London with guests from such as El Sturmer to agree it was all the Islanders’ fault for not accepting Argentinian hospitality before.
Nick Baines The Bishop for West Yorkshire and the Dales was on thought for the day, and what a refreshing change! He had a right swipe at left wing liberal values, which he said were asserting that any belief had to be seen as valid whether it was right or wrong, good or evil, and that the liberal left in the West saw itself as ‘neutral’, and ‘balanced’, just like the BBC does !
Well worth a listen when it appears on the iPlayer.
Caution needed with Gaza casualty figures
“Nonetheless, if the Israeli attacks have been “indiscriminate”, as the UN Human Rights Council says, it is hard to work out why they have killed so many more civilian men than women.
…
“In conclusion, we do not yet know for sure how many of the dead in Gaza are civilians and how many were fighters. This is in no sense the fault of the UN employees collecting the figures – their statistics are accompanied by caveats and described as preliminary and subject to to revision.
But it does mean that some of the conclusions being drawn from them may be premature.”
You don’t say! Of course, the damage is done now, but I can’t see this article being given the same prominence that the pronouncements of dead civilians was originally given by the BBC. And I don’t recall these caveats being mentioned on the News at Ten.
I see the bBC has been very low key on the reporting of the end of the ceasefire in Gaza and that Hamas has broken it by restarting Missile firing into Israel and that Israel has enough the brave reporters at the bBC have all uttered ‘Allah ackba at the news that I the empire is striking back:
Israel to strike Gaza amid rockets
Note how the bBC promotes the view that Israel is the belligerent here.
The bBC, the mouthpiece for Islamic terrorism
Oh look the bbC have changed the headlines again:
Israel air strikes resume in Gaza amid rockets
According to the bBC headline, the Jews and Not Hamas broke the ceasefire.
The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism
‘Oh look the bbC have changed the headlines again:’
Clearly the ‘story’ had only evolved from the missing link.
ISIS … continues with its disregard, for any innocent Men/ Women/Children, continues with its genocidal aims.
Boko Haram … continues with its disregard, for any innocent Men/ Women/Children, continues with its genocidal aims,
Al Shabab … continues with its disregard, for any innocent Men/ Women/Children, continues with its genocidal aims,
Al Quaida continues with its disregard, for any innocent Men/ Women/Children, continues with its genocidal aims
hmmm Hamas … continues with its disregard, for any innocent Men/ Women/Children, continues with its genocidal aims,
oops just a minute …. the MSM, BBC, Ch4, No10 etc have allowed obfuscation, wilful neglect of facts to create a narrative, denied
worse bloodshed,
worse atrocity,
to greater numbers of people …
anywhere near the same amount of airtime, and column inches?, why? … the reasons?
1/. Instil a pro Islamic narrative, where it is not warranted, or deserved.
2/. Castigate, delegitimise Israel, (a pro Islamic narrative, not warranted, or deserved).
So Bomb ISIS, oops! won t that according to the BBC/Ch4/MSM/No10 …. “create future jihadists
that could endanger the UK” as they ve ALL deceitfully trumpeted over any Israeli response to terror attacks?
below some examples just, rom the last couple of days, and the reports keep coming in …
“Russian reporter thrown out of Gaza, by Hamas”
“Journalists threatened by Hamas for reporting use of human shields”
“Indian news team witnesses Hamas building rocket silo next to hotel”
“France 24 reporter finds Hamas rocket launcher in residential area next to UN building”
“Gaza Bishop: Hamas used church to fire rockets”
“Sunday’s Gaza school attack now appears to have been staged”
“Hamas TV: Dress up like Jews to execute jihad-martyrdom suicide bombings”
“Hamas funded the murder of three Israeli teens, says ringleader”
“Hamas TV: Every Muslim mother “must nurse her children on hatred”
“Hamas drastically inflate casualty figures”
“Israel: 47% of Gaza dead were combatants”
“Captured Hamas combat manual explains benefits of human shields”
“Hamas calls for ’3 day uprising’ during ceasefire”
BBC/Ch4/MSM unbiased news reporting?
‘BBC/Ch4/MSM unbiased news reporting?’
An odd race to the bottom being engaged there.
OT but Ch 4 seems to be winning currently, as it appears it has dawned on some, even the BBC, that what the public is gleaning from them is not close to reality, and they are turning from champions to complicit.
As ISIS cuts a vicious swathe (I could use more graphic terminology but a simple google will show what I mean) through fondly cherished notions of peaceful coexistence, on a slightly ‘two wrongs’ basis I am noting on social media once vocal single-track, limited source idealists are asking why these clowns can’t seem to get their heads around worse when committed outside their ideological comfort zones.
Meanwhile Barry is up for using high-tech, high explosive… ‘if American interests are threatened’. Hoping no wedding party guests under age will be the victims of this apparently acceptable use of disproportionate ‘defensive’ measures. Kerry must be staring at a mirror and wondering, ‘why the long face?’.
The BBC still seems to like to skirt around the bleedin’ obvious if it can…
http://bbcwatch.org/2014/08/08/bbcs-guerin-promotes-hamas-popularity-and-an-occupation-which-doesnt-exist/
‘Abu Ahmed: “Civilians are safe. We target soldiers and military barracks.”
Guerin: “I’ve seen kindergartens and houses in Israel that have been hit by Hamas rockets. You are targeting civilians.”
Abu Ahmed: “We can’t control where our rockets land. That is a matter of fate. They [Israelis] have sirens and shelters. We have nowhere to be safe.”
Guerin leaves it at that, passing up on the opportunity to remind viewers that Hamas’ categorisation of “soldiers and military bases” includes the civilian agricultural communities in southern Israel and has more recently been expanded to include Israel’s main international airport.
Where the BBC ‘picks up’ and even more where it ‘leaves it at that’ being a rather damning indictment of their professional competencies, objectivity and integrity still.
But Ch 4 seems to be going for the Black Maria option and figures it has nothing to lose any more. Jon & Krish must be feeling a wee bit isolated as they try and push scoops and moppet casualty porn in the face of dawning reality across the MSM.
They really have made what was bad worse by their cynical stances.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/police-prepare-major-crackdown-weekends-7581441
Police prepare major crackdown on this weekend’s Gaza protests in Manchester city centre
So for those people who thought that the Labour leaders condemnation was just hollow words, here’s the proof that it wasn’t.
However – I predict a riot.
This could spark another round of Muslim Jihadist riots across the country, and the hollow man, David Cameron will crumple and acquiesce just as he has done in the past.
Where s the vehement street protest from the ROP over Iraqi genocide?
Where s the vehement street protest from the ROP over growing violence/massacre and “# bring back our girls”
Could Quran mandated Jew hatred have anything to do with it?
an example of where, abject cowardice gets you eh! No10
Matters will come to a head, much sooner than I envisaged.
These pro-Hamas demos are beyond a sick joke now, seeing as Hamas and ISIS are cut from the same warped cloth.
While ISIS commits butchery and genocide against Christians in Iraq, the Socialist Wanker apologists for Islamist Hamas scum are free to spout their hatred in our cities.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/flag-isis-jihadi-islamic-state-flown-poplar-east-london
Has the print arm of the BBC finally woken up to what we’ve been telling them for so long? Now that they’ve experienced it will their position change?
Nothing on the BBC website though.
On twitter it was noted earlier that Glasgow had got on the Gazan flag-waving bannerwagon, and a few joked that it would be an ISIS one next. True words and (rather dark) jests come to mind.
Guess so long as it is a ‘views their own’ effort, even if hung from a window at W1A the BBC top tier would opt for a ‘please stop making us look bad’ email, as these have really worked well in the pas… another time.
“A Metropolitan police spokesman said on Thursday that they had received no complaints about offensive flags in the Tower Hamlets area.”
no sh-t shylock! … says a lot about T . Hamletistan
Type of complaint:
BBC News (TV Radio and website)
What is your complaint about:
General News
Complaint category:
Factual error or inaccuracy
Contacted us before:
No
Complaint title:
Explain Gaza Reporting is Censored by Hamas
Complaint description:
Can you please preface all your reporting from Gaza with the disclaimer that all reporting is done under the reporting restrictions of Hamas and that it is not free and unbiased reporting.
Does anyone else think that the new, young ‘hipster’ bearded Newsnight presenter is just terrible? It’s like watching a tooth being removed! They must be scraping the barrel.
Doubtless a tail-end Charlie as the weekend looms…
http://thefederalist.com/2014/08/07/the-bbc-is-a-cross-between-pbs-and-the-irs/
‘“People think of Rupert Murdoch as owning a lot of media outlets, but the BBC overshadows that completely,” says Butler. The BBC employs over 23,000 people directly, and many others indirectly. They want to keep their jobs.”
Job-keeping allowances do seem generous. The weekend shift will soon be here, too.
Nothing to worry about folks, Vanessa Feltz, sitting in for Jeremy Vine on Radio 2, has just had a guest telling us that ISIS/IS is a modern phenomenon, since 1990, and has no historic or theological basis!
So who was that Mo guy who ‘conquered with compassion’? Who were the people sweeping up through Spain and battering at the gates of Vienna?
If only our Western ancestors had seized on the ‘modern’ concepts of ‘vibrant diversity’ and ‘cultural relativism’, (also lacking a historic and theological basis), we would all have the peace of the dead!
Ask them to look up the word ‘Khawarij’..it goes back to the earliest months of Islam….
‘The Kharijites were particularly noted for adopting a radical approach to Takfir, whereby they declared other Muslims to be unbelievers and therefore deemed them worthy of death. The Kharijites were also known historically as the Shurāh (الشُراة),[A] literally meaning “the buyers” and understood within the context of Islamic scripture and philosophy to mean “those who have traded the mortal life (al-Dunya) for the other life [with God] (al-Aakhirah)”,
It is at the heart of Islam.
How the bBC lies for Islamic terrorism
The bBCs Wyre Davies reports on the not widely reported fact that every day Israel has shipped in Aid to Gaza. He reports from the crossing and points out that not a lot has gone through.
bBC reports from blockaded Israel-Gaza border crossing
and here is a tweet from the IDF from the 4th of August. The figures are for just one day.
The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism
How “innocent” are the innocent civilians of Gaza.
Polling in Gaza since the ceasefire started has shown that a high proportion want the fighting to continue.
Polling in Israel since the ceasefire started has shown that very few wanted the fighting to continue.
It is all part of the “moderate Muslim” myth. Moderate Palestinians are in a minority – and their voice does not matter anyway under a Hamas dictatorship.
While the ceasefire lasted, the BBC was showing lots of film and pictures of physical damage to buildings in Gaza. It was NOT showing any maps showing the concentration of Hamas facilities in those urban areas, it was NOT saying that about half of Hamas rockets were falling short within Gaza, it was NOT saying that large numbers of buildings had been damaged that were booby-trapped by the terrorists, it was not showing how many buildings concealed weapons or entrances to terror tunnels.
BBC – suppress the truth, hide the context, smear Israel.
I wonder if the BBC will be discussing this growing trend?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3190302/posts
Here is the ex-BBC Chris Gunness, head of UNRWA in Gaza, denying that UNRWA schools and summer camps preach jihad. What a creep.